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Oak
9:01 PM
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Evening everyone.
 
Evening
 
Evening
 
good chat?
I didn't get to see much of it
 
9:09 PM
It'll be up as a transcript soon, I'd imagine?
 
if people ever stop talking :-)
 
Ah, apparently it won't be posted til tomorrow.
 
I think that went well! Shame I cant make the 2am one. Night all
 
Key to earning rep: Ask questions about Nethack.
 
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Q: How to reset the frequency to 50Hz on a Wii that has been set to 60Hz, without a TV supporting 60Hz ?

Xavier V.I changed the settings of a Wii to 60Hz... And I am not able to reset it to 50Hz since the displaying on my TV does not support 60Hz. I have read over the internet that there is a manipulation that can be done by pressing the down button on a Wii controller while resetting the Wii. It does not ...

 
9:12 PM
@StrixVaria It has been popular lately
 
I've had it on my phone for months but never bothered to learn how to play it until a few days ago.
 
It helps that it's often easy to make the question title borderline ridiculous.
 
BRIIIIIIDGE.
 
...@Oak, did you just direct a question at yourself?
 
Oak
@Mana Imad can't comment
@Fallen of course not, I'm perfect.
 
9:15 PM
@Oak not even on their own question?
 
Oak
@Mana not his question, since it was migrated and he had no user here. He needs a merge, and I can't merge him
 
Oh.
Well...how do I advise people in situations like that?
That's always something that's kind of bothered me. How can I tell someone who can't comment that their answer thing should be a comment?
 
Oak
@Mana I think I'll just add some comment and delete it. He can still see comments on his deleted post. I'll tell him to email the team if he wants a merge, that's all I can do...
 
@Oak Alright.
 
9:18 PM
12 messages moved to Gaming Town Hall Chat
 
Oak
btw @Mana I thought you were going to nominate yourself
 
Yeah, I was.
 
Oak
Considering how much you flag, at least, looks like you care a lot about the site.
 
There wasn't really ever a point where I didn't not want to nominate myself either
I just got kind of busy with school and never had a chance to write up my nomination.
Well, not never, just never really got around to it.
Based on that I can safely say that in my current state I would make a terrible mod ;)
 
Oak
Well, maybe so... but at least I hope you'll keep on flagging.
 
9:21 PM
Oh yeah, I'll keep on using the site as I do. I was never really doing anything in hopes of being a mod.
wait that was a double negative above there
let me try that again: no point where I didn't want to nominate myself either
there.
 
UUURARG!
Editing and answering questions on iPhone invariably gives me the UI RAGE
 
Heh.
 
@sjohnston Answering on a phone is at least possible, if somewhat slow. I would never attempt to edit from a phone, that's just masochism.
 
yes please cover 95% of the screen with keyboard that's definitely what I want
 
@badp Your edit of MikeyB's answer to my question (gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/16160/…) was redundant and may confuse new players. I don't have edit privileges but I submitted an edit (such as a cursed cloak -> such as a cloak).
 
9:27 PM
If someone watched me doing it, they'd probably think I was reenacting that scene from Office Space where the printer is eating his document
 
@ItakeDrukqs I thought I reverted it
 
@badp Eh? I'm confused.
 
Oak
badp made an edit and then reverted it, so in effect he did nothing
 
Oh wow. How did that happen?
 
@ITake Do cloaks in general prevent you from removing armor?
 
Oak
9:29 PM
Sometimes on Monday nights he just drinks too much, I guess
:)
 
I seen he had edited it but it had "cursed" in there so I assumed he added "cursed" to the Q. I didn't know you could look at the revisions. Apologies.
@Mana Yes they do.
 
Ah, alright.
 
Yes, but a cursed one will stop you totally.
 
@Arda That's true but irrelevant to my question.
 
@sjohnston PC Load Letter? What the f... er... heck does that mean?!
 
9:32 PM
heh. The only thing I know about NetHack is that my brother tried to write a bot that could beat it...only he would never actually play the game himself.
 
