The Bridge

badp

12:00 PM

That's crimethink!

Frank

12:33 PM

One of my friends from dancing does face painting. I suggested she do Attack on Titan.

This is what we got:

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Arperum

@Wipqozn But I did! Hah!

... DAMMIT Stackoverflow!

@Frank Yes, I could see that.

Frank

Its doing something funny with displaying pics.

Upload in case the FB link stops doing something funky because Facebook.

badp

I had fixed that for you, but oh well

Frank

Oh. Well, that would explain the confusion.

Unionhawk

Best ice bucket challenge.

badp

12:43 PM

The best ice bucket challenge is no ice bucket challenge

fredley

@Frank That's awesome

Pls to post photo with gaping mouth

GnomeSlice

shinessthegame.com/home

Unionhawk

Agree, but done in Minecraft is pretty good too

Fluttershy

@badp I think @spugsley would disagree with you on the best Ice Bucket Challenge.

Also... Why does SwiftKey automatically capitalize that?

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy I assume that guy who played Loki did one?

Stack Exchange

12:54 PM

Sterno has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

Wipqozn

Oh right, I wasn't a room owner before because of that terrible monster @fredley.

Oh no it was because of me making a joke about mistaking @StrixVaria for omega.

badp

You're calling a fellow moderator "terrible monster"?

Wipqozn

Well, I still blame @fredley.

badp

that was a close call

fredley

wordperhect.net

Fluttershy

12:57 PM

@Wipqozn You assume correctly.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Understandable. Tom Hiddelston is pretty dreamy.

I hope I remember his name correctly.

Also I probably spelled it wrong if I did.

Sterno

Stuff like this annoys me:

> Steve-O questioned the campaign, suggesting that celebrities' videos generally forgot to share donation information for ALS charities, and that the $15 million dollars in funds is insignificant, given the star power of the celebrities participating.

"Sure, you're raising awareness and giving money, but not enough, you heartless bastards!"

Rapitor

15mil is still a-friggin-lot

Wipqozn

@Sterno Who is Steve-O, and why is he such an asshole?

Fluttershy

@Sterno I can kinda see where he's coming from. I mean... Lady Gaga didn't speak at all in her video, so anyone watching it would potentially have no idea what she was doing.

fredley

1:03 PM

@Rapitor It depends what it's for. Biomedical research is hellaspensive

Fluttershy

But still... That's a pretty significant amount of money.

Rapitor

@Fluttershy does anyone ever have an idea on what she does?

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn He was a moron who got famous through Jackass.

Like Johnny Knoxville, but less successful afterward.

Sterno

@Fluttershy Sure, people could do it better. But it annoys me to no end when someone does something good and people just bitch about how they could have done it better.

Of course, this is all from a wikipedia article so who knows what the context was.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Didn't that get cancelled after one of the people from the show got themselves killed?

Fluttershy

1:05 PM

@Wipqozn It ended way before that. A couple of years earlier, I think.

@Sterno On this, we agree. And on plenty of other things as well, probably.

Sterno

@Fluttershy Like how that @Wipqozn guy is a huge jerk.

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Wipqozn

@Sterno I agree!

Man, I hate that Wipqozn guy. He's the worst.

Sterno

You'll star anything with your name in it, won't you?

Wipqozn

In fact, I heard a humour that he's secretly GigaHitler.

@Sterno I wasn't the one who starred that.

Rapitor

humour?

Wipqozn

1:08 PM

It was probably @OrigamiRobot.

Sterno

Whether or not that's true, I'm going to pretend it's not true.

Rapitor

rumor...

Sterno

Why do some of the top google image search hits for "gigahitler" come up with "your mama" jokes?

The rest seem to be Hitler vs Santa Claus

WTF, Internet.

Wipqozn

@Sterno The duel between Hitler and Santa Claus is one of th emost important moments in history.

badp

1:22 PM

Wipqozn

@badp Dr. Hedgehog seems really upset.

Powerlord

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Tomorrow...

Sterno

Now that I'm playing more of it, I can say that Divinity: Original Sin is pretty fun.

Unionhawk

Must not kill everyone...

