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10:00
If this guy bought at asking price
which he didn't
and sells at asking price
which he won't
That's a 63% YoY investment
not even cocaine nets you that much
@KevinvanderVelden The problem is that a popping bubble usually means a popping economy as well
Alternatively you could control the market and slow it down so it doesn't pop but decreases gradually
cfr. Dotcom bubble, mortgage bubble, 16th century Tulips
Which is hard but doable
Aah the tulip bubble, that's a thing that happened
@KevinvanderVelden Do you think the Belgian or Dutch governments are competent enough to do that?
10:10
I 'unno, why not
@KevinvanderVelden all I'm saying is I'm not giving this dirtbag 63% YoY
We'll see
Quick question: anyone here from France?
there was one French person that used to be around at some point, ever
Doesn't seem like it
but there might be additional closet Frenchies
@MattE.Эллен seems like the kind of person who'd rather not admit to frenchness.
10:12
Because the French elections are looking more and more like we might have another far right victory
@Nzall can Le Pen win without the second round of voting?
@M'vy doesn't autocomplete anymore
I'm a mongrel me. I don't know if there's any Frenchness in me, though.
people are thinking... hoping? that Le Pen will get destroyed in the second round.
I mean, out of the 3 major parties, one wants to quit the EU, one has their candidate involved in a massive corruption and fraud scandal, and the last one has the ghost from the Hollande government hovering over his shoulder
And what's also funny is that the Dutch elections have 31 different parties coming out
or something ridiculous like that
yeah, something ridiculous
In the actual election, there were 31 parties to start but "only" 28 had a valid candidate list
I know that the Dutch don't have an election treshold, but still
Only 16 of those are nationwide, the rest is only in certain regions
I see
Still, 16 parties for a country which is fairly uniform in population is a lot
I mean, that's as many as Belgium has, and we got 9 different governments
10:20
(we have 20 regions, 4 parties electable in 19, 1 in 18, 2 in 16, 1 in 15 and then some stragglers)
Also apparently there's a party called "JESUS LIVES" which you could vote for in 7 regions
And yes, before you ask, the name is indeed, officially, in full capitals
@KevinvanderVelden Well, duh. Not the biblical figure, but loads of people are actually named jesus.
@KevinvanderVelden how long before emojis in party names
"Jesus loves you" A thing that's nice to hear unless you're in a mexcian prison
Le sigh, googles what the "free democratic party" is about (electable in 2 regions)... first hit: "leader free democratic party arrested"
@KevinvanderVelden lol
10:23
(it's because he's a neonazi, for the not-dutch)
🗑️🔥 will be a popular party
@badp fairly sure the names need to be actual letters and such
(sorry, I chouldn't find a dumpster emoji)
Also fun fact @badp: The 31 parties at the start? Those were the parties that actually send a list of candidates, there were another 50 parties that didn't
we also used to have a stupid amount of parties
back when there parties would band up together and get benefits for it
10:26
Then fascism?
no, then we stopped rewarding parties for banding up together
💩🎦 another obvious option
so you got the VVD, the Worker's Party, the Freedom Party, the socialists party, the Christ-democrats, the '66 democrats, the Christ Union, GREENLEFT, the state reform party, the Animal party, 50PLUS, the entrepreneur party, VNL, THINK, NEW ROADS, Democratic Forum, the Civilian Movement, the Freethinkers, NOLEVEL, the Pirate Party, Article 1, the Non Voters party, Libertarians, the Local on National party, JEZUS LIVES, VoteNL, Human Spirit/Basic income/V-R and Free Democratic Party
@badp they did not, for the extra annoyance
Those are all the party
10:27
"Human Spirit/Basic income/V-R" is one party btw, for everyone else
And the Non Voters party is not the people who aren't going to vote, but a party actually called "Non Voters
Led by Peter Pissman
Or Puddleman, depending on translation
@Nzall Generally you don't translate names.
@Arperum I know that, just wanted to make a joke about how silly Dutch names are
@Nzall Well yes, they frequently are.
@Arperum I wish that was true... In german game of thrones Jon Snow is called "John Schnee"... Can't watch it in german because of stuff like that.
10:30
That is what happens when invaders suddenly force you to pick a lastname and everyone just assumes they'll stop being a thing when the invaders leave
Also, the Freedom Party is the nationalist populist party, which is pretty similar to Trump and Le Pen
@Jutschge I can't watch stuff in german because german is weird and terrible
As a native speaker: Agreed...
(PVV = "Partij van vrijheid" = "Party of Freedom" = what @Nzall said)
As in: want a Nexit, Want an immigration stop
And their leader has recently been convicted of inciting hatred because at one of his party forums, he made the crowd chant "less Moroccans"
And still they got 10% of the votes 5 years ago
10:32
@KevinvanderVelden I did not know what the acronym was standing for, I should have know it would be something like that.
