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@murgatroid99 ah, that's it
Excel or some program does (did?) that by default, leading to much irritation
@NickT That's the same thing that floating point arithmetic does
@murgatroid99 ah, so excel probably just used that
@NickT probably
this is what happens when you try to describe a system to a bunch of geeks. we geek out about every detail :P
@Wipqozn I made an edit to my question to clarify what I am asking. Will that be enough to get it reopened?
16:04
@NickT I hope they fixed that, since floating point arithmetic was never meant to be used to represent exact numbers
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Dear Chrome - you pick BAD times to steal focus
I don't think Lauren's a math geek, for instance. we're probably just confusing the hell out of her
I hear someone revving their car engine to where it's bouncing off the rev limiter
wtf are they doing
hmm, nope, I'm wrong. she has a BS in Math & Psychology.
kind of an interesting job for someone with that background, but then again it's also what Grace does, and I think she's got some technical degree from what I recall.
@agent86 You have gained a rank in eStalking! New runes available!
16:09
@NickT :D well, her linkedin page is linked from her profile, so it was 2-clicks worth of stalking.
which makes it so much less creepy
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@agent86 I know that CHAOS people have some pretty interesting and varied backgrounds. It is pretty fascinating.
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Q: How does Cold Blooded work?

ShinraiThe Wizard's Cold Blooded passive says "Cold damage dealt to chilled and frozen targets is increased by 20%". While 'frozen' is pretty obvious (although there aren't many ways to freeze targets) 'chilled' is a bit less obvious. What specifically qualifies as a debuff to allow for this bonus dam...

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Q: How can I search for a specific item on Blacksmith?

Michel AyresI was looking in the list of blacksmith recipes and found some interesting items, but when I started looking for them, it took some time to find. How can I create specific searches in-game for items in my blacksmith?

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Q: How do I dispel a high level `filter` curse on meta.stackoverflow.com?

Evan CarrollI've been playing the game pretty hardcore over the past years, and I've even accumulated a lot of EXP. The EXP in meta.stackoverflow.com represents your reputation amongst peers. I'm now up to 436 EXPs, so I like to think of my self as a pretty well respected guy. Since starting the game I've be...

so why was this deleted?
@NickT three users decided it should've been deleted
why was it closed in the first place though? there's a question there, just edit it to remove the crap
16:18
@Lazers what is this I don't even
@agent86 I voted to meta it
@AshleyNunn from reading Joel's blog, they have some interesting hiring practices.
@agent86 I would say to migrate to meta.SO except that there are about a thousand dupes of that question there
@Sterno don't migrate crap
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@agent86 Yeah, it's pretty fascinating.
@murgatroid99 Other than the way he wrote it, it seems like a meta question
i.e., I'm having problems with my account, WTF
16:20
@Sterno As I said, people ask that question on meta.SO about 5 times a day
@murgatroid99 Well, I voted before you said that, and I don't read meta. SO
plus, this is just trolling. guy's locked out, and he's trying to get around it by posting something bogus on some other site.
@Sterno people see that message with the shortened link and they ask on meta.SO instead of clicking on the link, which goes to a post with the answer
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@agent86 yeah, he is just being a troll. A bad one at that
anyone like Regina Spektor?
16:24
@Rachel Voted.
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@NickT yes
@AshleyNunn you can stream her new album for free (it releases in 8 days)
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@NickT awesome!
@NickT I don't think we want a question for every game asking "will we be doing a promotion for this game?" before it releases. Especially when the only reasoning the OP provides is "this game is better than this other game".
@Wipqozn I'm not saying it's a good quesiton, I just don't think it's delete worthy (close maybe)
16:26
@Wipqozn Thanks :) Only need 2 more votes now
@NickT Anything which is closed is viable for deleting.
Closing is meant to be a temporary state before a question is either fixed and re-opened; or deleted (Except for dups).
deleting doesn't (nor shouldn't) reflexively follow a closure
the thing was just argumentative; which could just be fixed
Only if the user was willing to fix it. I'm assuming the users who voted to delete didn't think the OP had any intention of doing that, and I agree. He was more interested in arguing with RAven.
Is there a way to don't get -1 by down-vote? o.O