@ItakeDrukqs Of course. As such, any cloak will stop the initial attempt.
@Mana Wait... what? That's be... kinda impressive.
 
@Mana Emphasis on "tried". It's possible with other roguelikes but there's too many variables in a complex game like NetHack.
 
Yeah. He eventually gave up.
 
Yay, I love tweaking forum anti-spam settings.
 
9:34 PM
@Arda My issue was that I couldn't remove the armor my character had started with; I would know if my cloak was cursed and I always use my pet or an altar to identify first.
 
@ItakeDrukqs That does alleviate the risks of wearing a cursed cloak, yes.
 
Oak
Night guys
I hope the candidates in the second chat will answer my questions as well
 
@Oak Have a good night.
 
Oak
But it's way too late for me
Give them hell! :)
 
9:38 PM
what? all three of us?
 
@ArdaXi I've made it to Gehennom once a long time ago but as I walked through a narrow area a tentacle sprang out from the water and choked me to death. It was by luck anyways. Now I'm being very careful, quickly engraving the E-word with my fingers when in danger, mounting my horse and pounding enemies via [a]pplying my lance to avoid contact with potentially dangerous monsters.
 
There really aren't that many, are there?
 
@CRoss I count more than 3.
 
You know, it's depressing. @badp is actually better at being worse than me.
 
@ArdaXi bows
 
9:40 PM
@badp So... that means I am good at nothing.
 
@ArdaXi man hugs
 
Oh hell yes man group hug time
we're doing this bros
we're making this happen
 
People, give Juan some vote love
 
Oh. I'm good at inserting appropriate images, proving well-needed comic relief.
 
9:41 PM
Oh right, we can vote now.
 
@Mana This incident will be reported to the human resources department
 
:(
 
Alright. WHO UPVOTED ME?
 
@Mana Just kidding, I hate those PC nerds
 
@sjohnston lets not involve HR in this, it only gets messy. puts soap in a sock
 
9:42 PM
hahaha yeah
 
er, politically correct, not personal computer. I like computer nerds
 
Wait. This is worse.
 
@Mana Grace has the most votes by a far margin, there's something right about that.
 
WHO. DOWNVOTED. @GraceNote.
 
Oh yeah, how many people go on to the final from the primary? 10?
 
9:43 PM
OUT OF MY EYES NOW
 
@Powerlord ten
 
Hmm. So how does the primary work again? Is there any limit to how many votes we can cast?
 
Where does one go to vote for such things?
 
When you vote and reload, do your arrows remain coloured?
@Mana No.
 
@CRoss That's what I thought.
 
Ha, beat the mod...candidate. Did I just admit that I want Arda to be a mod? Crap.
 
@Mana you can vote for everyone, top ten total scores get into the election
 
Thanks to the both of you.
 
Two people downvoted @GraceNote. Banishment is in order.
Commence the building of the gallows!
 
9:44 PM
@ArdaXi Why?
 
@Powerlord Because thou shalt not downvote @GraceNote?
 
@ArdaXi Don't worry, CRoss has his soap sock ready to deal with them
I won't lie, it hurts. But you smell great after.
 
@Mana <3
 
@ArdaXi And what would you do about it if I said I did? (Not saying whether I did or not, but hypothetically...)?
 
@Arda You're from NL? Hm, what genres of music do you listen to..?
 
9:45 PM
@ItakeDrukqs Most irrelevant two-part question ever.
 
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Q: Minecraft: Hosting server on Windows Home Server (WHS)

Peter BridgerI've got a HP MediaSmart Windows Home Server EX490 and I'd like to run my own Minecraft server. I have the server software downloaded on my WHS box, so through a Remote Desktop connecting I startup the software which runs fine. However the moment a Minecraft client trys to connect to the server...

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Q: Centered number of votes looks out of place

OakLooks like the number of votes and the number of tags got moved to the center of the page instead of the left side. It's a bit confusing and for a few minutes I thought the whole page was bugged until I realize that is what happened: Especially for the votes this is very unclear. Is this i...

 
@Powerlord Find you and kill you? Hypothetically, of course.
 
