The Bridge

Lazers 2.0

18:01

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I have noticed that my fallout 4 game is increasingly glitchy and an honest pain to deal with. When I go to certain settlements that have shops, I notice sometimes that i will have no money to collect after having not been there a long time. Sometimes settlers will randomly be unassigned from a t...

fallout-4

Yuuki

@Lazers2.0 Something something Bethesda.

Even though I rarely get Bethesda bugs.

Dragonrage

Bethesda's modus operandi is to simply document all bugs as features.

MadMAxJr

That last part 'make a vibrating noise and cut off the game' That's a system failure.

Possibly a hardware failure if it reboots.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Which arena do free and crown chests use when determining the cards you will get?

If I am in arena X when I collect my tenth crown for the crown chest, or a free chest becomes unlocked, then proceed to climb to arena X+1 before opening the chests, which arena will be used to determine the cards I get? Will it use the arena I was in when I unlocked the chests in, or the arena I...

clash-royale

Sterno

@twobugs Who is joking?

MadMAxJr

18:11

Does killing the Bullet King create chaos in the Bullet monarchy?

Dragonrage

is there a "best" armor in terraria

two bugs

@Sterno Well I might do it a nonzero number of times just to try it out

Apparently you can get a good number of phoenix credits that way

Sterno

YOU SEE?

two bugs

There's really not that much to do with Phoenix Credits right now, though

Dragonrage

darn it mobile app, stop sending notifications ive already opened

two bugs

18:19

Best thing to do is probably buy a bunch of the mods since I still haven't seen those drop

Mod blueprints, that is

Sterno

@twobugs Buy vector blueprints?

two bugs

You only need to buy the blueprints once

And vector is basically two days worth of daily stuff

Hardly a king's ransom

Fluttershy

;-; I thought we were done talking about The Division in here.

two bugs

Never!

Dragonrage

@Fluttershy we dont stop talking about stuff until we are all dead

Fluttershy

18:23

@twobugs T____T

MadMAxJr

Take the engine for The Division...

Dragonrage

we should do TheBridgePlaysGameX

MadMAxJr

And just make modern day Detroit

Dragonrage

anyone on that plays LoL that hasnt added me as a friend?

two bugs

@MadMAxJr I think this is just called "Detroit"

user15026

18:25

....I broke the CRA webiste

MadMAxJr

"What's the story in Detroit?" "You live there. You want to not die."

two bugs

Pay me $400 and I'll let you enjoy the most immersive open world PVP survival game ever made. It's called "Living in Detroit"

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Q: Searching for mod to Diablo II Lord Of Destruction

I'm trying to find an mod to Diablo II LoD which i played few years ago on friend laptop. This friend don't remember name of this mod so i try to find it by use all of method. The problem is that i have very limited information about which can help me to find. That why i ask you. First thing tha...

mods diablo-2 game-identification

So this is an interesting question. No screenshot, but it does sorta have an artifact - the base game

I'm guessing that isn't sufficient?

Dragonrage

ATTN: USA people, don't forget to file taxes before April 15th.

MadMAxJr

electronically filed. Mailed my state tax payment in over the weekend. I'm good.

If you make over $10,300, congratulations, you owe taxes.

Are you scared of tax forms? Are you single? No itemized deductibles? You might qualify for the 1040 EZ form. Which is a single sheet of paper.

Sterno

Step 1 for living in Detroit: Move out of Detroit.

MadMAxJr

18:31

I can see that. Game starts. First quest indicator. "Leave Detroit. By any means."

We can even pin a 'roguelike' tag on it.

two bugs

Randomly generated Detroit

MadMAxJr

Infinitely awful levels.

Sterno

The 47% illiteracy rate in Detroit still blows my mind. Forbes has an article about how that might be BS but it won't let me read it because it thinks I'm using an ad-blocker. Which I'm not.

Dragonrage

@Sterno you should block their ad-block-blocker

Sterno

So I loaded up Edge (yuck) and Forbes tells me I've got an ad-blocker in that browser too. Go home, Forbes. You're drunk.

