The Bridge

8:00 PM

@rlemon If I were to upload that picture to somewhere I could edit, could you link it from there so I can edit the pictures?

rlemon

maybe, but test when you get to a pc and report :P

Wipqozn

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Ronan Forman

Kay.

Wipqozn

time to vote

2

Ronan Forman

not if i can vote FIRST FOR iM fastEr

rlemon

8:02 PM

I wrote a userscript to do my voting...

user2334

Really thought ronnie would've had a late surge

2

Ronan Forman

He did, but he still had 72 downvotes.

rlemon

// ==UserScript==
// @name          Mah Voting Script
// @author        Robert Lemon
// @namespace     rlemon.com
// @description	  Does all voting that I would normally do, but automated!
// @include       http://*stackoverflow.com/*
// @include       http://*superuser.com/*
// @include       http://*serverfault.com/*
// @include       http://*askubuntu.com/*
// @include       http://*stackapps.com/*
// @include       http://*.stackexchange.com/*
// @include       answers.onstartups.com*

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn I hadn't actually given any thought to what order I'm going to put my candidates.

Ronan Forman

Okay, now who can I easily influence...

StrixVaria

8:07 PM

This is tough.

Wipqozn

@RonanForman I bet you could control ronan pretty well.

@StrixVaria Yeah, that's the hardest part.

OrigamiRobot

@MarkTrapp Yeah, now I don't know who to vote for.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqpozn He is my sockpuppet after all.

StrixVaria

I can't believe I voted for a pony.

user2334

@OrigamiRobot It's a heavy burden to carry, but I'll shoulder ronnie's votes. For the team, you know.

Wipqozn

8:08 PM

@RonanForman sounds good to me

OrigamiRobot

@MarkTrapp So you don't want to be mod? :P

Ronan Forman

Only 4 more sleepless nights.

user2334

@OrigamiRobot Oh, I mean "as well as mine". :P Thankfully you can't downvote in the actual election

Wipqozn

@mark you should edit the pinned message so it reflects the fact we are in the election phase now

Thank you sir

user2334

de nada

Ronan Forman

8:11 PM

Why does he need to be mod here anyway if he can already do that?

StrixVaria

I just looked through how I voted in previous elections. Every time I voted for someone and they didn't make it, they never ran again.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Well, I am Applejack. The most honest and dependable of all ponies.

user2334

@RonanForman my wanton abuse of pin edits extends only to chat.stackexchange.com, not the actual sites

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn I don't know or want to know which pony is which.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Shame it doesn't reflect your actual personality.

Wipqozn

8:13 PM

@RonanForman I lol'd

FallenAngelEyes

@MarkTrapp Careful, we've actually had pinning drama before

user2334

@FallenAngelEyes That sounds…unfortunate.

FallenAngelEyes

@MarkTrapp 'Twas.

Wipqozn

ah yes, I was there when that happened.

Was rather amusing.

considering people were raging over a pin

StrixVaria

You better be nice to me these next 4 days or that's changing.

Wipqozn

8:16 PM

@StrixVaria You're so awesome.

you're the most awesome guy ever.

FallenAngelEyes

@StrixVaria lol

OrigamiRobot

Maaaannn the PvP arena is gonna be off by 1 block

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot If it helps, the PvP arena is so awesome no one will notice.

StrixVaria

After 4 days he can be the biggest dick ever and there's not much I can do about it, but I will take advantage of this while it lasts.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria I'll make sure to remember this.

StrixVaria

8:17 PM

He won me over when I found out he lives in Nova Scotia. I like saying Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn The arena itself is fine. Wherever I place it will be off center by one block.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria haha, awesome. Score one for Nova Scotia.

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn Seriously, it's fun to say. You're probably just used to it since you live there, but here in the states we almost never have reason to say it. And it's a pity.

OrigamiRobot

Everything has a 2 block center except this stupid arena!

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria I see I see.

badp

8:20 PM

ugh, 4-1 doesn't make me want to play 4-2 to 4-10

Wipqozn

Yeah, I say it all the time, so it doesn't stand out to me.

Also, my class is over, so i need to go..

Good luck to everyone in the elections! :)

Ronan Forman

Well I live in Nottingham, so I'll stab you if you don't vote for me.