Matt Эллен

@Unionhawk then you'd be all alone

Wipqozn

1:29 PM

@Sterno I should add that to my wishlist at some point.

Frank

@Sterno Wait, you're playing a game for more than five minutes?

Sterno

@Frank Yes. The upside to having a new baby is that I get some time off work, and the baby sleeps a lot. This adds up to GAMING TIME

Frank

@Sterno And lots of sleeplessness.

Sterno

Yeah, well.

Wipqozn

@Sterno You get time off work?

I thought the USA was completely ass backwards and didn't have paternity leave. Only maternity leave.

And even then only something ridiculous like 2 weeks of it.

Sterno

1:33 PM

@Wipqozn You don't get paid for it

But by law they are required to let you take it

And for up to at least 6 weeks (maybe more)

Women get disability during that time, I believe

Men do not

LessPop_MoreFizz

Useful reaction GIF that I am retaining for future use: uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/…

Frank

@Sterno So, a six week unpaid vacation?

Sterno

Up to 12 weeks a year

@Frank Well, I'm only doing 2.5 weeks, but yeah.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@wipqozn just because paternity leave isn't mandated by law doesn't mean that some jobs don't offer it.

Sterno

And most of it is covered by my actual vacation time

Frankly, I'm okay with my work not paying me for time off for a child.

Martin Sojka

1:36 PM

We have up to 26 ... months.

Paid, as well.

Sterno

@MartinSojka 26 months a year is a lot of months a year.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Best ice bucket challenge is people failing at the ice bucket challenge.

Martin Sojka

@Sterno 26 months a child.

Wipqozn

@MartinSojka 26 months a child is a lot.

I would assume government funded day care would make more sense.

LessPop_MoreFizz

26 months is enough to just daisy chaining leave as you keep producing children.

Sterno

1:38 PM

@MartinSojka That's insane.

Martin Sojka

@Wipqozn There are limits to that (it's only 26 months if the parents split the time, and only if only if you keep working part-time), but 14 months is "normal".

Wipqozn

@MartinSojka 14 months makes more sense.

I think in Canada you can get up to 50 weeks, if you count maternity leave as well.

Sterno

14 months is still insane.

My company would collapse if we could all take 14 months paid time off every time someone had a child

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz You can probably combine them, and end up with leave until retirement.

Wipqozn

I think it's 35 weeks which can be split between the father and mother, and the mother gets an extra 15 weeks just because, so a total of 50 weeks.

Martin Sojka

1:40 PM

@Sterno It's paid for by the state (= all tax payers), there's a specific fund set up for that.

Sterno

Okay. That's different, then.

Though my company would still be hurting, for reasons other than paying the time off, if we could all disappear for 14 months at a time and be guaranteed our jobs back at the end of it

Martin Sojka

Somehow, the German economy seems to work fine regardless.

fredley

@Sterno The burden is shared by all, therefore no company has an unfair disadvantage in dealing with it

Yay socialism

Sterno

I'm not talking about the economy. I'm just saying the company would have to build in more redundancy to be able to deal with that.

fredley

@Sterno Fair enough

Sterno

1:45 PM

I mean, that's not always a bad idea anyway. Someone critical might get hit by a bus. But we're all fairly young and cranking out babies left and right. I bet 20% of my company would be absent right now

fredley

Bus factor

In software development, a software project's bus factor (also known as truck factor, or bus/truck number or lottery factor) is a measurement of the concentration of information in individual team members. The bus factor is the total number of key developers who would need to be incapacitated (for example, by getting hit by a bus/truck) to send the project into such disarray that it would not be able to proceed. In this event, the project would retain information (such as source code or other systems) with which no remaining team member is familiar. A high bus factor, where many individuals know...

Martin Sojka

As opposed to things like illnesses and accidents - which you have to guard against anyway - at least with pregnancies you typically have enough forewarning.

Powerlord

The project I currently work on has way too low a bus factor. Particularly when you consider this project generates the data that all our other applications use.

....wait...would it be low or high if only a few people who can disappear?

Oh right, it's not just our department either, it is also the base of a lot of the Michigan Department of Transportation's stuff, too.

Martin Sojka

It's a confusing name; I think "Bus Limit" would be better. The lower the worse.

