The Bridge

Yuuki

19:01

So when existing documentation doesn't match the implementation, should you change the documentation or the implementation?

Probably documentation, right?

BlueBarren

@Yuuki whichever is easier

Yuuki

@BlueBarren In my case (function parameters), I'm thinking documentation because changing the implementation to match would probably also break some user functionality.

BlueBarren

then you have your answer

Case closed

John

Wait since when do people here play Path of Exile?

Lazers 2.0

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Q: How are 'flavored' honeys decided and what are their worth?

Sparked by this question, and not being able to get a super definitive answer on google, I wanted to ask about honey worth/flavor determination. I know honey is not the most profitable thing on a farm. But aesthetics. I want to know which flowers per season provide the best worth to honey. Whe...

stardew-valley

GodEmperorDune

19:17

@John i've seen @Wipqozn play it on steam a few times

John

>9.7 hours on record

Oh I guess he just picked it up

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki automated tests should catch that

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, but I'd rather not refuctor this code any more than I already have.

It's already pretty fuct.

Wipqozn

@John I actually played it when it first launch back on beta, but only until level of 5. Way back nesting 2011/2012

John

@Wipqozn Doesn't it only take like 10 minutes to get to level 5?

I'm not sure that counts

GodEmperorDune

19:22

@Yuuki but you have automated tests, right?

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Yes.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki then refuctoring isn't so bad

Yuuki

They'll pick up wherever I break the code with the changes and then I'll have to refactor the code that broke to make it match the new implementation. Probably a better idea just to tidy up the documentation.

GodEmperorDune

is talking to a senior dev or product owner an option? to see which of the two is "correct"?

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, I guess I should do that.

Wipqozn

19:32

@John it took a bit longer that early on, but yeah, I didn't play much.

Lazers 2.0

2

Q: Will new operators always cost 25,000 renown?

Many operators cost 500 renown, but some operators costs 25,000 renown. Is this permanent or just until they are no longer new?

first-person-shooter rainbow-6-siege

0

Q: Does the game save track records?

I haven't found record times for individual tracks anywhere. Other rally games, such as Richard Burns Rally, generally have this feature.

dirt-rally

Arperum

@John I've played up to the point of beating a single map or something.

in the current (or previous league, not sure if it still going on)

SaintWacko

I haven't played anything but early game since the game first came out

John

It feels to me like you have to play it a lot or it gets hard to get back into very quickly

What with the full spec resets every 3 months

More than once I've gone into a map only to realize I had 70+ unallocated skill points

because it reset again

Arperum

I tend to start a new character in a new league anyway, so no problem with resetted passive tree.

Yuuki

19:47

Oh, Texas is passing bathroom legislation again?

Ugh.

Sidestepping the whole transgender rights thing, I'm just annoyed that this is what they're wasting their time on.

djsmiley2k

bathrooms, how do they work?!

Yuuki

The Texas legislature is not like most state legislatures, they do not meet very often.

They meet in one 140-day session every two years.

djsmiley2k

/me doesn't get it

John

@Arperum And then you have to finish basically the entire game in 3 months and if you don't play that much you get to start over with a new character in the next league...

I can't tell you how many times I've done normal+half of cruel

Yuuki

And there are much bigger and more immediate problems to be worried about.

John

19:50

Once in a while I'd like to get to Atziri

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki i worked with a Texan who was proud of that fact

Arperum

@John That will be over somewhere this year :) they are getting rid of cruel and merciless too I think. Just 5 extra acts added in content.

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune I wouldn't care so much about the scheduling if they actually did important and substantive things with that schedule.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki like dismantling the social safety net and defunding organizations supported by political opponents

John

@Arperum I knew they planned on replacing other difficulties with more acts like they did with the 4th difficulty when Act 3 came along, but 5 acts this year? That's the best thing I've heard all day

Yuuki

19:52

3

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki don't worry, Betsy DeVos will fix the Texas schools

badp

current GOP status

Arperum

@John There never was a fourth difficulty?

Or that was so early I can't remember.

