The Bridge

BlueBarren

15:01

@Jutschge my friends now live in a different city. When we did live in the same city I lived with my parents and my parents are the nosy type so I didn't like having people over

Or rather I now live in a different city

Yuuki

Hmm... what's the most recently released skateboarding game?

MadMAxJr

Ah, precious coffee...

HazyKingdom

^ So much this.

@Yuuki Probably Tony Hawk 5 , which was a piece of trash.

@MadMAxJr I found this new indie coffee store this morning and it's like I found El Dorado.

fredley

@badp RIP Germnay

MadMAxJr

I have settled for 'Breakroom coffee of unknown origin'

user15026

15:14

@Yuuki that explains the lack of seed eating. Going to get them some meal worms?

Yuuki

Yeah.

I'm either going to grab them when I head home for lunch and put them in the fridge or I'll buy some on the way home after work.

Probably the latter, I have no clue if there are pet stores anywhere near work.

HazyKingdom

@MadMAxJr Who doesn't love mystery coffee? Especially if it comes out of a single serve packet.

Arperum

@badp I'm not seeing rain yet :(

HazyKingdom

@badp this is a really cool site. Do you know how real-time this is?

Never mind, I'm dumb.

Since we were talking about this earlier

MadMAxJr

@HazyKingdom It's a packet that makes a pot. Says 'STARBUCKS' on the side. Doesn't taste like starbucks.

Unionhawk

15:26

I mean Starbucks brewed coffee is different from a Starbucks espresso drink

HazyKingdom

@MadMAxJr Maybe they were scraping the bottom of the barrel with that packet. lol

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum rain and thunder confirmed for here

HazyKingdom

True, their coffee blends are actually a lot better than that espresso garbage.

MadMAxJr

Also, when the heck did an expansion to Darkest Dungeon come out? I nabbed Crimson Court last night.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp thunder is fun, also fun is it suddenly dropping 10 degrees

HazyKingdom

15:27

They have a new expan? Snazzy, I had no clue.

Wipqozn

MISSOURI VOTES TO LET EMPLOYERS FIRE PEOPLE WHO USE BIRTH CONTROL

> But SB 5 has another insidious purpose: to overturn a St. Louis ordinance that bans employers and landlords from discriminating against people on the basis of their reproductive health decisions. In other words, if SB 5 is passed, you could be evicted in the state of Missouri for having an abortion, using birth control, or becoming pregnant while unmarried.

HazyKingdom

@Wipqozn Because that makes sense.

Then again, if you've ever been to MO outside of St. Louis, you already know nothing in that state makes sense.

Wipqozn

Why are some parts of the USA so gosh darn backwards?

You have areas like, say, California which is all "Bigotry is wrong"

and then you have shit like this where it feels like everyone wishes it was still the 1940s where MEN WERE MEN ADN WOMEN WERE WOMEN

Fluttershy

@HazyKingdom Can confirm.

HazyKingdom

I like to think that the SE region of the country is a completely different country all together.

You can literally drive for hours without seeing any civilization except for yokels with shotguns.

^ these yokels also hold political positions.

Yuuki

15:33

@MadMAxJr I need to actually finish that game.

I also need to git gud.

MadMAxJr

Same.

Wipqozn

It just feels like this shit is unique to the states. Not bigotry or ass backwards laws, because that happens everywhere, but that there that large parts of the country are just so vastly different from one another.

MadMAxJr

I may need to start over. I want the achievement for having the tutorial duo survive.

BlueBarren

@Wipqozn how do employers even discover this information?

Wipqozn

I suppose that's why people say the states in the USA are more like mini-countries than states I guess?

MadMAxJr

15:35

Hi, I live in the midwest USA. You can drive here for upwards of six hours and not see things on the horizon.

Wipqozn

Because they do have a lot more independence than states from other countries from what I understand, and obviously cultural values are vastly different from state to state.

HazyKingdom

@Wipqozn That's kind of how America is though. Where I grew up (one of the largest cities in the country) , everyone was pretty dem side. You could drive 40 minutes to another state and everything was all flip flopped.

@MadMAxJr Corn Country.

Wipqozn

@HazyKingdom I know, I just find it so strange.

MadMAxJr

@HazyKingdom That word is almost exclusively Nebraska.

Wipqozn

Because it just seems to be a states thing.

Yuuki

15:36

@BlueBarren It's not that the employers are actively looking for this information.

MadMAxJr

Where I am is largely wheat.

HazyKingdom

@MadMAxJr Hey don't knock NE, I love that place. Omaha has stellar steak and beer ... and corn.

Yuuki

But if they ever do, they can fire you.

