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Lazers

17:00

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Q: What is the best overall youth / first team training camp in Fifa Manager 11?

With so many choices I'm not sure what to choose. Which camp is the overall best one for the youth team and first team in Fifa Manager?

fifa-manager-2011

badp

@Powerlord Given that the new rule has been added for F2P games, I actually think the rule forbids games from shipping with an autoupdater.

If you are coming through Steam, all your bits will go through Steam. Period. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Powerlord

@badp As far as I know, all MMO games ship with their own auto-updaters, including Spiral Knights.

badp

Spiral Knights only does patching and validation steps.

Wipqozn

I still can't wrap my head around that. It's your customer service page. This means there is a good chance someone visiting this page is pissed at your company, so shoving ads in their face will just make it worse.

badp

I haven't seen it download anything.

Obviously autoupdaters typically include advertisement positions you may have to stare at for some time.

Need For Speed: World uses its autoupdater to shove paid bonuses in your face, e.g.

I think the LoL launcher does the same, although not as much

Wipqozn

17:03

@badp "Hey! Thanks for buying our product! NOW BUY ALL OF THESE TOO!"

badp

@Wipqozn NFS:World is F2P, P2W

Wipqozn

@badp It is? :/

@badp Ah okay, that makes more sense.

badp

Yes. Unless you play Pursuit or Group Pursuit

then you're either playing alone, or playing with and not against other people.

Group Pursuit is actually quite fun.

Mana ಠдಠ

They added a group pursuit mode? That sounds pretty cool.

Wipqozn

@Manaಠдಠ you sound pretty cool

Mana ಠдಠ

17:05

Pursuit was the only reason I ever played NFS:World

@Wipqozn Thank you! :)

badp

@Manaಠдಠ It is.

Wipqozn

To be honest, I've never even heard of it before. Probably because I strongly dislike the NFS series.

badp

The drawback is you have to do the pursuit along "railroads"

Mana ಠдಠ

@badp Oh...lame.

badp

Not really, I can't imagine how you could do it otherwise

Basically you have this looooooong track filled to brim with roadblock and police cars.

There's a time limit and a finish line.

Hit the finish lime in the time limit and you magically evade.

user30

17:07

@badp that's the most fucking stupid thing I've read all year

badp

The more people evade the more/better goodies each person gets.

user30

esp. the comparison to Gamestop and Amazon

badp

So while you'll get idiots trying to ram you into the walls, resisting your takeovers, people will actually want you to succeed

Mana ಠдಠ

@Thomas I found that a lot more amusing when I thought you were replying to "Hit the finish line in the time limit and you magically evade"

badp

And people in front will have to do all the hard risky work of smashing through.

@Manaಠдಠ Especially when you're racing at 70kmh on two wheels at heat 4

user30

17:10

Most Wanted was the peak of that series

badp

I wonder if NFS:World has added helis already, but I think the game's been pretty much abandoned.

Brant

Yeah, plenty of Steam MMOs use their own updaters... But I can't think of any non-MMOs offhand </late>

badp

@Brant I guess they cannot change terms for games put on before the policy change

user30

wow, so I left a textbook open for a week, and I can't close it now ಠ_ಠ

badp

but I'd hate the thought of using an launcher + auto-updater to launch a launcher + auto-updater

Brant

17:11

Yeah.

FallenAngelEyes

@Brant Most non-MMO/multiplayer games don't patch as often, so they don't really need it

user20683

You have to use Europa Universalis's Launcher to patch it

user20683

though the launcher has to be done manually

Powerlord

@Brant Non-MMOs aren't updated that often. Except TF2, which is a Valve game already.

Wipqozn

may interest some: Stanford offers free online class on AI

Brant

17:14

TF2 updates through steam.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn I heard about that a while back.

user30

no multiline markdown

GnomeSlice ツ

Hey @Powerlord, this made me think of you.

Wipqozn

@ThomasMcDonald thanks

Brant

I can't think of any (recent, non-MMO) games that have their own external updaters though.

GnomeSlice ツ

17:14

Wipqozn

@GnomeSliceツ inb4 that is powerlord

badp

I wish my mobile didn't need to act as a deep packet inspector and mangler

user20683

@Wipqozn I already signed up

badp

although... although then Steam would download hundreds of MBs of TF2 updates through Steam.

I guess it's a double edged weapon.

GnomeSlice ツ

Mana ಠдಠ

17:17

@GnomeSlice Please tell me that wasn't one of your tags.

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ I'd like to.

Raven Dreamer

Ha.

Mana ಠдಠ

My fist is going to be shattered from slamming it into your tags' nether-regions soon, you realize?

Wait, that sounds wrong. Horribly wrong.

Raven Dreamer

So after everyone left the chatroom last night, I used Dwarf @Mana and Dwarf @GnomeSlice to chase elephants into cage traps. Now I've got 12 elephants locked in cages.

I think we will eat them.

Wipqozn

I understand now why we can't allow silent tagging. Thanks for teaching me @GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice ツ

17:20

@Wipqozn Silent tagging?

Wipqozn

@RavenDreamer anything special happening with Dwarf @Wipqozn?

