The Bridge

StrixVaria

13:03

I was at the boardwalk yesterday and there was a 7D Dark Ride

It was closed since it's off season now but I really wanted to know how they defined a dimension.

Unionhawk

That's not

I mean

They're definining it as 3D+motion+water+idk some air jet thing by your feet to make it feel like snakes or some shit+I have no idea where else you can go

Nzall

@Unionhawk let's see, all 3 dimensions, plus motion, plus fire, plus water, plus wind, plus arrows in the face

Unionhawk

They just hired the avatar to add 4 dimensions

Except those are elements and not dimensions

Nzall

youtube.com/watch?v=i_pptTHuphk This is a 5D attraction in Walibi Netherlands

SaintWacko

@Unionhawk smells to, probably

Nzall

13:11

so the base 3 dimensions. 4th dimension is special effects. 5th element is interaction

StrixVaria

Pretty much any ride is 4D by default since it takes time to experience it.

Kevin van der Velden

Well there's sound so clearly it's 6d

Duh

Nzall

Ow, apparently that video stops before they enter the actual ride

Sterno

@TimStone I forgot you had Chrysallid poison on you and you died. Sorry man. I'm a bad commander

Kevin van der Velden

Not as bad as @Wipqozn though

Wipqozn

13:24

@KevinvanderVelden You guys are just jealous people aren't as willing to fight under you as they are to die under me

fredley

@Nzall What's the domain of special effects?

Nzall

@fredley Marketing I guess

fredley

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   \o/  <- Nzall

Unionhawk

ughhhhhhhhhhhkdgjhlksdfjgsfdgsdgfasdfg

cazc_941

-4

Q: Game CD extremely scratched

This is probably not the best place to post this question, but I couldn't find a better place. One of my game CDs has been massively scratched. I've tried using toothpaste already but that did not work. Are there any tips I can try that might get it to work again, preferably without costing money?

technical-issues

I don't agree with this closure

fredley

13:28

I mean, normal TV easily has 5 dimensions, even while on mute: [R, G, B, x, y, t]

cazc_941

We have lots of questions that can be answered many different ways like this one

That's what voting is for

fredley

@cazc_941 It has -4 votes...

cazc_941

On answers

It's closed as 'too broad'

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley only 3 of those are dimensions

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden disagree, intensity of red light, green light and blue light are all dimensions

@cazc_941 gaming.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask

Kevin van der Velden

13:31

@fredley what's the value at (0,1,2,3,4,5) (r,g,b,x,y,t) then?

cazc_941

I can't imagine an entire book that answers that

But I can imagine a small handful of different answers

Yuuki

Hey look, a stormtrooper.

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden (0,1,2,3,4,5)... I'm not sure I understand your question

Oh I see, you are treating (R,G,B) as the value at (x,y,t)?

Wipqozn

@cazc_941 good point

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley you say R, G and B are dimensions. I'm stating a position in the 6 dimensional space with the axes R, G, B, x, y and t

Yuuki

13:32

cc @GodEmperorDune

Kevin van der Velden

And wondering what the value is at that point

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden In a multiverse, everything is a dimension, the 'value' is just the particular multiverse you happen to be in

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley that would be a 4 dimensional space of (x, y, t, dimension), R,G,B are still values at particular points

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Not if those 6 coordinates are the input to your multiverse travelling machine

Kevin van der Velden

You have one R,G,B value at one point, you don't have a dimension for red

fredley

13:34

@KevinvanderVelden The value has a dimension for red

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley I don't think the word dimension means what you think it means

fredley

(R,G,B) is a three dimensional value

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley also we were talking about a normal TV =p

Unionhawk

@KevinvanderVelden, crying: You can't just call everything a dimension!
@fredley, pointing at a passing seagull: That's a dimension

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley no, it's a 3-vector

fredley

13:35

@KevinvanderVelden the '3' in 3-vector denoting the dimensionality?