OrigamiRobot

@RonanForman changes votes

Ronan Forman

Well actually I live in one of the nicer parts, so I'll just threaten to and hope you don't noticed that I'm actually a wimp.

badp

I'm not sure why gaming.stackexchange.com/a/50388/23 didn't get any "not an answer" flags

Juan Manuel

8:25 PM

@badp it had an offensive flag a while ago

badp

@JuanManuel yeah, that's why I've seen it, but...

I mean, "is there a canon explanation for X?" "It's a game dumbfuck there doesn't have to be an explanation" ← not an answer

agent86

@badp are you sure? ;)

Juan Manuel

specially when we get so many useless not an answer flags... and all from you-know-who

oops, wrong room!

badp

@agent86 what were you expecting, an explanation?

it's a website, dumbfuck! there doesn't have to be an explanation!

̂↑ JOKE ↑ ALERT ↑ JOKE ↑ WARNING ↑ JOKE ↑ DANGER ↑ JOKE ↑ HAZARD ↑ JOKE ↑

agent86

@badp how silly of me!

FallenAngelEyes

8:28 PM

@badp Sigh, why can't "Review" ignore your ignored tags like flags do? :(

Ian Pugsley

well that's interesting...

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A: How can Astaroth get his opponents out of his face?

How to Use 6K First off - his 6K has been slowed slightly, yes. It's still an alright interrupt as far as speed goes, but it isn't safe, and it isn't great for moving your opponent (unless it's a CH1). It is very good for ringouts if it is a CH, however. Take advantage of it if you manage to bac...

badp

phew, adding the bold brought the line of text back to Verdana. For some reason it showed to me as Arial.

Ullallulloo

@FallenAngelEyes It does...

Ronan Forman

@badp I thought you preferred offensive flags anyway.

Ian Pugsley

under the preview (when I hit "Edit"), I see a radically different view than when it's posted

badp

8:29 PM

@RonanForman for 'wapionaeuirtewiortewuirhoewiurhewoiurweianweruiobuwenr' kind of posts, certainly

Ronan Forman

@Juan I'm getting the name Tom.

badp

@IanPugsley sounds like the kind of bug @balpha eats for breakfast

Ronan Forman

@Ian Suggested edits?

Ullallulloo

@FallenAngelEyes see?

StrixVaria

@IanPugsley Yeah, I just commented on this.

I tried to fix it for you, but...it's already fixed. Kind of.

Ian Pugsley

8:31 PM

@badp it's got something to do with the combination of markup and html

agent86

okay, so the election has started. Is this the part where I start bribing people?

FallenAngelEyes

@Ullallulloo I have them hidden though, so my frontpage actually has stuff I'm interested in. :/

Juan Manuel

@agent86 I like to be bribed...

agent86

I've got... 2 packets of instant tea, a box of kleenex, one packet of mayo, and a pad of post-its.

who wants what?

the mayo might be expired. just fair warning.

badp

@IanPugsley yeah, but the JS version of Markdown chomps it correctly

agent86

8:32 PM

ooh, I found some staples!

Ian Pugsley

@badp so what can I do to de-ugly it?

badp

@IanPugsley Can't you... er... restructure the answer to something that doesn't have headings inside list items?

Also let me suggest using ## title rather than doing titles by adding dashes below

Ian Pugsley

@badp how many nested lists do you want me to have!? :(

badp

(especially when you only use one dash)

OrigamiRobot

@IanPugsley Bold will look just as nice as the smaller headings

badp

8:34 PM

@IanPugsley Can you go with none? :P

Juan Manuel

Do I have to vote for 3 candidates, or can I choose 2?

anybody knows how that works?

Ullallulloo

@JuanManuel You can do two and they'll each get more than if you chose 3, AFAIK.

I'm not very sure about that though.

StrixVaria

@Ullallulloo No.

agent86

@JuanManuel you want to choose three people. you get one overall vote, but it's divided using funny math

Ian Pugsley

@badp ah there we go - ### has <h3> works fine, and doesn't wreck the renderer

StrixVaria

8:36 PM

You get 1 total vote, which is split fractionally among the candidates you choose based on how much is needed for them to win and the priority that you gave them.

badp

@JuanManuel You can choose one and it's the same

Ian Pugsley

@OrigamiRobot you are an unreliable source here as you do not like fighting games

Ullallulloo

@StrixVaria Isn't that what I said?

