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19:00
I mean
It needs to be going home time
Yes
I also need to try to get this thing done in a meeting
Streaming tonight will be heavily dependent on what time I get home from fancy dinner
@twobugs so you're streaming monster hunter? excellent
also qdoba > fancy dinner
You're awful.
19:05
I'll stream MHG as soon as the 3ds capture device you buy me gets here
@twobugs i sent it a while ago, maybe @Wipqozn stole it
And yet you all still voted for him. Shameful.
Don't blame me, I voted for #Kodos
i voted for @Robotnik and @uni
@twobugs i voted for ronnie
I can't think of anything more boring than watching someone play Pokemon, or, say, a Final Fantasy game
Unless of course it's crowd-sourced inputs
19:07
yeah we need to make arqade pro much again
Guys, I need to tell you something very important. Prepare yourselves.
user15026
prepares
how can I find out what js is changing a style on an element?
@Sterno You're going to watch someone play Final Fantasy?
@Sterno your old?
19:08
@Sterno They're very difficult to do streams or let's plays of
@Sterno cmon be a good pun
I'm about to get free cake. There's free cake in my office today. I'm about to get up from my desk and go to the commons and eat some free cake. It will be delicious cake, and free. And I will eat it.
@Sterno what kind of cake?
@Sterno The cake... is a lie,,,,xD
@twobugs damn, inb4d
19:09
@GodEmperorDune The delicious kind, which none of you have.
And for those of you who hate the word, it will probably be moist cake.
moist is a great word
so visceral
It's the Dark Souls of words
so @sterno, will there be a line for the cake?
Cake is overrated
> Okay, so look...YES. Back in March, we already put Surgeon Simulator: Anniversary Edition on sale here at Chrono.gg, but we wanna make two things clear. Firstly, the Anniversary Edition now includes a mode where you can operate on Donald Trump, and second, if you think we’re gonna just reuse the old product description we used last time, you must be crazy, because we’ve been practicing hard for weeks to give you new jokes about this game.
19:12
The cake is in my mouth now!
@GodEmperorDune Of course not. Always go 10 minutes late.
@Sterno well at least there's no punchline
oh dammit you ruined that
cc @Wipqozn nonetheless
That joke is awful and was already ruined.
the punchline joke is amazing
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Q: What are the Pokemon Go attack types and defense types? What their strengths and weaknesses?

Eric D. JohnsonIt looks like Pokemon Go has several Pokemon Types, and different attacks have different types. What are all the attack and defense types? How do they interact with each other? Which are strong or weak when a certain attack type meet a certain defense type? What percent damage do attack types ...