@Arda It's relevant if you understand why I'm asking. :)
 
@ItakeDrukqs Even though this will lose any and all respect you might still have for me: last.fm/user/arienh4
 
Wow, three downvotes on Arda :(
 
9:46 PM
So far, I've done 5 upvotes and 2 downvotes of the 11 people I can vote on (there are 12 candidates including myself). The others I haven't decided on.
 
Gah, I hate how last.fm even adds songs I get linked to on Spotify.
 
@Arda: Wow that is a lot of Weird Al
 
"Your musical compatibility with arienh4 is VERY LOW"
downvotes @Arda
 
@FallenAngelEyes I always have my playlist on shuffle. I just happen to have his whole discography.
He's also the only artist I've ever seen live.
 
Haha, that's kind of why Nobuo Uematsu is my top.
Mind if I friend you on there?
 
9:48 PM
Why not.
So, @ItakeDrukqs, why were you asking?
 
Speaking of Uematsu, it's weird that some of my favorite tracks of his are of the few he did for Chrono Trigger. Don't tell Mitsuda I like Uematsu's Chrono Trigger music better than his. >:O
 
as far as downvoting @Grace I think everyone is getting downvoted
 
@Arda Huh. I was wrong then. I didn't need your last.fm haha. I was just curious if you liked certain genres of music your country is well-known for that I also happen to like. Also musical taste is subjective, it's not my place to judge what you do and do not enjoy. You're the opposite of me as far as music goes though.
 
@ItakeDrukqs Hardcore fantasy metal?
 
@ItakeDrukqs I do listen to quite a bit of Dutch music, didn't know we had any genres we are known for...
 
9:49 PM
They love their Happy Hardcore here in the NL.
 
@ItakeDrukqs I think the netherlands are mostly famous for something besides music ;-)
 
Both of my downvotes correlate directly with what I posted here.
 
@Fabian :>
 
But from your username I gather you know that.
 
@Fabian tulips? windmills? inexplicably wooden shoes?
 
9:50 PM
@Fabian My username doesn't revolve around drugs.
 
@sjohnston Heineken, weed...
 
@Arda: I'd say lots of dance/trance numbers, especially given Tiësto and all.
 
@Fabian It's Drukqs. It's a play-on-words by an album composed by Aphex Twin.
 
@ItakeDrukqs No, it ends in drugs.
@FallenAngelEyes Hmm, yeah, I suppose. I don't listen to a lot of mainstream stuff anyway.
 
@Arda I was referring to electronic music. In specific some of the more obscure sub-genres within the Hardcore genre.
 
9:51 PM
Yo @Grace. How's dominating the polling feel-- >:(
 
Where did I get 3 upvotes/downvotes?
 
I have a dutch colleague, but he's only bringing cheese, poffertjes and strange dutch mostly-beers with him.
 
@ArdaXi I appreciate the assumption of my naivete, but yes, I was aware of what was being referenced...
 
@Arda Myself and two others.
 
Poffertjes~~~
 
9:51 PM
On the upvotes.
 
God I love poffertjes
 
y'all making me hungry ...
 
(Mini-pancakes, for the uninitiated)
 
argh 8 minutes until dining hall opens
HURRY.
 
9:52 PM
Wikipedia confuses me...
 
They're like silver dollar pancakes that are actually the size of a silver dollar.
 
> Some supermarkets (like Albert Heijn) sell ready-made poffertjes that only need to be microwaved
 
NOOOOOOOOOO
 
Every supermarket does.
 
@Fabian Now we just need a miniature bunny
 
9:53 PM
room topic changed to The Bridge: of Gaming's StackExchangeâ„¢ AlienOverlord AskQuestionâ„¢ mothership, which is aiming its lazers as we enter orange alert condition. Have you voted in the primaries yet? Embarass the candidates today at 2100 EST.
 
@sjohnston Flappie!
 
@badp Needs the addendum "if you haven't already" ;-)
 
Hrm, so, @badp, 5 upvotes already.
 
"Question for the candidates: what's the most embarrassing thing you've said or done as a child?"
 
