The Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

15:00

Spin around and LAZER EVERYTHING

Essentially

Jason Berkan

Or, if GIFs (with a J) aren't your thing: youtube.com/watch?v=MLNvUsTBGyE

Unionhawk

When in doubt

Frank

@Sterno Y'know, that would be a pretty cool thing to see done in games nowadays.

Origami Robot

@Rapitor should hire me to protect him while he mines with no shields.

Frank

And you can hear PvP'ers screaming about how OP it is.

Unionhawk

15:01

@OrigamiRobot you can pay bounties anywhere. You can only pay fines in specific areas

Is why it's easier.

Sterno

@Frank Well, in a video game that would just be doing 2% shield damage to everyone while they blow you apart

Frank

@Sterno You can clearly see the the ships exploding! That means you'd be annihilating everybody around you!

Sterno

@JasonBerkan That looks remarkably better than I remember.

Frank

I can just see two ships on opposing teams going into the death blossom, and then all the shots cancelling each other out.

Jason Berkan

@Sterno It's in HD. We watched in on VHS.

Lazers

15:02

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Q: Do Pyros have any fire resistance?

Normally, when I'm blasting fellow Pyros with my flamethrower, they take no more damage per second from my flames than non-Pyros (ignoring afterburn). However, I've noticed that, when I shoot a Detonator shot at a Pyro, instead of taking the standard 30 damage (and afterburn), he takes only 11 da...

0

Q: If your clans at war

If your clans at war but your not pertisapating do you still get share of the loot

clash-of-clans

Jason Berkan

Turn it down to 240p.

Sterno

Goddamn, now I want to watch that movie

Rapitor

@OrigamiRobot I don't even know how effective/fun mining is going to be. it's just something i want to try

Sterno

> In 2004, it was also adapted as an off-Broadway musical.

WAIT A MINUTE WHAT NOW?

Unionhawk

I think I'm going to get a hauler as soon as I can afford. Or... Hrm.

Sterno

15:05

The Last Starfighter: The Musical is now on my bucket list

Unionhawk

I CANT DECIDE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

panics

Origami Robot

@Rapitor Well whatever you do, you should hire me to protect you.

Or else.

Oh wait, you don't play open mode.

Jason Berkan

> For the 300 scenes containing computer graphics in the film, each frame of the animation contained an average of 250,000 polygons, and had a resolution of 3000 × 5000 36-bit pixels

Unionhawk

I do!

Origami Robot

Fine, I'll just extort @Unionhawk

Rapitor

15:06

@OrigamiRobot yeah. i get obliterated by NPC pirates in solo. i wont last at all in open..

Sterno

6005 polygons per krundle or GTFO

Unionhawk

Well you're going to have to extort Frontier to allow player to player credit transfer or something first

Sterno

@Rapitor I barely even seen anyone in open

Unionhawk

Otherwise I'd totally hire you here's the credits I actually can't give you.

Frank

@JasonBerkan I can't tell if that was super good or not.

Jason Berkan

15:07

@Frank Me neither. I'm sitting here Googling how many polygons the Unreal engine can put out.

Unionhawk

36 bit seems random

Probably isn't

But it sounds random

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan polygons makes me think of tihs

►

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk You can pay me in goods.

Unionhawk

@Rapitor what @Sterno said. And most players have figured out that piracy is not the most lucrative thing, I think

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot can I pay you in primed, timed explosives?

Unionhawk

15:09

@OrigamiRobot you have a cargo bay?

I don't believe that

Origami Robot

Yes

Unionhawk

Well I don't believe you.

Sterno

3 mins ago, by Sterno

6005 polygons per krundle or GTFO

Origami Robot

It holds a whopping 8 tons!

Unionhawk

So like, double the capacity of the sidewinder?

Tim Stone

15:11

Stupid pirate Alpaca clearly being a pirate but not having a bounty

Unionhawk

Alpaca?

Tim Stone

Their name was Alpaca

Wipqozn

@Sterno oh

Unionhawk

Like, CMDR ALPACA?

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Piracy by itself is not lucrative. But picking up cargo from destroyed bounty targets in Anarchy space is basically a little cherry on top of the ice cream.

Origami Robot

15:11

Sterno

@Wipqozn That's okay. I'm pretty sure absolutely no one got the reference.

