The Bridge

Unionhawk

20:00

I don't have those numbers other than "it's definitely a thing here"

MadMAxJr

Hey, the midwest has meth abuse. That's our drug. Get your own.

Unionhawk

The midwest typically includes Ohio

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Seelah Powers to help

In the mobile game Pathfinder Adventures a ! next to the character represents they can help in some way. For example, contributing a blessing for an extra dice during a check. Below are two screen shots: The first is toward the end of someone's turn. The icon indicates that Seelah can help someh...

pathfinder-adventures

0

Q: Be Kind, Please Rewind: Do you have to watch the tapes to the end?

There is a trophy/achievement which requires you to watch all video tapes in a single playthrough: Be Kind, Please Rewind Watch all the videotapes in a single playthrough. Do you have to watch them all to the end to unlock the trophy/achievement? Or can you start them and then drop out?

resident-evil-7

Yuuki

In Texas, we're addicted to guns.

MadMAxJr

And drive through liquor.

Unionhawk

20:10

old and busted password choice: "hunter2" new hot secure password choice: "p" https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=852751

Tweeted by FioraAeterna on January 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM

@MadMAxJr That's also a thing in Ohio

MadMAxJr

I'm sure in Wisconsin back-alley cheese deals is a huge problem.

djsmiley2k

@Unionhawk user confirms they trust dead software...

then again debian ':;

Yuuki

Why did you say the same thing twice?

djsmiley2k

:{}

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Can you calculate the max possible CP of a Pokemon (such as Dratini)?

With regard to choosing a Dratini to evolve, max-CP is of huge importance. In fact, the CP ceiling might end-up being much more important than initial CP. Each pokemon has a unique CP ceiling. For example, I have 2 maxed Gyarados, and one just has a higher CP ceiling by about 180-CP. Dratini #1...

pokemon-go

Wipqozn

20:24

@Unionhawk I'd like to think so at least

badp

20:36

@KevinvanderVelden stop giving this goddamn app money the ads are bad and everywhere

Wipqozn

Washington State attorney general suing Donald Trump over immigration ban

Unionhawk

Yes

Looking forward to "State of Washington vs United States"

Sterno

I'll wait for the movie version

Frank

@Wipqozn I think Trump has managed to attain the highest lawsuit count vs. Time of any president.

Unionhawk

Possible

Fluttershy

20:44

Also the fastest time to sub-50 approval rating.

Unionhawk

ACLU is already on him for both the EO and they have a FOIA request pending for his taxes

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk This randomly reminds me how much State of the State addresses bother me

Frank

Didn't a team of constitutional lawyers sue him to force a tax return release to ensure he's not enriching his businesses?

Fluttershy

How can he hold all these trophies in his tiny hands?

Yuuki

Washington vs. Washington. Winner gets to keep the name "Washington".

Lazers 2.0

20:44

-1

Q: Fallout 4 dangerous minds

I've been trying to complete dangerous minds on ps4 I've gone through the level 5 times now and everytime I leave the chair at the end the game didn't end I've watched videos were people have completed it and when I Copy it nothing happens I really would love to complete this game and I'm wonderi...

ps4

Frank

@Fluttershy They're not tiny! Just look at all the pictures of his hands!

Sterno

> Trump was only beginning.
He recalled a supporter telling him, "You have good-sized hands."
They are, he continued, actually "slightly large."
"In fact," he noted, "I buy a slightly smaller than large glove."

woah

I hate when a page hijacks copy and paste behavior

Unionhawk

I hate everything and everyone

Yuuki

@Unionhawk confirmed to be Trump.

Sterno

@Unionhawk is salty like me after I play Overwatch, except he's salty at real life

Unionhawk

20:52

WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH 4 YEARS OF THIS BULLSHIT

I'M GOING TO DIE

Sterno

Probably someday

You're not gay, muslim, or non-white, so your odds for the next 4 years look pretty good

(I presume... I'm not actually sure you're not any of those)

Unionhawk

I mean, okay yeah there is that

Yuuki

I, on the other hand, being from CHY-na may be in trouble.