I'm amazed at how many people play PoGo who haven't played another pokemon game before
also, what ever happened to Lazers 1.0?
@Kaizerwolf There wouldn't be news stories about PoGo if the only people playing were those who had played Pokemon games before
true
but it's mostly old people/journalists going "ohhh waahh kids these days just need more excuses to stare at their phones"
19:16
daaaaamn that's a cool concept
"hurr bdurr technology is scary, and thomas edison was a witch"
the only hurr durr is hurrdurrflags.gif
that game looks impossible for me to ever keep up with it, oh my
awesome concept but it made my brain hurt just trying to figure out what was happening in the video
I forgot about that one
@GnomeSlice its such a good gif
the double bounce on each side gets me every time
19:21
just turned on PoGo at my desk, game freaks out and has my character running a ways away, he runs back, Shellder shows up at my desk
I'll take a free shellder, dang
@Kaizerwolf I keep PoGo open because of the GPS bouncing. I get to walk some eggs down while sitting at my desk.
I think the guy's a bit of a dick, but for the love of christ, #FreeMilo. If/when I get suspended too, check http://notch.net
Looks like it's down for me right now, though
Up here
it crashed on me on capping a Caterpie. I should have known better than to try
19:28
@GnomeSlice why is notch supporting milo?
@GodEmperorDune Notch is... an interesting character
this is minecraft notch, right?
@GnomeSlice what or who is Milo?
And I have 0 support for people who try to start twitter harassment campaigns. Repeatedly.
Notch hates milo
19:29
@GodEmperorDune Yes, unfortunately.
He's against censorship of any form. Even if he think what's being censored is terrible
@Kaizerwolf very hateful guy online
But I guess he hates censorship even more
ah, neato
@sommerjj banning for harassment is not censorship
19:29
It's not censorship if you're punished for trying to harass people.
Sure it is
It is in eyes of Notch.
Also, the woman he 'harassed' wasn't behaving very well either.
Milo agrees that Milo should be banned.
@GnomeSlice that is not an excuse
19:30
Ladies and Gentlemen, this article is by Milo Y, writing in 2012 for the Daily Dot (Source: http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/yiannopoulos/3359/the-internet-is-turning-us-all-into-sociopaths/) https://t.co/utFXhUko3a
@GnomeSlice nobody deserves to be harassed, no matter what they did.
@TrentHawkins Heh. Neat.
Personally I think Twitter is free to ban or not ban whoever they want, its their website but Notch thinks no one should ever be silenced for their words. Dude's got a weird view of things
When someone has repeatedly broken the clearly stated rules and infringed on the rights of other users, a service like twitter banning them is not censorship.
@GnomeSlice It's actually not. Hate speech is specifically not covered by freedom of speech.
19:33
Milo is still allowed to say whatever he wants, but not on twitter.
if someone is in my store telling people to harassing some of my customers, i am free to throw them out. why should it be different on twitter?
@twobugs I thought rights didn't apply on things like twitter
@GodEmperorDune yes I understand how it works
@GodEmperorDune i agree
I still don't like it
INSERT XKCD
19:34
@GnomeSlice Why not? Why is twitter not allowed to enforce their own rules?
@twobugs Well you said yourself rights like free speech don't apply because twitter controls the platform. What rights were you talking about?
And yes, they can enforce their own rules
But I think this is a bit much
Banning someone who repeatedly incites harassment campaigns is a bit much? Why?
@GnomeSlice Twitter is defining rights that they're giving their own users.
@twobugs Ah, I see
I'm not arguing what Milo did is criminal, but it's certainly despicable and should be illegal.
Thing is, if twitter wants to sell it's self, high-profile toxic trolls like milo devalue their brand. Twitter let's so many toxic trolls slide, but Milo's harassment was getting them bad press - and news coverage of a high-profile user quitting over it. Let's not for a second pretend Twitter is altruistic here. Trolls generate traffic and cash, twitter only takes action when their targets are too big a loss.
19:37
@TrentHawkins That seems like a good point
I feel like a "PeoplePlayingPokemonGo.com" website has potential
@twobugs No, it should not be illegal to say bad things about somebody else
No no no
@GnomeSlice That's not what I said.
But that's what he did
@TrentHawkins yay, capitalism sort of coinciding with the public good
19:38
Starting harassment campaigns should be illegal.
What harassment campaign did he start?
Who is Milo?
@Sterno Breitbart guy. Not a nice fellow.
some jack-hole that's definitely not worth all the typing he's caused here.
19:39
A far-right, racist, MRA.
@Sterno the guy who spearheaded gamergate
Well, I just saw a picture of him and because I'm shallow, that's all I really needed to cringe.
ohh this is the same guy that started a lot of the Harambe stuff recently
That hair, man. That hair.
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Q: Distance meter broken?

Doug BI've started playing Pokemon Go recently, and when I first started the distance meter seemed to work in that it would show fewer footprints the closer I was to a Pokemon. Recently however it always shows 3 footsteps no matter what. Even as I walk around and discover pokemon the 3 foots stay the...

