The Bridge

Sterno

12:01

@FAE You were at -3hp out of 71. After having already been shot and healed.

FAE

@Sterno ...holy shit. I don't really know anything about this game, incidentally, but negative health is always bad.

Sterno

At 0hp, you have a 50% chance of survival post-mission, and it drops every HP below that (though I'm not sure by how much... but people at -20 don't survive)

If it's any consolation, I won't let any other soldiers take your laser rifle with them out on missions. YOU EARNED THAT.

FAE

Oh wow.

Sterno

Even though we only have three.

FAE

:D

Kevin van der Velden

12:03

@Sterno pff, didn't you teach @FAE about sharing?

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden My laser rifle, mine!

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE didn't you learn anything from watching MLP?!

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden MLP didn't say anything about laser rifles.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Nah, it's just Chris from Alestorm doing crazy with a second band...

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE they really should've, would have drawn much more interest

FAE

12:08

Okay, time to head out and get my nails ~~mangled~~ painted.

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE have fun!

FAE

Shall try!

Lazers

0

Q: How do I unlock more bonus worlds in Metal Slug Defense?

In Metal Slug Defense for iPhone and Android the game sporadically tells you about a bonus world which will be playable for around 5 to 60 minutes. After freeing every Prisoner of War (POW) in each level of one bonus world the world becomes permanent playable and will not disappear anymore. My ...

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badp

12:30

@agent86 turns out I'll have to wait on the main quest storyline. My sneaking is abysmal and in my quest to go for highest numbers all I've got is heavy loud armor.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp pff, heavy armor wuss, get a magicka regen robe and summon minions to fight for you, much better :D

My current run is "Spawn minion, pelt enemy with arrows that are on fire, the minion is also on fire"

badp

but numbers!

Kevin van der Velden

@badp But lower weight means more loot!

badp

@KevinvanderVelden but sellers all have very limited cash supplies!

Kevin van der Velden

@badp I've not found that to be a problem, but then I play with a economy overhaul

badp

12:33

I have some valuable jewellery stashed in my house because I literally can't sell it

Kevin van der Velden

Jeah that happens sometimes

But in my experience that's mostly because there's like, one shop that buys that shit

Armor isn't an issue, scrolls generally aren't either, potions I dump at the alchemist and the general store

So many pretty bags :o

And books

Wipqozn

12:53

oh, btw @GnomeSlice, Secret of the Magic Crystal has multiplayer now.

@KevinvanderVelden that's relaly nice. Damn.

3

Yuuki

Soo... anyone have an extra #3 or #7 to trade for #9?

Wipqozn

@Yuuki Yeah, I do actually.

I have two of each actually.

As in two extra of each.

badp

SNEAK INCREASED TO 28

still can't sneak for shit

Sterno

That terror mission did not go well.

StrixVaria

@Sterno Xenonauts also has terror missions or are you back to XCOM?

Wipqozn

13:06

@StrixVaria Xenonauts has terror missions.

Sterno

Xenonauts is basically original XCOM remade

Wipqozn

Yeah, exactly. XCOM with better ui + some improved changes

StrixVaria

I never played the original.

Sterno

Original XCOM is like the one you played, except with more troops in battle at once, multiple bases (that you can put anywhere on the globe you want), aliens attacking your bases, multiple UFOs coming in from all over the place at once, aliens building bases if you don't shoot them down, and basically more everything

StrixVaria

@Sterno That sounds way more intense.

Sterno

13:08

It's pretty awesome.

and free targeting, so you can blow holes in walls, shoot cars, etc

I'm strongly considering hiring a squad of rookie soldiers equipped with c4 so that they can arm it and charge the enemy

Arperum

@badp Grab a bow and sneak attack random animals/bandits. that helps pretty good with raising your sneak.

agent86

@badp light armor FTW. if you build up your smithing skill, you can make some game-breakingly-powerful light armor.

StrixVaria

@Sterno Do it.

badp

BUT NUMBERS

Arperum

@Sterno Name all of them after mods.

Lazers

13:10

0

Q: CK2 - Goad foreign power into attacking.