Unionhawk

It could in fact be worse

Ronan

Unless he needs to use a hospital at any point.

Sterno

20:58

Oh, yeah. If you're from Chyna, that's bad news

Kevin van der Velden

True, we should probably build a wall to protect us from Chyna

Sterno

@Ronan I am willing to bet he has health insurance.

@Unionhawk Do you have health insurance?

badp

@Unionhawk I survived 15 years of Berlusconi with VERY minimal brain damage. You can do this!

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Welp, there goes Sugarland.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp I can only confirm you survived

badp

20:59

I bet you couldn't even tell I was extremely slightly insane

Unionhawk

@badp This actually explains a lot

Ronan

@Sterno Unless it gets too expensive from reduce enrolment.

Unionhawk

I mean what

Sterno

I'm not the only one who keeps thinking this, right?

Chyna

Chyna (born Joan Marie Laurer; December 27, 1969 – c. April 20, 2016) was an American professional wrestler, glamour model, pornographic film actress, and bodybuilder. Chyna first rose to prominence in the World Wrestling Federation (WWF, now WWE) in 1997, where she was billed as the "Ninth Wonder of the World" (André the Giant was already billed as the eighth). A founding member of the stable D-Generation X as the promotion's first female enforcer, she held the WWF Intercontinental Championship (the only female performer to do so) twice and the WWF Women's Championship once. She was also the first...

Unionhawk

@Sterno I do

Kevin van der Velden

21:00

@badp again, can only confirm the extremely part

Unionhawk

@Sterno You are not

@KevinvanderVelden Will you confirm or deny the slightly part

badp

@KevinvanderVelden I know, you pretty much can't tell at all

Sterno

OH SHIT 2016 GOT CHYNA

Unionhawk

Oh shit

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk ~~errrr, I'd say deny but I fear~~ USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

Unionhawk

21:01

RIP @KevinvanderVelden

badp

@Sterno 2016 is YUGE 👌

almost 14 months and counting

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk Oh snap. @Ronan just got rekt it ralph'd

badp

btw

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn It helps that I have a job with benefits and shit

badp

let's say ad absurdum

Trump gets fired

What then

Sterno

21:03

hahahahaha

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk wait what. I thought you were a jobless student who ate mac and cheese everyday?

badp

Can Pence still rehire him?

Sterno

Everyone wakes up with a hangover the next morning because of all the partying?

badp

@Sterno I did say as absurdum

Yuuki

@Sterno It's so weird seeing "circa" on a date of death in these days.

Unionhawk

21:03

@Wipqozn I graduated in December

Wipqozn

wait what

Yuuki

@Unionhawk But do you still eat mac and cheese everyday/

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk finished school

and he has a job

Unionhawk

Like, a full month ago yeah

badp

Does Trump get to be rehired or re-elected or anything

Wipqozn

21:03

my word

one moment then

Sterno

@Unionhawk Yeah, but even if you didn't I bet you have parents who would cover you

Unionhawk

@badp No president has ever been impeached and then forcefully removed from office so

@Sterno This is also the case

badp

I doubt he'd be banned from all of the politics forever

Yuuki

@Sterno 1) Repeal Obamacare.

badp

@Unionhawk excellent

Wipqozn

21:04

@Unionhawk Congrats!

Yuuki

2) Oh wait, we actually didn't come up with anything to replace it.

Sterno

Obamacare probably has absolutely nothing to do with @Unionhawk being covered

in either scenario

Yuuki

Didn't Obamacare provide for coverage for dependents up until the age of 26?

Unionhawk

I actually don't know how the "stay on parents insurance until 26" affects me

badp

@Unionhawk that said no president signed up to be a candidate between 5 hours of being sworn into office

Wipqozn

21:05

Also, was Obamacare actually any good?

Unionhawk

It might

@badp This is also correct

Wipqozn

I've heard it wasn't that effective. Although I also heard that was due to it being butchered be the GOP. in short I'm not sure what to believe.