Juan Manuel

@StrixVaria so by choosing 2 they get more weight than choosing 3?

badp

@JuanManuel No

OrigamiRobot

8:36 PM

@IanPugsley Yes, that is both true and totally relevant.

StrixVaria

No it's not exactly the same.

agent86

Single transferable vote

The single transferable vote (STV) is a voting system designed to achieve proportional representation through preferential voting. Under STV, an elector's vote is initially allocated to his or her most preferred candidate, and then, after candidates have been either elected or eliminated, any surplus or unused votes are transferred according to the voter's stated preferences. The system minimizes "wasted" votes, provides approximately proportional representation, and enables votes to be explicitly cast for individual candidates rather than for closed party lists. It achieves this by using...

Ian Pugsley

@OrigamiRobot right

Juan Manuel

that page needs a tl;dr

StrixVaria

Your full vote is applied towards your #1 pick at first. If he wins, then it takes away as much of your vote as it can and still have him still winning, and applies the rest to your #2 pick.

If your #1 pick is eliminated, then it applies your full vote to your #2 pick.

badp

8:37 PM

gah, I'd written something but it's gone

What Strix said though

StrixVaria

That's the gist of it, and it just keeps doing that over and over.

Juan Manuel

@StrixVaria ah, got it

agent86

@JuanManuel just pick three people, in the order you want them to fill the slots.

ie, I want "X" to win, and also "Y", and barring that, "Z"

badp

The first round, STV counts everybody's first votes. If somebody has enough votes to win, he wins. Otherwise the man with the least votes is eliminated.

Juan Manuel

@agent86 what if I only want 2 and I don't care for the rest (ie, I trust in the votes of the community if my 2 don't win)

badp

8:39 PM

If a candidate is eliminated, every vote that went towards him is fully transferred to the voter's second choice.

Oak

Wee that was a hard vote

badp

If a candidate is elected, only the votes that are in excess of the bar you need to meet to be elected are transferred.

agent86

@JuanManuel if those two weren't running, who'd you pick? put your vote there.

Juan Manuel

@agent86 no one :)

agent86

if you wouldn't vote at all if those two weren't running, then don't pick a third :)

badp

8:40 PM

So if you need 50 votes and get 60, you only keep 50. One sixth of every vote that has gone towards you is transferred to each voter's next choice.

And that's mostly how STV works.

Ronan Forman

@Juan You could waste your last vote on me.

agent86

or, if there's not already a vote for agent86 in there, you could always vote for him

I hear he's a pretty cool guy

Oak

@JuanManuel do what I did; check how many votes and edits they have, how many flags, review their meta questions and answers. It took me a while now but I've finally found who I want to vote to

badp

This means that if you wanted to vote for ronnie your vote wouldn't be "wasted" on him, because if he gets pwned you still have your 2nd choice. (nevermind you can't vote for ronnie)

agent86

would... post-its change your mind, perhaps? what if I just left them here and then turned around...

Juan Manuel

8:41 PM

ok, I'll choose a third... but it's going to be hard

agent86

@badp yeah, eliminated in the primaries :)

Ullallulloo

@agent86 With me. :(

agent86

speaking of meta, I recently checked in over there and it said "You've got the discussion badge!" and I was like, there's a discussion badge? What does that mean? Took me a while to figure out it was the badge for discussion

Ullallulloo

At least I was positive this time.

agent86

@Ullallulloo aww, I'm sorry, that sucks :(

badp

8:44 PM

This election is easy to handle when I exclude all the anti-LAZERS candidates

agent86

@Ullallulloo I think I gave you an upvote in the primaries, if I recall, not that it's much consolation

Oak

@agent86 there's also a silver one ;)

agent86

would you like a packet of instant tea?

Ullallulloo

@agent86 I've already sent in my votes. :P

agent86

@Oak I'm just proud I got the bronze one :)

Oak

8:45 PM

@badp I'm pro-lasers

agent86

@Ullallulloo DOH. should've bribed you earlier.

StrixVaria

@agent86 It's like this: discussion with meta-tag instead of just tag.

badp

@Oak I'm fully aware, Oak. I'm fully aware.

agent86

@StrixVaria did I spell it wrong?

Oak

Aww and I thought you liked me ever since I left this chatroom to your mercy :(

agent86

8:45 PM

@StrixVaria ah, now I know

OrigamiRobot

@badp I am pro-Lazers-getting-an-appropriate-gravatar.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 instant tea sounds horrible

badp

@OrigamiRobot So you're anti-LAZERS.

