The Bridge

GnomeSlice

18:05

wtf this is sad youtube.com/watch?v=zbJPjhp4jic

That poor kitty

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Somewhat related: imgur.com/a/tRzPT

GnomeSlice

=[

Frank

@Fluttershy Oh?

user58869

@AshleyNunn do you have rosetta stone russian?

user15026

@Alex I don't. I want to get it eventually, though, when I have more money.

user58869

18:21

i remember you mentioned it once and decided to have a look, it is quite pricey, do you know anyone who use it?

user15026

I know people that have used Rosetta Stone for other languages.

user15026

I know there are likely cheaper options, but I haven't really investigated - been too busy :P

Lazers

0

Q: Tiny tower new floors ever again?

It has been more than a year since new floors were added in tiny-tower. When, if ever, will there be new floors added?

tiny-tower

0

Q: Do the conditions of skins I put in the trade-up-contract affect the condition of the resulting skin?

Are the conditions of the skins I put into the arms-deal-contract or trade-up-contract affect the condition of the resulting skin?

counter-strike-go

Frank

Two full rifts. No legendaries yet.

Fluttershy

18:40

@Frank Yeah. I have to farm the Jumbo Flan arena boss for 22 magic spheres. It takes ~5 minutes a fight, and I get 2 per fight, excluding Dark Matter drops. Then I have to fight a couple of Original Creations to get Luck and Fortune Spheres. 56 Luck Spheres, and another 600+ Fortune Spheres. I'm dreading it.

Frank

@Fluttershy Wait until X-2's Via Infinito.

Fluttershy

@Frank I don't plan on a 100% run for X-2.

Frank

@Fluttershy Not even for the perfect ending?

Fluttershy

@Frank Likely not.

I couldn't play X-2 for more than an hour before getting rid of it the first time. I'll be lucky if I finish it this time.

It was like they took everything good about X and threw it in a heaping pile of poo and called that X-2. <_<

DemCodeLines

anyone here familiar with college admission officers?

user15026

18:47

@DemCodeLines In what sense? I mean I've interacted a lot with the ones at my specific university, but I am unsure if that is going to help. (I am in Canada, too, which might make a difference depending on where you are)

Frank

Woo! Thundergod's Vigor from Kadala!

DemCodeLines

I'm in US and I am not talking specifically about a college, but in general about the admission guys that decide whether to accept or reject your application.

user15026

@DemCodeLines I've dealt with them here, yeah

DemCodeLines

So does it help at all if you are interning for a company (without getting paid) and pretty much building a new product of the company all by yourself (meaning, just one person doing work, not a whole team)?

user15026

@DemCodeLines As stupid as it sounds - everything helps.

DemCodeLines

18:52

Would that help at all for college admission officers to accept or will it make no difference whatsoever?

user15026

It likely will help somewhat.

user15026

Especially if you can find a clear way to explain to them what you are doing

user15026

I mean obviously, your mileage may vary.

DemCodeLines

define mileage in this context. Like how long I have been there?

user15026

Oh, I am saying that how much a difference it makes is going to likely vary committee to committee, university to universoty

user15026

18:57

But it will help somewhat, I think. Least, it would here.

Blem

19:17

Hello people

MBraedley

Oh, @RedRiderX starred post that he doesn't want starred is about to fall off the star list. Guess I better star it.

RedRiderX

4 hours ago, by RedRiderX

MBraedley

Oh, that didn't bump it like I though it would...

RedRiderX

@MBraedley It's dead Jim

Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker is both disturbing and wonderful.

►

Everyone should check it out

Blem

►

RedRiderX

19:24

@Blem OH YEAH I FORGOT TO CHECK THAT OUT

It's one of Dr. Sweets new enterprises.

Frank

Picked up a Mempo. Sadly, it wasn't nearly as good as my current helmet.

RedRiderX

19:40

Also Dee Dee is okay, but I kind of wish they did more with them

But I guess Batman Beyond isn't meant to be digging up the past all the time

Lazers

19:50

0

Q: How do I collect from an Anomaly tile?

