The Bridge

on this subject, if anyone wants crap from my backpack, feel free to make me a somewhat fair offer. I don't play enough to justify keeping any of it around.

Powerlord

@badp L4D2's price came down rather quickly, iirc.

@agent86 Backpack link?

agent86

lemme see

Powerlord

I tend to use tf2b, but you can use whereever

(although I'm at work today, so if you link to your Steam backpack, I can't see it)

agent86

tf2b.com/?id=agent86

badp

@agent86 A respectable backpack.

agent86

3:21 PM

@badp If you say so :) I mainly stopped playing a long time ago

Powerlord

Oh, I guess we should have asked if you were looking for money, games, or what?

agent86

uh, I don't even know. I guess money's easy, although I don't know how hard it is to do a trade for money

Powerlord

The most valuable items in your backpack are the Earbuds and Treasure Hat (or so I assume, I dunno how much it goes for these days)

but you need Gift Wrap to trade the Treasure Hat.

agent86

ah

I was about to say "not really tradeable"

badp

The lugermorph ain't cheap either.

Powerlord

3:23 PM

@badp It's not a Vintage.

(which means it comes from a game that costs like $5)

agent86

all you've got to do to get the lugermorph is play some poker night

yeah

badp

oh, wasn't the lugermorph the only preorder bonus?

Powerlord

The downside being that all 5 Poker Night items require gift wrap to trade.

@badp Lugermorph was a preorder bonus like Max's Severed Head, but that version got converted to Vintage Lugermorph.

Strangely, they even have different item codes in the game's item schema.

badp

The more you know. --==★

agent86

yeah, I didn't realize they were the same, and yet different items.

Powerlord

3:26 PM

At a guess, they were originally going to have a different item, but changed it to the Lugermorph again.

Miles Erickson

insert coin

Powerlord

Press 1P Start

Ullallulloo

How To Tell You Sucked At Video Games in 2011.

Miles Erickson

OK, that's awesome. I don't think I've played Asteroids since the 1980s.

Powerlord

Oh, I guess I should change which map my Vs. Saxton Hale server is running on so it updates its gamedata

badp

3:39 PM

@Ullallulloo Hah! I scored 0.

Because I have none of those games, and apparently that means I haven't played in 2011.

Powerlord

Also, as of yesterday's TF2 update, I can wear my Le Party Phantom with my Familiar Fez again. \o/

David B

that article should have done one for portal2 co-op.

You suck if you're always the one that has to let the other person tell you how to solve the puzzle.

I dunno, saying that wasn't as fun as I hoped.

Loktar

4:16 PM

@Powerlord last I heard the octopus hat is going for $450

if thats what you were talking about in terms of treasure hat

Powerlord

@Loktar No, there's one named Treasure hat, too

Loktar

ah ok

I hope theres another hat this Christmas treasure hunt

Ive started early

Powerlord

@Loktar Yeah, the treasure hunt wasn't at Christmas last year.

We've already past the time it happened last year (late November, early December)

Loktar

well theres a ton of games that have updated their achievements to include Christmas related ones

they say its going to start the 19th

Powerlord

@Loktar "they" who?

Loktar

4:22 PM

random forum peeps, and a few of the devs inadvertently, cant remember the exact game.. but the devs hinted at 19th or 20th

also some of the achievements say "play during the holiday sale of 2011"

Lazers

0

Q: Why can't I get Rest or Well Rested?

I sleep in rented beds and my bed in Jorrvaskr (with the Companions) and no mater how long I sleep I don't get the notification that I'm rested or well rested anymore. I've looked at my active effects to check for Lycanthropy or Vampirism and all I have are positive effects. I have slept in ren...

skyrim

Powerlord

@Loktar Yeah, except we always have a Holiday sale.

Loktar

oh yeah, I see what your saying now. Yeah who knows what the event will be. I thought you were saying there possible wont be a holiday sale.

regardless Ive started to get the achievable christmas achievements just in case

forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2272641

^ has the list so far

badp

uh...

why would the 1,000 arms race wins achievement for CS:GO be called "Cold Pizza Eater"

Is that a reference I'm missing?