Powerlord

Anyway, our bus limit is 2 with this application.

Frank

1:51 PM

Our bus limit is me.

Which is super scary, because I've only been here four months.

Powerlord

@Frank How important is this project? :O

Frank

@Powerlord It's not a project. It's keeping the software development and maintenance going plant-wide.

Sterno

Necromancer just raised a zombie pig. Skeleton archer shot a frost arrow at one of my guys, freezing him. Another skeleton tried to run up to stab him but slipped on the ice created from the frost arrow and fell on his ass. Yeah, I like Divinity: Original Sin.

5pike

@Sterno Was that scripted, or a normal encounter?

Powerlord

Oh, I noticed something amusing yesterday in TF2.

If you use the game's internal vote to attempt to kick a bot, it will record the bot as voting No on said vote despite bots not being able to vote.

Sterno

2:01 PM

@5pike Normal

5pike

@Sterno Wow, that's neat.

Good afternoon all

Hullo.

Afternoon

@Sterno That seems... Oddly impressive for a kickstarted game. It's minor, but it's a nice touch!

Wipqozn

2:07 PM

@FAE Good Morning you mean.

Frank

@FAE Morning

Fluttershy

Bridge, I have a terrible predicament.

Fantasy Life releases on the same day as Freedom Wars... I don't know which one to get.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Freedom Wars. I have no intention of picking up Fantasy life for a while, so yo ushould wait untilI get it.

Fluttershy

Make that four days apart.

Wipqozn

A game is funner when you play it with friends after all.

Rapitor

2:17 PM

@Fluttershy why not both?

fredley

@Sterno This game looks really good

Fluttershy

@Rapitor Money.

Frank

@Wipqozn Freedom Wars is a multiplayer game, no?

Wipqozn

@Frank I'm not sure, but no one else has a vita except @Fluttershy anyways.

Fluttershy

@Frank It has a single player element as well.

Wipqozn

2:19 PM

@Fluttershy is literally the only person in existence with one.

Frank

@Wipqozn I've got one.

Specifically for yesterday's game.

FAE

@Wipqozn I do

Wipqozn

@Frank No you don't.

:17245021

well that didn't wokr

well in anycase, my point still stands

wait until whenever I happen to decide to buy fantasy life

Frank

@Fluttershy Speaking of, Hollow Fragment is pretty decent.

It's like a super colorful .Hack

Sterno

My paladin is also wearing smelly panties because, hey, +1 charisma!

Wipqozn

2:22 PM

@Sterno That makes no sense.

Sterno

@Wipqozn Depends what they smell like.

Maybe bacon

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Martin Sojka

Maybe they smell like ... victory.

Powerlord

Reading last night's tech news and saw this.

> Netflix CEO On Net Neutrality: Large ISPs Are the Problem

You might as well say "Netflix CEO On Water Neutrality: Water is wet"

Frank

@Powerlord That doesn't make it any less true.

The large ISPs ARE the problem.

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord yes, except this is a world where most people have no idea what water actuall yis

Powerlord

2:34 PM

@Frank Yes and its blindingly obvious and doesn't need to be restated.

@KevinvanderVelden Been watching Idiocracy again?

Frank

@Powerlord Studies have actually shown that the more you state something, the more people believe it.

The accuracy or truth of the statement is irrelevant. Just saying it is what matters.

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord No, I'm pointing out the problem with your analogy

That is: Most people do not know that ISPs are the problem

They do not know what net neutrality is, nor even truly what the internet is

Rapitor

a lot of people still don't even understand net neutrality is a thing

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden Nor how net neutrality is the backbone of the Internet.

Batophobia

@KevinvanderVelden It's a series of tubes

Powerlord

2:40 PM

@KevinvanderVelden If people didn't listen to Netflix the last time they said this (heck, it wasn't even a month ago), why would they listen now?

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord repetition repetition repetition

Private Pansy

Someone actually wrote a shipfic based on the board configuration of an actual game of TSSSF

And I'm reading it right now

...

What has my life come to?

Kevin van der Velden

Terrible terrible things apparently

FAE

giant doggy :3

Rapitor

that's a bear

Frank

2:48 PM

Woo! Just got my business cards.