Some tiles contain "anomalies", which seem to provide extra resources. Example, the spiral rock peel anomaly: I'd like to collect these extra resources, but how ? Should I simply build a city on it, or does it require any special technology ?

endless-legend

SaintWacko

@RedRiderX "A candle-lit altar"

Lazers

20:11

0

Q: What can I do to keep my Games for Windows Live (GFWL) games, once the service ends?

I've read from multiple reputable sources on the internet that Games for Windows Live will be shut down on July 1, 2014. I bought several games through the service that I don't want to lose. Using the GFWL client, I can download the .cab files for my games and can save the game activation keys,...

games-for-windows-live

fredley

20:26

@RedRiderX @AshleyNunn Any luck logging in?

user15026

@fredley Yeah, logging into a different site and then trying to get into chat worked :)

RedRiderX

@fredley same here

@SaintWacko Hmm really?

fredley

20:41

@AshleyNunn Cool. Sorting the rest out should be possible now

@AshleyNunn At least, making it easier

user15026

@fredley Yeah, that makes it useable, at any rate, which is better than it was before :P

fredley

@AshleyNunn Yeah

It's a minute or two of slight pain to overcome a larger, longer pain

user15026

@fredley Precisely!

Blem

20:58

Super life

Wipqozn

@Frank: So sir, are you still playing FF14?

badp

Things I wish Python had: a decent way to build a tuple that only differs from another by a single field

(à la Haskell record syntax)

Lazers

0

Q: Does killing wards increase my CS?

Warding is a key factor in LoL. Killing wards is also important. But does killing/destroying a ward increase your CS?

league-of-legends

Wipqozn

@badp so something like a = [1, 2, 3] and b = a except that a[1] = 5?

badp

Something like a = (1, 2, 3, 4) → b = (1, 2, 3, "four")

I guess you could do something like:

a,b,c,d = old_tuple
d = unfuck(d)
new_tuple = (a,b,c,d)

but that's not... awesome, yknow what I mean?

I guess that if you wanted to change, say, the second element you could do something like...

def update_tuple(a,b,*rest):
  b = unfuck(b)
  return tuple(a,b,*rest)

new_tuple = update_tuple(*old_tuple)

but that doesn't work if it's the last element, or the second to last, or whatever.

fredley

21:09

@badp Why the hell do you want to do something like that?

badp

because I have this

# Name              	(Def	Def%	MDef	Mdef%	Slots	Links,	Rate,	Flags)
ff7_armor =         	\
{"Bronze Bangle":   	(8,  	0, 	0,  	0, 	0,	0,	0,	""),
 "Iron Bangle":     	(10, 	0, 	2,  	0, 	1,	0,	1,	""),
 "Edincoat":        	(50, 	0, 	33, 	0, 	7,	0,	1,	"M"),
 "Wizard Bracelet": 	(6,  	3, 	85, 	3, 	8,	4,	1,	"MM"),
 "Ziedrich":        	(100,	15,	98, 	18,	0,	0,	0,	"SSMMFILEPWH"),
  #...

fredley

@badp I see, said Pooh, who didn't

Krazer

@badp what if you converted the tuple to a list, replace it at the index, and then return it as a tuple?

badp

and in order to use tuple ordering on that data, I need to change that human readable "flag" thing to something Python can use

fredley

@Krazer This is what I was thinking. The operation you want to perform is not a tuple operation, it's a list operation

badp

21:11

@Krazer Making a list kinda defies the point of making a tuple to begin with

Krazer

What if you construct a new tuple by concatenation?

fredley

@badp Why are you using tuples for this? Just build a tiny FF7Armor class and pass the data in as a tuple, then do whatever the fuck you want

badp

@fredley because tuple sorting is already in the language and works 99% like I want it

Otherwise I'd have to code it in myself

fredley

@badp But coding in python comparators for sorting is really trivial too!

badp

(Is the first element greater than the first element? If so, is the second element greater than the second element? etc.)