MadMAxJr

I drove through Nebraska in early spring. Never again. Manure/fertilizer smell for hours.

Wipqozn

Like Canada has cultural differences, sure, but I don't feel like if I stepped one province everyone suddenly the I'm going to be surrounded by bigots.

HazyKingdom

15:37

@Wipqozn If you read anything on the Pacific NW you'll find it's pretty much hippy country.

Yuuki

I have no clue why I occasionally confuse Omaha with Tulsa.

MadMAxJr

I've driven to one part of Canada. British Columbia. You have more trees than people there.

BlueBarren

@Yuuki I just feel like anyone who will actually fire you over birth control would probably be into witch hunting people for it (pardon the term witch hunting)

HazyKingdom

@MadMAxJr I have a lot of family there, including an uncle who lives on a gun range. Pretty used to that. Actually kind of dig it now that I think about it, means good crop.

MBraedley

@MadMAxJr That's pretty much the case for most of Canada

MadMAxJr

15:38

Kelowna is lovely, BTW. Thanks for that, Canada.

Yuuki

@BlueBarren Well yeah, I guess what I meant what was that employers aren't obligated to find out whether their employees are using birth control.

Or at least I don't think they are.

> Teenage boys wear skirts to school to protest against 'no shorts' policy

Wipqozn

@MadMAxJr I live in Halifax, and our city is very tree filled.

Yuuki

> "he had been told on Wednesday the skirt was too short and his legs too hairy. Some of the boys had taken this into account and bought razors to shave their legs. "

Wipqozn

Like I'm near the edge of the city, and there's like forest here

HazyKingdom

@Wipqozn Sounds amazing. D=

Jason Berkan

15:41

@Wipqozn BC is different. Also, every tree where I live has been planted by man. No natural trees!

Wipqozn

that's near near the harbour

that's from our downtown

HazyKingdom

damn, even the water doesn't look toxic.

fredley

@JasonBerkan BC is literally a rainforest

Wipqozn

This is also downtown

HazyKingdom

lol a community garden too ...

Wipqozn

15:44

@HazyKingdom that's not our community garden

that's the commons, which is basically just a giant open field for sports and skating

HazyKingdom

Nice!

Fine example of how we treat our resources.

Wipqozn

Jason Berkan

@fredley Yup. Good fruit too.

Wipqozn

That's the Public Gardens

HazyKingdom

I really question my citizenship status when I see stuff like this. Too bad there isn't a real great way for me to get a visa.

Wipqozn

15:46

fredley

@HazyKingdom wat

Wipqozn

Various shots from inside the gardens

user15026

@HazyKingdom this does not look real

Wipqozn

that's not even the largest green space in the city

HazyKingdom

@fredley Every year they dye a river green that causes an incredible amount of damage to what's left of wildlife. FOR ONE DAY.

user15026

15:47

@Wipqozn okay this is pretty.

HazyKingdom

@Wipqozn Where do I sign up?

BlueBarren

@Yuuki sometimes I wish it was culturely acceptable for men to wear skirt-like garbs. Like why can't tunics still be a thing? I know you could technically wear a kilt but I'm not Scottish

Wipqozn

there's also point pleasant park, which is 190 acres in size apparently

Yuuki

@HazyKingdom Yay, St. Patrick's Day.

Wipqozn

which is 0.78 square KM

that's the view of the park from the ocean

yes the park is right next to the ocean

Jason Berkan

15:49

All of Halifax is right next to the ocean.

Yuuki

So while katanas can split bullets, so can butter knives.

Wipqozn

Random old ass structure inside the park

@JasonBerkan I can see the ocean from my office desk. It's great.

fredley

Here is what any London park looks like if it is sunny outside:

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn :P

fredley

Followed by:

Wipqozn

15:51

fredley

The parks are quite nice when the weather's not though

I guess

Wipqozn

That's The Citadel, which is in the heart of downtown too

It's an old fortress

The cannons still work, actually, and are fired off everyday at...noon, I think?

Yuuki

@fredley Wait, London gets sun?

Wipqozn

cc @MBraedley to back me up on how pretty the city is

MBraedley

@Wipqozn Can confirm

fredley

15:52

@Yuuki It's been 30º+ for the past week

Everyone's losing their minds

Wipqozn

Okay I'm down bragging about how awesome our city is

MadMAxJr

@Wipqozn This looks like a Mario Kart track.