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes you strike me as the kind of girl who would go in for a possibly expired packet of mayo

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OrigamiRobot

@badp Quite the opposite. I only want what's best for @Lazers

FallenAngelEyes

8:46 PM

@agent86 ...*shudder*

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes :( this bribing thing is not going well

oh, oh, I found a dollar.

AND - AND - a partially punched card for free ice cream.

just two more scoops guys!

badp

@agent86 They give away punch cards for free ice creams?

agent86

think of the discount!

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 What do you have to do to get the rest of the punches?

Ronan Forman

Oh, just so you know, if I won, I'd be forced to draw a new avatar for my new modded state.

badp

8:48 PM

@agent86 I thought the war ended in 1944

Oak

oh cool

2

A: What plans do we have for Mass Effect 3?

SE is planning an epic promo around the Mass Effect 3 release. You will know when it's on. You will know.... When it goes public, I'd encourage anyone interested to posts about in on there personal sites, blogs and friends' sites. But until then, shhhhh, it's seekrit. That's all I can say a...

Juan Manuel

picked the third

agent86

@badp yes! this is totally legit. I can tell you're a connoisseur of the finer things. This would be a great addition to any collection of stamped or punched cards that can be redeemed for free items if you get them punched or stamped enough.

Ronan Forman

@Juan Thanks.

agent86

@OrigamiRobot I'm assuming buy more ice cream. I mean, this is like a win-win

first, you buy ice cream, then you get free ice cream.

Jason Berkan

8:49 PM

Is @agent86 buying votes?

Juan Manuel

Seth is weird (in his writing style)

rlemon

ok time to test this bad boy out!

Ullallulloo

@JasonBerkan Trying to.

OrigamiRobot

@rlemon Test what out?

rlemon

:)

nope, nothing... :<

Jason Berkan

8:50 PM

@Ullallulloo Nice.

agent86

@JasonBerkan yes, but thus far it is going poorly. :|

OrigamiRobot

@rlemon Don't mess around with the site. You might break someth

badp

I think I'll fund agent's election fund and throw his way a partially stamped pizza card. Please make sure you don't live more than 2 km away from me, our you'll have to drive to the delivery outlet yourself.

agent86

(I'm also kidding, by the way. YOU CANT HAVE MY MAYO.)

rlemon

@OrigamiRobot that is always the intent.

Jason Berkan

8:51 PM

@agent86 I'll vote for you if you find me a place to live in Texas.

badp

Which would, by the way, be totally worth it. Because, damn, pizza.

agent86

@JasonBerkan housing is one thing we have in spades here in TX.

Grace Note

...what is going on in here?

agent86

I have some limited knowledge of Houston and Austin geography, which I'd be happy to help with (this is unrelated to the election, just an offer if you're looking for housing advice)

Juan Manuel

@GraceNote corruption

Oak

8:53 PM

@GraceNote oh, you know, nothing, just... crime

Grace Note

@JuanManuel ...that's what I was afraid of.

Jason Berkan

@agent86 Nah - just a running joke I have with my wife every time we complain about our current location.

@agent86 Plus, I'm pretty sure I can get a 500,000 sq ft house in Texas for what my house here is worth.

agent86

@JasonBerkan what part of the country do you live in now?

Jason Berkan

That is, if TLC shows haven't lied to me.

@agent86 Canada - north of North Dakota.

agent86

when I moved from san diego to TX, I went from $1,500/mo for a pretty small 2-bed apt to $500/mo for a 4 bedroom house with a 2-car garage

StrixVaria

8:55 PM

@JasonBerkan 500,000 sq.ft. is a little bit unbelievably gigantic. Was that hyperbole?

agent86

@GraceNote uh oh, busted.

StrixVaria

Or do you Canadians just not know metric units?

Jason Berkan

@StrixVaria Too many zeros - 5,000.

StrixVaria

@JasonBerkan Oh ok phew.

Oak

@agent86 and I pay 1700$ for a room :(

agent86

8:56 PM

@Oak :(

Jason Berkan

@StrixVaria I type faster than I think, it appears.

agent86

one nice thing about TX, we have cheap housing in spades.

Grace Note

@agent86 I prefer a house made of at least bricks or wood.