Bridge please tell me my opinion

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn from what I've read it wasn't very good because of all the concessions that had to be made due to GOP

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn People with preexisting conditions gained coverage, however, healthcare costs (premiums and deductibles) went up pretty much across the board

Yuuki

@Wipqozn Everyone seems to like the "insurance companies can't deny coverage based on 'pre-existing conditions'" and "children can stay on parent insurance until 26" parts of Obamacare.

Memor-X

21:07

i offically have no hope for the world when a government sponsored education examination trials questions on emojis

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Partly due to the mandate penalty being really low in comparison to the cost of insurance premiums.

Sterno

@Unionhawk It used to be 23, so you'd still have been okay

Memor-X

first a movie and now our kids might be tested on them

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk is 16, right?

Unionhawk

Ok, so in other words I may potentially lose coverage in March if everything goes through

And open enrollment is in November

Wipqozn

21:08

@Unionhawk Does your job not provide you with healthcare?

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn It does, I elected not to enroll for now

Sterno

My health insurance costs went up about 30%

Unionhawk

since I was under the impression that I was completely good

Sterno

I don't know what they normally would have gone up though

@Unionhawk You also have 30 or 60 days for enrollment when your situation changes (such as coming off parents insurance, changing jobs, getting married, etc)

Unionhawk

So I should be good

Hopefully

Yuuki

21:09

I heard that some insurance company lost a case because it turned out that they were increasing premium costs and blaming it on Obamacare when it actually turned out not to be the case.

Unionhawk

My strategy is don't get sick or injured anyway

It's been working out pretty well

Kevin van der Velden

In political news trump would find horrible, security officers in silicon valley are unionizing

Sterno

That 30 or 60 day limit (I think 30, but I forget) is really strict though

Yuuki

Oh wait, never mind.

A federal judge has ruled that Aetna wasn't being truthful when the health insurer said last summer that its decision to pull out of most Obamacare exchanges was strictly a business decision triggered by mounting losses.

Sterno

My wife missed it by like 2 days and had to pay about double for state health insurance (with about half the coverage) until the next open enrollment

Yuuki

21:11

> U.S. District Judge John Bates concluded this week that Aetna's real motivation for dropping Obamacare coverage in several states was "specifically to evade judicial scrutiny" over its merger with Humana.

Unionhawk

The fact that enrollment is not constantly open is pretty dumb to be honest

badp

@Wipqozn youtu.be/UC4QSH1T8lU is a pretty critical take from a pretty liberal pediatrician

Unionhawk

But, there's probably some reason for it

Or maybe not, idk

Sterno

@Unionhawk One of the reasons is that a lot of people would not get insurance until something big was coming up

badp

but it also explains that the problems with it are not new

Unionhawk

21:11

That's true

Yuuki

> However, Bates said it's clear that "Aetna tried to leverage its participation in the exchange for favorable treatment" from regulators.

badp

The GOP solved those very problems for medicare

Unionhawk

That's the thing with health insurance

murgatroid99

The ACLU raised $24 million over the weekend

Unionhawk

Like, underwriting says "don't insure people who already have cancer"

But like, it's pretty shitty to deny people who have cancer

But, it's a business that has to make money, so

badp

21:12

But

What if

Unionhawk

You mean like if we did the thing the rest of the world does?

Nah

When was the last time we did that

Yuuki

What if healthcare was managed by the government instead of by private companies? No, that's communism.

Unionhawk

Ever

badp

What if medical care

What if it wasn't a business

Sterno

> Without an open enrollment period and a requirement to have coverage, many healthy people could forgo insurance until they became sick or injured and then purchase insurance when they needed to utilize health care, leaving only high utilizers in the insurance risk pool. Risk pools need premium dollars from healthy people to help cover the cost of high utilizers.

Yuuki

21:13

@badp That's communism. /s

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk I mean, you have a point. But there's a difference between a business that makes things you don't need and a business that makes it so you can afford to not die a horrible, painful, slow death

badp

What if there wasn't a need to make a profit out of healing people

Unionhawk

@KevinvanderVelden It's why health insurance and p&c insurance are very different

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 I'm getting a pop up on my phone saying I need to sign up for their newsletter to view the site. Anyone else seeing that?