Tim Stone

@Sterno It's okay, Chrysallids are jerks

fredley

An RGB value can be considered as a point in 3-dimensional space

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley stupid language

fredley

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley yes, but that's different from it being 6 dimensional

fredley

13:37

@Unionhawk YOUR FACE IS A DIMENSION

Kevin van der Velden

That's a 3 dimensional space with values describing points in a different 3 dimensional space

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden 3 dimensions of colour, 3 of spacetime, 3+3 = 6

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley dimensions aren't numbers, you can't add them like that

Sterno

@TimStone True, but it should have been @Wipqozn. Tim "Turbo" Stone was actually useful and had a bunch of +hack covert ops under his belt

DanmakuGrazer

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Kevin van der Velden

13:38

A 3-vector + a 3-vector is still a 3-vector

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Not if you stack them on top of each other

Unionhawk

Actually it's a 7-vector

fredley

which is what you need to do if you're fully describing this TV scene in e.g. a video game

Unionhawk

It's science

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley then it's a 2x3 matrix

fredley

13:38

You encode it as a list of values

(0,1,2,3,4,5) describes a particular point that exists in this 6-dimensional hellscape

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley if you're describing the TV in a video game you'd need a 4 dimensional matrix (x, y, t, r/g/b index)

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden You can't cheat by smushing dimensions together like that

Unionhawk

I mean you can

Tim Stone

@Sterno :( @Wipqozn is my highest ranked specialist and he's just especially good at not successfulyl hacking

fredley

@Unionhawk The rgb value is still 3 dimensional

Unless it's a black and white tv

Unionhawk

13:40

rgb(0,1,2) is #000102

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley It's still a point in 3d space

Sterno

@TimStone He's my Skirmisher and he's awful at ever hitting. Basically, @Wipqozn is just bad at everything.

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden It's also a point in colour space!

badp

TIL JSON5 exists

disappointed it's not called J5ON

Kevin van der Velden

Note that the 4d matrix would have values like (x1,y1,t1,0) = 255, (x1,y1,t1,1) = 0, (x1,y1,t1,2) = 255

fredley

13:42

@KevinvanderVelden What's that equals for?

Kevin van der Velden

Those are the values at those points in the matrix

badp

it's not really a 4D matrix

Nzall

So does TwoBugs still use the chat?

Unionhawk

oh boy student loan payment comes out tomorrow

Kevin van der Velden

Because I am not going to write a 4 dimensional matrix in chat. I am not that insane

fredley

13:42

RIP @twobugs

badp

it's a map of quaternions to triples

Unionhawk

OH BOY

Tim Stone

@badp I'd rather use HOCON at that point, tbh

@Sterno There was a brief period where he was shockingly good at overwatch shots but I think that time has now passed

fredley

@TimStone [1\n2\n3] and [1,2,3] are the same array.

No thank you

Tim Stone

I mean it's just a "commas are optional" thing

Sterno

13:43

@TimStone I have it on good authority that he's terrible at Overwatch.

GENJI BURN

Tim Stone

Ohhhhh snap

badp

I don't know if concatenation is a good idea. Maybe if you're #include'ing different files

oh hey chat is scrolling again

hooray

quartata

Sounds like most of these changes are to make it easier to emit JSON without using an encoder

fredley

Man, I miss having stupid pointless Bridge arguments with @KevinvanderVelden

badp

@fredley wait

does that mean this is not a stupid pointless Bridge argument with @KevinvanderVelden?

progress!

fredley

13:45

@badp Obviously not

badp

well done @KevinvanderVelden you really helped us help you help us all

quartata

cause they're arguing about points in vector spaces, it's not pointless

3

badp

ah, but the vector space was all wrong anyway

everyone knows the only useful computer representation of 3D points is quadruples!

quartata

that's only part 1 of the joke

badp

are you asking me to learn from the mistakes of the past?

that's preposterous

we must go on loop until this is funny again

fredley

13:48

@badp x,y,z,opacity?

badp

@fredley github.com/ssloy/tinyrenderer/wiki/…

SaintWacko

Pöpcørn | Recipes with The Swedish Chef | The Muppets

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badp

AFAIK four-dimensional representation of three-dimensional spaces is pretty much an universal thing in 3D computer graphics

Yuuki

@fredley Up, down, top, bottom, charm and, strange.

fredley

@badp I see, so you encode the position of the camera in an extra dimension? Neat.

cazc_941

13:51

@SaintWacko yeee

fredley

@Yuuki It's been ages since I've been asked that

cazc_941

@quartata hue

quartata

@fredley it's called homogenous coordinates and it's just to make the math suck a little less

cazc_941

@Nzall Nope

fredley

@cazc_941 , saturation, value

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SaintWacko

13:53

@fredley , alpha

fredley

@SaintWacko , x, y, z

quartata

wha?