I'm guessing I could just disable javascript

two bugs

18:36

@Sterno Link? That sounds insane

Also there's the question of how "illiterate" is being defined. They could be just counting people who can read, but fail certain reading metrics

MadMAxJr

That's why people are in detroit! They can't read the signs on how to leave. Okay.

two bugs

Still, that's terrifying

Sterno

@twobugs I've seen it a lot of places but don't know what the original source is

Here's an example: detroitliteracy.org/faq.htm

argument against the stat: datadrivendetroit.org/danny-devries/…

Although the part of the argument that "No, no, see, this is an old statistics from 1993" isn't all that compelling unless it's coupled with a reason to believe things got better

two bugs

Well, I think there are a few things at play

"Functional illiteracy" is a loosely defined term. Since Detroit has a ~10% unemployment rate, but a ~50% literacy rate, are those people really "functionally illiterate"?

> • On November 3, Bridge Magazine reported the figure, saying that “despite the best efforts of dozens of nonprofit tutoring agencies, the numbers have not been improving,” though there’s no way of knowing whether this is true.

Sterno

Fun Detroit facts:

> 7) At this point, there are approximately 78,000 abandoned homes in the city.

8) About one-third of Detroit’s 140 square miles is either vacant or derelict.

two bugs

18:42

Dammit Bridge! Get your act together!

Well, apparently the model itself says it makes no claims about the entire city, rather smaller management units

MadMAxJr

So can we make just giant arrow signs to show them how to leave Detroit?

two bugs

Also the confidence interval is completely unstated, but greater than 5%

GnomeSlice

Fluttershy

Dammit! Apparently, pre-ordering Overwatch now gives beta access.

Sterno

Yeah. I don't trust the statistic. Detroit still isn't on my list of vacation spots, though.

two bugs

18:45

@Fluttershy The Beta doesn't start until May for that, I think

Well, the Beta you get into

Or something. I'm still interested

Sterno

Overwatch looks like a game I will not enjoy.

Fluttershy

@twobugs Oh. I'm less grumpy then.

two bugs

Overwatch is interesting because my friends who typically hate EVERYTHING were really excited for Overwatch but me and my other friends who are... less discerning were not really moved by it

I want to try the beta but of course I'm not getting picked for any of the events

Kevin van der Velden

@Fluttershy it gives you 2 days early access to the open beta

Sterno

Okay, question for anyone in here excited about Overwatch: Why?

Unionhawk

18:47

So if you pre-order you get early access to a beta?

Yuuki

Unionhawk

That sounds...

Kevin van der Velden

Really common?

Sterno

I've read some stuff on it, but not a lot, but what I've seen hasn't been anything groundbreaking or compelling, so I wonder what I'm missing that has everyone excited.

two bugs

@Sterno It looks like a more interesting and modern version of TF2, which I enjoyed a lot back in the day. I don't like the direction it's gone in, though

Unionhawk

18:48

@twobugs You mean, into a wall?

Dragonrage

@Sterno it looks interesting, but now its like 60$ or something

Sterno

What makes it look interesting?

Yuuki

@Sterno As far as I can tell, it's because it's like TF2 but with characters people want to CENSORED.

Sterno

I'm not trying to argue, mind you. I legitimately don't know.

@Yuuki It has a playable Kerrigan?

:P

two bugs

@Sterno I don't think Blizzard has really made a bad game. They're taking a genre I like and they're committing to long-term support for it

Fluttershy

18:49

@Yuuki That's exactly why I am interested in it. :|

Yuuki

@Fluttershy Apparently, I am spot-on.

ardaozkal

@twobugs diablo 3, the early days were terrible.

Dragonrage

the different abilities look kind of cool.

two bugs

I mean, you can say Diablo 3 sucked at launch but they put a lot of effort into fixing that

ardaozkal

They made it an awesome game by patches though.

Sterno

18:50

So at this point is it mostly "I haven't got a specific reason based on the game itself yet, but I like the genre and I trust Blizzard to get it right?"

Dragonrage

and the fact you can play as characters you like from other games

two bugs

@Sterno Well, I haven't actually played the game at all

Fluttershy

@Sterno The variety of characters and emphasis on team play is something fairly unique to competitive shooters, tbh. TF2 aside. But I hate TF2.

Sterno

I don't think anyone has

Is there gameplay footage?

Dragonrage

@Sterno quite a bit on youtube.

ardaozkal

18:50

@Sterno yes

two bugs

There have been a bunch of beta events and lots of gameplay, yes.