I mean, I like cold pizza too, but...

Tim Stone

Presumably because you've invested so much time in the game that all you've been eating is cold pizza that you had delivered a week ago.

badp

4:30 PM

urban dictionary says 'cold pizza' also means "sleeping with a guy's wife, then stealing his breakfast and/or lunch for the next day." Now that might be challenging to translate

Loktar

haha

Tim Stone

So....it means you're a sexually deviant cannibal?

Loktar

lol where did you get cannibal from?

horrible images in my head now.

GnomeSlice

Bah, loadout not available?

Tim Stone

@Loktar Well if that's the definition of "cold pizza", and the achievement is called "Cold Pizza Eater", the eater part had to come in somewhere.

GnomeSlice

4:33 PM

@Powerlord What do I do with a Nice Winter Crate?

badp

(for reference - every kill unlocks a gun. The last gun is a knife. A knife kill wins the game.)

@GnomeSlice Try and sell it.

GnomeSlice

@badp Why?

Loktar

I want some naughty ones

a huntsman with christmas lights!

badp

They're not worth opening

they're not worth keeping

GnomeSlice

My naughty crate appears to be gone.

Nope, there it is.

badp

4:34 PM

so either sell them or delete them

GnomeSlice

How do I open them.

Loktar

Nice key I think right?

Im just gathering that from the update image I saw last night, had 2 types of keys in the image.

badp

Yeah. Those crates contain the new weapons, but they'll start dropping next week.

Loktar

ah ok so nice crates are pretty worthless

GnomeSlice

Key?

Also, what's with The Splendid Screen

What's 'charge impact damage'?

badp

4:37 PM

When you charge into somebody you damage them.

GnomeSlice

How do you 'charge'?

badp

With the regular shield you need to charge for at least some distance for that to happen.

uh. Right click.

GnomeSlice

Also, what do you mean 'regular shield'. This is the first one I have.

Loktar

Chargin Targe

badp

(the first shield to appear in the game)

GnomeSlice

4:41 PM

Medic is my most-played class now. Huh.

None of my loadouts work any more.

Ullallulloo

@Loktar No, Nice crates have the cool new weapons. Naughty crates contain decorative lights for weapons.

Loktar

yeah Naughty crates are the ones I want

Nice crates sound pretty useless, I wont waste 2.50 on them.

GnomeSlice

It costs that much for a key?

I hate that kind of shit.

Loktar

in fairness they arent a requirement.

And crates droprate seem alot lower than weapons/items outside of holiday events

Ullallulloo

Last year they gave free keys I thought.

Powerlord

4:47 PM

@Loktar There are only 8 Festive items: Scattergun & Bat for Scout, Rocket Launcher for Soldier, Flamethrower for Pyro, Stickybomb Launcher for Demoman, Minigun for Heavy, Wrench for Engineer, Medigun for Medic, Sniper Rifle for Sniper, and Knife for Spy.

GnomeSlice

There are almost no servers with people on them...

Loktar

bah.. I really wanted a festive huntsman..

Powerlord

I know this because I just updated the AlliedMods TF2 Item Indexes Wiki page

GnomeSlice

I guess it's a work day.

Loktar

they already screwed me on strange items :(

Powerlord

4:48 PM

Oh, and I'm writing a plugin I call TF2 Festivizer that uses the TF2Items extension to replace stock items with their Festive equivalents. >:P

badp

and all hats to the industrial festivizer? :P

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord So people with the normal ones will get the festive lights?

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Yup, but only on servers running it.

GnomeSlice

How come I can't connect to the items server any more? It says the servers I'm on have lost connection to it as well

Powerlord

Also, I can't count. 9+1 = 10, not 8

@GnomeSlice Possibly it went down.

GnomeSlice

4:50 PM

Which is bullshit, because that sniper has a bow.