So I noticed once upon a time, while defending Jerusalem from a Jihad that I was getting a +75 vassal opinion bonus from defending in a holy war. This came in handy when my character died and was replaced by his son in the middle of said war. Instead of panicking about huge negative opinion vas...

crusader-kings-2

StrixVaria

ALWAYS BE SNEAKING

Ben Brocka

The original XCOM looked amazing especially for it's time, but was really overwhelming and a bit too RNG based for me (having multiple people panic and shoot other squad members to death on the first map is annoying)

agent86

I am agent numbers, KING OF NUMBERS. I decree that light armor effin' ROCKS

badp

@StrixVaria ugh

agent86

dragur crypts FTW

Arperum

13:11

@StrixVaria yup, because running while sneaking is a thing.

agent86

also learn muffle

badp

also; getting disarmed sucks. Now where the hell is my one-handed

Sterno

Troops can panic in Xenonauts, but it's generally only if they're taking a lot of fire

StrixVaria

@badp It's a physics puzzle!

badp

@StrixVaria It would be if I didn't lose it a few minutes ago for this "boss" fight

Ben Brocka

13:12

IIRC in xcom they can panic on the first turn in combat

StrixVaria

@badp I lost a weapon permanently in a boss fight once.

Was it the guy who shouts at you from across the chasm?

agent86

you should add to the long list of "where is my weapon???" dupes on the site by asking it

badp

Nah. Just the one by the kill shout/beacon thing

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka The panic is one thing they improved. there are now 3 panic states: Panic, where they just lose a turn; Fleeing, where they drop their weapon and run for a turn; and Berserk, where they shoot someone at random. Panic is the most common of the three, following by fleeing, and following by Berserk in a distant third (I've only had it happen twice, and I've got over 20 hours).

Ben Brocka

Urg I hate that stuff too. I don't like any sort of permanent, not somewhat easily avoidable losses

Arperum

13:13

Due to the electricy company that decided yesterday that it as a good day to start making holes in my wall and switch some cabling out I had to make a couple rooms empty so they could actually do it today, so I missed the SGDQ run I wanted to see :(

Ben Brocka

@Wipqozn maybe I was unlucky but I recall virtually every panic resulting in someone shooting someone else, usually to death in Xcom 1

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka I'm takin about Xenonauts, not the original.

5pike

@Arperum I bet you can re-watch it later.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp light armor!

Arperum

I got literaly 5 minute warning about "yea, we want to replace that electric thing in your house, but the new one doesn't fit in the same spot, can we start making holes in your wall to mount the new one on some other spot?"

Ben Brocka

13:14

@Wipqozn oh I figured you meant newxcom which I also haven't played

agent86

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badp

@KevinvanderVelden but playing the whole game crouched is awful

StrixVaria

@badp It's a toggle, at least, so you don't have to constantly hold the crouch button. And it's not as low as crouching in other games.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp play half the game crouched!

Arperum

I was like "No you don't, I decide where you'll place the new thing. WHen do you people start tomorrow, I have to leave at 8:30AM, then I can see tonight where I want it."

Ben Brocka

13:15

Did they bring spears back in Skyrim?

5pike

@BenBrocka No

StrixVaria

Skyrim is a game where the minute-to-minute gameplay is never really that great, but the overall experience is pretty good.

Ben Brocka

Boo hiss

3ventic

@BenBrocka No, but you can mod them

Ben Brocka

Jumping 100 feet in the air and spearing people were my character's main personality traits in Morrowind and now neither is in the game

Kevin van der Velden

13:17

@StrixVaria want

When is it coming to holland :( In paperback

StrixVaria

@KevinvanderVelden The Dresden Files book is tangential to the reason I posted the picture.

Although I do need to read more of that series.

I've read...I think 4. Maybe 3.

@BenBrocka Morrowind's jump mechanics were the best.

Kevin van der Velden

@StrixVaria I don't understand... dresden files... tangential? How

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria I could jump the ENTIRE length of Balmora

Kevin van der Velden

But yes I do see and hate you for it

@BenBrocka boots of blinding speed + magic resist ftw

5pike

@StrixVaria Morrowind as a whole was a great game.

Blem

13:18

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka I forgot the name of the spell, but the one spell that just buffs your jump for a long time was really great.

Ben Brocka

they killed Hover too. I understand why, to tighten up level design, but damn jump was great

StrixVaria

Except when it wore off mid-air.

Ben Brocka

I had 100 jump, I rarely needed jump buffs

StrixVaria

@5pike The combat in Morrowind was possibly the worst I've ever seen in a game (even for its time it was really terrible). There are a lot of good parts to make up for it, but it still really kills a lot of it for me.

Ben Brocka

13:19

player created ships in Resogun are pretty great. Wish you could change their stats though

StrixVaria

Skyrim's combat is...fine I guess. It's not awful but it's nothing special either.