19:41
@Ronan So, his fans organized the harassment themselves?
@Sterno He goes through different eras of douchey appearances. This is is Trump one.
That what it looks like
@GnomeSlice Did you scroll down to some of the tweets he sent?
@Ronan Yep. Don't see any incitement, just a bunch of assholery
Because he's an asshole
@Sterno He's been critical of women in the past for dyeing their hair, so his current trend of making his own even more ridiculous is an…interesting choice
19:42
@GnomeSlice Making fake tweets from the target of harassment to make her look like a homophobe is more than just assholery
@murgatroid99 Where's that one
Milo faking tweets is not even a new thing. He's done it and then sourced them in Breitbart articles before
For someone who rants about journalistic integrity, he's completely devoid of it.
@GnomeSlice About half-way down that article
which one is faked?
> Leslie Jones, one of the most visible and accessible stars in the all-female remake of the “Ghostbusters” movie,
19:45
it makes me so upset that atheism is lumped in with all this crap. I don't see how not believing in god allows you to be an asshole online
> As a part of the general harassment campaign, Yiannopoulos’s followers created a series of fake tweets...
So, after Melissa McCarthy, Kristin Wiig, and Chris Hemsworth. She's #4 or #5 of 5!
@murgatroid99 Oh, so it was his fans again
I understand that, same happens to Islam with terror attacks
> Yiannopoulos "screencapped" and reacted with fake shock to the tweets, leading many Twitter users to believe that the tweets came from Jones’s real account
19:45
Ah
That's shitty
And harassment, not just "saying bad things about someone".
He does this kind of thing repeatedly.
Over and over and over.
There needs to just be an Internet-wide Hellban Button for toxic people.
There are some gaming databases that does that
And it just finds them and opens a trapdoor under them.
The logistics behind that will get complex
19:48
Hellbans are the best bans ever imagined.
Hmm, Rep. Mark Takai of Hawaii has lost his battle with cancer :/
RIP
Rip
Peter Thiel is endorsing Trump
As long as Trump isn't running for a moderator position here, I don't have to worry.... Yet.
@fredley no surprise there
19:50
America: pls
@Sterno I think this actually would go too far. "I am not obligated to provide a platform for this person's speech" really should not be translated to "Nobody should be allowed to provide a platform for this person's speech"
@GnomeSlice results?
That really would infringe on free speech
@fredley UK: pls
@murgatroid99 its up to individual sites to opt into the hellban DB program
19:51
A tiny wall topped with razor wire has been built around Donald Trump's Hollywood star http://on.mash.to/2acPilq
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@MadMAxJr trump isn't a stupid guy. He is really smart. He is extremely nationalist and racist. I fear his supporters more
That's the best thing I've seen all day
So the US election is basically a matter of voting Kohr-Ah or Kzer-Za.
I don't think Trump is particularly smart. I think he's good at taking advantage of people.
@GodEmperorDune A lot of the relevant sites have anonymity, at least in relation to the rest of the world
19:53
@twobugs he knows how to say the right words, the best words, he's very good at words
not much else though
@twobugs he can be smart and a thin skinned narcissist at the same time
One can be smart and dumb at the same time.
He's actually a really poor businessman, he's just managed to tap into the Zeitgeist
sage nod
so this guy seems to be making all his new answers cw's
19:53
@twobugs I'm not even sure how much it is that versus the corollary that a lot of people are easily taken advantage of >_>;
@twobugs he is smart at branding himself
@GodEmperorDune Is he, though? If you actually look at the Trump brand history it's a lot of extremely sad failures.
> The ladies, by contrast, bravely brandish their particle throwers like phalluses, which is a clue to where Ghostbusters went wrong.
Wow, this guy is an idiot.
They'd be funny failures except in classic Trump fashion he makes someone else foot the bill
@twobugs the average person thinks the trump brand represents wealth and success, despite so many failures
i mean he is a fantastic con man
19:55
@murgatroid99 The other hellbanned people can all see each other, so they can still talk!
@GodEmperorDune Yes, but I think that's different from intelligence
And it speaks more to how little weight facts carry nowadays
@Dragonrage I left a comment about that, but it looks like he/she hasn't responded.
@Sterno Because putting all the assholes together doesn't encourage them at all.
@twobugs yes, if we were playing DnD, trump would be almost entirely Charisma
@twobugs I see really smart people supporting really stupid stuff. I'm not stalking every move of his but he seems like those guys.
19:57
@Sterno congrats, you've created 4chan and certain subreddits
@Ellesedil i saw. at first glance, it looks like he may be using it to avoid negative rep from downvotes, but i'm not completely certain this is the case
okay, I just finished reading the article about Milo's ban. It blows my mind, hell it makes me sick to my stomach, that people can act and think like he does, that's all I'm going to say
Taking advantage of situations and people is a skill too, a powerful skill, but one that isn't liked by many
@GodEmperorDune I'd say he's more someone who has at least -1 mods to every stat but somehow has 100000 points in bluff.
@Sterno Basically, you want to create a community of shitty people operating within an existing community with no community oversight?
19:58
@arda It's a skill, but it's not intelligence. And if you look at his technique, it's really simple.
You just lie, nonstop, all of the time.
The most powerful liars believe themselves.
@twobugs 1) remove information from butt 2) convey information
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@murgatroid99 Yeah, but no one can ever see them again, so they can only annoy each other.
Okay, let's do this another way. I want an Internet-Wide Ignore Feature
I can't come up with stuff that makes sense that fast
@Sterno Right, because once you are unable to talk on certain websites, you have literally no power to do anything at all
19:59
@Sterno unplug your router, problem solved
That is the trump method
@fredley of? My check? I'm gonna try and get out of work so I can get blood drawn tomorrow
It is a scientific method
@GodEmperorDune Not even a little.
@arda The thing is - you don't
19:59
@Sterno You literally just created the perfect mechanism for criminals to plan crimes
This is actually a time honored technique
It's called the Gish Gallop
You make nonsense points faster than anyone can refute them
@murgatroid99 Yeah, because when my super awesome plan comes into action, the NSA/FBI/whatever definitely would just ignore it too
@arda Honestly I prefer Trump to Hillary
The content of what you're saying actually doesn't really matter - it's how quickly you spew garbage
As frightening as that is to say
20:00
@Sterno In any case, I think it would still actually infringe on free speech
as @Unionhawk said early, #GiantMeteor2016
I forgot that everything in The Bridge gets taken seriously. My bad.
Well I want a battle to the death style games in which only people who are toxic on the internet take part
that's totally legal, right?
of course
20:01
I'll stop developing my Internet-wide-Hellban tech immediately.
I want to be able to kick people in the balls millions of times per second
With extreme swiftness.
@twobugs R&D on MegaLegs, NOW
@twobugs so you want to kill people?
cc @GodEmperorDune
@Sterno It's hard to read sarcasm. And there are enough people who would actually want to do that that it's sometimes hard to tell
20:02
@twobugs 1 MHz might be beyond current technology
We might be able to pull off 1 kHz
@Unionhawk You / You may say I'm a Dreamer...
I'm thinking about rewriting this window
This is... ugly right now
> Nearly every Emily Dickinson poem can be sung to the tune of the Gilligan’s Island theme song.
Mind blown.
It almost looks like it was imported from 1.0
@twobugs hue
20:06
@Sterno This... changes everything
> Because I could not stop for Death
He kindly stopped for me
The Carriage held but just Ourselves
And Immortality.
@Sterno The trick is to get as absurd as possible as quickly as possible, rather than ramping up slowly
@Sterno oh god
posted on July 20, 2016