That was in reply to "so you add an extra dimension" not whatever quark joke you're trying to do

by all means continue with that

fredley

How do you encode the reflection properties of a surface in 3d graphics?

How many dimensions does that have?

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley sorry, work work work

Shall we continue arguing dimensions?

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Those are odd names for dimensions

Kevin van der Velden

13:57

Quite annoying to work with I'd imagine

Yuuki

Is there a dimension where Cartesian coordinates are denoted as (y, z, x)?

Unionhawk

I hope not

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki I've probably used a space representation where that was useful for some reason

Yuuki

And whenever you work in 2D, you have to write coordinates as (y, N/A, x).

Unionhawk

Or just y,0,x

Yuuki

13:58

(y, null, x)

Tim Stone

NaN

Yuuki

@Unionhawk See that implies that there's a z dimension to work with.

Private Pansy

I'll just quickly mention quaternions and leave

Unionhawk

Well that's why you don't do (y z x)

Private Pansy

Quaternion

In mathematics, the quaternions are a number system that extends the complex numbers. They were first described by Irish mathematician William Rowan Hamilton in 1843 and applied to mechanics in three-dimensional space. A feature of quaternions is that multiplication of two quaternions is noncommutative. Hamilton defined a quaternion as the quotient of two directed lines in a three-dimensional space or equivalently as the quotient of two vectors. Quaternions are generally represented in the form: a + bi + cj + dk where a, b, c, and d are real numbers, and i, j, and k are the fundamental quaternion...

quartata

14:00

@fredley Do you mean like positions on the surface? The reflection part itself is a map

Avery

ohgod

Quaternions are just pain_irl

Dragonrage

e to the pi i plus one equals zero

quartata

Presumably it's 2D using whatever mapping you used to put the texture on the object i.e UV mapping

Wipqozn

@TimStone I rarely hack on my game until I get an upgrades gremlin. The chance to hack before is just too low to be useful.

badp

@fredley this is not a joke, it's just dumbing in a no dumb area, but please, keep going, maybe we'll find out it'll eventually a representation of 3D space that is useful for machine learning

#include <fallacies/sunken_cost/there_is_a_point_where_we_needed_to_stop.jpg>

quartata

14:02

@badp oh snap

fredley

           ^
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    where we needed to stop
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Unionhawk

\o/

Private Pansy

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fredley

\o/___JOK____JOK__JOK_JOK______JOK_____

Private Pansy

Hrump. Stupid HTML collapsing whitespace

badp

14:03

@PrivatePansy just use a blank braille character probably

Kevin van der Velden

@badp why are you including jpgs in your C code? That just sounds like a bad time

quartata

I mean you could do it

badp

@KevinvanderVelden we were already having a bad time

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden Obviously that's code from an alternative dimension where we've managed to port Webpack to C/C++

You probably won't want to live there

Tim Stone

@Wipqozn You have an upgraded Gremlin

quartata

14:04

@PrivatePansy onononono

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy I mean, does it have trump? I could probably live there if there's no trump

Unionhawk

Yes

fredley

@PrivatePansy UglifyCpp.js

quartata

please don't even joke about webpack

Private Pansy

@quartata I feel your pain so so much

fredley

14:05

I love webpack

badp

@fredley there I fix it for you

Private Pansy

There are projects where I've literally spent more time configuring Webpack than writing actual application code

fredley

thankp

StrixVaria

Pokémon Go trying to murder people #HurrcaneIrma https://t.co/1ENqNUPO9p

Tweeted by ReturntheHunter on September 10, 2017 at 2:51 PM

badp

@fredley mod abuse for good

fredley

14:06

@PrivatePansy Really? My webpack config is reasonably complex, given we're building inline web workers and stuffing them in the bundle, but it didn't take too long to get it working

Kevin van der Velden

@badp citation-needed

badp

you can quote me

I'm the authority on mod abuse

fredley

@StrixVaria All those PoGo players will be super swole from playing PoGo though so they won't blow away

Private Pansy

@fredley It was a single man project, so there's that. It's probably less painful if you're working in a team because it only has to be done once.