Yuuki

@badp Because capitalism.

Also /s, I guess.

I dunno.

Kevin van der Velden

21:14

@Wipqozn occasionally, it is a news site

Paywalls are a thing

badp

@Yuuki but what if no.

Unionhawk

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST NOT PURE CAPITALISM, YOU UNAMERICAN FOOL @BADP

Wipqozn

@KevinvanderVelden that's not a paywall though. It's an email wall. That's new.

Yuuki

I have tried explaining this point to my parents and the response is always "what if poor people get injured to take advantage of free healthcare" and my mind just drifts off into eternity.

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn meh close enough =p

Unionhawk

21:15

the joke is @badp is not american

murgatroid99

@badp Even if they don't make a profit, doctors need to be paid, medicine and equipment needs to be purchased, etc.

Sterno

I mean, the money has to come from somewhere.

Taxes, whatever.

badp

@murgatroid99 so it would have to be provided at cost?

Yes like from taxes

Sterno

You can't just expect health care providers to take a loss for the good of humanity

Yuuki

I mean, the thought that someone would willfully injure themselves just because the doctors are "free" alone is mindboggling.

badp

21:15

Italy does have private healthcare mind you

murgatroid99

@Sterno Not forever, anyway

Sterno

granted, hospitals have pretty fucked up pricing

murgatroid99

@Sterno I've read that hospitals charge a lot because they have to factor into the cost the high probability that someone will fail to pay the bill, or that insurance will only pay a fraction that's below cost

Sterno

@murgatroid99 That is one reason. There are a lot.

Unionhawk

That seems like an extremely vicious and potentially counterproductive cycle

Sterno

21:17

I mean, hospitals have to treat you if you walk into the emergency room, even if you don't have insurance. They might have to eat that cost if you never pay. So that effectively raises the overall cost everyone pays

But they also have really stupid shit like $30 aspirin

Mad Scientist

@Sterno Many other countries figured out how to provide reasonable healthcare for everyone. Of course it's somewhat expensive, and there's plenty to complain, but on the whole it works surprisingly well here. Everyone pays a part of their income, with the employer paying the other half for health insurance

Kevin van der Velden

@badp there's nothing inherently wrong with private healthcare, you just need good government oversight and rules so that they actually compete and don't kill people

Sterno

And it's damn near impossible to find out what something will cost until after its over

badp

@KevinvanderVelden and then you get doctors who apparently only ever prescribe you painkillers?

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden But government regulations aren't Real Capitalism(tm).

murgatroid99

21:18

@MadScientist But I'm assuming it's not individual insurance? It covers even people who don't pay into it?

badp

Mind you I still haven't picked a GP

Unionhawk

Jan 18 at 14:26, by Unionhawk

I go to a fancy store to check out a piece of furniture, can't afford it. That's totally crazy! https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/817546801410555904

Tweeted by benshapiro on January 8, 2017 at 5:37 AM

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki well people who think that is a good idea need to open some history books =p

badp

With all of the horror stories it sounds hardly worthwhile

Mad Scientist

@murgatroid99 If you don't have a job, the state pays for your insurance

badp

21:19

It doesn't save me any money though

I still have to pay for medical insurance

It's just laze

Yuuki

@Unionhawk I catch the measles because some idiot thought government mandates were overreach and not Real Capitalism(tm) and now I'm dead through no fault of my own. That's totally crazy!

Kevin van der Velden

@murgatroid99 over here everyone is required to have insurance, kids <18 have government insurance and people with limited income have financial assistance.