I down-vote a question, but didn't get my -1. Is that right, or it's a bug?
16:30
@MichelAyres Only answers result in the -1.
@Wipqozn and he called me PaperBot!
it's not "his" question once he posts it, it's the community's. nobody even edited it to remove the argumentativeness (if he constantly rolled it back that would be something else)
@NickT Then it's just "Are we having a promotion for game X?" which has no place on meta without reasoning.
so change it to something valid "what promitions are coming up?"
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Q: What plans do we have for Mass Effect 3?

bwarnerGiven our recent contests, and that Mass Effect 3 is probably in the sweet spot for this site, it seems a given that we should do something in conjunction with its launch. If we're going to have a promotion with some significant prizes, and we could announce it in time to get some of the Mass Ef...

That's an example of a good question.
16:32
so copy that and change ME3 into Torchlight 2?
and fwiw, I'm the only downvote on that question
because I think those questions are stupid, but 20 other people don't apparently
@Wipqozn But @Wipqozn some questions are closed and not deleted because they are good for search purposes.
@MichelAyres Like I said, duplicates.
The only questions which are closed and not viable for deletion are duplicates.
@MichelAyres mostly dupes, but who really cares about internal site politics
@Wipqozn so what is the difference between the ME3 and an equivalent torchlight 2 question?
@NickT yeah, I don't see why we need to do that in the original question
we can just ask a new one from scratch
we don't have to polish ALL the turds
@NickT That would be fine.
@badp Exactly.
16:35
especially on meta
@badp more the principle of the thing; if he kinda-sorta has that question, why not make it a decent question
@NickT Because he doesn't care about anything other than leaving anymore.
@NickT ownership of a question on meta is really irrelevant - unless you're a jerk. Then you should keep your downvotes and have the stain remain e.g. should you ever go for mod
I can see the principle on the main site
on meta... not so much
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Q: Resistance or Damage?

Michael MaluraI'am playing an Barb and would like to know if i should look for Vitality or Strength? The reason why i'am asking, Diablo 3 seems to use an "totally random" System to drop Items. I'am only finding stuff like Strength and Intelligence :D How much Life | Damage do i need in Hell? So Barbarians. ...

the intent of the question is pretty clearly "Diablo 3 sucks compared to Torchlight 2, amirite?" which is just terrible. that some small percentage of the question is valid, and could potentially be salvaged via editing, even though it's pretty much speculation and won't be answered with anything other than "wait and see" is pretty secondary, imho
sometimes riding enough lines between "valid" and "invalid" pushes you over that edge into the invalid territory.
I might have handled it differently, by posting an answer that's essentially what my comment was ("CHAOS runs the promos, and they tell us very little ahead of time"), but I can't fault other's reaction to it
16:46
why close this question? based on the answer it seems to have a fairly straightforward answer
someone wanting maximum gold is that strange? what am I not seeing
@NickT I think that's a terrible question, but not sure if I'd say it's close worthy. If I were to close it, I wouldn't close it as not constructive.
why is it even terrible?
didn't close it, don't understand why it was closed.
I could see someone not really caring about it (e.g. they care more about staying alive/killing things-type-stats)
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Q: Counter-Strike: Source Server Map Config

ZyteXI have not been able to find any thing about this by googling it becuse just a bunch of other server related issues pop up... Anyway, how can I change the map config for a specific map only through a SRCDS CSS server? What I mean is that when the map is surf_ski_2 it should change the gravity, ai...