Yuuki

@StrixVaria PoGo has Lugia now, right?

Private Pansy

14:08

And you can push the work to someone else

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden That mostly sounds like the in chat part is too much for you.

Private Pansy

Also the documentation is not very good.

badp

thankley

Private Pansy

Also things just randomly break for no reason when you upgrade stuff, which happens quite frequently

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum note that I used the phrase "I am not that insane"

quartata

14:10

also it's a cruel reminder of how many screwdrivers your code is stacked upon

babel, uglify, npm, babel 2, babel 2: episode 1...

Private Pansy

I fondly remember Webpack 3, which promised to not break anything except plugins. Because Webpack is totally useful without plugins.

quartata

I use Node for almost nothing now and yet every 6 months I find out I've installed like 500 modules and have to clean out my node_modules directory

fredley

@PrivatePansy I am in a single-man company :-)

Nzall

'Which one?' 'I dunno, it's your house. Just check each object.' 'Check it for *what*?' 'Whether it looks like it might have touched a paper towel at some point and then forgotten to let go.' '...' 'You can also Google to learn how to check which things are using which resources.' 'You know, I'll just leave the towel there and try again tomorrow.'

5

fredley

SO is my SO though

Yuuki

14:15

> Man tries to burn EU flag but it won’t burn because it meets EU regulations on flammable materials.

quartata

toasted

badp

currently happening around me, a disquisition on whether or not it is snowing

Yuuki

Question, if a flammable material doesn't burn, then it's no longer a flammable material right?

badp

(current outside temperature: 14°C)

Yuuki

Therefore, it wouldn't have to follow EU regulations on flammable materials because it's not a flammable material, right?

Kevin van der Velden

14:19

@badp it can snow when the air temperature at ground level is above 0. But yeah it's probably not snowing

badp

@Yuuki is this why we have people in the UK thinking the EU regulates banana curvature

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I've run into a bit of a snag when completing the Trial Mode. Stage 91 is a single Magick Pot, with random spawns of Hecteyes in the arena. The Magick Pot clamors for an Elixer, however it seems to wear off before I can kill it, leading to dismay and a very strong, angry Magick Pot. The constant ...

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Memor-X

> it's just typical isn't it. you make a video you think is really good, your work's done, you think it's in the bag and then someone decides to be racist

Private Pansy

@Nzall You can also clear out any object that's using the paper towel by burning the house down and building a new one from scratch

Memor-X

i'm still laughing at that

Private Pansy

14:20

This is likely the safest option

Unionhawk

We are pretty sure the video was made by a remain voter though because why would you post failing to burn a flag if you were a leave voter

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Livestream?

Unionhawk

This seems like the only "it was a leave voter" explanation

I mean either way who cares it's dumb anyway

"idiot self-owns on line either on purpose or on a livestream" is like a daily occurance

although the video is great

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Yes, not insane enough to do it in chat, insane enough to do it.

Yuuki

14:38

That's interesting.

Rainfall levels in Houston before, during and, after Harvey.

Yuuki

14:51

Also, there's been no rain since Harvey. Which is very good for recovery efforts but apparently the soils are starting to dry up.

user15026

But have you ever seen a fish being petted https://t.co/kJJu7I6znG

Tweeted by AnimalsGalore on September 11, 2017 at 2:37 PM

user15026

@Yuuki hopefully you get some rain to help that if it's needed but not enough it stops recovery.