Our most dominant party is pretty far right and well... Their leaders also get into trouble often enough.
I was confused at Nzall's translation for a bit so I spelled it out
Although not as often as the far left ones...
@KevinvanderVelden Indeed. ANd now you lot are stuck with names such as "born naked" or "pancake"
or "of the fields", what a weird name
10:34
@KevinvanderVelden Partij VOOR de vrijheid, not van
@Nzall oh meh, I don't pay attention to racists
@KevinvanderVelden That's sorta normal. My last name can be traced back to some analogue thing.
with the people laughing in the background, if I didn't know any better, I'd think he's a stand-up comedian
10:50
@Jutschge You're also Belgian?
@Nzall Swiss
But we also have great chocolate!
Hmmm chocolate
I should go to the dollar store and buy all the cheap easter chocolate
All of it? ALL OF IT
easter?
it isn't even carnival
you monster
Yuup, it's been in dollar stores for weeks
It is illegal to even think about easter chocolate before the 26th
WHAT IS LENT EVEN ABOUT other than lentils you guys really are into lent lentils.
10:55
@badp Normally yes, but it's already been easter once this year
like you celebrate lent lentils it's kind of weird.
@badp Lent is a place in Nijmegen, I know of no other lents
the thing when Albert Heijn is all about lentils and what not
mostly lentils
is it because of the pun
it's because of the pun isn't it
goddammit @KevinvanderVelden
I dunno, I don't generally observe bronze-age customs
@KevinvanderVelden like breathing?
11:01
That's not a custom
or having ~two meals per day
Also not a custom =p
@badp That's barbaric. Three is a minimum.
@Arperum "~" => "around 2"
2.2 maybe
11:03
Three is acceptable
Also breakfast is for people who hate time
or have time
11:43
Hahqgaggaha
Lesson was chwmistry
Someone asked how to make meth
I'm not going to say if he got a reply or not for legal reasons but I guess this message gives away if he got an answer
@Avery I didn't know Walter White was a student
Jesse Pinkman is
Aaand that student is now planning to study organic chem so I suppose it'll be fun to see him get arrested
@KevinvanderVelden Breakfast is a requirement.
@Avery Either that or blow himself up
@Arperum Blatantly false
@PrivatePansy soooo, I want to look up how easy it is to blow yourself up while making meth... but that'd put me on even more lists
12:02
Pretty sure making meth is the easy part. The hard part is selling it without getting killed or arrested.
@KevinvanderVelden No.
Thing is, Meth is actually pretty hard to make AFAIK
you need several flammable products including Kerosene
@KevinvanderVelden this is why there aren't any Dutch Hobbits.
and since it's called "cooking" meth, you can see why it's dangerous
Also, most meth labs are run by dumb people. they leave their flammable stuff in open containers, which then form fumes. Add an open flame and bye bye meth lab
@MattE.Эллен Belgians have been named the hobbits of Europe before. It has nothing to do with size, but everything with eating.
12:14
It makes sense
a hobbit's defining characteristics are resistance to the one ring and eating a lot
@MattE.Эллен So that's why Bilbo wasn't married.
@Yuuki I mean, I trust it as much as I trust handing LastPass my bank login
Also, the only reason why I starred that "Fake news" message is because it would get 3 7s in a row in the stars list
@Nzall stars it to ruin the numbers
@KevinvanderVelden Go ahead
12:17
But I don't want to star it :(
oh, right, I actually can make it even better by unstarring it, because then we got a full sequence from 2 to 7 stars
And now we got a series of 1 to 7 stars
@Nzall undoubtedly
Question: can what I just did be consider abuse of starring?
Sure, punishable by uuh nothing
@Nzall no
12:21
great
So, was any of you around when I linked to that article at 8 AM?
that's a different source, but same article
@Nzall to be fair, it's 8 AM right now somewhere
Essentially, Galaxy Note 7 batteries keep exploding, even in the factory
And yes, it's actual batteries that caught fire in that factory
Why would batteries explode if they're not being charged/discharged by use?
@Chippies these were discarded batteries that didn't meet quality control standards
@Nzall no but I was around when it was linked last night =p
12:24
@Nzall I don't think batteries can just explode like that though
@KevinvanderVelden oh, right.
batteries usually explode because they're either being charged faster than they can handle or discharged faster than they can handle
I mentioned this to my coworkers last night, they guffawed
@Chippies Correction: Properly made batteries
if they're not hooked up to anything, I just can't see them exploding
@KevinvanderVelden even poorly made batteries aren't exactly made of explosives, afaik
12:25
@Chippies these were defective
@Chippies lithium ion? Yeah they are
> strace -p 47435
Process 47435 attached
recvfrom(7,
lithium ion batteries have many fail methods, they are all fire
:(
so if there's a leak, there's a short circuit and they get really hot
12:26
@KevinvanderVelden well, I stand corrected then. TIL
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Q: Why is there so much fear surrounding LiPo batteries?