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Nah, computer player, so just Alpaca

Unionhawk

Aw

I was hoping that it was a player.

Origami Robot

@TimStone Why clearly?

Unionhawk

@Yuuki if it's anarchy is it considered stolen?

Tim Stone

15:12

@OrigamiRobot They all scanned me and lamented over the fact I had no cargo

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Yes, but Anarchy systems don't care, I think.

I never get scanned when docking at an Anarchy station.

Just dock there and sell your ill-gotten goods on the black market.

Unionhawk

Most pirates just go "open your holds" "... I have no holds you fuckwit" "OPEN FIRE"

Tim Stone

That's usually when they interdict you

Unionhawk

True

I guess I haven't hung out going pewpew at ships enough

Wipqozn

@Sterno I didn't actually see the message. I just saw jasons, and was too lazy to scroll up.

...or look up... I'm just really lazy

Sterno

15:15

@Wipqozn Go back to lifehacks, where not reading things is the key to high rep

Wipqozn

@Sterno lololol

Unionhawk

I can't decide between pewpew and trading. Pewpew sounds more fun, trading sounds more different.

Wipqozn

I don't think I will. I was trying to help them, but it just seemed like I was wasting my time.

Unionhawk

And lucrative

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Once you get a good ship, you can do both.

Sterno

15:16

@Unionhawk Pewpew first, trading later

Wipqozn

There's just too many high rep users who aren't paying attention to meta at all.

Unionhawk

Well yes, I'm considering my next step

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Trading isn't as lucrative as bounty hunting until you get better ships.

StrixVaria

The blindfolded all child dungeons OoT run met its goal.

3

Unionhawk

YES

Wipqozn

15:17

@StrixVaria I will watch this.

Rapitor

@Yuuki i think thats my issue, besides the no shields... sidewinder is just bad at everything

Yuuki

@Rapitor Save up enough to get your hands on an Eagle and hunt bounties.

Unionhawk

@Rapitor wait, you have no shields?

Wipqozn

I think I might get Sushi for lunch.

Yuuki

Eagle shouldn't be too expensive at ~50k.

Rapitor

15:18

@Unionhawk removed them for fuel scopp as i felt that was more useful

Unionhawk

Welp

Wipqozn

But if I drive to get sushi I'll lose my parking spot right in front of the building.

also I'm lazy

Maybe @MBraedley will deliver sushi to me!

Yuuki

@Rapitor I dropped the cargo deck for my fuel scoop.

Sterno

Sidewinder can bounty hunt just fine. Just don't go after Anacondas or Federal Dropships unless system security is helping you

Rapitor

@Yuuki adder is 52. seems to be a good enough upgrade. im a non-combat player so an eagle doesnt fit me.

MBraedley

15:19

@Wipqozn Fuck that, I'm not going back across the bridge again until I'm done work.

Rapitor

i dont know how im gonna get the hundreds of millions for the actual big carriers

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Oh lord, the bridges. Those things are the absolute worst.

Unionhawk

@Sterno yeah I think that'd what I'll do. Especially since now you don't get slammed for chip shots

@Rapitor if you're going to trade, hauler is a good step. I think adder is a little more expensive

Jason Berkan

I've discovered that grinding in RPGs has perfectly prepared me to be a parent. 483rd consecutive identical supper fight = NO PROBLEM!

MBraedley

@Wipqozn The MacKay itself usually isn't that bad. Windsor St. Exchange, OTOH, routinely sucks.

Frank

15:21

@JasonBerkan "I've done this before! I know how this goes! More XP, incoming!"

Jason Berkan

Man, parenting should have XP.

Unionhawk

AAA I NEED TO PACK ALL THE THINGS GODDAMMIT

StrixVaria

@JasonBerkan Not looking forward to experiencing this. "Why won't you eat it YOU LIKE IT"

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan I'd be more likely to become a parent if I got levels for doing so.

Rapitor

@Unionhawk hauler has less toys/potential for toys

Unionhawk

15:23

But is has more toys than a sidewinder

Which isn't saying anything, but...

Yuuki

@Rapitor Hauler has more internal compartments, but fewer hardpoints.

So less pewpew, but more... carrycarry?

Unionhawk

So you can have shields and a fuel scoop

Yuuki

That too.

SaintWacko

Morning, Bridge

Frank

@Rapitor Doesn't it depend on what you define as toys?