Fluttershy

@Yuuki I was being sarcastic. :P

ardaozkal

They gave away beta keys

Dragonrage

most popular streamers/youtubers got beta keys

not sure who else

Fluttershy

@Sterno Streams on Twitch right now, too.

two bugs

18:51

Basically it's TF2 without some ridiculous item system, a lot more characters, and more diverse abilities

fredley

Protip: don't search for 'reattach head' without including the search term 'git'

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Fluttershy

@Dragonrage I'm not sure what you mean with this.

Sterno

@Fluttershy I should probably go find one of those

ardaozkal

Reaper Gameplay Preview | Overwatch | 1080p HD, 60 FPS

►

Sterno

@fredley I could see that still just being a subset of awful

ardaozkal

18:52

@Fluttershy he probably confused overwatch with hots.

two bugs

I mean, even Blizzard's worse release of Diablo 3 they put a ton of time and effort into fixing

Fluttershy

@ardaozkal That's what I was wondering. lol

two bugs

And people really overstate the problems with that game

Unionhawk

@Sterno for the lazy

Dragonrage

@Fluttershy yea, i forgot which characters were for which game. i dont follow blizzard that much.

two bugs

18:53

Well there is a Korean SC2 player who is a character in Overwatch

Fluttershy

@Dragonrage Gotcha. Overwatch has unique characters. HotS has other Blizzard characters. And will have some Overwatch characters too!

Sterno

Holy shit, why do people even chat in popular twitch rooms? It's like 100 messages a second

ardaozkal

@fredley git checkout master

Dragonrage

@Fluttershy a few of the characters in overwatch look very similar to warframe characters

speaking of which, does anyone here play warframe?

Unionhawk

@Sterno Especially if slow mode is disabled yeah

ardaozkal

18:54

@Sterno Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa

Unionhawk

r9k helps on very much larger chats too

Dragonrage

@Sterno half the popular chats are sub only chats

Unionhawk

Since it prevents people from just pasting bullshit

Sterno

The best part of this stream so far is the DS3 ad

two bugs

@Dragonrage I tried once and it was really buggy. Too frustrating to continue but cool concept

@Unionhawk Yeah this is a Very Good filter

Fluttershy

18:56

@twobugs Technically, they never specify SC2. :P But yes, D.Va was a professional gamer before joining the Overwatch arena.

Dragonrage

@twobugs its pretty great now imo. theyve done a lot of work on it. i just dont have anyone to play the game with, and it can be hard to find a party if you arent playing with friends

Fluttershy

@Unionhawk I have this on my Twitch stuff, but I don't know what it actually does.

ardaozkal

/me won a Karambit | Fade Factory New! Write streameristerrible to get a chance to win one! Kappa

two bugs

Well my problem was when playing with friends it would frequently spawn us in missions that were impossible to complete

Like it just wouldn't spawn the last guy for us to kill

That happened 3 times in a row

Unionhawk

@Fluttershy It's a chat mode that disallows posting of anything too similar to something that was just posted by someone else

two bugs

18:57

This was... 2013 I think? Maybe 2014

Unionhawk

It's basically designed to stop copypasta

In fact it's literally designed for that

Fluttershy

@Unionhawk Oh. Well that's pretty great.

two bugs

I can't imagine reading stream chat anyway, but I especially can't imagine reading it without that filter

Dragonrage

@twobugs i never ran into that. the biggest problem i even had was a bug with one of the characters chopped people in half which caused too many bodies and made people lag out

but that was fixed

two bugs

I don't really need another multiplayer game right now. I have enough on my plate

Lazers 2.0

19:01

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Q: How does this work?

Hello guys my name is Todd I was wondering how to the flip knife looks when its folded in because the blade is way longer than the handle does it stick out or something? because that just means that you would just cut yourself while carrying it XD

counter-strike-go

ardaozkal

Gonna brew some coffee. Have some of these left, which one should I go with? This or this?

going with anniversary blend

@Lazers2.0 wait what, how did he get past the hello regex?