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk TIL people are furniture

djsmiley2k

hmmmmm

Kevin van der Velden

And the insurance companies and the hospitals are mostly for profit

djsmiley2k

21:20

for CoD:FW what's best mp mode for XP? go og go

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn Yeah, Ben Shapiro has no soul confirmed

Wipqozn

Like that post is basically saying poor people don't deserve to live

Sterno

My wife feels like she's in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario with people who want medicine they don't need. If they don't need it (painkillers, antibiotics which won't do anything for a cold, whatever) but want it, they'll get mad and complain. She gets bad marks when patients complain. But if she just gives that shit out when they want it, even when it's not medically necessary, she's doing bad doctoring

badp

@KevinvanderVelden that's kind of true of ACA too, it's just people choose to pay the fines instead

Sterno

She says a lot of the other docs just give that shit out because it's the path of least resistance and doesn't impact them personally

You actually get punished for doing the right thing

Kevin van der Velden

21:21

And despite capitalism ho:

> In 2015 the Netherlands maintained its number one position at the top of the annual Euro health consumer index, which compares healthcare systems in Europe, scoring 916 of a maximum 1,000 points. The Netherlands has been in the top three countries in every report they have published since 2005.....

Unionhawk

Pure capitalism is stupid and has no soul

Wipqozn

@Sterno Patients are the worst

Unionhawk

For strictest definitions of pure

Sterno

From a purely mercenary capitalist standpoint, patients who come seeking drugs are good for business, and turning them away is bad for business. They'll go to the clinic that is less discerning

badp

@Sterno I guess the stupid part is administering customer satisfaction reports

murgatroid99

21:22

@Unionhawk Economic systems in general don't have souls. They're abstract categorizations of collective optimization behavior

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn Patient is just a fancy name for clients, and every IT person knows clients are the worst and lie

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 I mean, what is a soul?

I think that's the question that should be answered first.

badp

and yes being in pain is awful. Being in pain after you built resistance to painkillers is worse

Yuuki

And then, I dunno, we can ban people without a soul from entering the US or something.

Unionhawk

2 hours ago, by badp

Kevin van der Velden

21:24

Oh huh, TIL you can opt out of health care for religious reasons

Unionhawk

ye

murgatroid99

@Yuuki Well, I don't know. But if it's anything like how people usually use the word, mathematical descriptions of the process by which goods and services are distributed among a population probably don't qualify

Wipqozn

@KevinvanderVelden I'm fine with this except when it's extended to mean you can let your children die for those religious reasons

and I think the Canadian courts agree with me on that one, thank god

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 Yeah, but would capitalism in the music industry count as having soul?

Kevin van der Velden

In the netherlands, in a sane method

badp

21:25

@KevinvanderVelden the Nothing Matters Lol religion is perfect for the nihilist and the price conscious

Kevin van der Velden

With no killing your children and no "Well I don't believe in medical care so non of my employees get it"

Unionhawk

Actually I think that's part of ACA, making employers provide coverage as a benefit

Kevin van der Velden

I already knew america allowed people to go "YOLO screw you guys" for religious reasons

Unionhawk

(previously it was "well if you want employer health coverage, maybe just find a better company LOL")

badp

@KevinvanderVelden I mean

Yuuki

21:27

@KevinvanderVelden And now the government is getting in on the fun!

badp

It's only YOLO so long as you don't crash in an emergency room

without a single buck

and then everybody apparently pays 100× what they should

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Are videos tapes optional?

Collectable VHS tapes can be played using a VCR. The parts are interactive and played in first-person perspective as the character in the video. Are these sections completely optional? Are there rewards? video pause screen: The sections mimic the look of a VHS tape playing on CRT display an...

resident-evil-7

Kevin van der Velden

It's not the YOLO bit I'm talking about, it's the "I don't like it because of religious reasons that started when healthcare became mandatory-unless-religion, so now my employees get shafted"

Sterno

As much as I hate parents who are stupid about medical stuff I support their ability to choose what treatment their kids get

I really don't like the idea of the government telling you that you or your kids HAVE to get some medicine/treatment/whatever

SHUT UP JENNY MCCARTHY

Kevin van der Velden

I... don't, not in those terms. I would really like the government to not allow people to kill their children because of ignorance

I don't think that's a thing that should be allowed

Yuuki

21:32

@Sterno I agree, but it's a thin line to walk. Particularly when you have people talking about vaccines.