Powerlord

It's been doing that a lot lately. :/

Basically, if you're on a server when the item server goes down, sometimes you keep your items. Sometimes you don't.

badp

Sometimes you also lose them when you respawn, or touch a cabinet

Powerlord

Sometimes you'll be reset to stock on the class you're playing, but not on the other 8 classes.

GnomeSlice

I can't even connect to it from the main menu.

badp

which is super fun when you're playing engineer with a non-stock wrench

GnomeSlice

4:51 PM

And now my loadout is back.

badp

@GnomeSlice welcome to TF2. Shit happens, give it time. Valve time.

Powerlord

@badp What, just because all your buildings explode?

Ullallulloo

@badp oh, nice.

GnomeSlice

Why does this guy keep making jingling noises and snow puffs out of him

badp

@GnomeSlice The noise maker you've got today

He's using it.

Ullallulloo

4:52 PM

@GnomeSlice festive noise maker?

badp

You can use it too.

GnomeSlice

How do I use it?

badp

Equip it in the action slot and then press H

also if you want to make questions - gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/ask

Live help is a cancer for SE chatrooms

Let's not get infected

GnomeSlice

I thought you said you got score for healing people?

agent86

@badp this. 1000 times this. I hate trying to help people in a chat room.

between the low character limit, the 10 people trying to help at once, the inability to do research and summarize easily, such a pain.

badp

4:59 PM

@GnomeSlice gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/ask

GnomeSlice

I'm good, thanks.

agent86

TODAYS COMPLETELY RANDOM CAT PICTURE ATTACK STARTS NOW
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/12/15/funny-pictures-http-status-cats/
HTTP Status Cats!
THIS IS THE END OF THE CAT ATTACK. THANK YOU.

Lazers

0

Q: Import character in Skyrim

Is there a way to do any one of these (on PC version): a) Start a new game with an old character keeping perks and level? b) Reset the main quest line back to escaped from Helgen? c) Reset everything not character related

skyrim

Yi Jiang

5:19 PM

@agent86 Where is I'm a Teapot?

agent86

@YiJiang it is sadly missing :(

although finding a cat in a teapot doesn't sound challenging, so you should make one :P

Yi Jiang

Ah, it's in the original flickr image set

badp

oh look, festive strange weapons have their own ranks

Ullallulloo

@YiJiang This would have been better:

Yi Jiang

flickr.com/photos/girliemac/sets/72157628409467125/with/…

This is the original image set

alexanderpas

5:43 PM

@YiJiang hmm.... C418 = teapot reference?

Yi Jiang

@alexanderpas C418?

The image refers to HTTP error code 418, I'm a Teapot!

alexanderpas

@YiJiang not HTTP, but HTCPCP

Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol

The Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP for short) is a protocol for controlling, monitoring, and diagnosing coffee pots. HTCPCP is specified in the jocular RFC 2324, published on 1 April 1998. Although the RFC describing the protocol is an April Fools' Day joke, it specifies the protocol accurately enough for it to be a real, non-fictional protocol. The editor Emacs actually includes a fully functional implementation of it, and a number of bug reports exist complaining about Mozilla's lack of support for the protocol. Ten years after the publication of HTCPCP, the fictional We...

Lazers

1

Q: Do followers have skill levels and level similar to my characters?

I was helping Vilkas go to the temple and on our way I made a pitstop at a dungeon. Inside the dungeon he would get hit only once and be down on the floor with barely any health... So, I'm curious if followers have levels and if so how to do you check it and get them leveled? Generally I don'...

skyrim leveling followers

Ronan Forman

6:18 PM

twitter.com/#!/notch/status/147741994406514688

Ullallulloo

@RonanForman "Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!"

He must have deleted that tweet?

Ronan Forman

Apparently he has, it links to his livestream.

twitch.tv/realnotch#

Powerlord

Anyway, downloading my TF Force Holidays plugin from the SourceMod site again will result in a working version. But just in case, I'm going to test the version with Christmas enabled tonight and push it.

agent86

6:36 PM

today's daily deal on steam: Magicka! 75% off the regular price, which makes it $2.50 if you measure value using US dollars. Another wishlist contest entry awaits you when you login and visit the page.