Dragonrage

sooooo, i have to figure out a way to prevent double counting from work experience time periods

@ardaozkal whaat hello regex?

ardaozkal

You can't start a question/answer with hello/hi etc., there is a regex.

two bugs

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Q: Searching for mod to Diablo II Lord Of Destruction

I'm trying to find an mod to Diablo II LoD which i played few years ago on friend laptop. This friend don't remember name of this mod so i try to find it by use all of method. The problem is that i have very limited information about which can help me to find. That why i ask you. First thing tha...

mods diablo-2 game-identification

I... really don't think that should have been closed.

There are multiple artifacts, and it's not asking for a recommendation...

ardaozkal

@twobugs identification request.

two bugs

19:10

@ardaozkal There are multiple artifacts.

And YOU voted it was a game rec question, which it clearly isn't.

ardaozkal

I'll look at that in a moment.

two bugs

You should look at that before casting a close vote...

ardaozkal

@Dragonrage You can see my workaround here: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/posts/11329/edit but that isn't there on that question.

@twobugs I checked it before voting, I'll recheck.

> Questions asking for help identifying a game, whether based on a description, or feature list, or any other set of criteria are off-topic

two bugs

That's not a feature list...

Regardless, you misused your close vote.

ardaozkal

It is a feature list.

user4704

19:13

I don't think it matters if there's a feature list in the post or not.

ardaozkal

"I remember this feature, and that feature and that feature."

Wipqozn

cc @Sterno

user4704

It does have an artifact, so it's not asking to make the ID based entirely on a feature list.

two bugs

@JoshPetrie Exactly.

Dragonrage

@Wipqozn your a little late on that

two bugs

19:14

It provides two artifacts, which people seemingly ignored

And again, use VTC responsibly. Don't just VTC a question for any reason under the sun because you don't like it...

Unionhawk

I think it's safe to assume didn't notice in this case

two bugs

I think it's a problem if people are using VTC without actually reading the question

Dragonrage

well i cant flag to reopen, sorry

Unionhawk

You know, the quick glance game-id no image

two bugs

But it's clearly not asking for a game recommendation.

It's asking for a SPECIFIC GAME.

ardaozkal

19:15

I don't think that music counts though, as it is way too generic.

two bugs

MUSIC DOES COUNT

If I sound like I'm getting annoyed, that's because I absolutely am.

user4704

The close reason specifically calls out audio clips as being acceptable.

user4704

Seems valid enough to me.

ardaozkal

I didn't say that they are not audio clips, but they are too generic.

Dragonrage

give me like a week and i should have 3k rep and then i can vto

user4704

19:17

shrug I voted to reopen it.

ardaozkal

I'm voting to reopen too, but I'm not supporting it.

fredley

@spugsley You should definitely watch the Night Manager, there is Hiddlebutt in it

Unionhawk

2lewd

Wipqozn

@ardaozkal You shouldn't cast a reopen vote unless you believe it's a correct vote

Don't just use your votes because people tell you too

two bugs

@ardaozkal You need to stop misusing your VTC

Dragonrage

19:18

Only 27 more questions need to reach 10 upvotes on domchores cc @fredley

also just got 61 followers

ardaozkal

@Wipqozn I don't support it, but those are the rules.

Wipqozn

I'm voting to reopen since, as @JoshPetrie and @twobugs poitned out, in contains an audo visual artifact so it's fine

@ardaozkal Support what?

ardaozkal

@Wipqozn the "supporting songs as acceptable"

Unionhawk

I think audio like that can present unique problems that images cannot (if that song happens to be used in 2 mods or something like that), that's a fair and valid point

two bugs

Then argue it on meta. And again, you didn't use your VTC as that - you voted it as a game rec.

It's very clearly not a game rec.

Unionhawk

19:20

On the other hand, I don't currently care enough

two bugs

Stop misusing VTC. It's not a toy.

Wipqozn

@ardaozkal If you've got a problem with that, then you should take it to meta.

ardaozkal

@Unionhawk yeah, I can ask for games that have this in it and will either get tens of answers, or be closed as too broad.

two bugs

@ardaozkal Except what you're presenting is a different question.

It's not asking for a list of games that include some random song.

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk I agree. IT's a unique case.

two bugs

19:23

I'd argue that in this case there's another clear artifact - the base game.

I don't want to belabor the point but this is far from the first time you've misused your VTC and you aren't even acknowledging it

Dragonrage

@twobugs i think that there should be a different artifact besides the game in a mod identification request

two bugs

@Dragonrage Luckily, there is.

