The Bridge

Chippies

15:00

@Sterno eventually you learn to ignore enemies between bonfire and boss, so you usually don't earn souls, unless the dumb creatures jump off ledges and die

two bugs

DS2 is designed for you to level up all the damn time which is nice but also annoying

Also they made rolling and estus flasks suck until you invest points in ADP

MadMAxJr

I don't get why I have to go back to Majula to level.

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(But they eventually get better than DS1/Demon's, IIRC)

MadMAxJr

But I like having teleport out of the gate.

Sterno

I hate teleport.

MadMAxJr

15:01

Thanks Grouchy Smurf.

two bugs

The teleport is nice. I don't really like how in 1 it takes so long to unlock and even then it's limited

Yuuki

@MadMAxJr I thought Vitality was just reskinned Resistance.

Sterno

It takes away the feeling that you may have overextended yourself and have a hard time getting back out of the terrible place you ventured into

two bugs

You can probably reach a good middle ground somewhere but meh

Yuuki

Or Adaptability is.

MadMAxJr

15:01

Well in DS2 the map isn't a twisty maze. It's more like CHOOSE YOUR ADVENTURE FROM ANY ONE OF THESE FIVE PATHS

Yuuki

I wish they put a bit more effort in making a sensible world map.

two bugs

@Sterno I don't think this would work well in 2 unless they changed several mechanics

Sterno

@twobugs Yeah. Too many dead ends.

two bugs

The world map stuff doesn't bother me because I never really bought into Souls lore

MadMAxJr

Despite the simple layout, I find the art amazing.

Private Pansy

15:02

This is currently going viral on Facebook in Singapore

Chippies

I think the world map in DS1 is the most amazing world map I have seen in a videogame

Private Pansy

Possibly the world's worst wedding photographer - facebook.com/jaclynyjy/albums/10153623323097099

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@Chippies I never really understood this either, but too each their own :P

MadMAxJr

Also I walked out into the Heide's Tower area and I had to squint, because that looks an awful lot like Anor Londo.

Sterno

I honestly don't know why you level up with the Emerald Herald or whatever instead of a bonfire, though. Why make you warp?

Private Pansy

15:03

(On imgur if you can't log into Facebook imgur.com/a/4PPME)

Chippies

@twobugs it's just amazing how it's all connected without really feeling like any part of the map is a filler

MadMAxJr

Yeah, I just wanna level up and get back to business, not go back to Majula for everything.

two bugs

@Sterno I think they wanted it to be like Demon's is the best answer

But that game had a different style real so it doesn't work as well

Chippies

sure, it's a maze and it's a pain to navigate, but it amazes me how it's all in one piece

Private Pansy

If only @spugsley was here to share the cringe

MadMAxJr

15:04

Though I really do enjoy the view from the fire up toward Things Betwixt.

Chippies

except a couple areas

two bugs

Plus the Maiden In Black is way better than the Emerald Herald

Ronan

@Chippies It's also cool that all the background you see is actually a place.

two bugs

@PrivatePansy Oh god the blue filter photo

Also it's like the photographer went out of their way to find people making the worst possible expressions

GodEmperorDune

@fredley ok i'll give much better cc messages now

two bugs

15:05

Or shot them in horrible lighting. Or both

Chippies

@PrivatePansy that first photo - did someone puke all over the bride's dress?

two bugs

@GodEmperorDune I had a burrito at Qdoba in your honor. It was pretty good

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy ... For some reason, I'm getting the feeling that they colorized the wrong part of this photo.

Fluttershy

@Yuuki Let me get your opinion here... I have Four Kings, Nito, and Seath left. Nito dies tonight, and possibly Seath. But I can't decide if I want to do the DLC before the Sif fight, so I haven't done anything there yet, and won't until I decide. What would you do?

MadMAxJr

I can't believe I missed the Drangelic Armor for so dang long.