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 Wholly Chao, I'm moving to Texas. I'm paying more than that for a tiny 1-bedroom apt!

agent86

@GraceNote we have that too, if a building constructed of spades is not your style. my house has both bricks AND wood

Grace Note

8:58 PM

I'd almost be tempted if it weren't for the fact I can't find a house in Texas that'd let me live in Massachusetts.

agent86

@OrigamiRobot that house was pretty nice. Really tiny lawn, but that's OK with me.

@GraceNote the venn diagram of this statement is just two circles :(

Grace Note

@agent86 That would be the crux of the issue. Or at least, would be, if there was any intersection point.

Juan Manuel

off to my company's after office... see you later!

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote Yeah, Texas banned multidimensional doors. Bummer.

Juan Manuel

weeeeee

agent86

8:59 PM

@GraceNote indeed. having a crux with no intersection is also tricky.

@JuanManuel enjoy :)

@FallenAngelEyes, re: instant tea, it's not so bad. Arizona Iced Tea makes a decent mix.

badp

oh god

agent86

it has caffeine though, which is difficult for me.

badp

what use is it to have 8 slots when 6 or 7 of those are basically must have's

Jason Berkan

@badp Most levels are played out the same way. It is a bit of a repetitive game.

Dave McClelland

I just voted in the election. Yay democracy!

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agent86

9:03 PM

@badp yeah, eventually there will be more night and water levels, where there's a bit more strategy, but by and large your loadouts will be similar across many levels

badp

@agent86 This is the night and water level.

4-3 I believe. Now with baloon zombies, and hence a new slot "locked" by the only plant that is seemingly able to do anything about baloons.

I mean, I couldn't even equip the pea shooters in the previous level

StrixVaria

@badp That game just starts getting silly, really. Levels 5-x are the worst.

Jason Berkan

@badp I found those the hardest. Dealing with the fog covering almost the entire screen was difficult.

user30

oh god oh god i forgot who to vote for.

user30

Also judging by the conversation you are discussing pvz?

badp

9:10 PM

@StrixVaria Silly I don't mind. It's more like having to deal with one-trick ponies and one-trick anti-ponies

user30

I was playing that on my iPod a while back.

badp

when you can only use so many anti-ponies

user30

I didn't progress past the fog levels

Jason Berkan

I've beat the game twice (well, I guess 4 times, cause you go through it again with Crazy Dave giving you three random seeds).

StrixVaria

@badp I think the trick is to try to double-up the anti-ponies so they're 2-trick anti-ponies. Like you can use the clover to clear fog and balloon zombies.

Grace Note

9:12 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Yes

badp

I mean, I have eight slots. For power I must have sunflowers and sun-shrooms. For general defense I must have puff-shrooms and sea-shroom. For door zombies I must have fume-shrooms. For baloon zombies I must have cacti. For dolphin zombies I must have Tall-nuts. For the water I must have lily pads. For the fog I must have lanterns. etc. etc. etc.

Jason Berkan

Never let your kids play your iPod with the ability to delete apps turned on, BTW.

user30

Message from Gabe to Steam Community: Message from Gabe to Steam Community http://bit.ly/w9IEHo

Tweeted by steam_games on February 10, 2012 at 7:17 PM

user30

I don't think this has been posted.

StrixVaria

@badp You can do without cacti if you have clovers.

Jason Berkan

9:13 PM

@badp You don't need sunflowers and sun-shrooms. Pick one.

StrixVaria

@JasonBerkan Also this.

I can't remember what puff-shrooms are, though.

badp

@JasonBerkan It's so slow to pick up a decent energy production otherwise

agent86

@ThomasMcDonald aww, I was hoping for something more interesting than "security breach blah blah worse than expected blah blah"

badp

@StrixVaria The ones like the basic mushrooms, but much larger

Oak

@JuanManuel lovely answer you got :) "what's the effect of difficulty levels?" "it seems they affect the difficulty level"

Grace Note

9:15 PM

@Oak Pfft

Oak

I'm guessing he misunderstood your meaning but it's still funny

user30

Oh. GitHub is being DDoSed.

user30

fun.

Jason Berkan

@badp Luckily it's very slow for the zombies to ramp up their attacks. They don't attack via the water right away, so you can ignore that at first.

badp

@StrixVaria What's a clover?

@JasonBerkan Yes but that doesn't help with my loadout

StrixVaria

9:16 PM

@badp I imagine you will likely unlock them very soon if you don't have them yet, but they act as windmills and blow fog and balloon zombies off the level.