Ampt

@Frank Yeah but how's the coloring?

Powerlord

@PrivatePansy I... have no idea what TSSSF is.

Ampt

Does it have a watermark?

Frank

@Ampt Considering all we do is print color, quite good.

Ampt

The thickness... would you describe it as, say, tasteful?

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Private Pansy

2:51 PM

@Powerlord tsssf-tcg.tumblr.com/about

Powerlord

@PrivatePansy Mmmmmmkay

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy ... Now I have that in my browser history. Thanks.

Ampt

Yeah man, mark that as NSFW. I don't want my IT admin stopping by my cube asking questions

FEichinger

... To be fair, if you're opening tumblr on a work PC, you're already making a mistake.

Private Pansy

Not NSFW (all cards and art are strictly Teen rated, at most), but probably NSFL

Kevin van der Velden

2:55 PM

Also, you're clicking on a link from a context about shipfics... duh?

Lazers

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Q: Does it change the dialogs or options depending on the leader?

In the Tactics menu you can change the leader of the party, being the one at front while walking around, and the one interacting with the people and objects. Does the selected leader changes the dialogs in the game? Or more important thing: Does one leader over another grant more possibilities (...

doom-and-destiny

Powerlord

@KevinvanderVelden That doesn't necessarily mean the link in question is related to shipfics

I could write a shipfic about an episode of Star Trek. ships Polaski and Picard

Private Pansy

Oh god, they've shipped three different versions of Applejack together with her brother *throws up in a bucket*

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord Hmm true enough, can't really judge that given that I know what TSSSF is

@PrivatePansy well, that went places

I'm not sure those are good places

Private Pansy

Then they dropped a Changeling-turned-Applejack so that there's four Applejacks shipped together in a chain, just to complete the goal requiring six earth ponies be in play

Which is really clever and really creepy at the same time

Lazers

3:04 PM

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Q: Using an external tool to store items/weapons

A long time ago diablo 2 had an external tool called ATMA, which you could use to store items outside of the game. Which removed the need for mule characters. I was wondering if borderlands 2 has a similar tool. So a program that you use to store your weapons/items outside of the game. Not using...

borderlands-2

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy Okay, let me just ask one question ...

Why are you reading that?!

Kevin van der Velden

For the hilarious awefullness!

I'd read it for that

Powerlord

Is it going home time ye... oh wait, no, I'm only 2 hours into an 8 hour shift (8.5 if you count lunch).

Kevin van der Velden

Though I'd have stopped at the 3 applejacks thing

badp

I've developed a way to get out of TvTropes

Private Pansy

3:07 PM

Because it is one of the single most absurd funny creepy awful disgusting ridiculous thing I've read in a while

Also, because TSSSF is awesome and terrible

badp

1. Only ever open TvTropes in incognito mode
2. If you find yourself trying to open a link in incognito mode from incognito mode, you've gone too far; close the window immediately; no regrets.

Kevin van der Velden

Aah, I'd have just flipped all the breaker switches, safest way to be sure

Rapitor

samus alt costume in new smash revealed, let the "oversexualization" crying begin

fredley

@badp Too bad, the new-tab opening process does not change

Middle click on link, opens right where you expect it

FAE

@Rapitor Y'know, being outright dismissive like that is really rude.

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Rapitor

3:13 PM

sorry, but I do find it inevitable nowadays

badp

@fredley If you want to avoid that, just change the hosts file. Incognito-in-incognito is a good moment to realize you've gone too far.

Kevin van der Velden

@Rapitor well that's because it's often appropriate

Frank

I really wish Samus would get some new armor. I love the aesthetics of how it looks.

fredley

@badp The thing is, I can see how opening TVTropes only in incognito might work, but I'd only ever do that when accessing it from outside TVT in the first place

badp

@Rapitor That point was even made on Nerf Now, a comic that's known for its shameless wall-breaking fan service

Martin Sojka

3:15 PM

@Rapitor Shoddy texture work. That's Samus, she needs more clearly defined muscles, especially in the upper legs and abdomen area.

badp

@fredley Do you actually visit TvTropes?