BlueBarren

@MadMAxJr reminds me of the prison race track from GTA Online

Mad Scientist

@fredley Just heard some thunder here that was disturbingly long and loud, maybe this is actually the end

BlueBarren

Well there's some thunderstorms going on in Southern Ontario as well

sounds like the end

Unionhawk

15:59

Tim Stone

"It's much better than Obamacare," Sen. Purdue. on new health bill. "Why?" we ask. "I have to go read it."

Tweeted by MattLaslo on June 22, 2017 at 3:04 PM

MadMAxJr

@Unionhawk Unfortunately this is blocked at my office.

HazyKingdom

@Unionhawk how cool would it be if this was a physical lcoation.

MadMAxJr

So IMAGE NOT FOUND is quite a timely reference! [GENERIC LAUGH #47]

Unionhawk

@MadMAxJr protip copy url paste into image upload in sandbox

Yuuki

16:01

@TimStone So what's the over and under on getting a Canadian citizenship?

Incidentally, anybody hiring devs up there?

Tim Stone

Police remove protesters, some in wheelchairs, from outside Mitch McConnell’s office https://t.co/dZrdUZGOBU

Tweeted by BraddJaffy on June 22, 2017 at 4:02 PM

MadMAxJr

Just beware of any Canadian sitting on something higher than you. Since a Canadian marksman just set the record for longest killshot.

Tim Stone

Keepin' it classy

MBraedley

@Yuuki Was about to link the company job board, but realized it was the internal job board. Suffice it to say, we are hiring devs. You may have trouble getting the security clearance though.

Yuuki

"I will keep any secret you want if you keep me out of Trump-merica."

MBraedley

16:10

You generally need to be at least a permanent resident, but sometimes you can get it on a work visa.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Lies. So much lies.

MadMAxJr

A lot of Canadian provinces also have rules that they have to check all local applicants before reviewing any foreign ones.

Arperum

And based on the rain forecast website the tiny rainarea has already passed.

MadMAxJr

Or at least that's what they told me when I tried to score work in BC.

MBraedley

@MadMAxJr That's a bit of an over simplification

If a business wants to sponsor a work visa for someone, they have to prove that there are no local applicants that are suitable for the job.

You can't discriminate against someone who is legally allowed to work, regardless if they are local or not.

BlueBarren

16:22

@MBraedley I feel like there will always be a suitable applicant locally. Sure there might be a better applicant somewhere else but that doesn't mean they can't find someone locally

Yuuki

So I'm implementing a re-ordering method and there's currently a big conditional that I'm using to check whether re-ordering makes sense (moving the first item in the collection to the first position doesn't make sense, for example).

I'm wondering if that conditional saves me time or not.

MBraedley

@BlueBarren There is actually a number of business here in Halifax that haven't been able to find suitable applicants, and it delayed their hiring of skilled refugees by months.

RedRiderX

So if chat is going HTTPS does that mean we can't post insecure memes anymore?

BlueBarren

@MBraedley Maybe I'm thinking of this from a southern Ontario tech industry perspective, there's always going to be someone else you can hire

Yuuki

@RedRiderX tl;dr can't post memes about myself

MBraedley

16:26

In particular, there was a bakery (or similar) that was looking for a pastry chef, found a Syrian refugee (IIRC), but couldn't hire him because of the work visa sponsorship requirements.

Yuuki

How does proving that there are no suitable local applicants work?

MadMAxJr

@MBraedley Still, I managed to get an up to date passport out of prepping for that job. It was a gig with one of disneys game development units (Specifically the group that bought Penguin Club, lock stock and barrel), to do data analytics of game trends and behaviors while working closely with developers.

I wanted that job sooooooo bad.

MBraedley

@Yuuki "We've had this job posting out for x months, and all the applicants we've received were not reasonable for these various reasons."

MadMAxJr

Despite having two company referrals, I was informed they had local candidates they wished to review.

MBraedley

@MadMAxJr Would you have needed a work visa?

BlueBarren

16:31

@Yuuki I would assume you'd just say none of the applicants are suitable and just prove you at least interviewed all of the people. I'm sure no one's is going to want to validate all the candidates plus there's a relative subjective nature to this process. I'm sure any employer could argue that a candidate isn't viable even if whoever checks the process thought they might be

MadMAxJr

@MBraedley Yes. Though I had shown that I was ready to do so.

That was ten years ago. I think things would have been very different for me had I got that.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: How do I stop the Maxamilliion tank?

So I am currently in chapter 6 and having issues with the Maxamillion tank. I can always get to the spot where he crashes through the base but I cannot stop him at this point. I'd appreciate any help or strategy to try.

valkyria-chronicles

MBraedley

@MadMAxJr But until you actually prove you're legally allowed to work for them, they have to consider locals first. And in order for you to be legally allowed to work for them, you need a work visa. And in order to get a work visa, you all but need a letter of offer.