John

Long time ago

Removed in Jan 2013

Arperum

Ah

Well, cruel and merciless are up to be removed with the 3.0 expansion

John

19:57

:D

I'm hyped for that

I wonder how I missed the emails

Unless they stopped doing those

I'm glad to see their continuing to add more acts

I wondered how they were going to do that after it felt like Act 4 killed off every potential villain in the game

Arperum

Path of Exile 3.0 Will Have 10 ACTS! - A Preview of Act 6, Yes... Act SIX

►

some random video I found

John

@Arperum Oooooooh this is amazing

and also full of spoilers, it seems

I'm not sure if I actually wanna finish it

Arperum

Yea, but it'll be fun :)

John

yeah :D

Tim Stone

Paul Ryan tours Mexican border on horseback http://hill.cm/EQLdTRg https://t.co/aOJ1Bn4mBN

Tweeted by thehill on February 22, 2017 at 8:06 PM

GodEmperorDune

20:07

@TimStone but he has his shirt on. Trump will stick with Vlad

Arperum

@John We could maybe play thorugh together or something?

John

@Arperum yeah add me: JohnTheGreen

Do I have you on Steam?

Arperum

Don't think so.

John

Well it's the same there, but with spaces

Arperum

Added you on steam.

badp

20:10

dear web devloper community

sometimes I want to have things at a larger font size than 14px

I know everything is terrible, but if you could, please stop hardcoding font sizes

GodEmperorDune

@badp nope

badp

@GodEmperorDune but thou must.

GodEmperorDune

@badp it's too late

Arperum

I can't add you in game since path of exile was part of the list of games that steam purged when I tried to remove a single one.

John

@Arperum Oh....well that's fun

I can't play literally this moment anyway

So we can get that sorted out later

Arperum

20:13

@John Yea, it purged every game that was installed on my d-drive when I tried to uninstall a single one.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Halo Wars 2: What types of multiplayer modes are there?

I am curious about the multiplayer game modes in Halo Wars 2. During the Beta, there was only one mode available and that was Blitz. I didn't really enjoy this new spin on a RTS game and now I am wondering what game modes are available before I purchase it. If there are no multiplayer modes tha...

halo-series

Yuuki

@badp There are font sizes larger than 14px?

badp

@Yuuki yes.

Yuuki

You're lying.

That's fake news.

badp

no u

Yuuki

20:16

@BADP CONFIRMED FAKE NEWS MEDIA ELITE

badp

I'm pretty elite.

GodEmperorDune

y u so fake news @brontp?

badp

no u

GodEmperorDune

they're good sizes @brentp

BlueBarren

Do I tell @Yuuki about the 72px master race?

badp

20:19

that moment when you cargocult a bunch of libraries and realize you have no idea what you're using, and what they used, and they probably used

and I'm left wondering

am I even using jqueryui

why do I have it.

GodEmperorDune

just remove it and see what breaks

badp

what does it even do.

GodEmperorDune

its for the ui

and jquery, so you know its good

StrixVaria

How to lose a constitutional democracy

2

badp

jqueryui.com/controlgroup is a car crash in slow motion

MBraedley

20:22

Holy shit, this is the big news that NASA teased earlier this week

badp

OH WOW NOW EVERYTHING IS FIXED FOREVER

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley wait does this mean the galaxy maps in mass effect are inaccurate?

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune Actually, we've known ME1 was inaccurate for a while for a selection of stars.

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley how i am supposed to suspend my disbelief now?

SaintWacko

@badp Really? It looks like car rental in slow motion

Sterno

20:25

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune I know, I've ruined the entire series for you

badp

@SaintWacko you must've never visited a car rental website

MBraedley

@Sterno It is a red dwarf, which are notorious for spewing life ending X-rays, so I wouldn't hold out too much hope for these planets.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Any good Oblivion battlemage class build?

I want to play in Oblivion with a battlemage. I always liked the idea of a mage who is also kinda a strong warrior, like a paladin or a crusader but more focused on magic skills instead of combat. Also because when I played Elder Scrolls Arena and Morrowind, during the class generation process (w...

oblivion

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley or they will be immune to x rays

perhaps x rays nourish them

djsmiley2k

20:28

yeah, never understood why we depended upon finding water, carbon and oxygen

as we have things which survive without those things in various combinations

GodEmperorDune

i mean we have those bacteria that go wild in ultrahot and ultra-acidic environments

MBraedley

@djsmiley2k Um, there's not much that can really survive and procreate without water. Basically every life form needs water at some point in its lifecycle.

djsmiley2k

we've got animals built from sulfer or something instea dof carbon

Mad Scientist

@GodEmperorDune there is not really a straightforward way for a lifeform to be resistant to very large amount of x-ray radiation except putting something in between yourself and the x-rays.

djsmiley2k

every known life form

Mad Scientist

20:30

so they might live under the surface, for example

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist can't they have lead skin or something like that?

djsmiley2k

which, if all life on the planet, came from a cell which existed in water is to be expected

StrixVaria

Or they've evolved x-ray shielding carapaces!