Ben Brocka

Combat wasn't too bad except the random miss chance was HORRIBLE

5pike

@StrixVaria Oh yeah, the swings that completely miss were annoying as hell.

StrixVaria

The random miss chance on bows was triply horrible.

badp

Is there a way to fast travel out of a cleared place?

5pike

13:20

+mandatory weapon training on mudcrabs.

StrixVaria

@badp Every dungeon generally has a shortcut back to the beginning from the end of it.

Other than that I don't think so.

badp

This one had a nice dead end

It seemed that there should've been one but it was blocked off

No matter, I backtracked all the way and unlocked a few doors and found some more loot on the way out

Ben Brocka

Is there a list of mods to unfuck Skyrim like there were with morrowind?

Those Vanilla faces...

5pike

@BenBrocka Oh yes please. I made the mistake to buy it on release.

badp

@BenBrocka PcGamingWiki suggests of a few, but they seem to require paid membership to the nexus website

Kevin van der Velden

13:23

There's the skyrimgems.com website

@badp nexus has free accounts

I've downloaded many many mods from there, no paid membership required

badp

@KevinvanderVelden Not along the sign-up path they want you to take

3ventic

@badp What?

Kevin van der Velden

@badp they're checkboxes, don't tick any of them and you'll be fine

badp

Well there was a mod amongst the suggested ones that made a huge deal of load order and whatnot and how the nexus mod manager would handle that all for you, but to download it you need to be a member and they were asking like £40, or like £20, or at least £1.79 pretty please?

3ventic

The only things premium has over free account is a forum rank with no real effect on anything, uncapped downloads, premium-only download servers and full history (and no ads, but pretty much everyone blocks those anyway)

agent86

13:25

yeah, nexus is free, don't let them make you pay

Ben Brocka

@5pike I bought it for $5 just to have it I guess. I got Oblivion's collector's edition and was underwhelmed but $5 seemed okay

agent86

I've used it for years for skyrim, fallout, etc

Ben Brocka

yeah I used Nexus for Fallout...briefly, I basically quit before using anything

3ventic

@badp It was probably offering the premium membership, but it's possible to download everything with a free account

badp

In particular this one, I think

agent86

13:27

you can also download mods from the steam workshop, iirc

Ben Brocka

Oh, that's nice

agent86

some require SKSE, which is just a mod for modding

yeah, the unofficial <game> patches are always a good idea

badp

@agent86 Yeah, I got SKSE separately and SkyUI from Steam.

3ventic

Oh you mean this page: forums.nexusmods.com/…

The second line quite clearly says if you don't want to buy, skip this step..

Arperum

@badp did you buy the DLC too? Or just the basegame?

badp

13:29

@Arperum Just the base game

5pike

Is the DLC worth it?

badp

@3ventic Well, it was sufficiently buried that they lost my registration :P

Lazers

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Q: Best way to see complete heists and on what difficulty

I am currently trying to get some of the masks that you get from completing all the heists on specific difficulties and at the moment and not able to figure out which heists I have actually completed and at what difficulty I completed them on. Is there an easy way for me to see what heists I ha...

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Arperum

@5pike Haven't tried it out yet... I own the DLC for a long time now though.

Ben Brocka

I figured mods would trump DLC so didn't bother with it, especially since it added 120% to the price

5pike

13:31

Bethesda DLC has always been iffy. There are some great ones (Shivering Isles) and then there is horse armour.

badp

so unless there's an alternative way to get that mod, I'll just skip it

Kevin van der Velden

@badp well, you failed then

Ben Brocka

expansions are usually good though

Kevin van der Velden

Stop failing and create that damned account already badp =p

Arperum

The random vampire attacks from Dawnguard basically require a mod (run for your lives or something along those lines IIRC) to save some NPC's though.

badp

13:32

@KevinvanderVelden I failed? Their monetization funnel failed.