16:49
put the question to @OrigamiRobot @StrixVaria @MichelAyres @fredley
I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that + Gold Pickup Range is the most underrated survival stat in D3
why's that
ask and answer your own question about why I should care about that stat
@LessPop_MoreFizz repairing things?
@LessPop_MoreFizz health pickups are lumped in too, correct?
@NickT Because with a gold pickup range of +10 yards you can stand pretty far away from things and as they die the health orbs automatically just trigger.
@OrigamiRobot Correct!
16:52
does it up the range you can grab items?
get 20 yard gold/health pickup and you can just sit halfway across the screen and get healed as things die.
Not so useful against bosses, but amaaaaazing for large packs.
Perfect for monks.
@NickT Negative.
what if you're trying to budget the health globes?
@OrigamiRobot Monks don't need much.
16:53
@LessPop_MoreFizz Not much, but more than none.
@OrigamiRobot Melee classes can get like 5 yards from one item and good to go.
this reminds me of my demon hunter who died while literally ringed by 7 health globes
@NickT See that! Should've had some +Gold Pickup!
I find it kind of sucktastic that I have to move to pick them up, since I'm generally spamming ranged attacks while pushing shift
so I've got to stop range attacking, move the cursor near me, click, go back to range attacking
@NickT I voted to close that question. The answer is great (I even helped with that), but the question itself is not (My opinion). I didn't think it was good (when I voted was 2 votes already)
16:55
@agent86 Get some pickup range! Wooooooo.
@MichelAyres If a question is closed, it's slated for deletion.
@LessPop_MoreFizz that doesn't help, same problem. can't pick up unless you move after they drop
I'm glad the AH has made picking up gems completely useless
@LessPopMoreFizz understood =)
Except rubies
if you're holding shift, and something drops within your radius, you won't pick it up until you move
16:58
@NickT good luck =X
@OrigamiRobot man, I had thought ~10k or so was good for a square ruby, but then they started selling for 8k, and today I picked up 2 or 3 for 4k
WTF AH
Yeah, I just checked the prices of the Normal crafting materials… turns out I should have been vendoring my blues and yellows all this time.
@Brant I have been saying that for a week now!
@agent86 related:
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Q: How much does it cost to combine a gem?

Nick TOn the AH it seems like the cost to buy some of the gems outright is cheaper than it is to combine 3 lesser gems, but I don't have any to check. How much does it cost (in gold and materials) to combine gems between each quality level?