Arperum

@Dragonrage THERE IS

Dragonrage

@Arperum i wasnt saying there isnt in this case, just that in the general case.

ardaozkal

@twobugs I misused my VTC, but still, I don't support taking songs as artifact. for example, Max' "wowser" is unique, and I'd take that as evidence, but songs can be used in multiple games.

two bugs

19:25

@ardaozkal Graphics can be used in multiple games. Should we disallow graphics?

In your specific example you cited royalty free music. There are royalty free models available.

ardaozkal

@twobugs full screen graphics would be better, yes.

murgatroid99

@ardaozkal We definitely have strong precedent for songs as valid artifacts

two bugs

@ardaozkal Keep moving the goalposts.

murgatroid99

@ardaozkal yes, it would be better, but it's not a requirement

Unionhawk

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Q: Do we allow audio artifacts in game-identification questions?

Where does FF2's The Tank theme (titled metalfox.mp3) come from? I posted the question above to which a user immediately cast a close vote and a downvote, citing that an audio artifact wasn't representative enough of a game and thus my question should have been closed. Was I in the wrong here? ...

support

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Q: What is an audiovisual artifact?

There's been a debate going on over whether or not this question should be closed: Can someone identify this game music please? The controversy is stemming from confusion over what an audiovisual artifact actually is, so I decided to make this meta to help clarify the issue (and work out any ki...

discussion site-policies identify-this-game

boom

and boom

murgatroid99

19:30

@Unionhawk Oh, cool, I was going to go looking for the answer of mine that that question links to

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk I completely forgot I made that

I'm so handsome and smart

two bugs

@Wipqozn And 27!

Dragonrage

@Wipqozn i fail to see how making a meta post makes you handsome

two bugs

I'm glad I'm not the Oldest Young Person on The Bridge

Wipqozn

Also, although I can't speak for any past instances, it does seem that @ardaozkal made an honest mistake when he cast his VTC. mistakes do happen.

Powerlord

19:32

Am I the youngest old person on the Bridge?

Dragonrage

@twobugs you are older than me correct?

two bugs

@Wipqozn If the mistake is "I didn't bother to read the question before I used my VTC", that's still a big problem

@Dragonrage I'm 26

Dragonrage

@twobugs ok so you are a few years older

two bugs

VTC is not a toy. Yes, people are going to make mistakes or have honest disagreements. But you need to LEARN from your mistakes, not just repeat them.

Arperum

@twobugs Shush. I only have a couple hours of being 27 left.

two bugs

19:34

Sometimes it feels like an uphill battle to even have mistakes acknowledged

Wipqozn

@twobugs It looks like he read it to me. Like I said, folks do make mistakes. Now if @Arperum is going through and making these mistakes a lot due to not properly reading questions than yeah, that's a problem (I don't honestly know enough of his voting history to comment on that), but if this is some one off incident I'm willing to just look at is a mistake.

Sterno

@Wipqozn It seemed like you'd really enjoy it!

Wipqozn

All I'm saying is that users do make mistakes on a VTC. That's why we need five of'em. since folks aren't perfect.

two bugs

Right, I get that. But this is repeated and consistent.

Arperum

@Wipqozn There are frequent discussions between @twobugs and @arda about the second one not using his powers responsible/correct though.

Wipqozn

19:36

@twobugs I'm not disputing that.

@Arperum Yeah, I know @twobugs has a problem with how arda uses his votes.

two bugs

I mean, just read the transcript for the number of times I had to ask for it to stop being referred to as "super-downvote"

Sterno

urmom is a superdownvote

Dragonrage

@Wipqozn i never make mistakes on VTC here therefore I must be perfect

ardaozkal

@twobugs did I say super downvote after last time?

No.

two bugs

If someone is going to "joke" about misusing a site power, and then does so regularly... Yes, I'm going to say something.

@ardaozkal After me asking you what, 5+ times?

When you completely ignored me?

Ugh. Dropping this. Sorry.

ardaozkal

19:39

Regularly? I average 3 or smth close votes per day, but this happens only once a week or more. Not a good nor bad rate imo. Also, I'm also detaching.

