The Bridge

Fluttershy

15:00

@GnomeSlice I guess the basic concepts are similar, but overall style, and likely substance, are considerably different.

GnomeSlice

yeah fair enough I guess

I guess a better word would have been Archetypes

Unionhawk

@Sterno tbh I assumed I would eventually get flagged down

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Agreed. But I think that's more just because they're pretty much the norm these days, and not because of devs actively trying to copy or anything.

Unionhawk

I really should submit "mods aren't blue on mobile" as a bug tho

GnomeSlice

Yuuki

15:04

Oh come on. Dude with gun pointing in a certain pose?

GnomeSlice

@Yuuki fast cool guy with a gun and a badass attitude

two bugs

Man with gun is so cliche. How about guy with sword?

GnomeSlice

Anyway, I think @Fluttershy is right.

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn urmom killed it at first

GnomeSlice

Most of them they don't actually look as much alike as I thought, they're just like... similar weapons and stuff?

GodEmperorDune

15:05

Cc @Wipqozn on that mediocre burn

ardaozkal

I'm #12 on March for Online Slang on Turkey on Quizup.

"on for on on"

#UselessAchievements

Mind you, I started playing Quizup today.

two bugs

@GnomeSlice That's kind of how shooters work :P

GnomeSlice

two bugs

Also, drat. I apparently missed my chance to spend even more money on Halo

GnomeSlice

Actually maybe just Atlas Reactor is copying everybody

two bugs

15:07

Wasn't Paragon announced like a few days after Overwatch? Sounds like they just had really similar ideas during development

GnomeSlice

two bugs

I've never heard of this Atlas game but that sounds possible

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice I don't think Marquis is very fast, but I can't remember enough about Battleborn to say for sure.

GnomeSlice

@twobugs It's like frozen synapse except with moba style abilities instead of everybody shoots

(I think)

Also it's being made by Trion so it will probably be meh

two bugs

That... I can't even imagine how it'd work but oh Trion

Short answer: it probably won't

GnomeSlice

15:09

See also guy with gun:

GodEmperorDune

Bearded cowboy is kind of an old archetype though

GnomeSlice

@GodEmperorDune haha true

Fluttershy

15:11

I just want Overwatch to come out so I can freeze people with Mei. :(

GnomeSlice

Like I said it looks fun but Trion is kind of bleh

also you can play as a dog

GodEmperorDune

What kind of dog?

GnomeSlice

a robot dog

GodEmperorDune

:S

GnomeSlice

he bites

Tim Stone

15:14

Hmm, Rob Ford has died

GnomeSlice

@TimStone Oh shit

Fluttershy

@TimStone Source? I literally just read an article saying he was moved to palliative care, but don't see any updates saying he died. :o

Tim Stone

BREAKING: Former Toronto mayor #RobFord dead at 46.

Tweeted by CBCAlerts on March 22, 2016 at 3:06 PM

MadMAxJr

Did he turn into a pile of white ash?

Martin Sojka

@TimStone Then I hope he has lived.

Yuuki

15:16

@MartinSojka Oh, he's lived all right.

GodEmperorDune

Cocaine's a helluva drug

Private Pansy

@GodEmperorDune Oh that's him?

GnomeSlice

@fredley noun project has a new partner lingoapp.com

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy he's the Canadian mayor who was caught smoking crack. Then tried to run again

GnomeSlice

smoking crack doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad mayor

Private Pansy

15:22

Ponies vs. Hard disk. Ponies 1.

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice true, but it seems the city council tried to take his powers away

Rob Ford

Robert Bruce "Rob" Ford (May 28, 1969 — March 22, 2016) was a Canadian politician, businessperson and Toronto City Councillor. He was the 64th Mayor of Toronto, serving from 2010 to 2014. Prior to being mayor, Ford was a city councillor. He was first elected to City Council in the 2000 Toronto municipal election, and was re-elected to his council seat twice. Ford was elected mayor in the 2010 mayoral election on a platform of reducing the "gravy train" of government expenses and taxes. The slogan "respect for taxpayers" was attached to that platform. During his political career, Ford has been the...

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy Heheh

Fluttershy

@TimStone Jeez.

GnomeSlice

New Video of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford Drunk, Swearing in Jamaican Patois? Bumbaclot

►

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden Although I do think I might have enough left to upgrade my disk too, but I'm keeping the money for now

Fluttershy

15:24

@GnomeSlice It... Doesn't? O_o Since when does "blatantly performing illegal activities" not equate to "shouldn't be in a position of authority"?

Private Pansy

My disks are just a tad full

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy People screw up? He didn't do a bad job in office.