Yuuki

15:25

@SaintWacko Good meowning.

Unionhawk

Because, like I've said, there exists a thing that makes unshielded targets spontaneously open their holds.

Frank

I would think trading ships have more capacity focused upgrades.

Rapitor

Adder : 1x Size 1 Compartment; 2x Size 2 Compartments; 2x Size 3 Compartments
Hauler : 1x Size 1 Compartment; 1x Size 2 Compartment 2x Size 3 Compartments

SaintWacko

@Unionhawk limpets!

Unionhawk

I don't know if npc pirates use it, but it exists.

Jason Berkan

15:26

Sid Meier just replied to my tweet. Current technology is awesome.

Rapitor

1 more compartment. and a handful more hardpoints

Arperum

@JasonBerkan How did you count them?

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan That's pretty awesome.Link?

Jason Berkan

@Arperum I counted the dents in the wall from banging my head against it.

Yuuki

@Rapitor Adder's also a bit more expensive.

~80-90k, I think.

Jason Berkan

15:27

I just followed @sid_meier on Twitter. Now I need a time machine to tell 12 year old me (playing F-19) about it. He'll be amazed.

Tweeted by Jason_Berkan on January 9, 2015 at 2:39 PM

Wipqozn

Nah, no Sushi. I'd love it to get it, but don't feel like driving over and back to get it. I'll just get sushi for supper.

Arperum

@JasonBerkan I was assuming holes in the wall from flying knives. This works too.

Rapitor

@Yuuki yeah, you are right.

Yuuki

RARGH, WHY ARE YOU GIVING ME SYNTAXERRORS, JQUERY?

Unionhawk

Because fuck you that's why

Yuuki

15:31

As per usual, Stack Overflow's giving me unhelpful answers.

"Check for hidden characters, those are always there when you copy-paste from jsfiddle!"

I didn't use jsfiddle!

"But jsfiddle..."

I already checked for zero-widths!

Batophobia

@Yuuki The answer is jQuery

always

Private Pansy

What errors?

Unionhawk

UR AN ERROR

fredley

@Yuuki q

Private Pansy

@Yuuki Speaking of which, the code from your latest question seems wrong. It should either be $(...).on('click', ...) or $(...).click(...)

Yuuki

15:38

@PrivatePansy Yeah, I've changed it since.

I also moved it inside $(document).ready(...);

Private Pansy

That wouldn't be necessary if your code is loaded at the bottom of the page

LessPop_MoreFizz

List of animals with fraudulent diplomas

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Yuuki

I feel like it's something wrong with the object I'm loading.

Private Pansy

2

Yuuki

Since I just replaced with <input type="button" value="Test" /> and that worked fine.

Kevin van der Velden

15:41

@PrivatePansy nice

Private Pansy

@Yuuki Show us teh codez

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk The main obstacle to starting trading isn't the ship, it's the capital.

Rapitor

@OrigamiRobot what? a ship with 4 cargo capacity cant really do much lucrative trading. i only profit a couple hundred a trip.

Yuuki

 <script type="text/javascript">
    $(document).ready(function () {
        $("#RefreshClick").click(function () {
            $("#viewer").html(@Html.Action("RefreshView", "Home", new { data = Model });
        });
    });

I barely know JavaScript, so I wouldn't be surprised if I messed up somewhere in there.

Batophobia

@LessPop_MoreFizz You shall hereby refer to me as Doctor Puss

Origami Robot

15:46

@Rapitor I'm saying getting the ship is less expensive than the amount you need to buy the very profitable goods to haul in that ship.

Yuuki

Truf

Rapitor

oh

Private Pansy

@Yuuki The code replaces the contents of #viewer with whatever HTML is generated by @Html.Action("RefreshView", "Home", new { data = Model }

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy Yeah.

Private Pansy

Point of note - that should probably be in quotes, else the JS won't recognize it as a string

Yuuki

15:48

I did that earlier, got the same error.

So I removed them from the current version.

Still same error.

Private Pansy

What's the error, and what's the actual code sent to the client?

Origami Robot

From what I've seen, 1k per ton is a decent haul.

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL.

Rapitor

@OrigamiRobot depends on what i am trading. something expensive, like gold, yeah. but cheap things like food dont get much

Yuuki

And @Html.Action() is retrieving the data fine.