@fredley No code is more trivial than no code

I just need to readjust the definition of sorting between strings, then it's golden.

fredley

21:12

@badp Yes, but if no code only gets you 99% of the way there, you probably need some code

badp

@fredley Yes, so I wanted to take an element of a triple, work on it, and then get a new triple out of it.

or an 8-uple, or whatever that is

What Krazer said works, but it's less than awesome

fredley

@badp Lambda functions

lamba: 8uple -> 8uple

badp

@fredley That doesn't help

Especially if you want to change the last element, you have to either spell out all of the elements - and then the code breaks as you add more fields to the tuple - or convert to a list, and then you might've as well been using lists all along.

And if there are accidental mutations, oh well

fredley

@badp Python is the wrong language, use something more functional

LessPop_MoreFizz

Hello chat.

fredley

21:15

@LessPop_MoreFizz Hello @LessPop_MoreFizz

108

Q: Why isn't Python very good for functional programming?

I have always thought that functional programming can be done in Python. Thus, I was surprised that Python didn't get much of a mention in this question, and when it was mentioned, it normally wasn't very positive. However, not many reasons were given for this (lack of pattern matching and algebr...

python functional-programming

badp

@fredley I don't even know if, say, Haskell has the notion of something that is only partially sortable

There's Ord but I don't think it allows for something to be neither better, worse or equal to something else.

LessPop_MoreFizz

ATTENTION PEOPLE OF THE BRIDGE. I GIVE YOU TODAY'S GIF OF THE DAY:

fredley

@badp This would be trivial in ML, but that's the only functional language I know

badp

@fredley This is extremely tangential to the matter at hand.

fredley

@badp 99% irrelevant, not totally irrelevant

LessPop_MoreFizz

21:18

THANK YOU. THIS HAS BEEN TODAY'S GIF OF THE DAY. YOU MAY RETURN TO YOUR PRIOR CONVERSATION ABOUT BORING SNAKE PROGRAMMING OR WHATEVER.

Krazer

@LessPop_MoreFizz Poor Flyers

badp

"Record update syntax" is hardly one of the features that makes or breaks functional languages

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz Does this gif make sense iff you're Canadian?

badp

Nevermind that, if I were using records, I'd have had to actually define those records, which is no better than naming all of the fields in code massaging tuples anyway

fredley

@badp You realize if you'd just put in some terrible hack you'd have had this sorted quite a while ago?

badp

21:20

@fredley All I'm saying is, I miss something like tuple.copy_and_change(element_no, new_value)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fredley the people in that GIF are from Philadelphia, so maybe? (I mean, I guess some of the players might be Canadian.)

badp

That is all I am saying

I don't know why you had to take offense to such a simple statement

fredley

@badp No offence here

badp

You are getting quite worked up

fredley

@badp Am not

@badp Maybe it's this beer

agent86

21:21

@badp SCREW YOU AND YOUR TUPLES OR WHATEVER. I AM GOING TO PUNCH YOU

RAAAAAAAGGGHHHRRRRRR

LessPop_MoreFizz

UR ALL TUPLES.

What's a tuple?

badp

banishes @agent86 to the YourFace monad

@LessPop_MoreFizz Like a couple or a triple.

agent86

@badp YOUR MOM IS A MONAD

badp

A couple is a tuple of two things.

@agent86 My mother has excellent container properties and has basically no accidental leaks.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I reiterate you are a tuple and urmom is also a tuple.

agent86

21:24

(you, urmom)

look, a cat gif

Lazers

-1

Q: TO NO TO KILL CICERO

I need 50 reputation to write a comment so please someone give me rep not to sure how site works i just signed up. BUT TO NOT KILL CICERO-- he is the funniest companion you can get just use the console code: setessential 00055f0 1 so he never dies. He will become immobile if he takes to much dama...

skyrim games-for-windows

user15026

@Lazers That's a no on the just giving you rep :P

Arperum

@Lazers wat.

RedRiderX

So is knuckle-bumping a thing with normal people?

Because I'm hearing from normal people that it's a thing

And I don't believe them.