GodEmperorDune

15:06

@twobugs yeah because qdoba is great

two bugs

The groom looks like a murderer in the blue photo

MadMAxJr

Went back to where The Pursuer was, saw the little glimmer. Oh man where has this medium armor been my whole life.

Yuuki

@Fluttershy Well, I'm planning on doing the DLC before Sif.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki I just noticed the bad Photoshopping of the pagoda into the bride's dress

Oh god it's killing me

two bugs

@GodEmperorDune The actual ingredients aren't as good as Chipotle but Qdoba lets me add queso which is amazing

MadMAxJr

15:06

@Yuuki Have fun with Artorias. I gave up. It's an amazing fight, but that crouch-leap-AOE slam is frustrating

two bugs

Also I'm much less likely to get e. coli from Qdoba!

SaintWacko

@twobugs Plus they have that delicious chipotle cream sauce

Fluttershy

@Yuuki I probably should too... But the thought of fighting Manus again is daunting.

MadMAxJr

You can cheese Manus with about 200 arrows. :D

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs all good points

Private Pansy

15:07

Is it photoshopped? I can't even tell

Yuuki

The DLC is my main driver. It's the part of the game that I haven't done.

GodEmperorDune

i just wish they had a location closer to me

Sterno

We need the opinion of an expert on this. cc @spugsley RIP @spugsley

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GodEmperorDune

@Sterno @spugsley pls

Fluttershy

@Yuuki I'm to the point now that I've done everything except Gwyn, so I'm conflicted.

Wipqozn

15:09

New CGPGrey video

cc @MBraedley

MadMAxJr

The DS1 DLC is beautiful stuff. I felt bad fighting the scarecrows once I saw some of them simply tending to bushes and trees before my aggro pulled them

Wipqozn

I miss @spugsley

Yuuki

New Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them trailer

MBraedley

@Wipqozn The first few seconds are... interesting

MadMAxJr

i.imgur.com/VAFiDwv.gifv

MBraedley

15:10

I get the feeling that the entire video is going to be like that

MadMAxJr

That accurately summarizes my first trip into Sens Fortress

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno are we talking about punching babies?

Yuuki

Oh hey, they made Apparition actually look like Apparition this time.

SaintWacko

@MadMAxJr Hahaha

MadMAxJr

I was rather upset when I found out the giant that operates the Temple of Doom device is over on a platform you can't reach.

You can shoot him, but he respawns.

Wipqozn

15:12

@MBraedley No sir. Just keep watching.

Yuuki

@MadMAxJr You can reach it actually.

MadMAxJr

Does it take a leap of faith or something?

Yuuki

Make a running jump from the T-junction.

@MadMAxJr Yeah.

Wipqozn

@MadMAxJr That's Dark souls, baby1

MBraedley

@Wipqozn I skipped ahead, you're lying. Unless there's a short bit in the middle

Wipqozn

15:13

@MBraedley I never lie!

Sterno

@Wipqozn 8 hours

MadMAxJr

The girlfriend watched me do Sens Fortress. She has played before. She just had this big grin the whole time I ventured in. Eventually she was my 'tell' for when something awful was up ahead.

She was kind enough to interupt me and flat out tell me where the bonfire was. That saved my sanity.

ardaozkal

amazon.com/Amazon-PW3840KL-Tap/dp/…

I wonder bridge's opinion on this

I don't think that it'll sell that well. (Most phones can do the voice commands thingy, the biggest selling point of that imo is that it is a wireless speaker, but there are many cheaper ones)

Ronan

@Yuuki Colour me intrigued.

Wipqozn

@Sterno I hate you so much. Maybe I should just buy a digital copy.

no gosh darn it, I can wait. I'll still beat it before you.

In fact, it's only fair I give you a head start.

Yuuki

15:16

@Ronan Apparently some time between the 1920s and 2000, Apparition turned from actually point-to-point teleportation to weird spooky ghost travel.

MadMAxJr

I'll be so happy if one of you ends up invading the other.