CerinI've been trying to design a charging system for a small robot powered by a 2S 20C lithium polymer (LiPo) battery. Were I to trust everything I read online, I would believe that the LiPo will kill me in my sleep and steal my life savings. The common advice I read, if you are brave enough to use L...

read the accepted answer
The reason why batteries usually don't explode is because there's a LOT of electronics in them to prevent wrong charging and discharging
@Nzall I stopped reading around 3/4's. Can they explode if they're not charged though?
> If they are overdischarged, some of the metal in the cathode undergoes an irreversible chemical reaction and will form metallic shunts. These shunts will be invisible, until charging expands part of the battery enough that the separating membrane is punctured by one of these shunts, creating a dead short, which of course results in fire, etc.: The lithium ion failure mode we know and love.
@Chippies Less so because there isn't as much energy
@Nzall that's when they're recharged after being discharged
Note: these batteries were defective
12:31
@Nzall I saw that, but what @KevinvanderVelden said
so they had defects
a normal battery shouldn't explode when properly charged
what I don't understand is how were they stored? I would assume they had to be properly stored expecting fire or explosions to happen, but clearly that was not the case?
were they just all thrown into a big pile of defective batteries?
Possibly, who knows
12:33
@Chippies at the scale those are made, it's impractical to carefully dispose of defective products one by one
Possibly one failed during testing, was tossed in a pile to be disposed and started a chain reaction
@Nzall even then, you'd think the pile would be in some sort of a giant safe or something
something that could contain the potential fire/explosions
@Chippies do you think batteries are kind enough to wait for failure until their batch is delivered to the disposal zone?
@Nzall no, but I like to imagine we live in a perfect world :)
A battery can fail just as likely right after being taken off the line as in the disposal zone
12:35
and maybe some of them are good batteries,
#notallbatteries
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Q: In Zen Koi, is it totally random which goody a blooming flower or is there some kind of determinism?

JanIn the mobile game Zen Koi, certain ‘flowers’ ‘bloom’ when you come close to them and sometimes give you either a speed power-up, or a gem to enlargen your pond or a pearl. I’ve noticed that they stay open for a given time but if you come back to them later they may have re-closed. So far, mainl...