Canageek

@agent86 Have you seen the GoG sale? Just about everything 50% off, so $2.5-5USD.

agent86

I hadn't seen it, thanks for the heads up. The only problem I tend to have with that site is that most of the good games of yesteryear I still have on disc (or sometimes disk, doh)

Ronan Forman

►

badp

@RonanForman OH GOD MY EARS

Ronan Forman

@badp What?

badp

6:50 PM

@RonanForman The sound's so horribly warped

there was the same problem during the SE thing

"Notch before your next stream in XSplit edit your channel, and under the Audio Encoding change the format and Bitrate to something decent. Right now you're on 11khz mono which is harsh on the ears."

OH GOD PLEASE.

agent86

@badp why is 11k mono even supported anymore, honestly

it's such a trivial amount of data compared to everything else

ah, freespace 2. I miss this genre.

this question and the answer and the comment on the answer is starting to creep me out

19

Q: How can I get my wife to stop nagging about a few murders?

I killed a few people in a town.. then I decided to try to make amends. I bought some properties and set them to low rent/price. Then I tried to make friends with a few of the townspeople. One thing led to another and before I knew it, I became married to one of these townspeople. Most of the tow...

fable-3

starting to sound more like a manual for a serial killer than anything else :)

Ullallulloo

7:12 PM

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/…

badp

oh, Valve.

Powerlord

@badp I can't see that image, so I dunno what you're referring to.

badp

a screenshot of a part of the new map

reading, 1961 13 22 13

add in this and similar tweets:

AV - 10.0 | 8.2 | 12.6 | 15.2 | 7.8 | 0.2 | 17.9 | 6.9 | 21.1 | 3.7 | 21.2 | 20.4 | 10.7 - Connection Lost

Tweeted by Doug_Rattmann on December 11, 2011 at 8:41 AM

Valve denies the existence of an ARG, but it could very well do so because it's all on the internet. (An ARG requires combining internet and afk clues)

Powerlord

So, I just asked on the TF2Items thread if it was ethical for me to release a plugin that replaces standard weapons with their festive variants that Valve is charging $2.50 a piece for a chance to get.

badp

you'd really worry about that?

your server, your rules

you're not messing with network stream or some such, the kind of stuff you're not supposed to do

anyway, what was the response?

Powerlord

7:20 PM

@badp Dunno, I just asked.

But anyway, one of Valve's employees said this yesterday:

> We are working on something like this. The ability to "level" your game server account. Certain benefits would only be given to servers with level >= N, etc. Show the level in the server browser and give preferential treatment, etc. Get caught breaking the rules, and you lose your level, etc.

That makes one wonder... what's considered "breaking the rules"

badp

I don't think it's defined, or final yet. They're still working on it after all.

Powerlord

Because technically, I'd be giving out items to people on my server that people haven't bought.

badp

@Powerlord How many servers out there enumerate paint and unusual effects as donator perks?

stevether

@Powerlord Well this is just stupid...

Powerlord

That's the other thing, I'm intentionally making it so this applies to everyone equally.

I'm even considering making the renamed and Strange variants change.

badp

7:24 PM

so it's even less ethically wrong

you're not making people choose between paying you or paying valve, in a way

Powerlord

However, that may kill the Strange counter if I do.

badp

Can the new weapons be crafted btw?

agent86

@Powerlord You want to share the item wealth?! SOCIALIST! COMMUNIST! You hate our item store capitalist freedoms. GTFO of our USA! USA #1 USA #1!!!!!!

Powerlord

@badp Not yet.

Well, no, I take that back, some apparently can

Although you may have to try the slot token + class token to do it.

I noticed the Dr. Grordbort items are in the Mann Co. Store already

badp

I wonder if the heavy mittens laugh taunt thing lasts enough for the heavy to switch to, say, tomislav

Powerlord

7:29 PM

Also, there are a lot more community Contributed hats/misc items than Valve's page mentioned.