Wipqozn

an old guy like you needs a handicap

@MadMAxJr I would be too, but it won't happen. I'm getting it on PS4, @Sterno is getting it on PC.

two bugs

@MadMAxJr I don't think that can happen since @Wipqozn is a console peasant

Ronan

@Yuuki I don't know enough of the lore to comment.

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@Sterno and myself are both on PC

Wipqozn

15:17

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Teaser Trailer [HD]

►

Yuuki

@Ronan I'm just making a comment on the main series of films.

Wipqozn

I'm aware it's a day old, but gosh darn it

badp

that moment when you attach a function to a checbox, and the checkbox takes a while to become checked

Wipqozn

@twobugs Cooool

I'm console peasanting it up

MadMAxJr

Aww.

two bugs

15:17

I don't even have enough space on my SSD to preload though

Wipqozn

@MadMAxJr Souls is the only game where I always go console

two bugs

I don't know what to delete to make room

badp

and then you run the profiler, and realize the browser took 0.3 seconds to do all the processing

Private Pansy

@badp Are you doing some heavy processing on the click handler?

badp

but my click handler only took 30ms to run

two bugs

15:18

Man it better have Xbox One controller support on PC (some games support 360 but not One controllers, which is really dumb)

badp

and I don't know what the hell is happening in the other 270ms

two bugs

@badp That's the processes' union mandated break

badp

also the slowest thing in my click handler somehow is text()

Private Pansy

Is it reproducible? Are there any handlers on the chain of parent elements?

badp

not the four or so loops I have

it's reproducibly slow

MadMAxJr

15:19

Steam: Hey. Hey Max. Steam Controller works with DS3! Max: Go away Steam, I bought your thing and I still don't believe in your dual trackpads.

Wipqozn

@twobugs Delete @badp

Private Pansy

@badp The DOM can be stupidly slow

MadMAxJr

Jeez steam, just leave me and my Logitech F310 alone.

Ronan

@Yuuki It's been too long for me to remember.

Private Pansy

Wanna share some code?

Chippies

15:19

@ardaozkal it doesn't need to be connected to anything to stream (besides wi-fi)

two bugs

@PrivatePansy Man this sounds like you're trying to do something illicit

Private Pansy

@badp What is it registering as on the profiler?

badp

@PrivatePansy I don't know how much I can, and again, the code only accounts for 10% of the time.

ardaozkal

@Chippies neither does your phone.

Private Pansy

@badp That doesn't make any sense - if the profiler records 270ms, it has to be 270ms of something, right?

two bugs

15:20

Like you're some guy in a shady alley trying to get @badp to try some ILLEGAL DRUGS

Chippies

@ardaozkal yeah, but my phone doesn't have a nice big speaker, so what is your point?

badp

so we have

Kevin van der Velden

@ardaozkal that thing is always listening for the trigger phrase. You can be pretty much anywhere in the room and use it

Chippies

my point is that with any other BT speaker you need to connect a phone to it to stream music

Wipqozn

In other news

Fluttershy

15:21

Hmm... If I skip the DLC, I might actually be able to beat Dark Souls tonight.

Kevin van der Velden

By just saying things, instead of first getting your phone, unlocking it, pressing the button, etc

Private Pansy

@twobugs psst, hey kid, want some... semi-optimal solution to the travelling salesmen problem?

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy If you already did the DLC once then I don't see any harm ins kipping it

I promise I won't call you a coward.

ardaozkal

@Chippies exactly what I said. Biggest selling point is that it is a huge speaker. and just saw your other message, yeah, that feature might be useful at home.

badp

7ms Composite Layers
45ms Hit Test
22ms Hit Test
115ms Event (click)
- 51ms Function Call (jQuery)
- 30ms my function call
- 30ms onloadwff.js
- 25ms again jQuery
62ms update layer tree
34ms paint

Fluttershy

15:22

@Wipqozn I did do it once. Killing Artorias with a Greatsword was absolutely awful.