@Rapitor Depends on the food items and where you're bringing it.

Origami Robot

15:50

@Rapitor Which is my point.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki I'm gong to hazard a guess that whatever @Html.Action("RefreshView", "Home", new { data = Model } is generating, it's not recognised by the JS as a string

Look out for quotes inside the generated HTML

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy I just can't figure out how to get it recognized as a string.

Origami Robot

The obstacle isn't capacity as much as it is what you are capable of buying.

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy I have double quotes in the generated HTML, but no single quotes.

Private Pansy

The whole thing should be in quotes, and any quotes inside should be escaped

Rapitor

15:51

but more capacity is still better

Origami Robot

If you only have 10k, capacity doesn't really matter

Rapitor

if you have more capacity, you could take on some light delivery missions as well as grabbing a trade haul. small capacity cant do that

Private Pansy

Alternatively, why not just put @Html.Action("RefreshView", "Home", new { data = Model } in the HTML, and use jQuery to select it, instead of trying to stick HTML in your JS?

Origami Robot

I'm not talking about missions.

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy I already have a div containing that, I just need to recall the action and refresh the partial and everything has pointed to using jQuery.

Rapitor

15:54

@OrigamiRobot i know, but im saying with more capacity, you can do more even if your wallet isn't big enough

Origami Robot

I am specifically talking about buying and selling, not what is best overall.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki If you need to call a server-side action, you need to use Ajax

Yuuki

Nintendo, you're doing it wrong. Your graphics are supposed to get worse after E3. At least, according to Ubisoft.

Kevin van der Velden

Ooh, @PrivatePansy did you see the new humble indie bundle comics thing?

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, it looks great. Sex Criminals, Saga, all the great stuff from Image

Rapitor

15:57

@Yuuki it's almost like the game is being worked on and improved.

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy With the implementation I'm using, it shouldn't be server-side.

@Rapitor What is this black magic?!

Frank

@Rapitor Rather than a special engine being built for display purposes.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki So what do you mean by 'refresh the partial'? If you don't use Ajax, you aren't fetching anything from the server, so there's no difference with simply having the $("#viewer").html take HTML embeded in the page rather than a string embedded into the JS

Jason Berkan

@Yuuki I'm not sure what you are doing, but the call to @Html.Action will be resolved at the time the page is rendered, not at the time the button is clicked.

Private Pansy

@JasonBerkan Yes, this, exactly

Yuuki

16:01

I'm probably understanding some things incorrectly.

StrixVaria

Has anyone played any Xenoblade games? Since Xenoblade Chronicles X is coming out on Wii U, I am interested.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki When the user loads the page, the server renders the HTML, yes? Whatever is returned by @Html.Action("RefreshView", "Home", new { data = Model } is going to be stuck in the JS that's sent to the user, and whenever the user presses the button, the same code will be run.

Unless you make the button do something that will contact the server again (usually done through Ajax), the button will always put the exact same HTML in #viewer, the same HTML that was created when the user loads the page

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy So even if I fix this syntax error, the view wouldn't actually refresh with new data?

Private Pansy

@Yuuki Eh, yeah

Batophobia

@Rapitor Ubisoft prefers the philosophy of release it and make improvements the DLC

Private Pansy

16:06

@KevinvanderVelden Also just finished The Wicked + The Divine vol. 1. It's all great stuff.

I mean, 18 issues of Saga for $18 alone is a steal, not to mention all the other great stuff that comes with it

Jason Berkan

@Yuuki Though it is pretty easy to use jQuery + AJAX to call a controller action and dump the resulting HTML into a div.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki What you'd want is something like

$("#RefreshClick").click(function () {
	$.get({url}, function(data){
		$('#viewer').html(data);
	});
});

And in the code that the server runs when the route to {url} is hit, put @Html.Action("RefreshView", "Home", new { data = Model } somewhere in there

Jason Berkan

@PrivatePansy Which the URL will already be mapped to, except for passing the Model.

Private Pansy

@JasonBerkan I won't pretend to know the server-side language this code is written in. Just trying to demonstrate the general principle of the thing

Jason Berkan

i.e. /Home/RefreshView will execute the same code as the @Html.Action line.