MBraedley

@djsmiley2k silicon based life is a theory.

djsmiley2k

dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/05/…

there we go

GodEmperorDune

20:30

oh man we need to ask so many worldbuilding questions

djsmiley2k

sulfer based life

StrixVaria

I'm jealous of our carapace-wielding intelligent neighbors already.

Mad Scientist

@GodEmperorDune Some kind of armor against the radiation probably could work. Of course this all depends on how much x-rays there are. Armor doesn't help if you're cooked alive in it by the x-rays

GodEmperorDune

@StrixVaria seriously

MBraedley

@djsmiley2k But there's no point searching for life that doesn't look at least something like the life we already know about; we wouldn't know what to look for.

GodEmperorDune

20:32

@MadScientist as i understand evolution, if x ray exposure is a thing in the environment, then evolution will select for ways to deal with that

djsmiley2k

So we shouldn't say.... search for arsnic too?

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/02/…

concidering NASA found arsnic based lifeforms...

Mad Scientist

I don't think anyone has come up yet with a way to create the kind of variety of molecules we suspect are needed for life based on anything other than carbon chemistry

GodEmperorDune

@djsmiley2k only with old lace

djsmiley2k

@GodEmperorDune that's why we don't die by going out side.

MBraedley

@djsmiley2k No, that's replacing oxygen in the primary solvent (hydrogen sulfide vs water).

GodEmperorDune

20:33

@MadScientist but we have a very limited sample size of one planet

djsmiley2k

the kind of radiation you get from uranium we've never gotten used to, as were never exposed to it during evolution

@MBraedley yes

so why do we demand water on the planets?

MBraedley

We are not oxygen based life, we are carbon based life. One theory is that silicon based life would use hydrogen sulfide as their primary solvent.

Mad Scientist

@GodEmperorDune there are things you can't select against. For example, you won't find any life that resembles life on earth that can survive 1000°C, while we know that some bacteria survive at 100°C

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist so then we get into "what is life if its unlike all the earth based life"?

MBraedley

@djsmiley2k There are serious barriers to the emergence of silicon based life, as some key chemical processes in carbon based life don't work as well (or can't work) for silicon.

GodEmperorDune

20:36

@MBraedley and there are no replacement chemical processes? this isn't some sort of carbon bias?

Mad Scientist

@GodEmperorDune We don't know other kinds of life, but we know chemistry reasonably well by now. Some conditions are too extreme and simply destroy any complex chemicals

MBraedley

@djsmiley2k Saying that it's an arsenic based life is wrong. It's still a carbon based life, but one that uses arsenic instead of phosphorous. Still uses hydrogen, oxygen (and therefore water), and nitrogen.

@GodEmperorDune For some of the processes, there is a replacement, but may take higher activation energies, or the reaction rates are significantly slower.

Avery

well this earns the award for "subreddit ad of the year"

https://s.ave.zone/5fa.png

Tim Stone

If these weren't real people that would be hilarious

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley higher activation energies would be present in a warmer environment right, or taking advantage of the high energy of something like x rays?

Yuuki

20:43

@Avery A Liefeld-proportioned chest without Liefeld-proportioned arms looks even weirder than with Liefeld-proportioned arms.

I didn't know that was possible.

Mad Scientist

@djsmiley2k that one was proven to be pretty bad science

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune No, x-rays wouldn't help here, just higher temperature environment. IIRC, the reaction rates were the real deal breakers

Even in high temperature environments.

(You also have the problem that higher temperatures are more likely to cause compounds to spontaneously decompose, which is kinda bad for life.)

Tim Stone

@Yuuki I like the part where his hair going super-saiyan somehow doesn't reveal the bald spot

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone also the hands are too big

Yuuki

Also, wasn't Goku anti-Russia? He did fight the Red Ribbon Army after all. /s

badp

20:55

Mod Abuse For Good

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Do overwatch settings stay the same if I buy ow on a new battle.net account?

If I bought overwatch on a new battle.net account, would all my settings/controls be the same on the new account? Or would I have to manually copy all the settings and controls onto my new account?

overwatch battle.net

Yuuki

Well, I guess that's one way to open a song.

Love of mine / Someday you will die

:|

GodEmperorDune

@badp what kind of mod are you?

badp

the best

but also terrible

because everything is terrible

and so am I

Yuuki

... is this song advocating suicide pacts?