Same with Manus. They're just so fast

badp

almost all of it under a "long frame"

Chippies

@ardaozkal the other message wasn't mine :P But my point is that you don't need a middleman to play music. It's not just a speaker, it's also a player

Private Pansy

Are there a lot of checkboxes?

two bugs

@PrivatePansy "Here kid. This is called jQuery. It'll solve all your problems. First hit is on the house."

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MadMAxJr

I wonder if Dragonslayer will be back a third time.

ardaozkal

15:23

2 mins ago, by Chippies

my point is that with any other BT speaker you need to connect a phone to it to stream music

badp

In this particular instance, yes.

Fluttershy

The only reason I'd do the DLC this time around would be for the extra Sif stuff when I go to get the ring for four kings.

Private Pansy

Have you tried delegating?

ardaozkal

I meant that message.

badp

Let me try again with a dozen or so

Wipqozn

15:24

@Fluttershy I did the DLC with a magic build. I'll probably play the game again someday, and do DLC with not magic.

Chippies

@ardaozkal well, that was just a summary of my earlier comment :P

Private Pansy

Also, try using input event instead of click

MadMAxJr

I had a moment of panic when I followed my world host across the drawbridge and we took on the dragonslayer. I assumed there would also be an executioner.

Chippies

@ardaozkal it's also #1 seller in outdoor speakers, so obviously it's selling just fine

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Manus seems like he'd be horrible to do with melee

fredley

15:25

@PrivatePansy As in getting someone else to solve the problem?

badp

with a dozen checkboxes times go down to 57ms total 3ms my code

Wipqozn

He was bad enough with magic

They've supposedly balaned magic a lot better this time around. Some seem to be complaining it's way too weak though, but also people. I remember people used t o say agility was useless when souls 2 came out, but now it's all "best stat"

Private Pansy

@fredley No, as in use on(event, selector, handler) handler

fredley

@PrivatePansy My way sounds better

I think I'm going to delegate my jQuery issues to @PrivatePansy now

Private Pansy

@badp Try delegating, and switch to using input event

Chippies

15:26

@fredley seems to me like he already has delegated the problem to someone else and now is just following their instructions

Yuuki

> Ordered sushi on the way home - one regular roll and two hand rolls. Walk in to pick it up, the cashier looks at me and takes the second set of chopsticks out of the bag.

Private Pansy

By delegating, you attach the event handler to the parent instead of the individual elements, so you have just one event handler to handle all of the checkboxes

Instead of attaching an event for every checkbox

fredley

@Yuuki brutal

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@Wipqozn I think AGI just appears useless at the start but it clearly is amazing after a few points

Since it buffs up your dodging and estus flask drinking

badp

@PrivatePansy so I should just make it an input event on the whole table?

MadMAxJr

15:27

Still trying to figure out WTF 'Adaptability' is in DS2

badp

(there's unsurprisingly a checkbox per row in this table)

Private Pansy

Yes, if that is the lowest common ancestor of all of the checkboxes

$('table').on('input', 'input[type="checkbox"]', function(){ ... });

two bugs

@MadMAxJr Strong defensive stat

I recommend getting it to 15-20ish

Yuuki

@twobugs Always put a few points into Adaptability and Attunement. Not only does ADP give you bonus iframes, the two together also increase your resists.

two bugs

That'll make rolling and drinking MUCH better

Yuuki

15:29

> Agility
Poison ATK bonus
Poison resist
Bleed resist
Petrify resist
Curse resist
Poise

two bugs

Plus, as @Yuuki noted, bonus resistances

Yuuki

Poise is also very key.

Private Pansy

input event is also important because checkboxes can have their states changed not only via clicking

two bugs

Super armor best armor

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn He was terrible. I also didn't have the silver talisman, so I couldn't really avoid the magic damage either.

MadMAxJr

15:30

Ooof.

I left it at 5.

I needed STR 20, DEX 18 to use my winged spear so I shot for that first.

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy keyboard input best input

MadMAxJr

VIT/END are up around 15 now...