Sterno

I am pro-vaccine. I would be pissed if the government injected my kids with vaccines on their own and I couldn't stop it

Kevin van der Velden

What if you, as a kid, had an easily treatable, but otherwise 100% lethal, disease but your parents would rather pray for the disease to go away

Sterno

Then it sucks for you and I hate your parents

But that's freedom.

Kevin van der Velden

How is that different from going to someone and stabbing them?

Yuuki

@Sterno It's your parents' freedom, sure. The question is whether it violates your freedom.

Sterno

21:34

What if the government decided non-orange hair is terrible and wanted to shoot every kid full of drugs that makes their hair orange and makes them pronounce China as Chyna?

RIDICULOUS CASE but I am very much against the government being able to decide to inject you with what it decides it wants to

Yuuki

@Sterno Then it sucks for you and I hate your government?

/s

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno well nobody dies from not having orange hair and nobody dies from pronouncing china as china so I don't see the relevance

Sterno

@Yuuki Get emancipated I guess?

@KevinvanderVelden NOT YET

murgatroid99

@Sterno As a baby? I think that's pretty tricky

Kevin van der Velden

@murgatroid99 Curse you for inb4-ing me

Sterno

21:35

@murgatroid99 You are already depending on the parents for keeping that kid alive in literally every other way

Kevin van der Velden

But yeah that

murgatroid99

@Sterno It's also illegal to abuse your kids, or neglect them. It's not like the goverment just says "do whatever you want, hope it works out"

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno so you think it should be illegal to stab your baby but legal to kill them via easily treatable disease?

Mad Scientist

@Sterno That is entirely reasonable if the parents are resonable, it gets far less reasonable if the parents are unreasonable.

Yuuki

@Sterno Well, I mean CPS exists but is also a shitshow, so I 'unno.

Sterno

21:36

@KevinvanderVelden Not saving someone is different than killing them

Kevin van der Velden

I don't really see a difference between the two to be honest

Sterno

Plus it's not like they're trying to murder their child

Yuuki

@MadScientist This is libertarianism in a nutshell. It makes a whole lot of sense when everyone is reasonable.

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno if you're a random bystander with no duty to them then yes. If you're a parent with a duty to protect them then no

Sterno

They have very strong beliefs that we happen to believe are stupid

murgatroid99

21:37

Not vaccinating your children should be considered gross neglect, the same as not feeding them

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno That happen to be factually stupid

Memor-X

huh, that's odd, a whole bunch of spam users that's been registered on the magento store i'm working on also got registered on my local wamp server.....when wamp server wasn't running

Sterno

@KevinvanderVelden They're using alternative facts.

badp

@Yuuki I'm assuming a lot of laws about presidents are going to be rewritten after Trump

Kevin van der Velden

@badp I bloody well hope so

@Sterno heh, we all know how well that's turned out in the past =p

Anyway, time for bed o/

Unionhawk

21:38

ALTERNATIVE FACT: literally everything Sean Spicer said today

incidentally

badp

@Unionhawk do I want to know

Sterno

I mean, I definitely agree with you guys on what the parents should do. But I think it's really bad to tell a government that they're allowed to decide what's best for your body and do it to you whether you want it or not.

Unionhawk

@badp no

Sterno

But let's not talk about abortion.

badp

@Sterno that's not YOUR body though

murgatroid99

21:39

@Sterno So, should the government not dictate that parents need to feed their children, or provide them with shelter or sanitation?

I don't see the difference there

Sterno

I don't know how to make you see the difference there.

badp

I don't know I want to agree with @Sterno and believe this is a thing that can work with enough education on the matter

Yuuki

This would be so much easier if there was a pro wrestler that went by "The Difference".