I mean, the melody and all sounds nice but I'm gonna have to take a pass on the lyrics.

Sterno

20:59

Under certain circumstances, suicide pacts are advisable. Like certain zombie apocalypse scenarios

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno i think its better to have more than a pact, like some sort of squad

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune What are we, some kind of Romero's Day of the Dead?

Sterno

I don't know. Maybe being a zombie is cool

Yuuki

> Since we're letting our imaginations run wild, imagine if there were intelligent civilizations on each planet. They'd grow up being able to watch the others progress, making stories, myths, and legends about them. They'd have enormous motivation to get into space and eventually they would build rockets and visit each other, probably quite a long time after they had developed some kind of communication.

> How amazing to finally meet the races of people you'd been gazing up at for thousands of years. Would make for a great book/movie.

> Think the Nazca Lines. Entire cities and landscapes built to communicate and respond to those above.

badp

fify

Arperum

21:04

@MBraedley I like how the solar system is named after beer.

It isn't actually, but trappist is also beer, so whatever.

GodEmperorDune

i thought it was named after someone that made trap music

Yuuki

Or it was named by someone who didn't know how to spell "trapeze".

Arperum

> a star they named after the Trappist robotic telescope in the Chilean desert that first caught sight of the alien worlds

badp

The Josephus Problem - Numberphile

►

Sterno

Two teenage girls (13 and 14) were killed on a public hiking trail about an hour from my house and now my daughter WILL NEVER ALLOWED TO GO OUTSIDE EVER

GodEmperorDune

21:08

@Sterno was it clowns?

Arperum

And that telescope is mostly funded by Belgian things, there is no way the name of it was not made based on beer.

Sterno

@GodEmperorDune No

GodEmperorDune

@Arperum i heard they are making another project named SCOOTULUS or something like that... a cookie?

Sterno

> Investigators believe the girls met the suspect in a chance encounter or the person knew they were going to be there.

Well, that does seem to cover all the possibilities.

Wipqozn

@Sterno Yeah makes sense to me. damn.

GodEmperorDune

21:13

@Sterno that's pretty fuct

Arperum

@GodEmperorDune That name doesn't ring a bell.

GodEmperorDune

@Arperum oops, SPECULOOS

Arperum

@GodEmperorDune Yes, mostly eaten around saint-nicolas period (early december). cc @KevinvanderVelden

Kevin van der Velden

@GodEmperorDune speculaas*

Sterno

Then there was the random shooting death of an old 82-year old guy in his driveway 10 minutes from my house. THEY'RE ZEROING IN

GodEmperorDune

21:17

@KevinvanderVelden i just went with the name from the washington post story, I dunno if its spelled properly

Kevin van der Velden

I 'unno

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Speculoos is also correct.

Fluttershy

@Sterno Supposedly they have the voice of the person who did it, at least? So hopefully they find the person soon. :/

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Do abilities have a priority ranking?

While in the training tower, I came across an odd situation involving my Hector and the opponent's Niles. As this is the training tower, and enemy Heroes can have a large assortment of abilities they do not normally have when the player owns them, this Niles had a level 3 Axebreaker ability. Le...

fire-emblem-heroes

0

Q: Fifa 17 forcing me to create EA account

I've just started using Xbox one, trying to get Fifa 17 going from disc. It seems like I have to create an "EA account" to be able to start the game. Is there any way around it? I thought offline playing would be possible, I guess I was wrong. For a novice, it seems awfully hard to understand...

xbox-one fifa-17

Kevin van der Velden

Different things apparently

Arperum

21:18

Possibly.

Kevin van der Velden

Speculaas is the commonly eaten thing though

Yuuki

@badp So the key to surviving is to be good at throwing your sword like a boomerang.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki that's a classic sword technique, iirc

Memor-X

@MBraedley i heard about it this morning. now when are we going to actually go there because waiting for alien life of these planets to come to us and give up the tech ain't happening any time soon

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X more than 40 years, for sure

Arperum

21:33

cc @Wipqozn

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How do I complete rift level 2 and unlock the shop?

I don't know how to complete rift level 2. I want to unlock the shop, but I can't. What do I need to do?

burrito-bison-launcha

Wipqozn

@Arperum wait, did you cook me into bread and feed me to your people!??!

Arperum

@Wipqozn No, you are cooking weird bread.

Wipqozn

Oh okay

So long as you're not making Soylent Wipqozn

@Arperum Yeah, it's really stupid. They're province wide exams, and as far as I can tell, all the teachers think they're implemented in a really stupid fashion.