MBraedley

16:11

bool utm2ll(
            double  /* in  */  n,
            double  /* in  */  e,
            int     /* in  */  utm_zone,
            double  /* out */ *p_lon,
            double  /* out */ *p_lat);

bool utm2ll(
                 double  /* in  */  e,
                 double  /* in  */  n,
                 int     /* in  */  utm_zone,
                 double  /* out */ *p_lon,
                 double  /* out */ *p_lat)

Which one is it!?

BTW, one of those is in the header, the other is in the cpp

Private Pansy

Uh... both code look exactly the same?

MBraedley

@PrivatePansy Order of the parameters

Private Pansy

Oh, that

Also, putting comments in the middle of variable declaration is weird

MBraedley

@PrivatePansy Some old C programmer did this.

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy it can be pretty useful when you need to distinguish between the uses of a pointer

Wipqozn

16:14

@Sterno It's like a car crash. I just can't turn away.

MBraedley

It's kinda important to not mix up northings and eastings. Now I don't know if my code that relies on this is working properly, of if I'm allowed to blame something else.

Kevin van der Velden

Though if it's an input pointer than you should just make the bloody thing constant

Wipqozn

►

Sterno

@Wipqozn Are we talking about lifehacks or what? I was just absent from chat for an hour

Wipqozn

@Sterno Yes

MBraedley

16:16

@KevinvanderVelden Well this shouldn't be passing by pointers, it should be passing by reference, but as I said it was written by a C guy a long time ago.

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley reference is a pointer where you can't change what it's pointing to. Constant means you can't change the thing being pointed at

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden Why not at the end of the line like everyone else does?

Sterno

@Wipqozn Your first mistake is hanging out in Lifehacks chat

Wipqozn

@Sterno I know :(

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy reasons, and because C sometimes has syntax like void* (bla*)(const Foo* const);

MBraedley

16:18

@KevinvanderVelden The paradigm these days is to prefer pass by reference over pass by pointer, that's all I'm saying.

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden That makes my head hurt.

badp

Where's the lord of power when you need him

Lazers

0

Q: Can Karthus' Ult Hit Fizz During Playful Trickster?

I know that Fizz is untargetable during playful trickster, but can Karthus' ult still hit him?

league-of-legends

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley agreed, reference is generally better than pointer, but I'm saying that is a different discussion. For an in variable you generally want to mark it as constant so that you guarantee that you won't change it

MBraedley

@KevinvanderVelden Yes, agreed, although that doesn't matter when passing by value.

Kevin van der Velden

16:22

@PrivatePansy Declare a function pointer to a function returning a void* that takes a constant pointer to a constant Foo, but I syntax-errored something somewhere

@MBraedley true

MBraedley

bool utminv(double lon,
            double lat,
            double *x,
            double *y);

bool utminv(double x,		/* (I) X projection coordinate 			*/
            double y,		/* (I) Y projection coordinate 			*/
            double *lon,	/* (O) Longitude 				*/
            double *lat)	/* (O) Latitude 				*/

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME OLD CODE!?

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy Ooh, correct is void* (*bla)(const Foo* const);. The * is before bla, not after

Private Pansy

I understand pointers, but I don't have to like them

StrixVaria

@MBraedley This is amazing.

Kevin van der Velden

Woohoo! I broke cdecl.org !

It gives syntax error on void* (*bla)(const Foo* const); but that is a valid declaration of bar

MBraedley

16:26

Thank fucking god today is Friday, because I don't think I'd be sober enough to come into work tomorrow with how much I'm going to have to drink tonight after seeing stuff like this.

Jason Berkan

@MBraedley Can't you just ignore the header? My guess is that the code file is correct - unless the programmer used x for the longitude.

Lazers

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Q: how can i search for a specific item with attributes?

i want to test if a player has the following item: minecraft:bow 1 0 {display:{Name:Bow I},ench:[{id:48,lvl:1}]} i know this command works with normal items: /testfor @p {Inventory:[{id:"minecraft:stone_sword"}]} but i dont know how to add the attributes or is it possible to search for ...

minecraft minecraft-commands

Kevin van der Velden

> BREAM: That's my question about these guys. If we know they were speaking unaccented French and they had ski masks on, do we even know what color they were, what the tone of their skin was? I mean, what if they didn't look like typical bad guys? As we define them when we think about terror groups.