Just took INT to 10 because it turns out fire damage scales on that now...

badp

well keyboard input still did trigger click events

maybe touch would be specialer?

MadMAxJr

I just have to get my damn pyromancy hand from the double-jerk in the boat boss.

Private Pansy

@badp I think that might be jQuery

@badp No, touch events also trigger click

two bugs

15:31

@MadMAxJr Hahahahaha I hope you like him

You might be encountering him again!

MadMAxJr

I already did the one down in front of the lost soul

I'm glad I co-op'd the lost soul and saw that you need to light the oil fires to light up the room.

two bugs

I did it without the fires but everyone says they're nice to have

MadMAxJr

For most bosses it looks like you just wait for some slow heavy combo in 3s or 4s, then you strike.

two bugs

Honestly what kept screwing me up I think was having crappy weapons and ADP. Once switched weapons it was a lot easier

Plus I had success trapping her against a wall so that I could prevent the dodge

MadMAxJr

What's ADP short for again?

two bugs

15:37

Adaptability

It and attunement are definitely worth a few points (maybe not before your weapons)

Private Pansy

Hmmm, no - browsers themselves shim input on checkboxes as click events

MadMAxJr

I put enough in attunement to get 3 slots because I planned for pyromancy as backup.

Private Pansy

This works on Firefox at least with addEventListener

two bugs

@MadMAxJr What's your Agility at?

MadMAxJr

Also, the fire longsword I got from the giants forest is surprisingly effective against tons of stuff.

two bugs

15:39

You probably want at least 95

Elemental weapons are very good

MadMAxJr

.... What?

95?

two bugs

Agility is a stat on your character sheet

badp

I think the disbelief is at the 95 bit

MadMAxJr

Oh it's not one I dump points into, it's a calculated stat?

two bugs

It starts at an arbitrary number and will increase in other arbitrary ways

MadMAxJr

15:39

Because I'm not buying 95 of anything

two bugs

@MadMAxJr Yeah, it's derived

It starts at 80 because well, you see

MadMAxJr

I have no idea what that is right now

two bugs

That's what governs rolling and drinking

MadMAxJr

I am somewhat pondering if I want to dump a few more points to try out the grand lance.

two bugs

Adaptability and Attunement are basically the two ways to raise it

MadMAxJr

15:40

Lances seem like shorter, more hurty spears

Fluttershy

I wish I was home, beating Dark Souls or playing Battleborn.

MadMAxJr

Oh is Battleborn out?

I had fun with that in the closed beta.

Fluttershy

@MadMAxJr it's in open beta on consoles right now. PC starts Wednesday.

MadMAxJr

Is it still just the Moba map and the one quest against the robot spider?

Unionhawk

Ugh this class

>_>

Kevin van der Velden

15:47

Is it !!FUN!!?

Unionhawk

No

badp

how couldn't it be

two bugs

Ah, so it's !FUN

Unionhawk

It is a 200 level class I'm bored

Speaking of, have I told you I have to take communications 100 as a 5th year?

badp

$ git rebase --continue
yo, merge conflict
$ git mergetool
$

one of the scariest sights

Unionhawk

15:50

Oh yeah, I finally did that thing for our main java project for a class

fredley

@badp You're one of the scariest sights

badp

@fredley I am not quite as scary handsome as @Wipqozn

fredley

@badp scandsome

badp

scandalous

fredley

@badp scandilicious

GodEmperorDune

15:53

scanned delicious?

fredley

scandinavian

Lazers 2.0

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Q: using Fierce Deity Armor as a Budding Hero in the Coluseum

According to http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_Master_Suit , "while in possession of [the sword master suit], Link cannot enter the Coliseum as a 'Budding Hero'". What about the Fierce Deity Armor? Can you enter the Coliseum as a "Budding Hero" with that?

zelda-tri-force-heroes

Sterno

@Wipqozn 7 hours.

MadMAxJr

@Sterno Only six here!

Fluttershy

@MadMAxJr Nah. There's another game type, and a few more story missions.

Unionhawk

15:58

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