Overview On July 20, 2016 we experienced a 34 minute outage starting at 14:44 UTC. It took 10 minutes to identify the cause, 14 minutes to write the code to fix it, and 10 minutes to roll out the fix to a point where Stack Overflow became available again. The direct cause was a malformed post that caused one of our regular expressions to consume high CPU on our web servers. The post was in

heh
The most important thing I got from that is "if you're going to use regex, know what you are doing with it or find a different way to do string comparisons."
20:10
wow, that's pretty cool actually
@OKAY,PANIC. how to trim() strings, regex style!
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Q: Why use ^[\s\u200c]+|[\s\u200c]+$ to trim spaces?

Tom MedleyI came across some code recently where the following regex was being used to trim spaces (and \u200c) from the start and end of a string. Is there a good reason to use a regex, or can I replace it with a trim() function?

That didn't take long. Upvoted.
@fredley I hate you
Mostly for stealing my idea
inb4
@fredley all mah reps
20:15
HNQ
Doesn't that string have the spaces in between two characters?
I should downvote that out of spite
"The malformed post contained roughly 20,000 consecutive character of whitespace on a comment line that started with -- play happy sound for player to enjoy."
well if we are plugging our SO posts, here's mine
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Q: AttributeError when using request.function in pytest yield fixture

Matt GiltajiI have several pytest test cases that need nearly identical setup, so I would like to have them reuse a fixture to keep things DRY. The setup involves creating a new ticket in an external ticket tracking system, then the test cases interact with the ticket based on the data, and finally the fixtu...

