The Bridge

Sterno

19:02

@Fluttershy I've never wanted a taco salad more in my entire life.

Frank

@Sterno I'm making some this weekend!

Sterno

I think I'm actually having some tonight, now that I think of it! My wife was planning on make that. SCORE

Of course, my taco salad will be wrapped in delicious tortilla shells, and is more traditionally known as "tacos", but I'll take it

Frank

@Sterno Doritos Nachos as the bed is best salad.

Unionhawk

Oh no @Frank and @Sterno agree on taco salad. SOUND THE ALARMS

Sterno

That sounds terrible but I'll withhold judgment until I try it

But I fully expect to disagree with @fbueckert about tacos, too

Unionhawk

19:09

Oh good

NEVERMIND I THINK WE'RE GOOD

GOOD ENOUGH, ANYWAY

Sterno

You're talking about the Nacho flavored ones, right?

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk urmom is good enough, anyway

Frank

@Sterno Yes.

But then, I like my food cheesy.

So, to each their own.

Sterno

I like my food cheesy, but that's not cheese!

Still, I could see it maybe working. Maybe.

Unionhawk

Hmm

Sterno

19:13

This sounds suspiciously like a Lifehack

Unionhawk

I mean, Taco Bell made a dorritos taco

GnomeSlice

fajitas > tacos

Unionhawk

So a dorritos taco salad is either the precursor or the next logical conclusion

Frank

@Sterno Pfft.

GnomeSlice

there's only one r in Doritos™

Frank

19:15

That's how you make taco salad.

Not a lifehack at all.

Sterno

I can't trust the opinion of someone who like poutine.

Frank

Come live in -40 weather, and decide poutine doesn't work.

GnomeSlice

I don't like poutine that much

I bet you pronounce it wrong though

Dragonrage

hello @Noctrine, i dont think ive seen you around before

Unionhawk

Hold on, wait a minute, what

Is poutine more tasty in the cold for some reason?

Frank

19:19

@Unionhawk It's heavy. Very heavy.

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice you put the pout in poutine

Noctrine

@Dragonrage I'm a habitual lurker.

Dragonrage

@Frank is that in Fahrenheit or Celsius?

GodEmperorDune

@Noctrine well hi @modlurker

Frank

@Dragonrage It doesn't matter. :P

Fluttershy

19:20

@Unionhawk About rolls being thrown at your head? Yes.

GnomeSlice

@Unionhawk No

Plus you dont eat outside when it's -40 anyway

Dragonrage

@Frank thatsthejoke.png

@Noctrine so does that mean i have finally exposed you?

Noctrine

@Dragonrage Depending on your perspective. I used to be around more before becoming a mod (before gamedev was a site) and the bridge has been in my favorite (autojoin) channels list forever.

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice "It's pronounced yay-roc, randees"

Noctrine

Something just caused me to get signed out :p

Dragonrage

19:24

@Noctrine i dont think the bridge has been around for forever, but welcome back

Unionhawk

@GnomeSlice I mean, I feel like @Frank might just to prove how much more Canadian he is than all the Americans in the room, that is to say 100% more

By definition

Dragonrage

something something movie night, something something April 2?

Noctrine

@Dragonrage Well at least 2010 - chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/35?m=40091#40091

Unionhawk

In fact, exactly 2010 since 1 day earlier is the first day of The Bridge

Dragonrage

@Noctrine july 14, 2010

apparently the first person to post a message here was a @Downvoter

Unionhawk

19:29

Which makes July 14 both Republic Day in Iraq and Bridge Day (and probably "first day of SE chat") on SE

Noctrine

Yeah, before that it was chat.meta.so (now chat.meta.se)

Dragonrage

On July 14, 2010, the world was forever changed.

MBraedley

SNES Code Injection -- Flappy Bird in SMW

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4

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley this is so much better than when @uni posted it

Dragonrage

4 hours ago, by Unionhawk

SNES Code Injection -- Flappy Bird in SMW

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GodEmperorDune

19:35

20 secs ago, by GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley this is so much better than when @uni posted it

Wipqozn

@Sterno I cried. all day.

MBraedley

Not starred, wasn't in the currently loaded chat messages, therefore doesn't exist

Dragonrage

Remember, if you want a message starred, repost something that someone else has already posted.

Wipqozn

Also, I'm definitely going deprived now. Getting hyped for starting with nothing and seeing how it goes.

SaintWacko

Remember, if you want a message starred, repost something that someone else has already posted.

Unionhawk

19:37

I suppose my correct course of action is to sit and say nothing so you all think I care?