FEichinger

21:44

Trent Hawkins

@Lazers Huh. typically not having the rep to comment results in not-an-answer rather than not-a-question.

user15026

@FEichinger facedesk

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn I can sadly confirm that this does indeed happen.

user15026

@FEichinger That makes it even worse :(

FEichinger

(I also just realized how much clientsfromhell I have to catch up on ... Geez.)

RedRiderX

21:48

►

@FEichinger source

clientsfromhell.net/post/83914574146/…

I just cant

I cant even

Whoops

wall of text there

Arperum

@RedRiderX I don't know normal people, but I've seen it happen.

RedRiderX

@Arperum Like, instead of the usual handshake?

> "Does this rainbow look gay to you?"
-- feedback from a children’s daycare website

LessPop_MoreFizz

What's the point then?

MBraedley

@LessPop_MoreFizz Agreed

user15026

22:04

I gotta say, as much drama as we might get here? You guys have much cooler heads and better grasps on how to be decent humans than the guys currently on my work site.

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn Oh my

That sounds... bad

badp

@AshleyNunn We have been positively flat on the drama lately

It's like we have awesome people that have driven the less awesome people away.

user15026

@RedRiderX They just are fond of insulting each other. Lots of posturing and being rude.

user15026

@badp Something like that, yeah

badp

If only your workplace had some of those awesome people!! wink wink nudge nudge.

:P

RedRiderX

22:05

@AshleyNunn : /

badp

(although I wouldn't try and champion such a cause on my first week)

user15026

@badp lol well if any of y'all wanna bet bitcoin on sports, I know where you can go!

RedRiderX

Pah, I only bet Bitcoin on imaginary sports!

user15026

@badp nah, I really don't intend to crusade to clean up chat.

badp

@AshleyNunn As much as I'd love to support you, I'd much rather buy you a game than a bitcoin :P

FEichinger

22:06

I only bet Bitcoin on Bitcoin's future.

user15026

It is what it is, and most days I don't gotta deal with it

user15026

@badp snorts you heard they offered me part of my pay in BTC, right? (I said an emphatic no, and they were like "yeah we figured")

RedRiderX

clientsfromhell.net/post/81986506718/…

so much gold

Arperum

@RedRiderX No. I can't describe a specific situation where I've seen it happen, but not instead of a handshake. (also not by normal people, I don't really know normal people)

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn ... Now, I know you don't have the freedom of choice to drop that job, but ... I would've walked out on them laughing.

RedRiderX

22:10

@Arperum Both my parents sound neither surprised or factitious when they tell me that people often "brush knuckles" instead of shaking hands now.

user15026

@FEichinger Oh, psh, I am not giving up this job for love or money, it makes me happy. And they were totes okay with my no - no one here is actually doing it.

user15026

(Actually if someone offered me a lot of money I might give it up but that is unlikely)

user15026

@RedRiderX Weiiiird

user15026

I mean I am barely ever in a handshaking situation, so maybe I ma just behidn teh times

RedRiderX

same here

clientsfromhell.net/post/76322478688/…

I cant even

Arperum

22:16

@RedRiderX I've never brushed knuckles instead of a handshake. And I don't plan on doing so ever.

RedRiderX

@Arperum Heh also same here

clientsfromhell.net/post/76423209158/…

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I can't breath.

badp

@RedRiderX but can you feeling

RedRiderX

clientsfromhell.net/post/63580606981/…

Lazers

0

Q: How to keep population happy?

All my towns' approval gauges are dropping for some reason, but I just can't understand why. Actually, I don't know how I'm supposed to keep population happy and avoid rebellion. Any idea ?

endless-legend

RedRiderX

@badp i only feelling waaaaaaaaaaat

Actually

wow

FEichinger

22:19

> Not that I have anything against gay people… wait, you’re not gay, are you? I guess you’d know best if you are.

RedRiderX

I feel like I should submit one

There was this one client who had a very clear "vison"

When they sent the initial MS Doc exported as a pdf, I thought it was just a general idea of the placement of site elements

Or that they didn't know how to use Word

Or Colours

Or text

Or images

So I did a bit of work on the site design, doing my best to work with the stick of dynamite that was their brand's colours.