16:59
The mats go for 20-25g each.
Well, vendor blues.
You can auction yellows for a few hundred G of profit over vendor value usually
@LessPopMoreFizz but then is it even worth the time?
The worst thing is the 2d duration.
@LessPop_MoreFizz I was following your advice by posting yellows for 100x their level requirement and failing miserably. :P
I'm not sure why people are so surprised that the market for low level normal mode gear and mats is shit.
17:00
earning a few hundred gold takes like...10 seconds when killing shit
why would anyone bid on an item 2 days before the auction ends?
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not surprised, but the speed at which it happened was pretty crazy.
I mean, look at WoW sometime - the market value of a green item is roughly equal to the market value of the crafting materials derived form it.
@MichelAyres yeah, but bad doesn't necessarily mean it should be closed, just downvoted
And even that market is only buoyed by two phenomena we won't see in Diablo: Twinking, and Cosmetic Enchants.
17:01
Diablo doesn't have some kind of internal economy supply limit right? It's just rarity?
I get the feeling that over time, we'll see fewer bits of normal-leveled rares and such
I was turning around rares in minutes for a solid day, then everything suddenly stopped selling and the prices dropped to barely above vendor cost
@tiddy Correct.
K
I'll wait 5 years when everything is common
CHECKMATE IDIOTS
@tiddy 5 years? more like 2 days dude
17:02
@tiddy Well, there are a variety of systems designed to remove items from the economy - the problem is that those systems aren't sufficiently compelling at the moment.
The 5 year comment was referring to my Skyrim addiction
I'm rolling all rares already, and have been for days. all with super-crazy-enchanted-2-tha-max +50hojillion to everything
@tiddy ah, indeed. you're hooked on the skyrim
Yeah pretty bad
Yay for reimbursements! :D
So Diablo is ..easy?
17:04
@NickT I down-voted it too =X
hidden feature of Diablo III: drops are like BitCoin
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@tiddy on normal, it's pretty easy. normal's the lowest of the 4 difficulties, though
normal = easy, nightmare = normal, hell = hard, inferno = legendary
and mainly it's easy because the auction house system is... odd for a game like diablo
I guess my question is are you ever really lacking in quality gear?
17:06
normally in a rpg, you get by on whatever you can grind yourself, but with the AH you are essentially pooling your grinded gear with everyone else's
so end up with something that's crap for your class? well, chances are pretty good someone somewhere got a better drop for your character. go "trade" it on the AH
they're supposedly going to launch a real money AH where you can trade with others for $$ instead of in-game gold
Oh that'll go well
then blizzard takes a cut
@agent86 why would anyone do that instead of what you have now?
WTB 15 rep
Why would anyone trade items for fake money when you can get real money
17:09
@agent86 "supposedly" nothing, it's one of the most controversial features.
@OrigamiRobot market value on an accept checkmark is currently $0.97
@Brant I say "supposedly" since they haven't done it yet, and I think they've pushed the date back on it.
@agent86 For you, I'll round up to an even $1
Ah. Well, it's definitely going to happen at some point soon. I'm surprised it wasn't available at launch, honestly.
@murgatroid99 I think the incentive is for sellers - find an awesome drop, make a couple bucks potentially.
for buyers, no clue. I guess it's possible that eventually most of the good stuff will move there, and you'll have to pay money
Not sure how I can wrap my head around Blizzard making a game, selling the game, and then literally nickel and diming you for stuff in the game
17:10
@agent86 It's not much of an incentive if nobody buys. Why would anyone buy if they can get it easily without paying real money for it?
RMT trading happened in Diablo 2 as well, but this way it's safe for buyers/sellers. Oh, and Blizzard gets a small percentage. Can't forget that.
@tiddy eh, with the gold auction house, you can buy practically anything
@tiddy You don't have to use the RMAH
Blizzard themselves don't list the items, it's all player-to-player.
@murgatroid99 I see a future D3 economy where people buy good things at the gold AH and flip them on the RMAH, effectively destroying the gold AH
17:11
Now though right? Once the real money AH goes up, EVERYONE will be on that
@tiddy except buyers?
@tiddy RMAH is going to be all end game gear.
I don't play D3, but if I did I would never go near a RMAH to buy anything
@agent86 You'll be able to outright buy gold on the RMAH as well, so that will all even out fairly quickly
I'd put all my gear on there
17:12
Nobody is going to buy a ring for $10 when they will replace it in a week.
@tiddy eh, it's all speculation at this point. I'm just glad they're making money from some shlub, since it means that's likely to fund more development on the game. I don't plan to be that shlub though :)
@OrigamiRobot $10 no, but $0.50 maybe
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Q: Is there a Horadric Cube in Diablo 3?

sjohnstonOne of the small things I really enjoyed in Diablo 2 was the Horadric Cube. I know Diablo 3 has crafting NPCs, but a list of recipes just doesn't feel as "free" or experimental as jamming some stuff into the Cube and seeing what pops out. Does the Horadric Cube make a comeback in Diablo 3? Or is...

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Q: Change Counter-Strike: Source Server Map Config

ZyteXI have not been able to find any thing about this by googling it becuse just a bunch of other server related issues pop up... Anyway, how can I change the map config for a specific map only through a SRCDS CSS server? What I mean is that when the map is surf_ski_2 it should change the gravity, ai...

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Q: Can I give my follower potions?

sjohnstonIn Diablo 2, you could feed a follower potions by dropping them from your inventory onto their portrait. It wasn't very practical in the heat of battle, but it was possible. I've tried this in Diablo 3, but it didn't seem to do anything. Can I no longer use potions on followers? Or is there a di...