Unionhawk

All people being reasonable yeah it works out mostly

Sterno

Stupid parents making decisions that will obviously kill their children is overall pretty low, luckily, as far as this goes

I mean, you have the idiots who won't vaccinate, but that's usually not lethal

usually

badp

21:41

The thing is

Unionhawk

And on the whole most people are reasonable about these things

badp

It all works out so long as there are few enough people that aren't vaccinated

Yuuki

@Unionhawk 45th President of the United States.

badp

and that's including people who didn't have a choice on the matter

Unionhawk

@badp Yeah, there is that specifically wrt vaccines

badp

21:42

You might be choosing for other children to get sick

Sterno

I mean, for most things it's pretty hard to prove that Treatment X will 100% save someone and lack of it will 100% kill them

Unionhawk

That's slightly different, since it's preventative care vs direct care

So

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Pokemon go Using superpower in gym battle

In the gym my Snorlax has a blue bar under it which when full means I can press and hold and release a super power. However types like Vaperon and Gyarados have several smaller bars which flash and fill up. But I can't seem to find a way to release their super power in a battle... which is annoyi...

pokemon-go

Unionhawk

More people are inclined to decline

badp

We're talking vaccines yes

Unionhawk

21:42

unfortunately

badp

It happens to the best of us

@Sterno has talked vaccines no less than 2,000 trillion times

good on you @Sterno

Unionhawk

I believe it. He's probably been around long enough to have done that.

Sterno

I'm the best at talking vaccines. I do it the most. Everybody says so

murgatroid99

@Sterno Nothing will provably, 100% of the time keep anyone alive. That's not a useful bar

Sterno

@murgatroid99 Then it's hard to say that a particular treatment should absolutely be required

Especially since a lot of times they aren't without side effects or risks

murgatroid99

21:44

@Sterno By that exact logic, people shouldn't be required to feed their children, because it isn't 100% guaranteed to keep them alive

Unionhawk

(usually 1/10,000 side effects and risks, on vaccines)

Sterno

@murgatroid99 I'm not going to argue feeding your children to medical treatment with you.

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 Feeding your kids does come with side effects and risks if they're allergic to things. And if they're extremely annoying on sugar, I might punch them.

Which I guess you could count as a risk.

Memor-X

@Yuuki there's also the risk of death

Wipqozn

@Sterno Sounds like a conspiracy to me!

Yuuki

21:46

I mean if we abstract things far enough, isn't feeding the same as medical treatment? Both involve introducing foreign chemical components to an individual...

A human is a system for converting dust billions of years ago into dust billions of years from now via a roundabout process which involves checking email a lot.

Sterno

I mean, I don't know. Are we even sure what the existing law is?

theblaze.com/news/2013/05/24/…

Yuuki

Isn't the Blaze that incredibly far right-wing news network that's like too extremely for Breitbart or something?

Unionhawk

It's Glenn Beck and Tammy Lahren and others

Sterno

I should have found another article. The part I cared about is that some parents were being charged

Wipqozn

@Yuuki Not sure. Let's consult my chart.

Sterno

21:49

fwiw the article itself seemed pretty neutral as I skimmed it

Unionhawk

JEEZ, @Sterno, GET WITH IT

Wipqozn

murgatroid99

@Sterno It looks like that case was brought by the state district attorney, so I'd assume it's a state law

Wipqozn

IT FAILS THE TEST

My chart never lies

I found it on the internet

Sterno

FINE HERE

time.com/8750/…

Memor-X

21:50

@Wipqozn it kinda looks like a person bending over

Yuuki

Federal vs. state vs. local is a whole 'nother bag of worms that I don't feel like discussing now.

Wipqozn

@Sterno The chart says it checks out, I think

Are Time and New York Times the same thing?

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn No

Memor-X

@Yuuki kitty flanagan explains that very well. Federal = country, state = corrupt, local = useless

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 OKay then I don't think it's on the chart

Sorry @Sterno your site doesn't even exist, according to my chart

murgatroid99

21:53

I think Time is generally considered to be good, and non-partisan

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 but the chart

The chart @murgatroid99

Trust in the chart

murgatroid99

That only has about 30 sources. There are a lot of other reputable news sources

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 but but the chart

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 Not on the chart/starlist, doesn't exist.

Wipqozn

The chart wouldn't mislead me

Well I think we've established my chart is canon

Sterno

21:58

Now you all made me think of one of the most depressing articles I've ever read

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