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Q: What stat does the Kusarigama scale with?

FluttershyIn Nioh, there is a weapon called the Kusarigama. It's one of the five starting weapons you can choose from, and happens to be the one I chose. The issue I've run into now, is I'm not sure which stat the Kusarigama scales with. All of the stats have descriptions, such as "Affects damage with sw...

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Q: Does terrain provide a defense bonus?

D34DM347In the regular Fire Emblem games, characters will receive a bonus to defense when standing on certain types of terrain, such as forests. Does this system exist in Fire Emblem Heroes?

@Lazers2.0 it's more likely pseudo-random, so therefore deterministic :p
12:51
I've proposed a tag wiki for . It's just an excerpt for now, but I tried to base it on other tag wiki excerpts
so essentially genre, developer, platform, release date and setting
well someone answered my SO question almost a month after I asked... an answer is better than no answer but I've kind of moved on :/
@BlueBarren Tumbleweed badge tho
@Jutschge oh I had that aaaaggggess ago
@MattE.Эллен I'm pretty certain some things have a higher chance of appearing than others. Can't remember how exactly it worked though.
12:59
I just wonder if I should mark it as the answer even though I'm not going to try it because I switched to something completely different to solve my problem (hence I didn't answer my own question)
@Arperum fair enough. I was just being pedantic
@KevinvanderVelden This requires a link cable, so physical presence. If someone is physically present and pulls this trick on you, you're welcome to beat the Muk out of them
BUT PUNCHING PEOPLE IS WRONG GUYS
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Q: Which weapon counts as "first" towards Ultimate Pro achievement?

lentinantUltimate Pro achievement description reads as "Reached maximum proficiency with your first weapon". But, which weapon should actually be counted as first? Is it straight sword you get in prison in prologue mission? Or first weapon of your choice you obtain in Japan?

@Unionhawk it's a dick move, and I personally consider it destruction of property
and it's also a violation of several hacking laws
13:09
@Nzall the /s is implied with capslock
(the joke here is that sometimes it's 100% justified)
@KevinvanderVelden "GUYS" is also a possible indicator
Also, I believe I may have just found a way to adapt our development deploy script to automatically restart tomcat around the deploy
Essentially listening to the port Tomcat is deployed on until the socket is no longer there
I think he has a quest for me https://t.co/qLsvNLeLgh
Seems like a good a day as any to replace a Stack Overflow SQL server. Old vs. New: https://t.co/duYIli9PKc
I'm sorry, does that say 1.8 PB?
As in nearly 2000 TB?
Jesus
It says TB everywhere else on the image though
I think it's 1.8TB, which is still a shitton of ram
"Hardware reserved: 1.8PB"
Oh it's 1.5 TB I think
13:22
Yeah probably
And like maybe if the server is on fire it might be able to page up to 1.8 PB
With just a massive amount in hardware reserved for reasons
But like, if you're using more than 1.5 TB something is horribly wrong
@Unionhawk I was going to make a joke about Azure and AWS, but then I realized that 1.5 TB is probably peanuts for them
Wait they have PSU firmware? That's a thing?
13:23
@KevinvanderVelden Yes
@Nzall I don't think they have any single machine with that much memory
But yeah
@KevinvanderVelden probably for the UPS PSU
Hmm plausible
It caused NY-SQL02 to go down and require a manual power cycle once
was about to say tht
13:24
As in literally someone had to go and unplug it
@Jaxidian I honestly have no idea what that number means. It feels random across out machines.
Come on god damn you build
stop with this error thing
@Unionhawk No.
It's a free compiler and can error when it wants to
13:31
Did you mean argc or argv?
Ugh so I'm debating on buying ESO again
@BlueBarren Elder scrolls online or something else?
All right, gotten changeset 1, now get changeset latest
clean rebuild
come on
work damn you
this is now just a clean without my code build by the way so someone else broke it
I'm hoping TFS broke it
hmmm
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Q: What genre are games like Arcanists, Worm, Warlings?