GodEmperorDune

Quite possibly the best pair of T-Shirts i have ever seen https://t.co/40R3K6DmjA

Tweeted by MovesLikeZagger on June 22, 2017 at 9:12 AM

@Yuuki RIP r/meirl

MadMAxJr

@MBraedley It didn't work out, but it gave me hope when I really needed it.

Tim Stone

16:41

@Unionhawk I regret to inform you that Portman may weasel his way into a yes vote again

Unionhawk

God fucking dammit

Yuuki

I'm surprised that they aren't trying that thing where they take the bill, remove everything that was inside the bill, fill it with completely unrelated language, and pass it as that with the same name.

Tim Stone

Nothing new here, but holy crap this image

Feeds

Beedrill has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

Beedrill

How does this keep happening?

Every once in a while I check who the current room owners are and it's never @Wipqozn.

Unionhawk

16:55

I blame @badp, probably

Arperum

@Unionhawk You're being quick to blame, aren't you to blame?

BlueBarren

I'm sorry, what Destiny 2?

Unionhawk

@Arperum I don't remember doing that this time

Yuuki

@BlueBarren On the one hand, I'm not bothered by no recoil. On the other hand, I'm really concerned that a game designer thinks removing recoil will make a game harder.

Beedrill

@BlueBarren I see no issue here.

The PC and console versions of the game should probably not be identical because the control schemes are anything but.

I'm glad that they're at least considering what changes need to be made for the new control scheme.

Yuuki

17:00

I mean, I'm glad that they're considering changes between PC and console versions but I'm a little puzzled that removing recoil is the change they think they need to make.

BlueBarren

The only reason I question the removal of recoil is because how does a gun work without it?

Beedrill

@BlueBarren This literally doesn't matter at all.

They are making a game, not a realistic shooting simulator.

@Yuuki This is a more interesting concern.

Yuuki

It's like saying "we know that controllers have a more difficult time with twitch aiming than PC so we decided to remove aiming for PC, just hold the fire button and you'll hit your target".

BlueBarren

But there's certain elements of realism you don't want to remove

Beedrill

@BlueBarren Gameplay > Realism always

BlueBarren

17:01

well yeah

Yuuki

@BlueBarren High-tech stock absorbs the kinetic energy from the recoil to recharge your shields.

Beedrill

@Yuuki Yeah that is strange. I am trying to think of what PC games I know of that have recoil though.

A lot of them, instead, have spread.

BlueBarren

CS has recoil

Beedrill

Because with recoil on PC you would constantly have to aim adjust.

BlueBarren

the negev or p90 are great examples

Beedrill

17:02

Which is a little bit more annoying to do than with a joystick where you can hold a static joystick position to aim adjust.

Maybe they're going to use spread instead of recoil, and the article is just poorly worded.

Steam Summer Sale is live

6

GodEmperorDune

@Beedrill RIP my wallet

Yuuki

Most milsims like CoD and Battlefield have recoil, I think, but they're also on console.

SaintWacko

> Sorry

The Steam Store is experiencing some heavy load right now. Please try again later.

Unionhawk

@TimStone I hate and love that actblue has my credit card on file lol

Beedrill

@Yuuki I haven't played an FPS with recoil on PC in a while, but I also haven't played any military shooters on PC in a while either.

SaintWacko

17:07

> An error occurred while processing your request.
Reference #236.40fd717.1498151217.10302465

This is fun

GodEmperorDune

hue

Beedrill

Looks like there may be some issues with the discounts, since Hollow Knight is a "highlighted deal" and has 0% off.

Unionhawk

And I just hit a link in an email and it's just like "hi Evan, you're all set, pick an amount and we'll charge it to the card ending in xxxx"

Beedrill

I'll give it a few minutes.

Arperum

@SaintWacko I guess I'll go swordfighting before looking :p

Beedrill

17:11

You would think that they would know to spin up more servers or whatever when the Steam sale starts.