Like, out of the blue?

fredley

@badp Yes

FAE

@Rapitor Maybe because, like how @Kevin said, it applies so often?

fredley

@badp oh no

But when I go on TVTropes I'm always opening new tabs with middle click

It gives my middle finger a workout

badp

@fredley yeah, but eventually you'll find yourself at a link you'd rather open in incognito

Kevin van der Velden

3:16 PM

@fredley ctrl + leftclick ftw

Frank

Then again, I kinda liked how Other M tried to make her more human.

fredley

@badp Oh I see. I never do that anyway.

badp

Shamelessness doesn't help.

fredley

@badp I mean what's the worst that could hap... Oh God Google Now

NOT INTERESTED

badp

"Updates to websites you have visited recently"

fredley

3:18 PM

"Based on your browsing habits, are you interested in this?"

badp

meanwhile, Saint Petersburg is now in Mini Metro.

Not sure what's with those river lines though.

Also that triangle-circle distribution is bloody awful

FAE

@badp How's the Early Access version? I haven't picked it up yet, though I did play the website version for a while.

badp

@FAE Overall I find it's a little harder (or maybe I'm just rusty); my overall high score is 2.6k on NY

Right now it's got four cities: Paris (hard), New York (easy), London (easy-ish), St Petersburg (-typo)

Powerlord

Bah, someone mentioned Metroid and now I have the Brinstar theme from 1/Zero Mission stuck in my head.

FAE

@badp Cool, I didn't know they were going to have separate cities.

Frank

3:21 PM

@Powerlord There are worse things to listen to.

badp

Four more are on the main menu, too, but unplayable as of yet.

Frank

Speaking of, I should find me some Metroid music to listen to for the day.

@Wipqozn?

FEichinger

@badp Leningrad.

badp

Auckland, Shanghai, Cairo, one more I can't remember

Martin Sojka

Since that's a fighting game, this kind of muscle tone would be appropriate, I think:

badp

3:22 PM

The upgrades are structured this way: every week, a locomotive and a choice between two of three options: line, carriage × 2, tunnel × 2

Powerlord

...and now my head moved on to the Final Fantasy overture.

Ronan Forman

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badp

(Yes: it is possible to run out of locomotives and draw lines where no service can actually run)

Kevin van der Velden

Also, naah global warming isn't real:

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden That reminds me, I haven't read the latest What If yet.

Kevin van der Velden

3:32 PM

It's not up yet so that's okay

Powerlord

California can borrow my rain if they want it.

Actually, they could borrow the 14 feet of water that submerged the I-75/I-696 interchange last week too.

Kevin van der Velden

Nice,daily deal, 2 32 gigabyte USB sticks. Recommended price: 29.99, now for: uuh 29.99 (+shipping)!

Noctrine

We never asked for California's rain :\

Powerlord

OK, I'm confused because this article mentions I-75 and I-94 both.

Kevin van der Velden

Hometime!

Cya chat

Martin Sojka

3:34 PM

@Powerlord If you think you have it bad, the Brits just bombed one of our main highways, the A3.

Noctrine

I-75 was like a lake, 94 was more like a river

Martin Sojka

Thanks, guys!

Powerlord

Well, the weird thing is, I'm an hour drive from that area and we had no flooding at all here.

GnomeSlice

Made Hamburger Helper last night and apparently forgot to put the leftovers in the fridge

FEichinger

@MartinSojka Sorry, not sorry.

Jason Berkan

3:38 PM

@GnomeSlice Heh. I once put leftover chicken in a container and then shoved that container back in the cupboard.

GnomeSlice

@JasonBerkan Hah.

Frank

Three downvotes on three questions within two seconds.

Yep, that's serial downvoting, alright.

Rapitor

@GnomeSlice on a scale of 1 to death, how was the smell

GnomeSlice

Didn't smell too bad.

FAE

@JasonBerkan oh god whyyyyyyyyyyy

GnomeSlice

3:39 PM

Wasn't gonna eat it though.

Powerlord

@Frank Well, at least they're not putting cornflakes on them as well. Because a serial cereal downvoting would be even worse.