Jasper CatthoorI'm looking for more games like the abovementioned ones. Especially one like Jagex's Arcanists where not everyone has the same spells/weapons. To be clear, I'm not asking for recommendations. I just need the genre so I have something to search for.

13:48
apparently the latest in TFS was never built to DEVServer?
in any case, DEVServer work
\o/
@BlueBarren I'm debating resubbing to SWTOR again for KoTET
@Jutschge Yeah Elder Scrolls Onilne, in this case the Gold Edition
@Nzall you don't have to sub in that game, do you?
@BlueBarren You do if you want to play the newest content, I believe
and non-subs get 25% less XP
I'm really thinking about starting to play an MMO again but Idk... Most of them don't have enough PvE endgame for my taste...
Son up all night vomiting. Had to get up at 5:30am to take a cat to the vet an hour away for some surgery. Get there and they're all "Oh, didn't we tell you he had to fast? Oops. Teehee. Try again next time." And Panera didn't put any bacon on my bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich.

THANKS TRUMP
13:57
I WAS WRONG THE JEFF SESSIONS VOTE WENT 52-47-1
@Jutschge have you tried Legion?
@Sterno Isn't that fasting thing always the case for surgeries that involve having the person/animal not awake.
@Arperum Usually, it's best to not eat anything if a doctor is going to stab you with things
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@Nzall that just seems outright annoying but I guess it depends on the actual xp numbers
@BlueBarren it's better these days. It used to be that if you didn't have a sub, you'd need to do every single quest along the way, including the dungeon quests
13:59
I played that game for a very short time
But these days, you can just do your personal storyline and the planet story line
I think it's because it kept crashing at the first big mission right at the end
and you'll get to max level with that
@Nzall Yeah that's why I said most. Legion was fun but after some years WoW starts to lose it's replayability.
@Jutschge Have you tried GW2?
Because if the game doesn't have enough endgame, you can always level an alt
14:01
Yup. But I don't feel like there's enough PvE content. PvP is great but the only game i'm good at in PvP is league.
Or did they update it with more PvE content?
They added raids, and most of the PvE content is in the outdoor world
@Arperum They didn't say anything specific so we last fed him at 5pm. Which would have been 20 hours. They needed 24.
OH WELL
although I haven't tried raids yet, and the PvE content they added is technically endgame since it's at max level
Hmm I might look into it again. I kinda enjoyed GW2. I have the expansion but I haven't really played since
I mean, they didn't add new levels, so if you have a level 80, you can do all the new content
@Jutschge Try it. The game is F2P if you have an account anyway, so you're not wasting money
like, no sub fee, so if you don't like it after an hour, you don't lose your lunch money
14:03
True... GOODBYE BINDING OF ISAAC. YOU WILL BE REPLACED BY AN MMO
Also, there are tons of other MMOs out there: DDO, LOTRO, TSW, Wildstar, Rift,...
So I'm watching Arrow last night, and he drops into this group of like 6 Russian mafia guys. All have guns. He shoots one or two with arrows and then starts hand-to-handing the rest. ALL OF WHICH NEVER EVEN TRY TO SHOOT HIM WITH THEIR GUNS
They're just like, "Nah, it's cool, let's have a kung fu fight"
Hmm tried most of them but none got me hooked like WoW. Except for Swtor but they made the game freemium and it had a huge impact on quality.
SUPERHERO SHOWS, PLS STOP THIS
14:06
@Sterno Using a gun at point blank range is not really a good idea
@Nzall They don't start at point-blank range. They RUN into point-blank range.
And I'd still argue it's smarter than trying to hand-to-hand the guy who just took out 6 of your buddies
@Sterno Wat. that's ridiculous.
@Nzall John Wick has taught me otherwise.
Over here it's "don't feed him after 10PM or so if you bring him in the next day
14:11
I love how soldiers in movies always fire their rifles without any hearing protection and talk normally after. I once didn't have my protectors on correctly and I was deaf on one ear for like 3 hours...
@Jutschge How do soldiers in the real world handle rifle hearing loss then?
like, are they wearing earplugs or something?
@Jutschge DO YOU WANT TINNITUS? BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET TINNITUS