Apparently, I really suck at self-deprivation-reverse-psychology.
 
9:54 PM
@Fabian They haven't already!
 
@Mana I nominated myself to be a moderator for a gaming Q&A site.
 
@Mana I got lost following a dog.
 
hahaha, yeah, that was a good one.
 
And then I got up-down voted to 0, not even giving me the sweet release of a negative score.
 
@ArdaXi Actually it's +9-4
 
9:56 PM
Well, s/upvotes/score/g
 
yeah, it's showing negative scores as zero for some reason
 
Our compatibility is low apparently. What kind of music is Rob de Nijs?
 
Also Ronan has +1-8=-1 for some reason
 
@FallenAngelEyes Erm... the kind of stuff a generation or two before me likes.
 
Haha, gotcha.
 
9:57 PM
Piratepad time!
 
@badp It doesn't go below -1
 
For the hell of it, Bridge topic is now last.fm music profile comparisons.
 
@Fabian Didn't know about that
 
@FallenAngelEyes Frank Boeijen is also the wrong generation :)
 
We should make a last.fm group
 
9:57 PM
That's new I think, I still remember the -100+ nomination of rook on SO
 
last.fm/user/SpiritofMana my music taste is cooler than your music taste [/hipster]
 
@Arda: I know very, very few Dutch artists.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I need to make an account ..
 
@FallenAngelEyes I also have a lot of Marco Borsato. You probably know him, if any.
 
I don't listen to the radio here either, so my exposure is limited.
A friend of mine sent me some Acda en de Munnik so I have a few songs of theirs
Couple by Anouk
 
9:59 PM
@Mana Never seen someone use an actual photo as their avatar online before.
@FallenAngelEyes A&M are good.
 
shrug I'm just too cool @Arda.
 
My b/f's fave Dutch song is Het Regent Zonnestralen
 
Hmm, it's great for comedic content only even.
 
Hehe yeah, that's why he likes it.
Just a fun song.
 
But really idk. Only on last.fm and Facebook do I use actual photos
 
10:00 PM
hmmmm, I think I listen to more Brit pop than anything else
 
> Maar zijn auto vloog hier vlakbij uit de bocht, zonder hem, zonder Herman, want die had hem net verkocht.
 
simply because it seems to be a thing on those sites to use actual photos.
 
@YiJiang your tool is being weird
 
@CRoss Don't be so judgemental. It can't help being different!
 
@ArdaXi It's better than "I found a bug"
 
10:01 PM
last.fm/group/Gaming.SE <-Here, last.fm Gaming.SE group
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@CRoss You think insults are better than constructive criticism?
 
Join level is all members can approve other members.
 
@ArdaXi I think I'm too lazy to accurately describe what's wrong at the moment
anyway, headed home, back later for my grilling
 
@CRoss Eh?
 
@YiJiang I don't think it's showing vote counts on the primary correctly
 
10:02 PM
@YiJiang It's listing the wrong up and down votes.
 
that
later y'all
 
Looks like my three choices are all making primary. All's well.
 
In fact, it's showing everyone as having +0 / -0
 
Yeah, I think they pulled the data from the API
Either that or it's a bug with the API
You can see from api.gaming.stackexchange.com/1.0/questions/… that +/- 0 is from the data itself
 
This way, even I could make primaries...
 
10:06 PM
I'll ask on StackApps later, or one of you guys could, hrm...
 
user30
@ArdaXi Why do you have a positive vote score? I was under the impression you should be in the triple negatives by now, after all, you will be a terrible mod.
 
Also, I'm fairly sure the ones it's listing as Top 10 aren't actually.
 
@ThomasMcDonald No, no, you've got it all wrong. I'll make a terrible mod. If I'm not elected, that is.
 
Where can I find a nice resolution pic of our logo so I can make it the avatar for the last.fm site?
 
But huh, there's another bug in there which I'll need to check out...
 
user30
10:07 PM
Okay, it's late, what exactly have I got wrong.
 
@ThomasMcDonald @Mana's quote.
 