Dragonrage

@SaintWacko if you give it like a 4 hour window, it works better

Unionhawk

I mean

Lazers 2.0

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Q: on minecraft i pressed F3 for the xyz co-ordinates but didnt work any ideas how to get them up

I have also tried the fn+f3 still didn't work. I also don't have a fn lock key any ideas on how to get the co-ordinates up

minecraft

Sterno

@GnomeSlice Is not "Poo-teen"? Because that might explain why it sounds so unappetizing to me

Unionhawk

I thought that was it

two bugs

19:39

Man. Bound by Flame is cool but I hate talking to NPCs when there is no "advance dialogue" option (or if there is I don't know the keybinding)

They talk so slowly!

Sterno

@twobugs You know what's better than that game I've never heard of until today and know nothing about? Dark Souls 2. You should totally go back to that.

two bugs

Hm...

You might be right

Sterno

Man, games need to stop thinking that they all need a crafting system.

two bugs

People really life crafting systems. They can be okay in some games but just dumb in others

I don't think it really helped Fallout 4 IMO

GodEmperorDune

the crafting system in factorio is great

when are you going to stream it @twobugs?

two bugs

19:43

Which game? I'll stream later tonight I think. Headed to the gym soon

SaintWacko

You know what really needs a crafting system? Cities: Skylines

Sterno

> It is at least interesting though, partly because of itself and partly despite. Imagine your fourteen-year old self writing something like The Witcher 2, and you’ll likely have a feel for how it all plays out, from a soldier main character far more devoted to snark than world saving, and NPC companions like The Knight Who Talks In The Third Person and Boobs the Witch.

Sold!

two bugs

Yeah, it's silly. It's a pretty neat lower budget game and it's by a studio I really like so /shrug

Sterno

> So much player dialogue is given over to lines like “Hey, did anybody see what I just did to that huge fucking monster? I mean, seriously? I fried that thing! I saved our asses, and you’re all just, ‘Hey, what’s for lunch?'” These are actual words said by our hero, a veteran soldier in the middle of a brutal war against the living dead.

STILL SOLD

No, seriously, I'm cool with that second quote. That one's a positive for me

Dragonrage

@Sterno what game is that?

two bugs

19:47

@Dragonrage Bound by Flame

Unionhawk

Hahahahahaha twitch chat recording is great

You get to see chat freak out in real time

GodEmperorDune

> you need two turnips in heat

> no ricky, the expression is to "turn up the heat"

Lazers 2.0

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Q: I downloaded forge and it wants me to open it in a app

i got a new computer and tried downloading forge. it downloads and then asks how i would like to open this file via notepad, internet explorer, winrar and many other apps, i am on a alienware 17 with windows ten.

minecraft

Dragonrage

@Lazers2.0 do you even computer?

murgatroid99

20:09

@Lazers2.0 Doesn't forge have instructions so that people don't end up in this state?

And I realized halfway through typing that that I actually expect people to read instructions for things they want to use

Unionhawk

It does yes, in fact these days it's an installer iirc

Yeah, there's an installer

SaintWacko

Yep

I just installed it the other day

It's ridiculously easy

Unionhawk

It's a fucking exe

Are you serious

Back in my day

shakes cane

Frank

18 Minutes of Metroid Prime: Federation Force Gameplay (Full Mission - Direct Feed)

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Yuuki

I use MultiMC and there's literally a button just for installing Forge.

Lazers 2.0

20:24

2

Q: Why can't I use a Robot Workbench at Boston Airport Ruins? [Automatron]

Last weekend, after running through the Automatron DLC, I discovered the Boston Airport Ruins location in Fallout 4 and built a Robot Workbench there. However, after building it (and leaving Workshop Mode), I found that of the two options, Build (A button on Xbox) and Transfer (X button), only T...

fallout-4

Sterno

Well, I got up to level 25 in The Division before getting bored and (apparently) stopping playing it

I should probably power through the last few hours so that I can say I "beat" it.

But bleh

Arperum

20:37

@badp keeper megasatan is waaaay easier than lost megasatan. fuck getting angelrooms forever.

Dan Henderson

So I have a question. I don't think it's a good question for the site (mainly because there's probably no good SE-format answer), but I'd like to discuss it with SE-type people.

And it's been asked before - in a form, but I have a different take. So here goes...

"Why can't I download the downloadable games that I bought on my PS3, onto my new PS4?" Now, I know a common answer to this is about "backwards-compatibility" - the PS4 doesn't have quite enough processing power to emulate a PS3 (and they didn't throw the necessary hardware in there to enable it). But I'm not talking about emulating PS3 software.

