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18:00
@badp YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CONVINCE ME WITH IRREFUTABLE LOGIC AND ARGUMENTS, NOT MAKING SHIT UP!
$20 of that is having skins that @Unionhawk cannot and will never have
So he knows that I am better than he is
Daredevil 76 is cooler than Strike Commander Morrison
Way cooler
So
Nice skin. For a clown.
@twobugs See, that would have been a compelling argument before
@twobugs It shows my account as "UPGRADE AVAILIBLE" except I'd have to pay full price on origins and screw that
18:01
40 $usd = 52.28 $cad :/
@Chippies WELL IT IS IRREFUTABLE THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THE GAME IS GOING TO GET SUPPORTED GOING FORWARD, DESPITE BLIZZARD'S VERY GOOD HISTORY IN THIS REGARD
@Unionhawk what? how is that an upgrade?
@Chippies It isn't, though I assume it wouldn't take up a second slot in my account
@badp but statistics and confirmation bias
or something
18:02
I've never done their digital upgrade thing. I think it's supposed to only charge the difference
if you already knew the future, you'd know that you would have bought overwatch anyway since you have reached the point where you need to be talked out of it
but do you already know the future
you do not
If that is the case this is potentially tempting
@twobugs I believe that's how it works, but can't confirm
18:02
Just to show @twobugs
I will have made you spend $20, which means I still win
you're giving the talking out thing a chance
because you do not know
Goddammit
@badp honestly, this is more of a "talk me into buying it, but please don't" kind of thing
Since $20 is significantly more of your income than mine
18:02
Hmm
You Lose
@twobugs That is true, but I do have an income now starting... Friday?
I hope?
I am kinda on the fence with it with long term fun on one side and 52$cad on the other
Gotta get down on Friday
anyway the game and the community is never going to be more active than it is now, since the release craze will eventually die out
18:03
Like, as in, first paycheck in on Friday I think
you have decided to skip the craze so far
@badp Eh, I dunno about that. Communities ebb and flow
OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY LOGICAL THING IS TO AMPLIFY YOUR INVESTMENT AND CONTINUE SKIPPING
@badp I don't like the craze/hype
@Chippies so why would you be part of it
18:04
It is a fun game, if you are into team based shooters with multiple roles
and tbh, Diablo 3 only got more popular after many many updates
If you are, then I strongly recommend getting it
If you aren't, then ehh
@badp it looks fun and everyone is doing it :(
@Chippies people who are doing it say that are doing it
the only one who was loud about not doing it was me, because I'm @badp and that's what I Do
and @twobugs cannot bugp the badp
@Unionhawk I haven't really got much experience with the genre tbh, wasn't a huge fan of TF2, but the classes in Overwatch seem a lot more fun
18:05
There's a lot more variety, yeah
More than one supporting role, for me
and I also don't like doing team based activities with strangers
is voice chat mandatory to be any good at the game?
I think the heroes in Overwatch work a lot better than the TF2 classes, at least IMO
Ever since they started adding loadout options in TF2 it started to dilute the class identity to me
@Chippies Not really, we have ended up with a full party anyway the last 2 days
Heroes all have lots of personality
@twobugs Blizzard seems to be pretty good at that
18:06
@Chippies Every time I've launched the game in the past two days at least one group of my friends has been playing
do people rage when you suck?
Not really
People rage but it's very easy to ignore them
Chat is very minor
Some clown got salty at me for not healing him all the time
is there any sense of progression between the games? achievements maybe?
18:08
Yes
You get levels and there are achievements
Achievements and cosmetic unlocks
Levels lead to boxes lead to cosmetics
There's a ranked mode which opens up Soon
But is optional
ugh, I guess I'll have to watch some reviews and hype myself up
18:09
does Blizzard allow refunds
Sometimes if you directly contact support, I think
considering it's a buy2play game, I doubt I will ever care for a refund
People had some success getting the latest WoW expansion refunded. Probably Diablo 3 as well
it doesn't look like it's that shitty and if I can log into it and play a match every once in a while, it's probably worth it
I wish there was a trial version or something though
There was, it was the open beta!
18:12
@twobugs it lasted couple days, every one of which I had to work
and I wasn't in the mood for it at the time tbh
It lasted like a week :P
WoW has a trial, Diablo 3 has a trial, even SC2 has a trial afaik
I mean, it'd be nice if it had a trial
I played WoW for an hour before I subscribed and I didn't feel bad about it
I guess I can't really think of another game like this which has a similar trial
TF2 is free but it's monetized in other ways
18:13
if I could play Overwatch for an hour and get hooked, spending the amount of cash all at once wouldn't feel as bad
CoD games typically only have free 'events'
I'm assuming 21:9 is still not supported by Overwatch?
No clue
ohhh I remember when you talked about that re: Diablo 3
and how they considered 21:9 "cheating"
that was fun
That's very silly
18:17
@badp it does "support" 21:9 in Diablo 3 though by going in windowed borderless (I got it working after, something was borked at the time)
does Overwatch have borderless window mode? It'd be funny if it supported it that way
@Chippies believe so, i think that is what i have it set to
I think so
It supports borderless window
huh, supposedly it supported 21:9 in closed beta
if that's true then that's fucked
18:22
ugh Reddit... pretty much everyone says it doesn't support 21:9 and then there's a couple that says it works in 21:9, even though not officially supported
@GnomeSlice why what?
why is that fuct lol
@Chippies isn't that the situation in Diablo 3
because removing a working function from a game is totally backwards
"but it's cheating"
@badp well, last I tried it (couple months ago), they still hadn't removed the ability to play in proper 21:9 by using windowed borderless
18:24
@Chippies tbf it probably makes more of a difference in a first person perspective game
so either they backed away from that decision or just haven't put any effort in fulfilling it
@badp they added 21:9 support to HoTS, which imho is even more of an advantage than it is in an FPS
I doubt Overwatch lets you jack up the FOV to 120
but I could be wrong
360 fov or worst game
for whatever reason, I'm now imagining how crazy it would be to run 360 fov with a VR headset
maximum overnausea
yoho!!
