infact Re;Birth seemed more like the first game using Mk. II's system because it even used most of it's soundtrack and they dumped the combo making system

@badp i got vs Zombies because it's Lady Blanc's game (though she had to share the title with Neptune). even if it plays bad i will push through for Lady Blanc's sake

@Memor-X the original game is D R E A D F U L

@Memor-X Reb2 uses the V battle system afaik so...

whereas Reb3 is closer to mk2's.

Reb1 is probably also kinda like V's?

also you can join SirTapTap's discord to have him rehash the part where he tears apart the dialogue in vs Zombie, and especially Neptune for stealing the spotlight so much

@badp well yeh, it was grindy especially when it came to getting the Legendary Weapons but i liked the combo making system and hearing Lady White Heart swear her head off for over a minute as she whales on them.

but Re;Birth 1 was still better because the story was more fleshed out especially with Arfoire's role and her past and all the Doki Doki Shoujo Ai/Yuri moments between IF and Vert (which is only barely hinted on in the original game. no Very hidng away her Hand Warmers and using IF instead or that elevator part where IF dies in paradise)

@badp i kinda figure Nepture would do that which is why i hope HyperTagmenion isn't really Lady Blanc's Game and that we see a proper one before Vert's comes out

though that assume Neptune didn't steal spotlights in Noire's game

@Memor-X yeah, Vert x If is a Reb1-only thing. And so is Neptune's pudding obsession in the English localization, thankfully

@badp yeh, from what i hear Neptune is made out to be more deranged in the english dub so if you want real Neptune you'd play it with the japanese dubs

and i have no problem with Vert x IF being Be;Birth only. in later games Vert has Chika

@Memor-X spoiler alert, Chika is a Reb2/mk2 only charcter

i'm no longer convinced you guys are speaking english

@Memor-X actually in the localization they toned down a lot of the really annoying parts of the characters

@badp aren't most of the Oracles except for Histoire?

Compa, Neptune and the main protagonist of V are unbearable to listen to in Japanese

@Memor-X they kinda discard oracles as a thing, the only one that survives somewhat is Financier.

@badp main protagonist of V? isn't that still Neptune or are you talking about Pulita

@Memor-X Plutia.

@badp i images Plutia's HDD, Iris Heart, would get toned down alot since her appearance is obviously a dominatrix yet the games with her in it don't get R Ratings in Australia

If Iris Heart got toned down, it can't have been by much

no idea how bad it was in Japanese

they still left in the part where she traumatizes a very clearly child version of Iffy

@badp Financier as in Lady Blanc's attendant from the Original/Re;Birth? she disappeared in Mk. II/Re;Birth 2. and Re;Birth 2, 3 and VII are supposed to be in the same Hyperdimension

after all the second game has Rom and Ram being licked whole by a literal pedophile robot (the tongue is several times larger than each, but)

@Memor-X not quite

V/Reb3 almost entirely takes place in not-Hyperdimension.

About two thirds of V2 also take place in not-Hyperdimension.

also V2 features almost none of the plot elements of V/Reb3

or rather, maybe it does, but it doesn't follow V's true ending.

Spoiler alert.

@badp urrg. CFW.Trick is the worse out of the 4 Felons. CFW.Judge only is better because he isn't a fucken pervert.

CFW.Brave and CFW.Magic tie for first but that's only because of the possible Linda x CFW.Magic which would knock CFW.Brave from top spot if it was confrimed

It's more LoZ rules than actual sequels with an overarching plot

Don't expect any returning character other than the 8 main goddesses

of course I'd love to be proven wrong by future games.