Arperum

@twobugs sends a digital hug

ardaozkal

Also welp, I wasted coffee.

Dragonrage

pls learn to gif cc @Arperum

ardaozkal

Used the press way too fast.

Wipqozn

@ardaozkal Making a mistaken close vote once a week seems pretty high to me

Arperum

19:40

@Dragonrage NOT TO ME.

Jun 15 '15 at 13:02, by Arperum

Jun 10 at 8:22, by Arperum

Feb 12 at 13:38, by Arperum

Oct 30 '14 at 12:20, by Arperum

35 secs ago, by Arperum

May 2 at 13:57, by Arperum

1 min ago, by Arperum

11 mins ago, by Arperum

Animated gifs are still horrible things.

Wipqozn

If you are making mistakes that often, I'd suggest being more careful when reviewing questions, @ardaozkal. It's more important to cast a correct vote (or no vote), then to get out a vote quickly.

Dragonrage

@Arperum urface is still a horrible thing

Wipqozn

You wouldn't be the first user to make that mistake, and you won't be the last.

user4704

@Wipqozn The link is now 10k only in your meta question

user4704

(FYI)

Arperum

19:42

@Dragonrage I do not like urmom jokes. Not even in jest. My mom is an awesome person. If you need to insult, insult me.

ardaozkal

@Arperum urmom is an awesome person.

Dragonrage

@Arperum bettter?

Arperum

@Dragonrage WAAAY better.

Thanks.

Dragonrage

mhmm

Arperum

@Dragonrage That's why I grew a beard. It does work.

ardaozkal

19:44

@Wipqozn I vote early on most stuff though (I read them before I vote though, and vote according to what I know is allowed or not). I didn't know that Music was allowed until twobugs stated it.

Wipqozn

@JoshPetrie Thanks

Unionhawk

I was looking for the "blue rectangle" ITG example (where someone had a screenshot of a blue rectangle they said was cropped from a game screenshot and they don't have the original) but I can't find it

Dragonrage

i dont particularly like urmom jokes either, as my mom is a great person, but its a somewhat automatic response.

we should replace all urmom jokes with urface in honor of all the great moms in the world

Wipqozn

@ardaozkal I'd suggest rereading the close reasons, then, since it seems you might not be as familiar with them as you should be (since as @JoshPetrie said it's clearly listed in the close reason that music is an exception)

djsmiley2k

woooooooooooo

knackered

D:

Dragonrage

19:47

@Arperum my facial hair is not great beard quality. i could do a decent goatee, but thats about it

Arperum

@Dragonrage I have a beard painted purple :D

Powerlord

I wonder what time Day of the Tentacle unlocks on Steam tomorrow. Probably 10am.

Lazers 2.0

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Q: In Gnomoria, why is my inventory empty for the Send Tribute menu?

When I attempt to send tribute, my inventory for sending it seems to be empty, but I have lots of resources that Im able to trade with merchants. Are there more specific items needed for sending tribute?

gnomoria

ardaozkal

@Wipqozn It says audio clips. I comprehended (right word?) it as voices of people in game or sfx, but I just learned that music is counted too.

Sterno

@Powerlord Preorder discount ends in 21 hours and 9 minutes. So I'm guessing 21 hours and 9 minutes

Nate Kerkhofs

19:53

So I think what caused my computer to not turn on is the power button itself

so I'm going to dive into my BIOS so I can enable my computer using my mouse

BRB

ardaozkal

I'm not this ~~guy~~ thing., I read and think before I vote to close.

Dragonrage

countdown till next badge: 21

Nate Kerkhofs

So apparently powering on your computer via the mouse only works when you got a PS/2 mouse

Dragonrage

@NateKerkhofs i have the opposite problem

Nate Kerkhofs

@Dragonrage your computer turns itself on?

Dragonrage

19:57

@NateKerkhofs yea.

djsmiley2k

hmmm

WoL or something else?

we have dell systms that stop responding to keyboard mouse via usb dock if they hibernated at some point

Dragonrage

i turned off wakeup timers for updates, but windows 10 turns them back on

which is highly annoying, not to mention completely stupid

ardaozkal

I might set up wol with my RPi once I get a proper ethernet connection in my room.

Dragonrage

so if i dont want it to turn back on i have to use the power switch on my power supply

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