Ben Brocka

horse armor seemed like a lame preorder bonus gone out of control

3ventic

Dawnguard was pretty good, Dragonborn was better, Hearthfire I just got as part of a bundle

badp

The amount of interest I have in installing and maintaining 15 potentially incompatible modding frameworks in order to get basic shit in games working has crumbled immensely after Steam

Yuuki

@Wipqozn Odd. I'm trying to post a trade offer but your inventory won't load.

badp

SkyUI seemed like a ton of pain to install, but just subscribing to it in Steam did the trick

Kevin van der Velden

13:34

@badp well, the nexus mod manager makes it just as easy

badp

(well and the pain of getting the scripting thing going)

Kevin van der Velden

But jeah, modding is still difficult, and it will probably always be

badp

@KevinvanderVelden but it and steam won't talk to each other and will end up getting in a conflicting scenario where everything is fucked up

3ventic

It's a lot easier than it used to be

badp

There just used to be one megamod where you would just drag and drop files in place :P

Kevin van der Velden

13:35

@badp nope, unless you try to install the same mod via both steam and NMM nothing bad happens

badp

what about "load order"?

3ventic

loot.github.io exists for that

Kevin van der Velden

Generally not an issue (and you can't even control it with the default mod loader, nor with steam)

badp

So we've gone from 1 to 3 things for the same problem

I hope you see the issue here

Kevin van der Velden

@badp no, loot is optional

Ben Brocka

13:36

What's SkyUI? Does anything bring back Morrowind's hideous but useful interface?

I've heard bad things about Skyrim's UI, especially on PC

Kevin van der Velden

We've gone from 1 closed platform that does half the features to 1 semi-closed platform that does all the things

It's just a different platform

Blem

Another awesome lifehack!

3ventic

@BenBrocka it changes the UI from one clearly optimized for consoles to a more informative and mouse-friendly UI

Kevin van der Velden

@BenBrocka SkyUI is a better interface for skyrim, including search functions for your inventory and a column for value/weight

badp

Ben Brocka

13:37

So more like Morrowind then?

badp

Most of Skyrim's interface seems better optimized for mindfuck

Frank

@Blem That's so not a life hack.

badp

no two dialogues work alike

Ben Brocka

well...better than Oblivion atl east

GIANT JOURNAL SKEUOMORPH eating 50% of screen real estate

3ventic

SkyUI also adds the mod configuration menu used by pretty much all mods that change anything significant nowadays..

Kevin van der Velden

13:39

Also a good thing!

Blem

@Frank how is that not a lifehack?

badp

Ben Brocka

It's not a life hack I've been doing it every day of my life

5pike

@badp Damn, I wish I waited till the mods...

badp

This is what it looks like by default

Kevin van der Velden

13:39

@Blem not enough 10 dollar gadgets required

Ben Brocka

Oh okay that's not better than Oblivion. Barely

Kevin van der Velden

It's... usable, mostly

As long as it doesn't fuck up and not properly register which option you're clicking on

badp

Most of the UI is a clusterfuck anyway

Kevin van der Velden

That happens sometimes

Ben Brocka

You know Dead Space had a much better UI and it was optimized for consoles. It doesn't have to be that awful

badp

13:40

Most but not all of the time you can click to select. The rest of the time you must put your choice at the middle then hit E

3ventic

If you plan on using the dialog options with a mouse, you better get a mod to fix that too..

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah

badp

Most but not all of the time you can scroll through options with the mousewheel. The rest of the time you must use the arrows

Kevin van der Velden

There's also a mod that fixes alt-tabbing sometimes not hiding the cursor

badp

Most but not all of the time you click on an option to use it. The rest of the time you click an option to select it then press a button to use it.

Kevin van der Velden

13:41

That's a requirement, and a mod that fixes the random hang while loading

3ventic

I think ENB fixes that too, @Kevin

Ben Brocka

I had briefly forgotten the pain of actually playing a Bethesda game

Kevin van der Velden

@3ventic possibly, I've already got a different mod for it though

badp

Most but not all of the time you craft things by selecting ingredients first and then getting a result. The rest of the time, you select the result first and the ingredients next.

3ventic

SKSE 1.7 has the fix for not-enough-memory crashes

need to activate it through .ini though

Kevin van der Velden

13:42

Fancy

badp

Most but not all of the time you quit the interface and go back to the game by hitting ESC or TAB. The rest of the time you also need to confirm you want to resume play by clicking on "yes" in the confirmation dialogue.

Kevin van der Velden

@badp where do you select the result first?

badp

@KevinvanderVelden Cooking e.g.?

Kevin van der Velden

You just select the result, you can't control the ingredients there

badp

Well it's still inconsistent :P

Most but not all of the time you can navigate around with the keyboard. The rest of the time, you need to click around the edges of the screen to move.