What... the... fuck mediamatters.org/blog/2015/01/07/…

Yuuki

Aaaand now I'm at my old problem of the view being refreshed with the new data on load.

As if the button was clicked before the page loaded completely.

Unionhawk

@Lazers how many times do I have to say it, testfor is so useless in application it hurts.

Private Pansy

16:30

Huh, International Earth Rotation Service is an actual organization

Unfortunately its purpose is not to make sure the Earth keeps spinning

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Okay, I don't know what accents have to do with skin tones, but identifying suspects by their skin tone is a thing and I don't think it's particularly racial.

But that's if you already know the skin tone.

fredley

The worst exceptions are those thrown by logging statements

Yuuki

I might be grokking this incorrectly.

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

1

Driving

Proposed Q&A site for car drivers (professional or otherwise) interested in discussing any aspect of driving.

Currently in definition.

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki this one was in response to someone saying that racial profile isn't effective

Rapitor

16:32

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment i proposed something similar a while back that got shot down because it was too close to automotive. this could maybe work.

SaintWacko

@KevinvanderVelden They're essentially saying that you should use someone's skin tone to decide if they're good or bad

That's how I parse it, at least

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Depends on what you mean by "racial profiling". If it means "suspect is Muslim because Muslims are terrorists", then yes that's wrong. If you mean "suspect is white because he's white in this photo or a witness said he's white", then that's more understandable.

Given the backlash, I'm guessing that person intended on the first interpretation?

Origami Robot

> Profiling isn't always effective... because you can't always see their skin color.

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki the "Person is muslim so is likely terrorist" type of racial profiling

@OrigamiRobot yep

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Ah yes, that's patently ridiculous.

Kevin van der Velden

16:35

@Yuuki especially given that the "person is muslim" part is shortcutted to be "person is vaguely brown-ish"

Lo @JoshPetrie

user4704

Hi.

Yuuki

Anyways, back to coding. So now the refresh function that I intended to be on a button click is for some reason executing on page load.

So the viewer is refreshed with the modified data on page load instead of showing the original data first.

MBraedley

@JasonBerkan Yes, it looks like the definition is correct and the declaration is wrong. But the declaration is usually the only thing that you have (or what is shown to you first) so if it's wrong, the likelihood of anything using it being correct is low.

Jason Berkan

@MBraedley True. If you just had the header and a DLL, you'd be in for a world of hurt.

Origami Robot

> And if you can't see their skin color and they don't have accents, how would you know they were bad guys?

Yuuki

16:39

So... Lebanese drug lords are joining the fight against ISIS.

@OrigamiRobot I dunno, maybe by the fact they're shooting people?

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley the original coder should have wrapped it in a simple POD struct honestly, would solve so much problems

MBraedley

@Unionhawk Yep, without seeing the full question, I can already guess that using a scoreboard is going to be the solution

Origami Robot

@Yuuki They're talking about preventative profiling.

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki no no, it is vitally important to know the skin color. If they are vaguely brown they are part of a terrorist organisation, if they are white they are lone wolves and everyone should quickly move on

Sterno

Specifically avoiding profiling is kind of stupid too. Pulling the 83-year old grandma out of line at the airport security to check her for bombs, or the 3 year old obviously-spoiled-upper-class-American-kid is probably not a good use of time (though, yes, they could theoretically be strapping)

But really, I think we can all agree toddlers and infants should be banned from planes anyway.

Private Pansy

16:40

MBraedley

@KevinvanderVelden Maybe. It's a set of utility functions, and declaring PODs for each function gets messy. We already have that problem with other legacy code, where we have a bunch of relatively useless structs. Abstraction upon abstraction that isn't necessary.

fredley

@Sterno Best way of catching terrorists AFAIK is selecting people who have studied in London universities

Sterno

Also, if I want to stop someone from drawing on the wall with crayons, I'll have better luck keeping an eye on the toddlers than on the adults. SOME PROFILING CAN BE OKAY

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley aah, small utillity functions I get, I thought it was an API with more things like that, it'd be better to say ( XYPosition, LatitudeLongtitude ) vs ( double, double, double, double )

murgatroid99

@Sterno Basically, age profiling is OK

Sterno

16:44

It's just incredibly hard to do without being a dick

Jason Berkan

@Sterno My kids: That's not fair! Me: Life ain't fair.

murgatroid99

There's a reason that they have looser security requirements for children going through airport security

Yuuki

@JasonBerkan "It's a dictatorship, not a democracy."