They're one-time use, so you have to buy a new one each time you want the effect.

badp

Now I guess 4-4 doesn't have dolphin zombies or Zomboni's or door zombies

Jason Berkan

@badp It does, if you take only one sun producing seed.

While we're on the topic - has anyone beat Column Like You See 'Em without using jalapenos? It's the one achievement I just cannot get.

badp

@JasonBerkan Taking only one sun producing seed is what helps, not the fact sea zombies only come in later

except... it would be considerably slower to kickstart sun production this way

sure I do end levels with like 600 unused sun

but the sun production I do have at the start at 25×4 + 15×4 per "tick" is barely enough to go by

Jason Berkan

@badp The point I was trying to make is that you have time to get your sun production up before you need your defenses in perfect shape.

@badp How many sunflowers/sun-shrooms do you plant per level?

badp

@JasonBerkan A sunflower then a sunshroom then a sunflower then a sunshroom... in total four of each

In world 3 I used six sunflowers and two lily pads.

Jason Berkan

9:22 PM

I generally run 12 per level.

badp

12 of..?

Jason Berkan

For the backyard levels each row is Sun -> Sun -> Sun -> Shooter -> Shooter -> Walnut

In the water, Shooter -> Shooter -> Walnut

@badp sunflowers

badp

Nah, I got through with one full row of sunflowers, then one full row of pea shooters later replaced by repeaters, then snow peas, and nuts only on the water. IIRC.

I didn't save a screenie unfortunately.

Also...

Sterno

I just saw a question that made me wonder something... anyone know if FF 13-2 involves time travel as a plot point?

badp

This. Oh god this. I'm getting this screen after every level and then some more

Jason Berkan

9:27 PM

@Sterno Yes.

Sterno

@JasonBerkan Damn it, now I might need that game. I have a soft spot for time travel.

badp

I guess this is the part where I close the game for the first time to later realize that since this process started as the demo of the game, it isn't going to save any of my progress.

relaunches the game

Oak

btw

would someone mind explaining that name for me?

XIII-2?

badp

@Oak what name?

Oak

Why two numbers?

badp

9:28 PM

@Oak ah. The sequel of 13 obviously.

Grace Note

@Oak It's on the same sequence as XIII but comes after it

The changes from one of the first number represents a mostly different setting altogether. Putting anything after the number, either a number or a new subtitle, means you keep the similar world setting.

badp

Oh, and obviously...

Jason Berkan

@Oak So my friends can mock FF by saying that it has sequels to sequels.

Grace Note

Compare XII Revenant Wings, for a less numeric example.

badp

Oak

9:29 PM

@GraceNote ah, so they have a tradition of different number=different world, and they want to keep it?

badp

this is what I get now

StrixVaria

@Oak Mostly. I think there is some overlap though.

Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy XII have the same world. I guess Tactics doesn't have a number, though...

badp

...and this is part of how I end up with a pile of games I never finish.

Grace Note

@Oak It wasn't until X that we had any games that actually did take place in the same world.

@badp That is terribly depressing

badp

@GraceNote Why, I only had completed 42 levels

StrixVaria

9:31 PM

@badp If you're going to stop somewhere, that's the place to stop.

Grace Note

After X, they amped up more on VII. And then 12 got more to it (which itself was an extension of the world established in Tactics, as @Strix noted), followed now by 13.

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Stack Overflow Blog: Survey Results!

Posted by Alison Sperling on February 10th, 2012

In December we launched the 3rd ever Stack Overflow Annual User Survey to measure changes in user demographics and trends from last year. First, a big thank you to everyone who participated, and now on to the results!

Demographics Let’s start off with some basic demographics: the majority (50.3%) of users are between ages 25-34 and very experienced (64.3% of users have 6+ years of programming experience). So, where do all of these developers work? The percentage of developers working at a start-up remained strong with 30.7% of respondents. We then took a look at salary by company size, and, not surprisingly, users who work at larger companies tend to make more money. …

Grace Note

...Feeds really is slower in here. Same blog result comes several minutes after the same blog result on the Lounge

badp

Confirmed breaking news. North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un assassinated. Updates to follow.