Sent the initial design back

"Where are the penguins?"

"Well I thought you might want to move away..."

"Where are [the two florescent colours of their brand]?"

"Well I did incorporate them in these elements..."

"All the headings need to be this florescent green"

...Should I go on or am I boring everyone?

clientsfromhell.net/post/52150776011/…

oh golly

> "If you want to get totally stoned one night and just go super metal on the whole site, I’m cool with that."

user15026

@RedRiderX ....I hate the pink is for ladies concept

RedRiderX

clientsfromhell.net/post/82187998071/…

Arperum

@AshleyNunn same with "bright blue is for boys"

RedRiderX

I can't stop

send help

user15026

22:35

Gendered colours are stupid.

RedRiderX

Quite

badp

The best color is uppercase

RedRiderX

> "Wife’s affair and illegitimate child."
— On an intake form, under “topics client wants to avoid”

Arperum

@AshleyNunn yes. I plan on literally burning anything people ever give me in gendered colors when I have a kid. In front of their eyes.

user15026

I know someone who had a baby (a girl) who was bald until she was like 1 and a half and this woman she met one day (while the girl baby was in baby jeans and a blue shirt) insisted that my friend didn't know what sex her baby was because "where was the pink to tell you it was a girl"

RedRiderX

22:40

hehehahahaaa

I find that extremely amusing.

badp

@AshleyNunn wat

user15026

The woman said it was just "weird and rude" to not put the baby in pink so people would know it was a girl

Arperum

@AshleyNunn wat.

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn AHAHAHAAAA

badp

@AshleyNunn wat

user15026

22:41

aka when it comes to babies and stuff, people are the weirdest.

RedRiderX

Yes Quite

badp

just dress him up in green and confuse everybody

or yellow.

Yellow is fine too.

RedRiderX

@badp Yes this is the obvious solution.

@badp Well if you want them branded a coward I guess so

Arperum

what about black?

badp

Green's a little more distant from both pink and cyan and the color of skin

@RedRiderX wat

@Arperum nah. That's a little too goth for my taste.

user15026

22:43

What about pink and blue stripes

user15026

WHAT THEN

badp

@AshleyNunn blech. By your definition, it's stripes of stupid and stupid colors.

user15026

@badp Amen to that.

user15026

(I really don't like a lot of pastels, and usually thats what you get for "baby colors"

badp

although if the stripes were really really really thin

free moiree effect

RedRiderX

22:46

@badp straightdope.com/columns/read/1950/…

FEichinger

@badp Pikachu onesie, duh.

user15026

@FEichinger That works :D

badp

@FEichinger So long as he's not limited to just "Piiii" "kaaaaa" and "chuuuuu"s

that'd be exceedingly sad.

user15026

@badp Better than if the child was Link

user15026

Link has like zero vocab

badp

22:49

@AshleyNunn Well he's got "aaaah!" and "AAAAAH!" and "AAAAAaaaaa..."

FEichinger

@badp Sounds about right for a kid.

badp

given that we're talking about 1.5 years olds, there'd be nothing wrong about it

He'd sound strong fierce and healthy!

user15026

@badp I suppose you have a point

RedRiderX

> CLIENT: I’m not too sure about the blue…

ME: Actually, that’s green.

CLIENT: Who’s the client?

ME: You.

CLIENT: And what color is it?

ME: …blue?

CLIENT: Right. Now let me see what other shades of blue we have.

We settled on pine-tree ”blue.”

A classic

badp

(My 'he's are the result of Italian grammar's male-by-default in action)

(It's just a grammatical convention necessary for gendered nouns. Please have mercy on my soul)

user15026

22:51

@badp No. No mercy. You are a monster. (aka it's fine. I wondered if that was why.)

Braiam

@RedRiderX he's daltonic... obviously

SaintWacko

I love clients from hell

RedRiderX

@Braiam And a jerk

SaintWacko

First site I check each day

RedRiderX

> Client: Can we change the heading font to more acrylic?

Me: Sorry?

Client: Can we change it to more of an acrylic style font? You know, like slantways.