I'm not particularly a fan of CH coming up with characters and then using them just as sidegame fodder

@badp from what i recall V is still set in the 2nd Hyperdimension but most of it is set in an alternate version of the world that Neptune ends up in. V2 the center universe is set in the 2nd Hyperdimension but again Neptune ends up in alternate version of the world's future and the main bad guy is hiding out in another one

hmmm... no

there's just a bunch of different concurrent dimensions, and (some of) the cast jumps through them

Wibble

the guy i'm on with

he worked last night til 6am~

4 Goddesses Online is supposed to be set in the 2nd Hyperdimension but where the CPUs are in the 4 Goddess Online game Vert plays

he was at his new jobs induction at 8am this morning

He was back here at 10:30pm

atleast from my understanding. i havn't played past Re;Birth 2 yet (still got to grind the Shares for the other National Endings before going for the True/Human and Sword endings)

@Memor-X no idea about it, I've looked a little bit of a stream but it looks extremely light on plot

and probably shouldn't be considered a main series game

Woo! Proper PSI for my airbrush makes a big difference for black gloss.

@Memor-X do not leave the sword ending for last.

@O

Hi Frank

@djsmiley2k Yo

whatup

do not think of dimensions as alternative timelines in the term of ingame events

@badp from what i read it's an Offline MMO like how .hack was so expect MMO like questing

think of dimensions as alternative timelines of the real life industry events after which the ingame characters and story are modeled

@badp why?

@Memor-X you don't want that to be the aftertaste you're left with.

also, here's SirTapTap's discord if you care for additional discussion with additional people that care about the topic and have played more of the series that I have.

Sigh

SirTapTap is also an SE mod so you can expect roughly the same standards of chat there as here.

can someone build a huge workshop in my back garden for me?

and then buy me a lathe and some other awesome stuff like a drill press, hm

@badp oh that. i thought the requirements get to be a bitch to do after # New Game +'s. i skimmed what it generally is and it's more of a bad end and i'm just after the Trophy (plan to finish with the True End). but that's the Conquest Ending which i include as a Sword Ending because the Holy Sword Ending is the same requirement + Lily Ranks. is the Holy Sword Ending just as bad?

the holy sword ending is the uplifting alternative to the series of events in the conquest ending.

@badp right so get Conquest first so i can then replace it with Holy Sword in my memories

perhaps.

if you're playing for the achievements you have to rather be careful about the sequence of playthroughs and what dungeons are available in which playthrough and which items only become available in NG+/NG++/NG+++ or which items are only available in a specific ending

it's really kinda stupid and definitely the worst part about Reb2.

you definitely are meant to do all of the endings on the same game file, one after the other.

and I don't know what the proper or optimal order is.

@djsmiley2k Painting!

!!

I wish I could do that too

but again, time, money, etc

Why do I wish i could do 999 different things!

heh

I need to be old and retired already, then maybe I'd have a chance to do some stuff

@badp from my understanding the only item/dungeon change is in the True End where you have more Chapters. most endings is just having Shares and Lily Ranks before the final battle and not meeting the requirements for the True End. Sword Endings is just seeing Chipper Events and accepting a sword later on

didn't think the items in common route dungeons change after each new game +

@Memor-X True End has two extra chapters and Conquest/Holy Sword has an additional, different chapter or maybe two, I forget

the human/maker/country ends or whatever are more or less the same, just different cutscenes

@badp well i only did the True End in Mk. II so i knew about the extra chapters in the True Route but if Sword Endings have different dungeons i'll only grind them enough to get what i need for the Oracles plans (then again i already unlocked Mina so Team Lowee is complete anyway). there's more than enough plans to get that Trophy in the True Route

It's been a long while but some of the plans definitely require stuff that you can only get in either of the exclusive chapters

there's a bunch of horrible spreadsheets out there on the topic

I wonder how mad would /r/pcmr would get at me if I carried my ssd on my pocket

very little?

I think that it could be marked as NSFPCMR

shit it's 20 minutes to 2am

and I haven't played any videogames :C

^ ok i have Hype. Darksides 2 was a great game

warning Jim Fucken Sterling Son video

looks like you get to play as the Fury

@Avery NSFMR*

@SaintWacko ah, yup