Haha, thanks
 
user30
@ArdaXi It's almost the same thing, right?
 
@ThomasMcDonald It's not even related!
 
user30
@ArdaXi Ok...
 
10:09 PM
Making a bad mod is modifying something in a bad sense.
In this context, it means making a bad modification of an existing game.
 
user30
You're not a game.
 
user30
My last.fm says so many bad things about me.
 
@ThomasMcDonald Yes he is.
 
@ThomasMcDonald I can make one. Get it?
 
@Thomas: Join the group so we can see them!
 
user30
10:10 PM
@ArdaXi But it sounds so much better as a personal insult.
 
@ThomasMcDonald But that makes @Mana look like a jerk. And @Mana is awesome. Hence not a jerk.
 
Hey, @Powerlord, you figured out who flagged you down on Thursday? I don't think Oak or I ever figured out who it was.
 
user30
@Fallen I would do, if my last.fm account wasn't under a name I'm trying to shed.
 
@YiJiang If you do he'll just hide the data from the API entirely :)
 
user30
And I can't find a way to change it.
 
10:12 PM
Also, hey everyone.
 
Hey @GraceNote!
 
@GraceNote howdy
 
Evening @Grace
 
user30
Okay, new account time! Goodbye, 17990 plays since 2 Dec 2008.
 
You're doing... decently in the polls.
 
10:12 PM
@Thomas: They unfortunately don't let you change your username nor merge account details
 
@ArdaXi I'm utterly surprised that everyone seems to want to actually vote on me, but not vote on everyone else. Thus far, the only person who I for certain know didn't vote on me is the first voter.
 
user30
Although I did have ~19k if I remember rightly, before I stripped some awkward artists from there.
 
user30
Anyway, I shall be back in a bit
 
Also, hahaha, last.fm. That kind of thing could ruin me if I were to ever sign up for it, however the hejudas it works.
 
@GraceNote He was too busy voting to listen to the chat with candidates!
 
10:15 PM
@badp No, I was too busy putting all my answers in a draft so that when I get home for the second meeting I can just paste them all.
 
@Grace: As long as you weren't listening to music about skinning babies or something, I can't imagine it would really "ruin" you.
 
@FallenAngelEyes It's more frequency than selection. I have a strong tendency to listen to songs on repeat... for... a while...
 
Hehe. :)
 
Awww crap, the API's not returning any information for any new nominations anymore
 
Like two weeks ago, when, for 3 days in a row, I spent the entire work day listening to Virgin's High on repeat.
That's 8 hours of a 3 minute song.
 
Thrice
 
Haha, nice. XD
 
Hugely annoying, right... where the hell am I going to get the data...
 
I've done similar things before.
Though not in the past few years so much.
 
I mean, I guess with the occasional song by MAXIMUM THE HORMONE or Sloth Love Chunks, it gets funny looks for the selection, but nothing harmful.
 
10:18 PM
Usually on my portable music stuff and I lack an iPod, so I can't scrobble that.
 
@YiJiang =/
 
@ThomasMcDonald Your musical compatibility with @ThomasMcDonald is VERY HIGH
 
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Jeff Possible Duplicate: Is answers.onstartups.com part of the SE network? I ran across the OnStartups SE site today, and I was a little confused by the layout. It appears to be a custom site, still hosted by SE, but tied to a separate company. Did this company purchase rights to code befor...

 
I also lack an mp3 player. I do have a CD player, though!
I burned "The World Is Beyond Square" on a CD just for it, hahaha
 
@GraceNote Have you even seen my collection? It can't get much worse...
 
10:19 PM
I lack an mp3 player as well. :(
 
I have an iPod Touch, but lack a use for it.
Well, I only use it to preserve my phone's battery.
 
Lack a use for it?
Oh.
 
Otherwise I could just listen to music on my phone.
 
@ArdaXi Like I said, the worst I'll get is just funny looks. It's all balanced out by things like the pillows or Motoi Sakuraba
 
My cellphone is an old Siemens with 2 colors: black and orange!
 
10:21 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Old is really, really relative.
 