Jason Berkan

"Life isn't fair" and "Suck it up, princess" are probably my two most comment Dad statements.

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Sterno

> This year, the eagerly anticipated Adventure Y will finally navigate the dark underground caverns of development and venture out into the Sword Coast. We’ve mentioned before that Adventure Y will be an addition to the Baldur’s Gate line using the Infinity engine, bridging the gap between Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition and Baldur’s Gate II: Enhanced Edition.

Kevin van der Velden

16:46

HOME TIME

Cya chat

Sterno

If you're going to announce your new game, use the real name instead of "Adventure Y"

MBraedley

@KevinvanderVelden It's all internal code. If I were to rewrite it, I may use a set of stucts like that. We're not really doing that in many other places though, and consistency is also something to strive for.

fredley

@Sterno WAT

@Sterno OMG

@Sterno SO EXCITE

Sterno

@fredley If it's bridging the gap, it must take you from level 5 to level 5

fredley

@Sterno WOW

Kevin van der Velden

16:47

INB4: Fredley changes to the spacehamster again

fredley

MINSC AND BOO STAND READY

@KevinvanderVelden AND THAT'S MINIATURE GIANT SPACE HAMSTER TO YOU

Sterno

Seriously though, I wonder if it's some full game, or like an hour long DLC

If it's a full game, it's really got to be totally different characters

fredley

NEW DLC FOR BG:II? WOULD BUY

yisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Sterno

@fredley Did you see this preview video for it?

fredley

[Epilepsy warning] Does this make your monitor make a noise?

@Sterno DAMN YOU STERNO I WAS SO EXCITED

D:

I HATE EVERYTHING

Sterno

16:51

BEST DAY EVER

fredley

*bursts into tears*

Batophobia

@fredley MY EYES!!!

Rapitor

@fredley you haven't learned yet you cant accept any links from @Sterno on fridays?

Jason Berkan

Twice in one day? That's awesome.

Batophobia

YOU MONSTER

Yuuki

16:53

> you haven't learned yet you can't accept any links from @Sterno ~~on fridays~~?

user4704

@fredley Yeeeees.

fredley

@Batophobia It feels like juicing my eyes on a lemon juicer

@JoshPetrie BUTT-KICKING, FOR GOODNESS!

user4704

I haven't even played through all the EE versions.

fredley

@JoshPetrie me neither. Working through on my tablet atm

user4704

I just bought them all to help ensure they got to make a new one.

Yuuki

16:54

@Sterno But what if the real name is "Adventure Y"?

fredley

> That's my question about these guys. If we know they were speaking unaccented French and they had ski masks on, do we even know what color they were, what the tone of their skin was? I mean, what if they didn't look like typical bad guys? As we define them when we think about terror groups. -- Fox News

@Yuuki Adventurey

user4704

...

Batophobia

That's a nifty looking router

MBraedley

@fredley WTF does a "typical bad guy" look like?

fredley

@MBraedley Yeah quite. Fox News seems to know, anyway.

Sterno

16:58

@fredley That's so 20 minutes ago

Jason Berkan

Also, WTF is unaccented French? Does anyone speak without an accent?

fredley

@JasonBerkan Just like unaccented American

user4704

@JasonBerkan Yes.

user4704

Anybody who speaks with the same accent as you.

fredley

Luckily English does come with an unaccented version

Batophobia

16:59

@JasonBerkan Monotone people?

user4704

:P

Yuuki

> Je vous aiderai.

No accents there.

user4704

(you know, kind of like how you can't smell yourself)

fredley

Received Pronunciation

Received Pronunciation (RP) is regarded as the standard accent of Standard English in the United Kingdom, with a relationship to regional accents similar to the relationship in other European languages between their standard varieties and their regional forms. RP is defined in the Concise Oxford English Dictionary as "the standard accent of English as spoken in the south of England", although it can be heard from native speakers throughout England and Wales. Peter Trudgill estimated in 1974 that 3% of people in Britain were RP speakers. Although nothing intrinsic about RP marks it as superior to...

MBraedley

@Batophobia No, you can still have British and American monotone accents

Yuuki

16:59

@fredley All American is unaccented. Except for those weird loanwords.

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