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Q: What determines whether I can surf on a cloud or just bust through it?

Abby T. MillerIn Ski Safari, there's at least one achievement that involves surfing on clouds. I'm trying to nail down the method for consistently surfing them and avoiding busting straight through them and dropping back down to the ground. At first I thought I had to be on my skis or a penguin to cloud surf...

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Q: What's the optimal way to use eagles?

Abby T. MillerWhen I hitch a ride with an eagle in Ski Safari, I usually try one of two things: keeping my flight horizontal, so the eagle can take me as far as possible before it poofs away; or directing it up at about a 45-degree angle, increasing my distance both vertically and horizontally, so that when th...

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Q: What has Blizzard said about their goals for the Diablo III auction house?

Nick TIn the endless panels and developer/designer talks given on Diablo III did they talk about their goals for the global auction house and RMT auction house? From an economic point-of-view, the supply of goods would seem to increase much faster (especially as they aren't consumed) than the number o...

@agent86 This.
Yeah so what If all my items are .50 , if I sell hundreds of them
17:13
@tiddy would you ever buy from a RMAH?
If they had something I wanted at reasonable price yeah
You introduce real money to a game and that game becomes a real business
@Lazers not close enough to this one it seems
Buying items for $$$ is something that was already happening in Diablo 2, don't forget.
look at the TF2 store... people buy useless cosmetic items there constantly
Yeah
17:15
that's like huge freaking business for valve
Valve made the game free it was selling so much
HATZ
long-term goal of D3: F2P?
I seem to remember them launching that, and within a month one of the community contributors got cut a $19,000 check for his/her cut of the sales
@tiddy Valve made the game free so they could make more money
17:15
Yeah
BUt the mannconomy allowed them to do that
Crap, I spent the last of my gold on the most expensive gem I could for my helm, but I bought the wrong color.
will people buy stuff at a RMAH? abso-freaking-lutely they will. Maybe if Blizzard has learned from watching valve, they'll be adding new items and stuff to the game as a result.
So what's better: 17% MF, or 17% XP?
@Brant XP, imho
I'd go for the MF, but that's only because I like shiny things.
17:17
alrighty
They'll need to establish value for the current AH if it'll survive and be used for anything but total junk
with %MF, you're just going to end up vendor trashing a lot of blues
@Brant 17% Gold Find, IMO
Gold Find Best Find
Well, I wanted an amethyst, but I accidentally bought a ruby
classic mistake
17:18
@tiddy Diablo II economy proved that there is a demand for RMT of items. RMAH is just Blizzards way of saying 'hey, if you're gonna do this, at least go through us, let us have a cut, and don't get your credit card stolen by chinese mobsters.'
I want to level up faster, so I can play harder areas, so I can get better rewards. there's probably some diminishing returns past a certain point, (and obviously at the level cap) but for now, I want to powerlevel.
@Brant Save the Ruby for weapon.
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Q: Songs & instrument Game Alternative (Stepmania & Guitar Hero)

Luis AlvaradoI am looking in Ubuntu for alternatives to Stepmania an Guitar Hero. I used Stepmania with Wine but I heard there was a Linux version for it. Same for Guitar Hero where I can connect the playable guitar and enjoy. Are there an alternative for this 2 and if so which ones.