I still want a Spy-cicle. That would be so overpowered with the Dead Ringer.

Enforcer + Spy-cicle + DR

Arda Xi

@badp That account is a ~~confirmed~~ suspected fake.

Lazers

7:54 PM

2

Q: Are you awarded points for reparing vehicles?

I repaired a couple of vehicles the other day (I typically equip mines) and didn't get any points for it. I have no repairs listed on my BattleLog either, but I recall the vehicle being fixed.

battlefield-3

0

Q: Will using the Orcish Boots of Muffling increase my Sneak skill while wearing them?

I found the Orcish Boots of Muffling inside a chest earlier, and the description says something along the lines of the boots silencing my footsteps. Does this mean that they will be COMPLETELY silenced when sneaking? And, if so, will my Sneak skill increase while wearing them and sneaking? Thank...

skyrim

Powerlord

I can't compile this plugin without editing tf2.inc

I loathe doing that, but I'm going to do it anyway

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 you about?

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes You missed him by that much!

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord enjoying TOR?

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes yeah, what's up?

did I do something dumb :P

Powerlord

8:08 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Well, I noticed one really, glaring bug: All the PVE servers last night (after i logged out to check on TF2) had populations that were either HEAVY or FULL, and this is... well... unacceptable considering that they're controlling how many people can play right now.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 No, was wondering if you saw this yet

►

agent86

@Powerlord very punny :)

Powerlord

And don't get me started on last night's TF2 update.

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes yeah, that video was awesome! I feel like I linked it in here at one point not too long ago

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord Ouch. How many servers are there anyway?

They had 40 or so in beta

agent86

8:09 PM

for a minute I was like WHERE DO YOU GET THAT MEGABUSTER THING

Powerlord

Not only was it plagued by content distribution problems, but the updater kept insisting that it was complete when it really wasn't.

agent86

and then I realized I already had it from the deckers missions :(

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes 40 or so sounds about right.

agent86

but then I realized I had it so I went and killed people with it and went :D

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord friend of mine had trouble downloading it at all, kept bugging out and saying she needed to reinstall/repair :/

@agent86 I love that thing!

Powerlord

8:10 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, this was my server install I was updating.

When I finally did get it working (nearly two hours after the update launched) I find that the 12 new achievements they added for cp_foundry are all of the "play to lose" type.

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord I meant for TOR early access

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes Oh. I didn't have problems with that.

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes I'd never really used it before. what slot is it in? maybe I didn't take it cause I wanted something else more

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Special weapons

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes ah, yeah, I'd have to lose my RC Posessor then. hmm

FallenAngelEyes

8:12 PM

Same place as satchel charges and stuff

agent86

oh, you mean explosives? instead of the rocket launcher then

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 I thought they put satchel charges in special this time

agent86

I'm almost done with that game, but I've put it aside to work on AC:R, and when my buddy shows up, MW3

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 It's the RC Possessor spot I mean

agent86

hmmmm

I would consider dropping the Possessor for that permanently

the possessor was good when I wanted tanks and VTOLs for my garage

FallenAngelEyes

8:14 PM

@agent86 It's nice, infinite ammo

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes even without the inf. ammo upgrades?

cooldown?

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 yep

agent86

wow, I'd say "that's overpowered" but so is every other freaking weapon in the whole freaking game

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 no overheating

@agent86 so no cooldown even

it just does more damage if you care to charge it up

agent86

I don't think I've messed with the 8-bit tank I got from that either

FallenAngelEyes

8:16 PM

@agent86 that thing seems tougher than the regular one

it's fun

"boop"

that's all the noise it makes, haha

Arda Xi

Cobalt alpha! Right now! Mojang is publishing it, whatever that means! http://playcobalt.com/ :D

Tweeted by notch on December 16, 2011 at 8:15 PM

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes hmm. yeah, I joined my buddy's game before I got it and heard that noise and thought the game was glitching

then I came out on the street and saw it and laughed

Arda Xi

> Alpha access will be granted to anyone that is willing to pre order the game! During the alpha the price for pre-ordering will be 9.95€.