Mana ಠдಠ

@Raven Sounds like a plan. Thanks for reminding me about what I have to do today, too.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSliceツ to retag without bumping to the front page

GnomeSlice ツ

@RavenDreamer Which one of us trapped more elephants?

Wipqozn

@Manaಠдಠ play DF?

Raven Dreamer

17:20

@Wipqozn He got corrupted and I had to restart. :/

GnomeSlice ツ

@Wipqozn Actually, I didn't retag it with ithingy, I asked it with it.

So it would have been on the front page anyway.

Raven Dreamer

I do have a new militiadwarf I can name after you, however.

GnomeSlice ツ

That happened a while ago.

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice It was sort of a group effort.

Wipqozn

@RavenDreamer well dang

GnomeSlice ツ

17:21

@RavenDreamer Good work, team.

badp

Thank you, Steam, for letting me know the 3,632 untranslated game marketing blurbs are now 3,636

Raven Dreamer

Additionally, I think the embark screen lied to me. I was promised metal, but all I have is coal. :(

GnomeSlice ツ

@RavenDreamer Coal is more useful.

user30

@badp get on with it then

GnomeSlice ツ

►

Old King Coal: Grubby Boiler Monarch

badp

17:23

@ThomasMcDonald Nah. All we need is 3,632 people who would like to become Steam translators for Italian.

GnomeSlice ツ

Wait, how come retagging the Raptor Safari question pushed it to the front page?

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice - coal is only more useful if you have a reason to use it. It's like finding a cache of iceskates in Egypt. Sure, they might be useful, if you were ever to go iceskating... but you're never going iceskating because there's no ice to be found.

@GnomeSlice any edits to anything push it to the frontpage.

badp

@GnomeSliceツ Retags are edits. Edits push to the frontpage.

Raven Dreamer

Also, Banjo-Tooie == Awesome.

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GnomeSlice ツ

I thought we had 'silent retagging' now.

Raven Dreamer

17:25

Whoops. Here come more elephants.

user30

@GnomeSliceツ WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THAT

GnomeSlice ツ

user30

gawd

GnomeSlice ツ

I think the subsequent variations of this logo are going to be better.

user30

oh ffs

user30

17:26

why is my user profile not loading

user30

let me log on and play tf2 :(

GnomeSlice ツ

How come replies to things I post always get starred.

But not the thing that I posted which elicited the reply.

Powerlord

@GnomeSliceツ Because... we don't like you and want to make you jealous.

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GnomeSlice ツ

ಠ_ಠ

Powerlord

(I knew someone would star that. ;D)

GnomeSlice ツ

17:27

@Powerlord ಥ_ಥ

user30

How long can a tag wiki be?

Ronan Forman

@FallenAngelEyes But you could tell them that...

badp

Wiki or Wiki excerpt?

user30

wiki

badp

no idea.

If you hit that length limit you're probably doing it wrong

GnomeSlice ツ

17:30

Mash keys on your keyboard until it says it's too long.

user30

but I want to hit the length limit because it would be amusing

GnomeSlice ツ

2 mins ago, by GnomeSlice ツ

Mash keys on your keyboard until it says it's too long.

Brant

@GnomeSliceツ Needs a hidden creeper face in the roots, like the QR Code

user30

but then it wouldn't be well structured

GnomeSlice ツ

@Brant Heh.

Wipqozn

17:33

@GnomeSliceツ We should probably just star everything that is a reply to something @GnomeSlice says

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GnomeSlice ツ

@Wipqozn Go away.

WHO STARRED THAT.

Brant

raises hand

Arda Xi

raises hand

Ronan Forman

reraises hand

Arda Xi

raises other hand

GnomeSlice ツ

17:34

x_x

Arda Xi

@RonanForman ...lowers?

Wipqozn

@GnomeSliceツ No.

badp

raises both hands

GnomeSlice ツ

@Wipqozn ಠ_ಠ

Arda Xi

@badp You win.

GnomeSlice ツ

17:35

WHO PINNED THAT.

ಠ_ಠ

Arda Xi

40 secs ago, by badp

raises both hands

badp

points with the first raised hand at the second hand raised

Wipqozn

I'm rather enjoying this.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSliceツ points at @badp's hand

GnomeSlice ツ

@Wipqozn Why is that that's always at my expense around here...

badp

17:36

@GnomeSliceツ You sound like @ArdaXi

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Lazers

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Q: Why does Age of Empires II think my disc isn't valid on one computer only?

I have the Age of Empires II Gold Edition which contains both Age of Empires II and the Conquerors discs. I have lost the Conquerors disc, so I am trying to play just Age of Empires II. However, on my laptop, if I run the Age of Empires II (not the expansion), it tells me "Please Insert the corre...

age-of-empires-2

Arda Xi

@badp No he doesn't.

If anything it's a cheap imitation.

badp

It still qualifies as 'like'

Powerlord

@Lazers @Macha You tried other discs on that computer to make sure the drive hasn't gone bad?

Arda Xi

@badp Only in the sense that Yahoo! Answers looks like StackExchange.