Avery

@Ash heey we used to have some of those orange fishes

user15026

@Avery did you pet them? :p

user15026

Okay, time to put pants on so I can have dentist-freezing-my-face happy funtimes. (happy funtimes not included)

MBraedley

14:54

My thermos is awesome because it keeps my coffee nice and warm all morning long. I mention this, because 3 hours later, my coffee is still too hot to drink.

badp

@Yuuki sigh

user15026

@TheMattbat999 picked up the MASH ultimate episode guide last night. It's actually kinda cool, has a lot of neat facts about the episodes I didn't know before.

badp

of course you'll have to start rationing water right after 50 inches of rain

user15026

@MBraedley that's impressive!

SaintWacko

@Ash That's adorable

I used to be the carp at a chinese buffet I went to a lot

MBraedley

14:59

@Yuuki This is a really good way of presenting this data. Also makes it pretty clear just how much ran was dropped in Houston.

Yuuki

@MBraedley Space City Weather has been very good.

Frank

We are now leaving Halifax. Great meeting you, @Wipqozn, @MBraedley!

Yuuki

> Sometime on Wednesday winds will shift to the southwest, and eventually the south, which will have the effect of bringing more typical September-like weather back to Houston. We can expect highs of around 90, or in the low 90s, and overnight low temperatures in the low 70s. Rain chances remain near zero.

Can't wait 'til December when temps start to move around 80.

MBraedley

@Frank Yeah, Saturday was fun. You'll have to come back some time.

Yuuki

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fredley

15:04

@Yuuki This graph needs more pixels

MBraedley

::sad trombones:: I don't seem to be able to reach imgur from the customer network.

Yuuki

@MBraedley Can you reach stack.imgur?

MBraedley

maybe?

Yuuki

Well, I guess so since you saw the Space City Weather graph.

MBraedley

yes

Yuuki

15:06

2

MBraedley

So I get half that reference...

Yuuki

The Waldo half?

MadMAxJr

Good morning bridge.

I started up the new XCom over the weekend. I do not like the assassins. :(

Yuuki

Basically, it's Lionel Richie dressed as Waldo. "Hello, is it me you're looking for?" is the opening line of his hit song 'Hello'.

Frank

@MBraedley I think its your turn.

Yuuki

15:11

Okay, not opening line but one of the most well-known parts.

'Hello' - Lionel Richie

Avery

@Yuuki (replying to starred post) well I guess if society was ruled by children's fashion designers, that child wouldn't need to feel jealous (also sigh yay for gatekeeping even to masculinity)

Unionhawk

-> 3 users moved to this is fine

MadMAxJr

So the new XCom expansion is mostly zombies, ninjas, horrible medical maladies, and new troops better than you in every way.

Wipqozn

@Frank Yeah it was great fun!

Yuuki

Ninja scurvy zombie cyborgs?

MadMAxJr

15:21

No pirates that I can see. Cyborg... sort-of.

MBraedley

@Yuuki Okay, I didn't recognize him at first.

SaintWacko

@Avery Geez

fredley

15:40

Yuuki

@fredley To be fair, those are circles not boxes.

badp

@fredley the arrows are not random

fredley

@badp I mean, they could be

Yuuki

Also, I'm not certain that that's a list either.

fredley

quartata

15:45

man I remember a time when Scott Adams wasn't completely insane

SaintWacko

@Yuuki I have a round box at home

MadMAxJr

When Scott got caught using sock puppet accounts to comment on his own postings, I gave up on reading anything by him

Frank

@MadMAxJr Wait, what?

MadMAxJr

I can't find a a quick article on it, but he's been found to sock-puppet his postings around the internet.

Yuuki

Quick article found.

MadMAxJr

15:54

There ya go

Unionhawk

Dillbert guy's also USER PREEMPTIVELY MOVED TO THIS IS FINE

quartata

basically

Yuuki

The Bayou Goo pie at House of Pies.

Frank

Huh. Okay, that's sketchy arguing tactics.

Yuuki

> Pecan crust, cream cheese, vanilla custard, chocolate bits, and whipped cream.

quartata

15:57

he actually made a comic talking about how "inaccurate" climate change models are and having Dilbert get called a science denier for questioning them

@Yuuki that is a lot of cream

Yuuki

Well, it's understandable. Some hurricane prediction models have a lot of random arrows pointing at a list of nice words in pretty boxes.

quartata

some models are just boxes painted black, you call that science???!?!?

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