I'm talking about when there already exists a downloadable PS4 version of the same game.

Frank

@DanHenderson Because Sony said so.

Chippies

@DanHenderson so, you're asking why can't you download this ps4 game?

or why can't you download a ps3 game that also happens to have a ps4 version?

Frank

Not sure what you're expecting us to say; you bought one version.

Sterno

You mean something like "I had Diablo 3 digital for PS3, so why won't they give me the PS4 version on my PS4"?

Dan Henderson

20:45

In other words, I have bought a PS3 game through the PSN, so I ought to also be able to download the PS4 one

Frank

You didn't buy the PS4 one.

Chippies

@DanHenderson well, you bought one version instead of the other. That's all there is to it

Yuuki

@DanHenderson From your point of view, they're the same game. From Sony's point of view, they're not the same game.

Sterno

It would certainly be cool if they did that. As for why they don't, I'm guessing the answer is "they want to make more money".

Yuuki

The difference is that the latter makes more money for Sony.

Dan Henderson

20:46

@Sterno this.

Chippies

@Yuuki and sometimes (most of the time) it's not the same game in the sense that it's been improved

and improvements cost money

Lazers 2.0

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Q: cant hear any sound on True skate on ios

On my ipad 3 I am playing True Skate and I cant seem to hear any sound come from the game but other games I can hear sound. I have reinstaled the game and i have checked all settings. Anybody know any answers or is it a bug in the game.

ios

Dan Henderson

So yeah, I know it's not really a "question" per se

Chippies

also porting from one system to another costs money

if you could buy a ps3 game and t hen own the ps4 game as well, there would be very little financial reason to port the game from ps3 to ps4

Dan Henderson

Ok well here's an example - the FFX HD remaster.

Yuuki

20:47

Someone had to get paid to remaster it.

Dan Henderson

I'm pretty sure that there's not any "improvements" between the PS3 and PS4 versions of that game

Frank

Pretty sure the PS4 version of that has better texturing.

And they had to port the codebase to work on the PS4.

Yuuki

@DanHenderson FFX HD Remaster

Chippies

@DanHenderson porting is a lot of work as well, especially between previous gen consoles and current gen

@Yuuki I assume there's an HD Remaster on Ps3 as well? At least I think that's his point

Frank

@Yuuki He's arguing there's no difference between the PS3 and PS4 versions.

And there definitely is; the PS4 version had a nasty RNG bug that made it impossible to get into random encounters.

Dan Henderson

20:49

@Frank lol

Frank

That's why you pay for it; so shit like that don't happen.

Sterno

It's somewhat analogous to Steam offering you a game for both PC and Mac if you buy either one. Which is cool. However, it's also somewhat analogous to owning the original Day of the Tentacle and expecting the remade Day of the Tentacle for free. Which almost no company will do (though some will offer discounts)

Dan Henderson

Ok, well I guess from a different angle - I think it'd be a good selling point for the PS4 if they said "oh, yeah, any digital games that you bought from the PlayStation Store, that are available for download to both PS3 and PS4, you own them both."

Unionhawk

I mean, the first part is like saying the PS3 and the PS4 are like PC and Mac which is clearly not the case

Frank

@DanHenderson It would be.

Chippies

20:51

@DanHenderson but who's gonna pay for porting them?

the dev? Sony?

Unionhawk

They're not parallel platforms

Frank

Doesn't look like Sony thinks they need the sales, though.

Unionhawk

They are sequential platforms

Sterno

@Unionhawk I was using it as an example for when the game has changed very little on the surface, if at all, and it's all based on the backend and what OS (or platform) the game is running on

Dan Henderson

Compare Nintendo

Chippies

20:51

ps3 and ps4 use completely different architecture

Dan Henderson

Wii could play Gamecube games (right off the disk, no less).

Wii U can play Wii games (but not GC, I believe)

Chippies

@DanHenderson Wii could play GC games, not the GC to Wii ports of the GC games from the disk

Yuuki

@DanHenderson How many more units do you seriously think they'd ship if they did that. The kind of person who wants that kind of free portability probably already has both consoles.

Sterno

Anyway, you're right. This would have been a terrible question for the site. :)

Frank

@DanHenderson Heh. Funny you should mention that...

Chippies

20:53

Wii had the hardware inside it to run GC games, WiiU has the hardware to run Wii games

Yuuki

It's not as strong a selling point as you think it is.

Chippies

PS4 does not include PS3 hardware

Frank

You have to buy a game for every single platform from Nintendo.

For 3DS, for Wii, and Wii U.

If they come out on all platforms, you're shelling out for each one.