Tweeted by BBCLiveNews on February 10, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Ronan Forman

Zeta emissions aren't nearly as fast as light.

badp

9:35 PM

They're more powerful, and we need the power to run twice as many elections as originally planned

Making diamonds out of carbon ain't cheap

Grace Note

That's why mine wasn't made of pure carbon. I made mine out of carbon-steel

badp

All the people I'm following getting trolled by @BBCLiveNews is pretty fantastic.

Tweeted by LessPopMoreFizz on February 10, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Ronan Forman

Now whose more likely to be a troll...

Wipqozn

Oh man, it's story time on Phineas & Ferb!

Oak

@RonanForman btw, spent the morning skimping work and enjoying the snow at St. James' Park :)

Wipqozn

9:43 PM

@agent86 Best pick-up line ever. Mind if I use it?

57 mins ago, by agent86

@FallenAngelEyes you strike me as the kind of girl who would go in for a possibly expired packet of mayo

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn did you ever see what @Tristan made?

agent86

@Wipqozn hmm, sure.

Ronan Forman

@Oak We didn't get proper snow here this time.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Which thing?

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn ...that would be a really gross euphemism

agent86

9:45 PM

if you vote for me, I'll even throw in the mayo!

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn the new thing

Wipqozn

Every time I think you guys are done @OrigamiRobot, you wind up building something else making the server even more awesome than it already is.

Ullallulloo

@RonanForman As far as I've heard everywhere else, it's just a rumor.

Wipqozn

I really don't know how you guys manage to keep topping yourselves, but you do.

I'll jump on the server in a few minutes

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn We started with low expectations. I'm amazed that everything has turned out so well given that there was no planning put into anything. We just started building and it ended up awesome.

Ronan Forman

9:48 PM

@Wipqozn You'd need to carry arround some mayonnaise in case it doesn't work though.

Wipqozn

@RonanForman Agreed

Hopefully we have some expired mayonnaise in the fridge.

Grace Note

@agent86 This had better not be a recurring thing of "Things Grace returns to the bridge to find you doing".

agent86

@GraceNote ... offering people mayo?

Grace Note

@agent86 Were you around for the stern dinosaur conversation?

agent86

Oak

9:54 PM

@RonanForman not sure it was too "proper", it's almost melted completely by now. But everything was white in the morning, which was enough for me :) there was also a layer of ice on the pond there, which was cool, I thought it needs to be colder for that

agent86

@GraceNote I don't recall it. I have a terrible memory though. This seems like the sort of thing I'd remember, however.

That right there is the actual packet of mayo that is in my desk. Don't say I never gave you anything.

it even says "real" right there on the package.

Grace Note

I'm more of a Miracle Whip person, mehself.

Ullallulloo

@Oak It's still snowing here. >:)

Although there's not much accumulation.

Ronan Forman

@Oak How often did you get snow back in....

agent86

@GraceNote Not a big fan of miracle whip personally, although you and my wife would get along. we have this "lite" stuff at the house that is pretty much the opposite of all that is good and holy as far as creamy white fat-based condiments are concerned.

Grace Note

9:57 PM

@agent86 As far as I've seen commercials depict, mayo vs. miracle whip is the stuff that breaks marriages.

Whose side are your children on?

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 I never liked the "lite" Miracle Whip but I always had Miracle Whip on my sandwiches as well

Oak

@RonanForman Israel? Not often. Once you get past 800m or so in elevation it snows almost every year, but below that snow is pretty rare

agent86

@GraceNote hers, most likely. they absolutely adore her. I'm pretty okay, in a pinch. but if they're hurt or it's the middle of the night and they're scared, it's her all the way. I'd have to say that it probably carries over to condiment selection as well.

FallenAngelEyes

Now I eat Helmann's in the NL because they don't have Miracle Whip and I'm not that fond of Calvé

Grace Note

@agent86 Intriguing.

agent86

9:58 PM

@FallenAngelEyes hmm, I was always intrigued by what passes for cream cheese over there. That's good stuff.

Grace Note

Have you considered starting a coup?

John the Green

You guys are making me hungry...

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Kwark?

agent86

@GraceNote she has powers. I don't think I could usurp her.

Grace Note

Then target the next smallest target - the mayor.

I bet your mayor wouldn't be expecting a coup.

agent86

9:59 PM

@FallenAngelEyes I don't know what the brand was exactly, or what it's called in dutch/swedish, but "cream cheese" is more of a savory thing there and a sweet thing here

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