If you can keep your crack out of the office, who cares

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy also tiny

GnomeSlice

Obviously not torontonians

Kevin van der Velden

I mean, is C an SSD? That'd be fine, but the other ones o.o

Lazers 2.0

15:26

1

Q: Can I use ender chests to transfer items from the end?

Me and my friend found our first stronghold and activated the end portal. But wanted to wait with going there as we didn't know what to expect. Silverfish wanted none of that waiting and pushed us both into the end portal. We both died, but at least i was able to go back and get most of my stuf...

minecraft

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Man, you guys have such a different view on drug use than the US does

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice I don't know if it was just the crack that did him in. He seemed to do a bunch of clown like things

SaintWacko

Here, smoking weed once is something that could bring down a political career

Kevin van der Velden

@SaintWacko where by you guys you mean mostly him?

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice I'm not, no, but I have a few friends who are and who were glad to see Ford out of office.

Yuuki

15:27

@SaintWacko But you're fine as long as you don't inhale.

SaintWacko

@KevinvanderVelden Oh, I missed the context of that

user15026

@TimStone They were reporting yesterday that he was in palliative care for his cancer. They sounded hopeful, but I guess things were worse than they let on.

GnomeSlice

Coffe Run - Rob Ford

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GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki obama said he smoked weed in college

user15026

I mean yeah, he was a pretty bad mayor in a bunch of ways, but still. Its shitty when people die.

Nate Kerkhofs

15:31

Why do so many people not take the time to simply Google stuff? That minecraft question up there was easily found the answer to using Google.

user4704

Google stealz your privacies though!

Powerlord

I stayed up way too late last night... completed both Maniac Mansion and Day of the Tentacle.

Also, I discovered the scariest software development tool of all time

I was surprised by how many sounds in Day of the Tentacle Remastered were outright replaced. The tentacle's sucker sounds when they hop around, for example.

GodEmperorDune

@Powerlord nah, here is a list of the scariest dev tools of all time

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Does "Day of The Tentacle: Remastered" include the Maniac Mansion easter egg?

The original version of Day of the Tentacle released in 1993 included an easter egg: The complete predecessor Maniac Mansion was playable by interacting with a computer in the game. Does the remastered version which was released in 2016 still include this?

day-of-the-tentacle

Fluttershy

Hyper Light Drifter releases March 31st!

I just went from hype... To Hyper!

rimshot

Wipqozn

15:37

@Sterno I cry everytime

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy finally

Wow Cuphead isn't coming to ps4

PC and Xbox One

Sterno

My comic shop is closing :(

4th one to open and close since I lived here

Yuuki

Did it do anything other than comics?

Sterno

Records

Private Pansy

@Sterno Should just do what the ones here does - stick a 50% markup on everything

Sterno

15:46

this one is actually closing because the owner wants to do something else, not because it was losing money. That's a first

Yuuki

The one I usually go to also does board games and hosts tabletop gaming.

Private Pansy

Which we still pay, because there's literally nowhere else that stocks comics

Sterno

@PrivatePansy online beats that in the us at least

I'll have to go back to online again

Private Pansy

@Sterno It's the same price online, but I kinda like the feeling of having paper in my hands

I usually just order trade paperbacks from Amazon instead

Sterno

I don't mean digital. I mean mailed

Private Pansy

15:48

Ah, okay. Yeah, no such option here

Sterno

Places like TFAW are like 20% off, which makes up for shipping

Dragonrage

good morning bridge

Private Pansy

@Sterno Yes, TFAW is pretty good. Still annoyed at how they managed to screw up a backorder and send me a single order in three different packages rather than one though

GodEmperorDune

Sterno

I totally need to buy comics boxes, boards, and bags before he closes though. Shipping on those sucks

SaintWacko

15:51

@GodEmperorDune Best webcomic

GodEmperorDune

@SaintWacko toss up between xkcd and smbc

SaintWacko

@GodEmperorDune xkcd is funny, but it can be a little self-congratulatory at times

MadMAxJr

XKCD tends to bounce between slice of life jokes, math jokes, science jokes, tech jokes, and 'Four people on earth get this joke.'

I just need Mr.Munroe to get back on board with doing What Ifs

GodEmperorDune

@SaintWacko xkcd also tends to embrace the web format of the webcomic, with stuff like the interactive comics

SaintWacko

@MadMAxJr Those are amazing

MadMAxJr

15:57

SMBC is a source of surprisingly ethnically diverse, slice of life and nerd jokes.

For XKCD, Relativistic Baseball remains my favorite.

If only for the diagram of the disintegrating pitch.