Dan Henderson

Of course, the drawback for Nintendo is that they just don't have very many quality third-party titles

compared to PS and Xbox

Sterno

SHOTS FIRED

Unionhawk

20:54

@Frank Why? Can you not buy just the gamecube version of TP?

Is that not an option?

Frank

@Unionhawk Virtual Console, I mean.

Sorry, forgot to mention that.

Unionhawk

Aha

Frank

Physical disks are totally fine.

Unionhawk

I was going to sit here and tell you how wrong you were about how choices work

Frank

Digital, no chance at all.

badp

20:54

@Frank wait, wii console games can't be played on wii u console?

Frank

@badp In the Wii mode on the Wii U console, I think they can. Not 100% sure of that.

Unionhawk

Nope, the Wii U virtual console library excludes some games on the Wii VC library even

Which is even funnier

Frank

Unless you have a physical disk.

In which case you're golden.

Yet another reason why I prefer physical copies.

Unionhawk

But then again, retail sales of games is awful and I'm still salty at Wal-Mart

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk why would you go to wal mart in the first place?

Unionhawk

20:57

I mean, for game sales, hindsight is 20-20, you're right

For other stuff though, solid meh

Sterno

@twobugs Are you going to let that comment about the Wii U's game catalog just slide, man? COME ON

Yuuki

@DanHenderson Depends on how you define "first-party". Fire Emblem and Pokemon are third-party, right?

Dan Henderson

ermmm, hmm

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk solid meh for all their business practices? you truly are the worst, @uni

Dan Henderson

I would consider Pokemon first party honestly (though I might be wrong)

Unionhawk

20:58

I mean, you're right, but on the other hand, they're close and they sell everything

Including the souls of everyone who works there

Yuuki

@DanHenderson Developed by Game Freak, not Nintendo.

Fire Emblem is Intelligent Studios, IIRC.

Frank

@Yuuki Sounds right.

They were in danger of shutting down, pre-Awakening.

Yuuki

Intelligent Systems, actually.

They also did CODENAME: STEAM, IIRC.

Dan Henderson

@Yuuki But Nintendo is the publisher

Yuuki

Etrian Odyssey is a solid turn-based dungeon crawler.

GodEmperorDune

21:00

@Unionhawk this is why we can't have nice things

Unionhawk

Yes

Yuuki

And the new Persona game is going to be on the Wii U, isn't it?

Unionhawk

Very much so

Yuuki

@DanHenderson First/third-party refers to the developer, not the publisher.

Dan Henderson

@Yuuki Ok so actually it turns out that Pokemon is second-party

Yuuki

21:05

Nintendo doesn't have a weak line of third-party games so much as their first-party line is so much stronger than the other console makers.

Dan Henderson

@Yuuki Hmm, well put!

GodEmperorDune

starring a good point that's not funny -context? what is the bridge coming to?!

Private Pansy

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy wut

that is outrageous

Private Pansy

@GodEmperorDune The end of the world, I guess

GodEmperorDune

21:07

truly outrageous

Dan Henderson

Problem is that their first-party line isn't necessarily quite broad enough to drive me to shell out for each console generation

Also, I haven't seen a worthwhile Square title on a Nintendo system in decades.

Private Pansy

The Bravely series is nice

Yuuki

> I haven't seen a worthwhile Square title ~~on a Nintendo system~~ in decades.

Dan Henderson

@Yuuki Mana series?

Chrono Trigger?

Yuuki

Both of which were on Nintendo systems? And also, technically "decades" could be from 1996 and on.

Unless you use the plural for a single decade, in which case Square stopped being Square in 2003.

GnomeSlice

21:14

@PrivatePansy I don't get it

Wipqozn

So Dagger and Coin series is complete.

Dan Henderson

Ok maybe I exaggerated with "decades". But by "Square" I meant Square/Squaresoft/Square Enix

Yuuki

@GnomeSlice Reference to:

Wipqozn

Gotta say, I was really disappointed by the final book. It did wrap everything up nicely in the end, but there just wasn't enough going on to keep it interesting. Until you get to the last 100 pages nothing is happening, including character development. In fact only one character goes through any major development. Gotta say, although it would have taken major editing, the series should have just wrapped itself up in four books, because there just wasn't enough material for a fifth.

Yuuki

My trust in Randall Munroe has been damaged severely by the realization that he supported Ron Paul and likes the taste of Cadbury Creme Eggs.