I've a Sprint Katana. It's not for listening to music. Or, really, anything other than calling people.
 
I find my HTC Hero old.
 
@ArdaXi Isn't that 2 years old?
 
@GraceNote Pretty much. It was new and shiny about a year ago.
 
10:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that's considered "old"
All it does is call people, and that's pretty much all I need it to do. I don't even have a cellphone plan, just a refillable Sim card that I put a few euro on now and again.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I have that lying in a box somewhere gathering dust.
 
I suppose the youth of this generation does come from a time period where things get old real fast.
 
Though my b/f just got a new HTC Desire HD running Android, so he said I could have his old HTC.
 
@GraceNote feels really young again
@FallenAngelEyes I want a Desire Z :(
 
His boss wants him to start programming Android apps
 
10:24 PM
D:
 
his current mobile contract wasn't up til 2012 but it's running windows mobile and the Android emulators he tried weren't really that great.
So he convinced his boss to get him a new phone ^-^
 
@FallenAngelEyes The Android emulator is quite good.
 
So I might switch over to his old phone, but I haven't decided yet.
...
Been thinking too much in Dutch lately.
 
@ArdaXi It's slow as hell
 
@Fabian That depends on your machine I suppose. It's snappier than my phone on mine.
 
10:27 PM
@ArdaXi I only tried it shortly once
And my computer is relatively fast, but I never compared it really side-by-side with my phone
 
I've done Android development on both the emulator and my live phone.
Derailed much?
 
user30
@ArdaXi That's not me.
 
Derailed from what? What was our original subject?
 
@ThomasMcDonald Really? "17990 plays since 2 Dec 2008" "Thomas McDonald, Male, United Kingdom"
 
user30
@ArdaXi Oh that is me, coolbeans
 
10:35 PM
@GraceNote My self-deprecation.
@ThomasMcDonald I just censored the username since you didn't want it to be known ;-)
 
user30
Meh, what do I care.
 
@ArdaXi Until you figure out how to downvote yourself, you aren't going to get very far with that.
 
@GraceNote It's netted me 3 downvotes so far.
 
user30
Where's this group then
 
@ArdaXi One of which was an early mass downvote. Which, oddly, spared me. So I'm not sure what's up with that.
 
10:37 PM
@ThomasMcDonald: last.fm/group/Gaming.SE
 
user30
Founds it myself.
 
@GraceNote Stop making it better :(
 
So, by the way, for anyone who did suspect that either of my current downvotes came from a spree, that would be incorrect.
I'm glad to be downvoted, to be honest.
I do want the job, but it's nice to have some level of disapproval. It can only mean that there is room for improvement, and improvement is good.
 
@GraceNote You could try to make wine from water ;-)
 
@GraceNote Incessant approval gets exhausting!
You could do better, @Grace!
 
10:40 PM
@Fabian Use the water to grow grapes, use grapes to make wine.
 
@GraceNote Or, you could try to use Yahoo! Answers as a source for an SE answer.
 
@ArdaXi If only there were a game about babbys
On second thought, that would probably be a horrifying abomination against God and man...
 
@ArdaXi If I could find an answer there, wouldn't that invalidate the need for an SE site?
 
user30
@GraceNote Q_Q
 
user30
disproval++
 
10:43 PM
@GraceNote That's like saying 4chan could invalidate the need for news sites.
 
I can't tell if that's supposed to be some kind of scary clown or not.
@ArdaXi 4chan's not a Q&A
 
@GraceNote No, but it can be used for the purpose
 
@ArdaXi I prefer all my news in the form of memes and disturbing pornography
 
You just... don't do it.
 
But the intent of Yahoo is to be a Q&A, is it not?
 
I see
 
@GraceNote I'm not sure.
I mean, you could try to use it for Q&A... but I really wouldn't want to try it.
 
HHmm... Looking at the Primary so far... we have one clear frontrunner, 2-3 clearly behind, and then the pack is all largely pretty even TBQH.
Which is... 1) Pretty much exactly as expected, and 2) Promises for an exciting election!
yay
 

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