Dragonrage

A McDonald's Big Mac contains 540 (dietary) calories of energy, or about 2,250,000 joules. The Sun's output is 382,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules per second. That's enough to tell us that we're going to have a hard time catching up with the Sun by eating more burgers.

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr yeah i do like the SMBC diversity of both characters and material

MadMAxJr

He does all the math. He researches papers and makes very reasonable guesstimates. Often the weird questions drives him to find the ODDEST research papers.

SaintWacko

@MadMAxJr The last line was the best

> A careful reading of official Major League Baseball Rule 6.08(b) suggests that in this situation, the batter would be considered "hit by pitch", and would be eligible to advance to first base.

GodEmperorDune

yep

the dry humor

so good

MadMAxJr

16:02

For a ball traveling at near FTL I question if the ball hits the batter or fuses with him.

Dragonrage

this one was pretty good too

MadMAxJr

He really likes adding speed of light into questions.

Apparently physics gets fun at that point.

Kevin van der Velden

Who wouldn't? Accelerating something to (near) the speed of light is a great way to get explosions!

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Skyrim purchasable houses

I was wondering where I can buy a house in skyrim. Specifically, I need to know who I need to talk to and where they are. I have no DLC's and I play on Xbox. Currently I have breezehome and honeyside.

skyrim

Yuuki

Perhaps one of my favorite images.

MadMAxJr

16:05

At 1.25 C your waterjet cutter works on other planets. From Earth.

Kevin van der Velden

It'll work on other universes as well

MadMAxJr

Thus solving 'How do we get clean usable water to other planets?'

Kevin van der Velden

Things break when you have 1.25 times infinite energy

MadMAxJr

Just have to solve the new problem of how not to cut them in half.

Dragonrage

@Lazers2.0 greedy person, you already have 2 houses, and now you want more?

SaintWacko

16:07

@Yuuki Haha, yeah

Martin Sojka

@KevinvanderVelden No, they don't. The math works on both sides of the c barrier just fine. It's crossing that barrier that requires you to break the universe.

Yuuki

> GODDAMMIT DWAYNE DO YOU LIVE INSIDE JOHN STEINBECK’S CANNERY ROW

GodEmperorDune

@MartinSojka for you, maybe

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka infinite energy multiplied by a positive constant is still infinite energy =p

GodEmperorDune

some of us cross that barrier regularly

Martin Sojka

16:08

@GodEmperorDune What can I say? I'm just a fellow mortal, after all.

MadMAxJr

"Dear XKCD, how many cans of Red Bull does it take to reach C?"

"Well if Redbull gives you wings and the average man-bird sized wings gives X lift/thrust...."

Dragonrage

@MadMAxJr humans are too fat to fly.

badp

so what you're telling me is that C is a contradiction in terms and C++ is hopelessly broken

Dragonrage

at least with wings

Yuuki

Which part of the human are the wings?

GodEmperorDune

16:12

@Yuuki elbows, obvi

Dragonrage

@Yuuki the same part that the buffalos have

MadMAxJr

I'll assume he'll use a prominent piece of art or legend, like Icarus as the basis for man-wings

Dragonrage

@badp iff C++ = 1.5C

ardaozkal

Good news, probably continuing as Microsoft Student Partner on next year too!

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage C++ should be 2C

@ardaozkal they must have heard about your windows phone hyping :p

Dragonrage

16:14

@Wipqozn Stop being dramatic, we all know you will be back, because no one else will pretend to be your friend.

@GodEmperorDune C++ = C+1

GodEmperorDune

oh are we pinging @Wipqozn now?

Martin Sojka

@KevinvanderVelden Where do you get the infinite energy from? The formula for kinetic energy is (mc²)/sqrt((1-v²)/c²) - (mc²). If you put a v>c in there, you don't get infinite energy. You get imaginary energy.

ardaozkal

Probably = was asked if I was free on 3 specific days in summer, and there is always a 3 day introduction event for new MSPs and MSPs that continue come too.

Dragonrage

@GodEmperorDune were we not pinging him? did i miss something?

Powerlord

@Dragonrage Undefined behavior? :P

ardaozkal

16:15

@Wipqozn and not pinging, u wot?

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage lets ping @uni and cc @fredley for good measure

Martin Sojka

For example, at 2 c you get (mc²)/sqrt(-3) - (mc²).

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka the bit where you get to that speed from a finite speed

MadMAxJr

Can we harness imaginary energy?

Kevin van der Velden

Yes but only for imaginary work

Powerlord

16:16

Oh wait, no, because you only used one post-increment operator

Martin Sojka

@KevinvanderVelden That's why I wrote that crossing that barrier requires breaking the universe. The other side is just fine. Just never cross c.

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka Yes.