Arperum

21:50

@Wipqozn I'll leave that to whatever goblins decide to invade and murder all of my gnomes.

Wipqozn

@Arperum :(

Man you're making me want to play Dwarf Fortress

only to give up since the learnign curve and UI are a pain

and then think mayeb I should just play gnomeria, but then realize that it's nt as deep as dwarf fortress so I should just play that, so I try it again adn then QQ

Yuuki

Wipqozn

Maybe I'll just watch shitty anime instead

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn you could also correct your vast swaths of typos littered throughout chat

Wipqozn

@GodEmperorDune Nonsense

GodEmperorDune

21:52

@Yuuki hue

Wipqozn

I'd never destroy that meme

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn its not on the meta thread, therefore its not a meme

fredley

@Wipqozn You should play factorio

GodEmperorDune

@fredley i noticed you've been playing it a lot recently, working on drifters?

fredley

@GodEmperorDune Trying out a few different mods

I think I have a cracktorio problem

Arperum

21:54

@Wipqozn Gnomoria is sorta like that, except looking better and minus the tantrums and probably quite a bit of the depth of dwarf fortress.

GodEmperorDune

yeah that's why i don't start once i stop for a while

fredley

@GodEmperorDune ...

GodEmperorDune

otherwise it's like "let's just clear out this nest... oh reinforcements came from there so i should take that out too..." and i'm just spiraling out burning the map up

and then i have to be up for work in like an hour

Wipqozn

@fredley After shitty anime I plan to watch you all die in FTL

Avery

what have steam become

GodEmperorDune

21:57

@Avery i guess they are leaning into @badp style harem games

Avery

@GodEmperorDune I guess

fredley

@Avery based on your play history?

GodEmperorDune

@Avery i'm more curious how it got the "adventure" tag

fredley

based on @badp's play history?

Avery

@fredley not logged in

badp

22:06

@GodEmperorDune you'rrrrrrrr just jelly your sense of taste isn't as sophisticated as mine

(Well Actually™, cats can't taste sweet)

GodEmperorDune

@badp i'm not a cat

i'm not @frrrrrrrrrrrredley

Yuuki

... don't tell your mother.

2

Tim Stone

Ooooouch

I was like "That's not too bad" and then BAM

user15026

@Yuuki ooooh man. I didn't think it was too bad, then the last 2 seconds happens

badp

@GodEmperorDune you can ask @furdley to fix that fur you, nyaa

GodEmperorDune

22:14

@Yuuki hue

Memor-X

@Avery not like those mean anything. some of the Visual Novels released on Steam have separate +18 restoration patches hosted elsewhere for free, like Love Ribbon, Highway Blossoms and Seinarukana -The Spirit of Eternity Sword 2- and i don't believe Highway Blossoms has any nudity pre-restoration with the exception to maybe this

GodEmperorDune

i do not believe the image necessary to convey your point, but maybe that's just me

Frank

@Memor-X That's getting awfully close to NSFW.

Dragonrage

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage wut

at least they apologized but still

Dragonrage

22:18

school is different than when i was a kid

GodEmperorDune

yeah if i kicked sarah in the face, she would probably have beat me up

Sterno

> If you guys read this - and I know you don't - can you just cancel the rest of my order? Keep my money. I don't give a shit. Just stop checking in with me every six months with these pathetic emails.

Arperum

Second honey badger attacked. @ash and @Unionhawk will probably bleed to death :( Because still not possible to make bandages. Working on it though, but they'll probably die.

Sterno

When backers leave comments like that, that's a pretty clear sign your Kickstarter has failed.

Arperum

@Yuuki did kill the honey badger.

Frank

22:20

@Sterno Generally when the developers stop responding, it's failed.

GodEmperorDune

@Arperum RIP @ash, lol @uni

Frank

Or it fails when they forget they're two years behind, and they throw it all out and start over.

Arperum

@GodEmperorDune Not yet, but they are bleeding.

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno which kickstarter is that?

Sterno

@Frank Oh, they send out updates every 3-6 months. I've been reading them. They're awesome. The most recent is "We'll try to get you everything by the end of 2017". This is a kickstarter slated to be out by December 2013. Hell, in January 2015 they said "We plan to have everything out by the end of the year."

@GodEmperorDune kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/…

GodEmperorDune

22:22

> Update #196

yeaaaah

Sterno

Then they use the rest of their updates to try to push their RPG books

> At this point I don't even care. I literally forgot about this kickstarter and was happier for it. Tell you what - don't send out another update. If a package shows up at my door with stuff from you guys, cool. If it doesn't, just let me forget about you.
As I've said before I'll never buy one of your products or give you money in any way. This kickstarter was a sham and a bad joke.