18:28
supposedly Overwatch has added a fov slider, but holy shit this is ignorant
That was over a year ago :P
@twobugs yeah, but that doesn't make it any less ignorant :P
we don't want to create a situation where your ability to see changes the game between Haves and Have Nots
I might just rage quit DS2 :/
18:33
I don't know if "ignorant" is the right word
It was a poor argument though and they were taken to task
/shrug
this is why the game runs at a resolution of 3×4 at 4 tints of grayscale, which is only slightly better than what you can see when you have vision but your eyelids are permanently closed
Someone was wrong on the internet!
the funny thing is that people commenting on that post are saying how without an fov slider, people with wider screens have an advantage, so they gave people an fov slider and removed ultrawide support
GG
also some people report being unable to see more than 24 frames per second
@twobugs maybe not, but having a wider fov is not that big of an advantage compared to, for example, running the game at 100+ fps compared to sub-30 fps (i.e having an expensive gpu)
or having a good mouse vs cheap throwaway mouse
18:35
I'm not defending it
there's a lot of things that could be considered an advantage
and singling out the fov is pretty dumb
I mean we're deriding it but that's what that other thing did
I wonder why 21:9 support is absent from the release. They probably had some reason for doing so
anyways, it just shows that 1) blizzard isn't very reliable on their "promises" and 2) maybe they actually listen to the players, considering that (supposedly) they have added the fov slider
@twobugs proper support requires plenty of UI reworking
that other thing with the sequel thing and the lore website and it's not called Unity, stupid brain
and the transgender king thing
18:37
many games with 21:9 support have glitchy UI around the sides
some games stretch the UI, which is worse
I think saying they're not reliable with promises because they changed a game in development is kinda missing the point
Is listening to fan feedback bad?
@twobugs I didn't say it was bad, but it's not the first time they say they won't do something because it's an unfair advantage and then they do it anyway
Because their logic was shown to be faulty
There's nothing wrong with admitting you're wrong
I'm just saying that whatever they say they will or won't do isn't set in stone, depending on, perhaps, customer feedback
I'm not saying you're wrong in this case, I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with Blizzard changing their stance because of good feedback
18:40
IOW you should get the game in order to rally people to give overwatch minisentries all of the hitpoints, and drink all of the delicious tears afterwards
I didn't say it's bad, it's good
@Unionhawk is already on board
my point is that whatever they say isn't set in stone
they tend to say "no, we will absolutely not implement this thing" and then a year later they do anyway
@badp No because their advantage is you get to put down 6 of them not they have 100 health
And you can put them in clever spots
18:41
And that 65+65+65<100
luckily, they do seem to listen to customer feedback
@Unionhawk but do they self destruct after 3 kills each
Oh this is a TF2 analogy or something
They don't get kills they distract and slow guys down
I see
18:42
65+65+65<100 is a TF2 thing yes.
I don't know what that is supposed to mean
@twobugs There was a time where mini sentries building in progress would regenerate health the whole time they built
Ster hit a minisentry (maximum hitpoints 100) for 65 damage three times
the minisentry didn't die
because of what @Unionhawk said
So you could do 3 melee attacks at 65 damage and not kill it
18:43
i remember when achivement guides were good
Because math
they actually told you HOW to get the stuff
not just what you need to do
@Unionhawk Haha
TF2 is perfect and does all the things
TF2 IS JQUERY: DATA ACCEPTED
18:48
guys, are you sure Overwatch has an fov slider?
I don't know
I'm watching this on my 21:9 monitor in fullscreen and it's slightly nauseating with the low fov...
seem to be plenty of year old articles about it having the fov slider
/cc @KevinvanderVelden
OR MAYBE HE IS TOO BUSY PLAYING OVERWATCH TO SEE THE PING
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@badp I am actually reading a book
@Chippies it does
I have tweaked it
@KevinvanderVelden is it about dragons
18:53
It's about supervillains and blowing up the moon
do they use dragons to blow the moon
nice
Unfortunately no, at least I think not
damn
are the bombs made of dragons
18:54
27 secs ago, by Unionhawk
yes
They haven't blown up the moon yet, but then I'm only halfway
nice
damn
spoiler alert
@KevinvanderVelden I just watched an old beta video of the slider being changed, it seemed pretty low even on max settings, but there were no actual numbers indicating what fov it is at. Do you find the fov good and are you somewhat sensitive to low fov in fps's?
@SaintWacko hey, how did the all-employee meeting thingy go?
18:54
@ardaozkal Didn't find out any more information for now
They said they'll have more information in a couple weeks
@Chippies it has a max of 103 on 16:10, I don't know if it changes at other widths
It's been a while since I did Visual Studio, nice to get back into it
@KevinvanderVelden that seems reasonable. Does it actually show the number now? The video I watched just had a slider with no numbers
@SaintWacko your job sounds way too much like game of thrones
18:55
neat, thanks

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