MadMAxJr

Breaking the universe or breaking a universe? Do we have a test instance universe handy?

Dragonrage

@Powerlord how is that undefined behavior? the ++ operator simply increments so c++ is equivalent to c+1

Powerlord

1 min ago, by Powerlord

Oh wait, no, because you only used one post-increment operator

Fluttershy

16:17

@GnomeSlice That was confirmed forever ago. It was always touted as an Xbone console-exclusive. :o

Dragonrage

therefore if C++ is to be the same as 1.5C C=2

Martin Sojka

@Dragonrage c++ is equivalent to (c+=1,c-1), but only evaluates c once.

Yuuki

If I do cave in to getting Overwatch, do I want base or Origins?

Dragonrage

therefore the speed of the light is 2

ardaozkal

@Yuuki I'd go with origins, especially because I play other blizz games too.

Martin Sojka

16:19

Also, it has different integer overflow/underflow characteristics, but at this point you probably should already be heading for the bar to get a pint or three.

Powerlord

e = mc🔨

Dragonrage

@MartinSojka not entirely sure what you mean by that.

Martin Sojka

@MadMAxJr If you pair that with a particle which has imaginary mass, you can even get real energy out of it. Which would transfer faster than light.

MadMAxJr

Okay you just made my head hurt.

Dragonrage

@MartinSojka do you pronounce pint with a long or short vowel

MadMAxJr

16:21

So I need a giant hope and dreams vacuum to get a source of imaginary energy. Then I need to add imaginary mass. Then death ray.

Martin Sojka

@Dragonrage c++ increments c by one (thus: c+=1). But it also returns the previous value of c, so after c = 5; a = (c++);, a would have the value of 5 and c the value of 6. This is the same as c = 5; a = (c+=1, c-1);.

Kevin van der Velden

@Dragonrage with the i as in like

Dragonrage

@MartinSojka oh, thats what you meant. i learned it slightly differently explanation-wise

the ++ just happens after the asssignment to a

Martin Sojka

The difference is in how often c is evaluated (so c(something) ++` and (c(something) += 1, c(something) - 1) behave differently when c(something) has side effects) and which overflow/underflow bits are set.

murgatroid99

@Dragonrage I'm pretty sure that order is not defined, at least in C

Kevin van der Velden

16:24

It's defined in C++ given that you can overload it

Martin Sojka

@murgatroid99 It is, that's the difference between c ++ and ++ c.

murgatroid99

@MartinSojka No, I mean that a=c++ might be evaluated as a=c; c+=1 or c+=1; a=c-1

They have the same result, but not the same execution order

Martin Sojka

@murgatroid99 And that's why I was using parentheses.

Kevin van der Velden

The compiler is probably still free to optimize it so you don't have to decrement

murgatroid99

@MartinSojka I have no idea what c(something) means

Martin Sojka

16:26

@murgatroid99 It's a function or macro call.

murgatroid99

OK, I think we were talking about separate things. You were talking about side effects, and I was talking about execution order

Unionhawk

MadMAxJr

Anything moving at C is gonna result in a bad time.

murgatroid99

@MadMAxJr or light

Martin Sojka

@murgatroid99 I didn't mean those parentheses. I meant the ones in a = (c++); - so we don't have to have the execution order, operator associativity and operator precedence discussion in addition to the one about what c ++ exactly means.

murgatroid99

16:33

@MartinSojka OK, execution order was the only point I was talking about, and I don't think that's affected by parentheses

Martin Sojka

@murgatroid99 No, but by the comma operator.

user4704

That is correct; parens do not affect sequencing order.

two bugs

Oh wow, just heard about the Belgium terror stuff on my way in. Crazy :(

user4704

Yeah :(

Martin Sojka

That's another annoying thing in C: in func(a(), b()), the two arguments can be evaluated in any order. In (a(), b()), they are guaranteed to be evaluated in the order they appear.

Like ... the hell, why?!?

murgatroid99

16:36

Because one is a comma operator and the other is an argument separator.

user4704

Most instances of unspecified behavior like that exist to provide the implementor license to do things in the most efficient way for the platform.

Martin Sojka

Yes, and it is a way for me to deduce points from hapless job applicants as I cackle gloatingly, which I appreciate. Still a strange decision, in retrospect.

user4704

It's also a big reason why many instances of unspecified or undefined behavior remain in the standard. There's a whole study group dedicated to where and what such behavior to remove, and what to keep.

user4704

@MartinSojka And then you have T a(); and T b();, and operator,(const T & a, const T & b);, and then (a(), b()) is really the first one after all!

user4704

\o/

Sterno

16:46

@Unionhawk cc @fredley