GodEmperorDune

21:18

@Yuuki cadbury creme eggs are delicious

Dan Henderson

How can you not like Cadbury Creme Eggs?

badp

@DanHenderson they look bloody awful

GodEmperorDune

ron paul... well... its the internet so libertarians are kinda a given

Yuuki

My bloodstream is not already composed of sugar so the systemic shock is pretty bad.

badp

@Yuuki see also the people turning their back onto John Oliver as soon as he disagrees with you on your pet issue

Chippies

21:19

@GodEmperorDune they're not that delicious

badp

some things are bad enough to other senses you do not need to also taste them to know they are going to taste awful. See also, red bull.

murgatroid99

I don't know if anyone cares, but Homestuck just updated, finally

GodEmperorDune

@Chippies clearly you are a terrible person

badp

@murgatroid99 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

GodEmperorDune

with poor taste in overly sweet items

Chippies

21:21

@GodEmperorDune they're just flavoured sugar with gross cream and cheap chocolate

Unionhawk

@badp cares immensely

murgatroid99

It's actually going to end on 4/13

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Bowcaster Nerf?

I realize that for the xbox one the bowcaster was nerfed, but does it still kill in one shot? I'm looking to use the jump pack+bowcaster+Bounty hunter trait strategy.

xbox-one sw-battlefront-2015

badp

@murgatroid99 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA‌AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Chippies

I mean, I can eat them, but I don't care for them

Dragonrage

21:21

@badp needs more A's

badp

hey it's very likely the last bunch of flash animations I'm even going to watch :P

hope he eventually gets around to converting them to something else

murgatroid99

Literally one of the only things I use IFTTT for is to get a text message every time Homestuck updates.

badp

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :/

now I don't know where I'd left.

user15026

I don't know if it is because I've not played this game before ever but I feel like Earthbound is not very good at telling you where to go

murgatroid99

@badp Did you not get caught up some time in the last 8 months?

badp

21:24

@AshleyNunn where are you currently?

@murgatroid99 I did.

murgatroid99

@badp Then this is the new page: mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009860

user15026

@badp Oh, right now I am fighting teh police

badp

@AshleyNunn hm, so that's right after the first boss battle?

user15026

But before that, I fought a lot of Sharks before I figured out how to go farther

badp

the five battles in a row IIRC?

Unionhawk

21:24

@Yuuki Illuminati confirmed

user15026

@badp yeah, that's what I am working on, the multiple cop battles in a row

user15026

I have died three times now

badp

once you do defeat all five policemen, you want to go northwest

after that you should be basically done with onett

(or did you already clear up the cave system)

Frank

Wee! Day off, and I get called!

GodEmperorDune

> jesus boys, he's eating ground pizza

user15026

21:29

@badp The one you go through to get to Giant Step?

GnomeSlice

@Yuuki RIGHT

badp

@AshleyNunn you are getting too specific for my vague memories. :(

GnomeSlice

There's a cool site you can ask about it on

KutuluMike

yahoo! answers?

GnomeSlice

pls

for the last time, yes

Frank

21:36

Dammit, RNG. Three 80% chances to hit != 3 misses.

Yuuki

@Frank That's XCOM!

GnomeSlice

rekt

Frank

@Yuuki Also Fire Emblem.

My freaking Swordmaster missed three times in a row.

Yuuki

Yeah, I heard RNG in the new one was unforgiving.

Frank

It very much is.

GnomeSlice

21:38

thats shitty

Frank

But over-levelling tends to trivialize story fights.

ardaozkal

niiice

I opened a nice pack in hearthstone

1 rare 1 golden rare

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice are you not hyped at all for trailer park boys season 10?

ardaozkal

not the best though, I got all my legendaries when I was opening packs- 5 of them in a row, 2 legends, 3 goldens in total.

user15026

@GnomeSlice I...know?

ardaozkal

21:42

However, gnight bridge

Chippies

(ง︡'-'︠)ง

Yuuki

Google is now offering their collection of photo editing software for free.

Chippies

@Yuuki that's like, at least 3rd time someone links this in the last 2 weeks

Tim Stone

Negative internet points to everyone

Yuuki

57 secs ago, by Yuuki

Google is now offering their collection of photo editing software for free.

Chippies

21:54

@Yuuki yes, that is what I was replying to

WarThog

*in mmo and someone says "YOU DONT HOW TO SPELL"

Yuuki

@WarThog Reply with "Expelliarmus!"

OKAY, PANIC.

I've posted a postmortem explaining this morning's partial Stack Overflow outage here: http://stackstatus.net/post/141859797844/partial-outage-postmortem-march-28th-2016

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on March 28, 2016 at 9:32 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

Chippies

@WarThog I guess it's just me who is bothered by people not spelling properly on purpose?

I don't care if I am about to die in a raid at a boss, I am not spelling "you" as "u"

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