Rubies in Weapons Is Best.
Already have one in there. I just needed to socket my hat.
17:20
@agent86 Salvage all the items!
It's no big deal, I'll use the gems eventually.
@Brant Resell the ruby, get an Emerald.
@TimStone AH makes salvaging not at all worth it.
The only things worth salvaging are normal mode act 1 loot. Like, level 1-10 shit.
1) you can get better gear than blacksmithed gear there (frequently rares are cheaper on the AH than it costs to craft blacksmith blues), and 2) you can buy crafting ingredients cheaper there than the sell value on most blues.
17:21
and combing gems is a total waste of money below ranks 6 or so
@agent86 I've yet to visit the AH, so meh.
omggggg someone tell me something I can make for dinner tonight
FAE
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@spugsley steak and corn on the cob and mashed potatoes
@FAE I don't have a grill ;.;
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@spugsley I am making hamsteak and garlic mashed potatoes and salad
FAE
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17:31
@spugsley well crap
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I am having sandwiches
because I am lazy
and also can't really cook
@TimStone O-o I ain't no master chef!
@AshleyNunn yummmm
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@spugsley This site might help you? (NSFW) (if you click the name of the food it suggests you get recipes)
@AshleyNunn bahahaha I love it
17:32
@spugsley Practice makes bacon perfect.
@AshleyNunn it told me to make this, it looks like a very clear soup
@Rachel Because there are already 2 questions about the pros / cons of various weapon setups for monks. It doesn't make sense to have one question for each, i.e., "Should I use a 2-hander? Should I Dual-Wield? Is it better to dual-wield?", etc. If your question is not sufficiently answered by the duplicate question, I'd suggest either asking for more info, or throwing up a bounty.
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@AshleyNunn Holy shit this is amazing
@FAE Hear, hear!
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@NickT Maybe it is just an invisible soup
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17:35
@FAE I love it. :D
@spugsley I suggest a George Foreman electric grill.
Those things are amazing.
@AshleyNunn Is every recipe seafood? Or do I just have really bad luck? lol
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@RavenDreamer lol bad luck I think. I have seen a lot of chicken recipes myself.
*good luck. Seafood is win.
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@TimStone eeew
...I don't particularly care for most seafood.
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17:38
@RavenDreamer Same
Salmon and Tuna, and then Sushi.
That's about it.
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I can't manage sushi
I've tried, I just can't do it
Well, guess I'm not taking you out to a sushi place for your birthday, then.
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If you managed to take me out anywhere for my birthday, considering the whole y'know, ocean thing, I would be seriously impressed :P
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I like sushi. And fish sticks.
17:39
@FAE What?! Crazy.
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That is about it.
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Q: Does "Marked for Death" stack?

Michel AyresI saw the question Marked For Death - everyone or just me? and was thinking. If there is a party with 2+ Demon-hunters does this skill stack?

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Q: What are the numbers next to the items when forging in Diablo 3?

ElpezmuertoWhen forging armor and weapons at the blacksmith what are the numbers next to each item?

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Q: Can you see the debuffs on a mob?

Nick TWhen in a group of people killing this or that boss, due to all the effects it is difficult to see if my Witch Doctor's DoT is still on or if it ran out. Is there a way to see the debuffs that a mob (or boss at least) has on it like the little squares the player has?

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Q: Diablo 3 - gaining experience

C-dizzleI currently have a bunch of equipment that gives experience bonuses, but how do equipped weapons give experience? I have a sword that gives a +10 experience per kill, but do I have to use the weapon in the kill to gain the bonus? Since I am using the Witch Doctor as my class and most of my kill...

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Q: Do more followers act the same as a multiplayer game?

C-dizzleIn Diablo 3, when you are playing with more people online, the monsters are harder to kill. Does the same logic follow during single player action? I am currently using the Witch Doctor class, I have a templar following me, 3 rabid dogs out helping during battle and sometimes get a quest where ...

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@spugsley Popcorn for breakfast for dinner?
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17:41
That just sounds like NOT FOOD to me
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@Ullallulloo hahaha
@tiddy Since the Blizzard cut is $1, I don't recommend trying to make a fortune selling items for .50
@agent86 I see the opposite. I think most items will be on the gold AH, and the majority of transactions on the RMAH will be buying/sellling gold itself.
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Yaaaaaaay, I finally earned enough coins to buy another color pack in Draw Something
fuck diablo 3
TF2 server is now empty.
17:58
@agent86 One guy I'm playing with plans on doing this.
@AshleyNunn Popcorn + liquid sounds disgusting.

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