Unionhawk

sudo make_it_work_dammit

Beedrill

Hollow Knight is under $10

GodEmperorDune

trump doesn't have tapes of comey conversations, despite claiming to have them a month ago

Unionhawk

I'm glad this reality show reveal happened

NEXT TIME ON "THE PRESIDENT"

IS THE PEE TAPE REAL? MAYBE WHO KNOWS FIND OUT ON THE NEXT EPISODE

GodEmperorDune

awfully convenient of him to drop a tape related bombshell to distract from the clusterfuck of a senate health care bill

Unionhawk

17:16

Besides there are more important tapes going on here

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk cc @ashleyfeinberg

Unionhawk

She's off gizmodo Special Projects and on wired now but I'm sure she'd find a way to put pee tape in wired

But it wouldn't be as good as it would have been if the child of Gawker that somehow lived did it

GodEmperorDune

nah, the pee tape is a natural fit for gizmodo

Unionhawk

Yeah that's why it'd be less good on wired

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

Avery asked me to do an ad for The Bridge's Child's Play charity marathon... Here's what I have now:

BlueBarren

17:24

@noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ maybe you should use the word "terminal" instead of "deadly"

or fatal

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

@BlueBarren hmmm.... yup I'll do that

Beedrill

I would also lessen the severity of "few moments".

BlueBarren

deadly just seems like a rather aggressive word. Although terminal illnesses are aggressive...

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

yup

SaintWacko

@Beedrill Yeah, I'll second that

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

17:25

@Beedrill how would I word that?

Beedrill

It just seems wildly understated.

"a little bit more enjoyable" for "a few moments" is such a dire and dismal feeling.

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

I tried decreasing the font size for #1 to fit all on one line, but you'd need to reduce it too much

Beedrill

And I get that it really is that because children with terminal illnesses is a depressing topic.

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

@Beedrill it's kind of a pity cry "hey you can make their lives a little better why not"

Beedrill

But you're not really selling the benefits of the charity by drawing out that quality so much.

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

17:27

I get it, but help wording it?

Beedrill

I'm thinking.

Ronan

Maybe check out their website, they have a bunch of descriptions of what they do.

Beedrill

> Since 2003, we’ve set up and organized Child’s Play, a game industry charity dedicated to improving the lives of children with toys and games in our network of over 100 hospitals worldwide. Over the years, you as a community have answered the call and come together to raise millions of dollars.

Here's one quote from their website.

Because I had the same idea as @Ronan

Ronan

I've been robbed!

noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ

if you need help with synonyms, have this, it's the greatest thesaurus on the planet (I'm serious, it's 5x better than any other thesaurus. It's like Google vs. AltaVista): onelook.com/reverse-dictionary.shtml

The size of the footer and main text are all done according to the golden ratio

MBraedley

17:31

Oh, Oracle, why do you have to be such a pain in the ass?

(Although, technically, it was missing folders and bad permissions that were the root cause.)

BlueBarren

Why is it so hard to think of the wording for that? You want to be realistic with your message but you also don't want to be morbid

Beedrill

@BlueBarren Yeah it's hard.

Ronan

I think "Child’s Play, a game industry charity dedicated to improving the lives of children with toys and games in our network of over 100 hospitals worldwide" is a fine description to use.

That's fine as in good, not okay by the way.

Beedrill

Yeah, and they probably went through more iterations than we'll have time to to get there.

MBraedley

"Child's Play gives toys, books, and games to children's hospitals around the world." KISS

BlueBarren

17:38

@Beedrill like you want all of a child's moments to be enjoyable, you don't want to think about only a few of their moments or their last moments

Lazers 2.0

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Q: I can't find the name of a mysterious analysis tool

I was strolling by the internet and found this video. In it, the user manipulates multiple code traits to explore the secrets of much beloved game Dark Souls (a big fan over here); these so-called "secrets" are not buried in unused file of game code, they are rather fragments of alpha stages of t...

dark-souls cheats

MadMAxJr

Child's Play makes hospitals suck less for kids.

Beedrill

@Lazers2.0 This is totally off topic, right?

"Identify this unknown software that is related to a game."

DanmakuGrazer

If game identification is on-topic, is mod identification on-topic as well?

Unionhawk

Uh

Beedrill

17:44

@DanmakuGrazer No, you can't assume that.

Game rec is off topic and some mod rec stuff is on topic (regretfully).

DanmakuGrazer

Game rec is not on topic

And not what I was talking about

Beedrill

I was demonstrating that your logical leap is flawed with an example of where an analogous leap would get you to an incorrect conclusion.

DanmakuGrazer

I didn't make any logical leap

Beedrill

Your conclusion may be right, but the logic you used to get there is not.

BlueBarren

Well now I'm just confused

MadMAxJr

17:46

Well he's about to provide a picture to supplement his reference.

Beedrill

@MadMAxJr That doesn't change anything, TBH.

He's asking for a non-game identification with an artifact.

Whether it's video or image doesn't materially change the on-topic-ness of the question.

MadMAxJr

Huh. Looks like some kinda debug console.

.... Someone posted a comment as an answer and it's a link-only reply, on the recent Valkyria Chronicles question.

DanmakuGrazer

So flag it

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