"After the 20,000th space, there is a different character, but the Regex engine expected a space or the end of the string."
So, that's not something you can trim.
And probably why their solution was to use substring.
20:16
I don't get it
What was the code?
Not so code, the code in question
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Q: <code> tags are not rendering on the SE Status Blog

fredley<code> tags currently do not have an appropriate style applied on the SE Network Status Blog. It seems headings are not styled appropriately either.

Posting intensifies
153MB PoGo patch. Patch notes: "minor text fixes"
Login status: Impossible
Threw ~20 great balls at a haunter (cp 430) earlier. Game crashed.
No haunter
Foxtrot Mike Lima
@Sterno PATCH NOTES: VERY ADEQUATE
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh who is responsible for this nonsense
20:22
@Sterno It's an 11.53 MB patch, but whatever.
@Unionhawk IT's you. You are.
@Sterno because minor text errors are the only problems with the game
Decimals are hard
@Arperum it is 153 mb for me
@Arperum Wow, @Sterno doesn't get my Star anymore
20:22
It better fix the tracking window.
<CheckBox ... HorizontalAlignment="Left" Margin="224,35,0,0" RenderTransformOrigin="0.559,-0.312" .../>
vomit
@Dragonrage I just downloaded it and it was 11.53Mb
@Arperum what platform?
@Sterno Android
20:23
the entire game is 161 MB, and they had a 153 MB patch, and all they fixed were a few text errors
@Dragonrage what platform?
@GnomeSlice This looks cool but I reflexively close the window when I see "roguelike" by now
@Sterno iOS
@twobugs Your loss
It's 11.53 in the Play Store.
20:23
Might have done a Payday 2 type patch
No... your FACE
where they just send out the entire game as a patch
It is the year 2017. Any game with a fail state is considered a roguelike...
SO this results in iOS having stupid patch sizes. So we can blame Apple for this nonsense.
someone should decompile the new version and see if the only changes were text fixes
20:24
@Unionhawk Always fun to get those kinds of patches.
@Arperum i prefer to blame @Wipqozn
@Dragonrage No. @Wipqozn should be too busy playing Monster Hunter to cause that.
@Arperum Like, 22 GB of game too
@Unionhawk Fun.
Best update no update
I can't update bc I sideload.
Have to download again :/
20:31
@twobugs Generally, "roguelike elements" means random/procedural level generation and the inability to load a previous state within a single game instance (which is stronger than "there is a failure state"). I don't think I've ever seen a "roguelike"/"roguelite" without both of those elements
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Q: Pokemon will not spawn on farm

mewI live on a farm and there does not seem to spawn any pokemon , even incense does not work . My signal strength is good and gps works . And when i am in town the game works perfectly. So why wont any pokemon spawn on my farm

I can't wait until @Wipqozn gets his phone and starts playing Pokemon and the rest of us are all bored of it by then.
@murgatroid99 Yeah true, I just feel like it's a really overused term nowadays for a group of loosely related (if at all) games
@Sterno So, tomorrow?
@twobugs I think that those two elements together have a significant number of fans, almost as though they constituted a genre, so it's worth it to treat them like a genre
I'm this close to rewriting this entire dialog
This is super gross
20:42
@twobugs Well, if it's really tomorrow, then I guess I'll have to settle for "is unable to log in because the servers are shit again"
@sommerjj I can't even buy just 1 month, I would have to buy a year at once because I can't find out how to change it to 1 month.
@Sterno I just installed it on my mothers phone for her
She's like "son, can you explain this pokemon go thing to me. What do you mean you're not playing it? How old is your phone!?"
8
My father, who barely knows how to use a computer (he types with two fingers), has a phone capable.
No working for me.
Down
@murgatroid99 Hey! :) Thanks! +@arda
Sorry for the pings. Just wanted to get the whole URL showing
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Q: Can I play pokemon go without wifi

Ralph sayenI have no data plan. I need help, really want to play please and thank you

@Wipqozn You must be such a disappointment to your parents.
@murgatroid99 Eh, fair enough I guess
20:59
@Wipqozn urmom plays pokemon go
cc @Wipqozn on that sick burn

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