Oh come on. This model again?

agent86

@ArdaXi what's a cobalt, and why must I own it now?

Arda Xi

Nobody knows.

agent86

8:17 PM

@ArdaXi yeah, I hate buying alpha games if I can avoid it.

@ArdaXi Nobody knows but dammit give us your money NOW

Arda Xi

That's the model Minecraft was promoted with.

agent86

what is this game? WHY DO YOU CARE? BUY BUY BUYYYYYYY

woooooooo

Powerlord

I loled

agent86

someone famous for game design or something is attached in some unspecified way so it is going to be AWESOME! this has NEVER backfired! ever!

Powerlord

Oh wow, I apparently have a new chat bug to report on Meta.

I can't click the link in agent86's post because the flag/star/reply icons cover it up if I move my mouse near it.

agent86

8:22 PM

interesting. In my browser it's on the next line; you must have a different resolution than I do.

Powerlord

@agent86 1600x1200 in Firefox 8.0.1 with the window maximized.

agent86

I don't much care for the color choices of links and "new" stuff on the feed, personally. at first everything looks like a link until it's been in the feed for a couple of seconds.

I don't even know what the resolution of this is. It's a virtual machine, so I just size it however the heck fits best alongside my other windows

badp

Hm. The cobalt installer is public and it comes with various .ogg files "in the open"

rfusca

see the shirt.woot.com today?

anyway, thought this se site would enjoy. ciao!

badp

@rfusca cotton? +10 AC?

Mana

8:32 PM

EXAMS ARE DONE

HUGS CHAT

badp

@Mana I hate you

Powerlord

@Mana \o/

Now you can play TF2!

rfusca

@badp well, it is mithril cotton ;)

Mana

no I have flags to take care of

badp

uh, the game demo for Cobalt was very interesting

I loved the bit where the cobalt button slided in on the taskbar

only to disappear again

I guess it's a stealth game

FallenAngelEyes

8:34 PM

it looks kinda like Soldat

with 2 people

agent86

badp

It looks like a clusterfuck

Have they taken the Mojang school of thought that you can just skip over those stupid tutorial stuffs and just shave the full game in its complexity to players from the first second?

Because it's failing squarely here.

Is it like you're controlling both robots with the same input?

no it's not.

Lazers

0

Q: What levels in LittleBigPlanet 2 have four-player/x4 challenges?

I've got some friends coming over this weekend, and am thinking about asking them to help me complete the four-player/x4 challenges in LittleBigPlanet 2. I still have two worlds to complete to finish the game. I'd like to know, before my friends arrive, how much farther I have to get in the gam...

little-big-planet-2

Ullallulloo

@badp Did you buy it?

badp

@Ullallulloo No.

I'm watching the demo.

You can download the thing, install it and pick 'run demo' instead of logging in as a customer

which plays a sequence of bot v bot games and the only user input is ESC to quit

or is it bot + bot v bot + bot

ha ha! I have no idea.

agent86

8:44 PM

@badp sounds very intuitive.

badp

@agent86 There are four things moving on the screen, two red and two blue. I can't understand if they're controlled by the same input or not

agent86

@badp and this isn't covered on the wiki? it has four whole pages! that's got to be completely inclusive of everything in the game.

badp

Sometimes the bots non involved in the immediate action seem to act erratically, kind of what you see on some sections of the multiple game TASes

@agent86 LIES! It's six.

heh, this is what happens when people trade Steam keys to beta stuff in public

You are editing token-key: Steam_BetaRequiresPassword

Mana

-2

A: How do I get more Oran berries in Pokemon Heart Gold or Soul Silver?

you can get one from your mom in hg ss

I don't think this is an insult, but it's pretty damn amusing that it can be construed that way.

badp

BTW, the HIB4 now comes with soundtracks

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