Kevin van der Velden

13:44

Yes, crafting from a predefined list is indeed different from crafting by combining items randomly

I don't think that's much of a complaint to be honest =p

badp

(I can't believe the skill trees work like that, but they do)

Kevin van der Velden

You can use the arrows there as well

3ventic

Geforce Experience tells me I'm downloading 1.5GB/s. Somehow I don't trust it.

badp

@KevinvanderVelden Yes. From that screen I return to playing by pressing the down arrow.

or clicking at the bottom of the screen.

That's about it.

3ventic

I just spam tab when I want to return to gameplay

Kevin van der Velden

13:46

You can select different skills with left/right, go into the tree with up, then navigate the points with left/right/up/down and when you're on an edge go to a different skill with left/right or back up with down

badp

@KevinvanderVelden No.

I am trying this right now. It does nothing.

oh wait

it does - if you use WASD

@3ventic whereas most but not all of the time you move around the interfaces with the arrow keys!

Frank

Anybody want to buy my vote for the community choice?

3ventic

Why would you use arrows, if you use WASD to move?

badp

@3ventic WASD to move around menus is dumb.

3ventic

I use WASD to navigate interfaces..

badp

13:47

Almost nothing does that.

3ventic

when I don't use my mouse that is

which is basically never

badp

and even then the thing doesn't make sense

5pike

@Frank Both choices are not that interesting IMO.

3ventic

I have my hand on WASD, so of course I'll use WASD to navigate..

badp

Frank

13:48

@5pike Hence why I'm selling mine.

badp

QUICK: what happens when I hit up?

3ventic

It probably jumps all the way to the top

because it's horrible to navigate on PC

5pike

@Frank What do you take for payment?

Frank

@5pike Probably a promise, and nothing else.

5pike

@Frank I can give you a star.

badp

13:49

@3ventic Yes, of course it does that.

Frank

@5pike Good enough.

badp

To go to the next item in that branch you hit up and then down.

3ventic

As I said, horrible to navigate without a controller

badp

And I'm saying that the interface is overall terrible.

5pike

@Frank Mhhh... How about... Female protag

badp

13:50

I'm glad we're in agreement.

3ventic

SkyUI makes it good enough for me

the default is absolutely horrible though

badp

The interface is terrible after skyui

3ventic

I wonder if there's a mod to change the skill tree interface..

badp

Fallout New Vegas didn't have any of these problems

(IIRC)

Frank

Gah! The vote button! It does nothing! Stupid Valve!

3ventic

13:51

@Frank It's probably just slow

Frank

There we go. Refreshed the page, then it worked.

3ventic

when I tried to vote one day it said error, try again later. I refreshed and I had already voted

Ben Brocka

@Frank voted for female protags. They Bleed Pixels is cool, but hard

Frank

@BenBrocka @5pike already bought my vote for that one.

3ventic

What is Miracast Virtual Audio and why does it come with NVIDIA drivers?

Arperum

13:52

@BenBrocka I voted for the other one, so that one will win. I have an unbroken streak of always picking the losing option since the second choice this sale...

SaintWacko

Morning, Bridge

@Arperum You've got an extra o in there

Arperum

@SaintWacko No longer.

5pike

About the community games that are currently on - Any recommendations?

SaintWacko

@badp F:NV wasn't Bethesda

@Arperum :D

Rule for the sale

Frank

@5pike I hear Pixel Piracy is pretty decent. Haven't played it, though.

Arperum

13:54

@SaintWacko Thanks for pointing it out, I keep making stupid mistakes like that.

SaintWacko

If you don't have KSP, and it goes on sale, get it

And yes, Pixel Piracy is cool

5pike

They all look somewhat fun, but 2 of them are early access.

SaintWacko

I haven't played it in a while, so it's probably even cooler than it was when I played it

badp

@SaintWacko They're so similar, it might as well have been.

5pike

I have the fear that I'll play it now, loose interest and then, after a while, it gets some cool stuff, but I lost interest.

Arperum

13:55

I still have two -25% coupons for pixel piracy.

5pike

@Arperum I think everyone has.

SaintWacko

@Arperum Me too

Arperum

@5pike I gave up on early access for that reason.

Ben Brocka

Zenimax did a great job emulating the Bethesda Experience. Bugs included

5pike

I think I'll just buy Noir Syndrome and SAWA

Arperum

13:58

I've only bought the don't starve expansion this sale, and that's it.

Wipqozn

@Yuuki Huh? Inventory? What you are you talking about? Just send me your address on steam when I get home and I'll mail you those keyboard keys.

(I'm so sorry I'm such a horrible person and that wasn't even a good joke)

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