cc @fredley
Nightly builds failing is not fun, since I can't test my software properly without those builds. Not that I can properly test my software right now anyway since we're waiting on the prime contractor for 2 new hard drives.
@Nzall Well we had Big hearing protectors/headsets for sergeants and tiny earplugs for other situations. Idk if there are some rifles that are more quiet but shooting without protection was a bad idea for ours...
@Jutschge Well, you are effectively using a bunch of gunpowder to propel a metal slug to roughly the speed of sound, it's bound to make some noise
14:22
You're not completely deaf with the protectors on but it really helps against blowing your eardrums out.
It's also a thing where yes, a few fights or whatever without you'll heal. Constant training to be remotely good at using them not so much
There's some tech out there that basically transmits sound through a microphone and headphones unless it exceeds x dB
@badp I've keybase-chatted chris coyne about that, voicing my concerns about it (1- aliases like badp, swiftonsecurity etc that prefer keeping their rl name not associated 2- trans folk using their picked names). I'll let you know if he replies (he likely will).
idk how the army does it /shrug
Magic and money.
Mostly money though. Everything in the army is far too expensive.
14:24
@Avery probably will get something like "we won't ban you"
"for now"
"maybe"
@badp yeah, ikno, but still, some people absolutely care more about what the legalese says rather than the actions taken.
I read the legalese yes
It's like, if someone tells me that they have the right to kill me but say they won't, I won't feel safe for obvious reasons.
@Sterno How are you enjoying Nioh?
@Avery hang on I have something for this
14:27
@Unionhawk are you going to link human centipad?
@Avery fun fact, up until the 70s it wasn't illegal for married men in Italy to kill their wife if they cheated on him.
I'm not sure if switching homeowners insurance is always the worst or if the company I'm leaving is just the worst.
I guess I'll learn more next time I want to switch companies.
@Fluttershy Fun, but I'm only through the first real mission so far.
(the one after Tower of London)
I mean
It was still illegal
but with reduction on penalties
@Sterno I'm only part of the way through that one. And I already regret taking Kusarigama... Thanks a lot, Bridge. :P
(you'd still go to jail)
@badp that's actually how it still is in turkey :(
if your wife cheated on you and you have proof and kill her, you still go to jail, but get a notable reduction for some legalese saying it was her fault or something
@badp he messaged me that they'll likely going to get a new tos soon anyways and that he'll keep that in mind. And also this bit: "honestly I didn't even know that was in there"
Oh shit
get rekt
Ah, a RfC on RS/N
I was wondering what the proper avenue for that decision was
Part of me wants to take part in efforts to resource things assuming a script already exists
Because screw Daily Mail
@Unionhawk Feel free to do so
they're looking for volunteers to resource DM links
14:42
so I just received the heart thingies, nice
@Nzall Like I said, iff there's a script (there's probably a script)
(wikipedia cleanup people love cleanup scripts)
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Q: When I open tf2 my volume stops working

Bob BobWhen I open Team fortress 2 and counter strike global offensive (via steam) and i plugin headphones an error sign shows up as i try to increase the volume. I haven't tested this with any other games yet but these 2 react in this way for sure. Is there some option to change this or is there a prob...

@Unionhawk when working on the largest encyclopedia, wouldn't you?
Yes
I've used cleanup scripts. They're great
14:46
canadian baptism
@Chippies Ironically, the search engine Bing is not one of those things.
Help, I'm looking at tools again
I really don't need more
@Yuuki "Google. Because even fascists can't live without us"
@KevinvanderVelden don't ask the bridge to reinforce financial decisions
Usually all the ways you guys try to reinforce bad decisions make me remember they're bad
14:59
So the front page on Twitch has some guy playing online poker
For thousands of dollars
I have to assume that's a delayed stream because otherwise RIP him

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