Also, if you're using pure white lighting, f.lux is useless.

flags as spam

FallenAngelEyes

17:39

@ArdaXi I had to stop using that because it overrode the gamma settings in my video games :(

GnomeSlice ツ

@ArdaXi =[

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, me too.

FallenAngelEyes

Using the option for turning it off for 60 minutes didn't work either, I had to completely kill the process. :/

So at that point I said fuck it

badp

@ArdaXi f.lux?

Arda Xi

F.lux.

flags

Mana ಠдಠ

17:43

raises hand

Ronan Forman

@fredley that's quite a puzzle, i can't do #1

FallenAngelEyes

It scares me how many 10 hour loops there are on youtube

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice It looks like there's a giant muscular creeper underneath the tree.

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Wipqozn

@RonanForman what puzzle is this now?

Ronan Forman

his adventure map

Wipqozn

17:46

@RonanForman oh okay, gotcha. Should give that a DL later.

Ronan Forman

2 hours ago, by fredley

Here's a link: http://goo.gl/T2Y3u

Raven Dreamer

Score! Caught a Giant Leopard.

Mana ಠдಠ

Awesome Elizabeth from Bioshock: Infinite cosplay

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ I think I like that for some of the wrong reasons.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSliceツ Such as?

Mana ಠдಠ

17:48

Don't worry, you're not alone. See? Here are a bunch of creepy comments from Reddit

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ Wait... his username...

"IT'S TIME [insert his username]"

ಠ_ಠ

Mana ಠдಠ

Yes, GnomeSlice. That is the point of his username.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSliceツ flags

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ I don't... did he make the username specifically for this post.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Could you pause saying anything for a bit? I need to go out and buy some more flags.

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GnomeSlice ツ

17:53

x_x

@ArdaXi Quiet, you.

user20683

/me lends ArdaXi a dozen flags

Arda Xi

@GnomeSliceツ No.

@WorldEngineer Thank you!

@GnomeSliceツ Talking back, are we? flags

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice Here is his account. I'm certain you'll figure it out.

user20683

Sics Fem-Shepard on him "Who's your favorite now? You pig!"

Mana ಠдಠ

Also, Reddit is a site filled to the brim with stupid novelty accounts.

GnomeSlice ツ

17:55

@Manaಠдಠ I can't tell if I should be disgusted or proud.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi You're going to make such a wonderful mod

Mana ಠдಠ

@WorldEngineer I've actually never done a Renegade playthrough of ME or ME2...I should.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn A vote for me is a vote against @GnomeSlice as a user!

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Wipqozn

@ArdaXi That should be your slogan.

Arda Xi

That sounds like a great slogan. I should make buttons.

Wipqozn

17:56

@ArdaXi We can sell them on the Gaming.SE store!

GnomeSlice ツ

@ArdaXi Wait... did I nominate? I don't remember.

...I hope nobody votes for me.

user20683

I have to support the home team, chapter 12

Wipqozn

@GnomeSliceツ Trust me, you don't need to worry.

GnomeSlice ツ

@WorldEngineer Okay Carlsson and Peters.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn I know a place where I can get custom mousepads with free worldwide shipping for very cheap.

user20683

17:57

See people get that joke here

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice You were pretty drunk at the time--oh my god BGAE

GnomeSlice ツ

@WorldEngineer No, just me and @Mana.

user20683

it's nice to not have to explain it

Raven Dreamer

My Femshep is a feisty Red head. No way that blonde bimbo is my Shepherd.

Wipqozn

@WorldEngineer could you explain it please?

Arda Xi

17:57

What's going on?

Mana ಠдಠ

heh

GnomeSlice ツ

@Wipqozn No

It would ruin it.

CARLSSON AND PEEETERRRRRS.

My father thought that was his name.

Mana ಠдಠ

@Wipqozn Just play Beyond Good And Evil. You won't regret it.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Mine is "A vote for me is a vote wasted, 'cause I'm not entering"

user20683

store.steampowered.com/app/15130/?snr=1_4_4__13

Wipqozn

17:58

@mana WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAAAAAGE

user20683

Here I'll make it easy

GnomeSlice ツ

@WorldEngineer No way. Play it on the Gamecube.

Arda Xi

Oh.

Wipqozn

@Manaಠдಠ I actually started playing it, but didn't get far. Another game on my to do list.

user20683

I have it for PS2 and PC

Mana ಠдಠ

17:58

$10 for Beyond Good And Evil?! Oh my god.

Wipqozn

@Manaಠдಠ It's also gone on sale several times

user20683

it also shows up on Gamersgate and GoG I think

GnomeSlice ツ

You can get the remastered HD version of the game on XBLA too.

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Q: Where are that Pig's Shoes?

If anybody remembers playing Beyond Good & Evil a while ago, maybe you can help me. I've just finished going through the Slaughterhouses, and am now told that I need to find the ship that Pey'j hid somewhere on the Home island. I've found the two hidden consoles beneath the boards depicting...

xbox-360 spoiler gamecube beyond-good-and-evil

CruelCow

@Manaಠдಠ Worth every penny

Mana ಠдಠ

Pig Shoes is a good indie band name

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