FAE

@GnomeSlice don't don't don't

GnomeSlice

Dark Spirit Michael Bay has Invaded!

Frank

@Powerlord Ow.

GnomeSlice

huehue

Frank

3:39 PM

That's @Wipqozn levels of bad pun.

Jason Berkan

@FAE I'm really not certain what I was thinking. Luckily we found it within a day, so it wasn't too bad to deal with.

FAE

@JasonBerkan Guuuuh

Martin Sojka

I once forgot fresh kidney (for the cats) in the fridge. For ... about a month. Getting rid of it wasn't the easiest.

At least it was nicely liquefied ...

Fluttershy

Yikes... Fresh kidneys smell terrible. I can't imagine how month old ones smell. I... Don't want to, actually.

Martin Sojka

About the same as several months old rotten flesh.

GnomeSlice

3:43 PM

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I hope it gets an English version

Wipqozn

@Frank: I've been afk, but you shoudl listen to the OST for Super Metroid.

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Frank

@Wipqozn Yay! Thank you!

Rapitor

@GnomeSlice pretty art style

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Super Meroid Symphony by Blake Robinson

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GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Blake Robinson!

badp

3:47 PM

Correction: Hong Kong, not Shanghai

Wipqozn

@Frank You're welcome.

@RonanForman This aso works.

Frank

@Wipqozn But requires money.

And is not something I want to deal with while at work.

Wipqozn

@RonanForman In fact I'm listening to this instead of Liszt.

@Frank You can listen for free.

You need to pay if you want to download it, but not stream.

badp

Frank

@Wipqozn Oh! So you can! Missed that.

Wipqozn

3:49 PM

@Frank Yeah, I missed it at first too.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn No, you can only hear 30 second snippets of each track.

Wipqozn

@RonanForman Oh, wel then.

Frank

@RonanForman Well, that's silly.

Back to @Wipqozn's link, then.

Fluttershy

Super Meroid had the best music.

Wipqozn

I've been meaning to pick up some of this guys music though, because he's really good.

@Fluttershy Nintendo games often do, I find.

Metroid is among their best though.

Frank

3:52 PM

Dammit. Now I want another Metroid game.

Nintendo, make it happen!

Wipqozn

@Frank That reminds me, I should probably play The Other M at some point, and then be sad at how samus was ruine.

Ronan Forman

@Frank And now Nintendo are using two analogue sticks, you'll actually be able to aim!

badp

Meanwhile on Reddit

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Powerlord

@badp I could actually see that image until you edited it.

badp

@Powerlord chat.stackexchange.com/messages/17247905/history

murgatroid99

3:55 PM

@badp Man, it must suck to not be able to multiply by anything but 10

badp

@murgatroid99 That does sound like a more polite way of saying "go fuck yourself"

Powerlord

@badp Do I need to point out that calorie isn't a Metric unit of measurement?

murgatroid99

@badp I was talking about the claim of "you can't directly relate any of those quantities"

Powerlord

Whoops, nevermind, I'm thinking of Calorie.

Martin Sojka

@Powerlord Yeah, seriously. That part is goofed up.

Powerlord

3:57 PM

Because having two units of measurement with the same name is such a great idea.

Martin Sojka

Calorie isn't metric; Joule is.

badp

"Although these units are part of the metric system, they have been superseded in the International System of Units by the joule." says Wikipedia

FEichinger

> The small calorie or gram calorie (symbol: cal) is the approximate amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius.

More important part in relation to the image.

Martin Sojka

Yep. They're obsolete. Not to be used. Non-official.

Seriously, the last thing metric units need are two different units for such a basic thing as energy.

Powerlord

Also, I've always been confused as to why 1mL is 1cm³ and not 1mm³

Lazers

3:59 PM

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Q: How do I tell if I'm (not) gaining Sneak XP?

I want to disprove a claim that Sneak XP can be earned by sneaking around a corpse. However, I may run (or crawl) into complication in measurement. Is the only way to check if I'm gaining Sneak XP by whether or not it levels up or by visually comparing the Sneak XP bar in the Skills/Stats menu?

skyrim

fredley

@MartinSojka You know what units heating bills come in right?

@MartinSojka In the UK at least

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