Frank

I'm still irked about Star Command for PC.

Sterno

And then there's this guy

Literally had 6 undelivered kickstarter projects at once, in a one year span

Kickstarter isn't even supposed to allow that

Dude literally sounded like Trump when making his promises, too

GodEmperorDune

three tv pilots?! do they not understand how much work goes into a tv pilot?

Arperum

Aaaand @Unionhawk bled to death while building a wall.

After having his arm and leg bleeding out because of a badger attack.

Frank

22:29

So there's a neat house for sale.

Used to be a church. So it's got stained glass windows and a whole house sound system.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Good read, thanks for sharing

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn is that your game plan for a free and sovereign nova scotia?

Wipqozn

@MBraedley I know! It's crazy! We were talking about it in the office today. It's nuts. I can't wait for the James Webb to launch so we can get more data.

@GodEmperorDune Yes

Sterno

These failed kickstarters churn out the "well, it's moving slow, but we're working!" updates every few months to get around having to refund for failed delivery

@GodEmperorDune they were all filmed too. He just didn't complete the editing. Or pay some of the actors

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno my favorite is the game studios that are like "uhhhh we ran out of money and are doing commerical work to pay the bills and we'll do the kickstarter stuff later"

Sterno

22:32

On one he claimed it was complete and he was shipping out 20 DVDs a day. No one ever received any. 4 months later he said he still had some editing to do. A month after that he said the hard drive was corrupted but could be kind of maybe fixed or something it's unclear because he wanted it to be an excuse for lateness but also not prove he could never deliver

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno and i thought @frank was anti kickstarter

Sterno

@GodEmperorDune I'm pro-Kickstarter. I'm just all for knowing what you're getting into

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum wait, you're playing gnomeria. Who is not every character named after @GnomeSlice?

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden All male gnomes are named gnomeslice (all one of them)

Frank

@GodEmperorDune It'd be better if there were some actual teeth to enforcement of deliverables.

As it is, you can just grab the money and run.

Wipqozn

22:34

@Sterno Honestly, so many people fall for kickstarter scams it's nuts.

Or in some cases not even scams, they just fall for obviously doomed to fail kicksters

people are dumb

Sterno

I've only been burned on one Kickstarter so far, of about 20

Kevin van der Velden

I've had a 100% kickstarter success rate

Out of... 1

Sterno

I mean, quite a few delivered late. The majority, in fact

But few were just caught in the black hole

Wipqozn

@Sterno I've only backled one kickstarter and I don't think it'll fail, because classic Rare. Aka Yooka Laylee.

GodEmperorDune

@Arperum i get it, because @GnomeSlice is popular with all the lady gnomes

Sterno

22:37

I mean, Torment: Tides of Numenera said Dec 2014 delivery and that's not quite out yet, right?

Mad Scientist

There's probably a big difference between kickstarters of known people/companies and everyone else. The former use it at least in part for publicity

Sterno

But I feel like it'll deliver

GodEmperorDune

i'm just sad that yooka-laylee will come out and my computer won't meet minimum specs

Arperum

I'm at 50%, it was late, lower quality than expected, but it happened, and the other i don't care about anymore (cc @StrixVaria to share in the misery of the universim)

Sterno

Actually now that I'm looking it's more like about 5

But 4 of them I just stopped giving any shits about immediately after backing, like the one by the guys who made Space Quest

Memor-X

22:39

oh yeh i forgot, @Avery i took some of your advice on my status screen

Sterno

There's also a few, like Republique, which I backed and apparently never bothered to claim my reward on when it came out 2 years ago

:P

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno that was free on iphone a while ago

what was the reward?

Arperum

Rip @Ash. They also bled to death :(

GodEmperorDune

@Arperum :(

Sterno

@GodEmperorDune Well, it came out for ios in late 2013, so that doesn't surprise me. I think I picked it for PC

GodEmperorDune

22:49

@Sterno i might have gotten it all the way back then. it was a huge file and i played it once and it drained my battery

Avery

@Memor-X i mean I did play nekopara with such a thing (to see the game as it was intended), but yeah, one of such vns becoming #1 popular is something new

MBraedley

One thing I really hate about getting cavities filled is that my lip (and sometimes tongue) feel twice as big as they actually are.

Yuuki

@MBraedley At least you can feel your lip.

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