Me: Oh, you mean italic?

Client: No, I think its acrylic, please don’t correct me again. The slanty-‘i’ in word, you know. For acrylic.

Braiam

22:52

@RedRiderX well, I never said both were mutually exclusives :/

RedRiderX

@Braiam Heh true

badp

@AshleyNunn The first person who tries to pull a xe in Italian gets a kick (male) and a headbutt (female) from me so he can work out which article he should use

RedRiderX

> "It’s not really design work, it’s just purposefully placing images and text."

Gold

user15026

@badp Singular they. It's the only way.

RedRiderX

> "White space is the bane of my existence. When it comes to advertising, less does not mean more."

badp

22:54

@AshleyNunn Hah! They're gendered, too.

RedRiderX

such people will haunt my dreams

user15026

(Most other gender-neutrals sound awful to my ears)

user15026

@badp laughs you just can't win, can you ;)

Braiam

@AshleyNunn nothing beats japanese on genre neutral...

badp

@AshleyNunn Pain is mandatory

user15026

22:55

@Braiam That is a language I know very little about.

SaintWacko

@Braiam genre, huh?

user15026

@badp Well, then you are right on target for your daily dose :P

badp

What really gets me worked up is what the germans do in job offers; from what little I understand they first use gender-neutral words for the job description and then they also append "(m/f)"

FEichinger

@badp Because it's not "gender-neutral".

German usually defaults to male.

badp

You have no gender neutral word at all?

@FEichinger Yes, Italian does that too, but there still are words that are the same in masculine and feminine, so in a few cases you can simply dribble the situation like that.

RedRiderX

22:57

> ME: I’ll be making your 8’x8’ banner. Do you have any original files for the logos you sent over? Jpeg images will look blurry when scaled larger.

CLIENT: I sent over the logos!

ME: Yes, those are jpeg images: when they’re scaled, they become pixilated. What I need is the original vector format. The original designer might be able to help.

CLIENT: I’m the original designer and I made those in jpeg!

ME: Jpeg is the image format, I need the original format, like the Illustrator file.

CLIENT: I did my research. You can just take a jpeg image, put it into illustrator, and it becomes the …

badp

It's not perfect, sometimes women choose to use the male word when a female form exists just fine, sometimes women insist in creating a female word where there isn't one and it sounds kinda terrible

Braiam

ok... someone got flagged because he pasted a question with the f-word?

user15026

Did someone just flag a question feed?

FEichinger

@badp Almost every job title refers to the male variety.

RedRiderX

@badp Comedienne, anyone?

FEichinger

22:59

@Braiam @AshleyNunn One of you is right.

Braiam

@AshleyNunn it was an user

FEichinger

I didn't bother to check and just invalidated it, because GET A BLOODY MOD FOR THAT.

Braiam

@FEichinger no, both of us are right...

actually, reading again, I'm the only one right...

2

badp

@FEichinger I've actually never seen an (m/f) on Italian job postings so the last thing I have to say on the subject is, get on my level bro™.

FEichinger

@badp Oh, I have much different issues to complain about when it comes to job titles and gender in German.

Braiam

23:01

@badp italian doesn't have neutral gender...

badp

@Braiam that being the point

RedRiderX

> CLIENT: We like the animation, but we’re afraid that the female character may make it seem like we’re talking down to women. Could you make it a male character? A male who is goofy but loveable.

ME: Aren’t you afraid that you will be making fun of men?

CLIENT: No, only women seem to ever get offended.

So. Much. Gold.

Okay I'm done

FEichinger

@RedRiderX Oh, I have so much to say to this ...

Braiam

this will be known as the day @RedRiderX was lost... or more accurately we ruined his life

RedRiderX

@Braiam !

What happened to me?

FEichinger

23:08

@Braiam No ... that happened a long time ago already.

Oh for fuck's sake, SFF.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RedRiderX eh, sounds like the designer is arguably wrong here.... Though the client seems to be right for kind of the wrong reasons.

Lazers

0

Q: If there are multiple beds, where do I respawn?

I play a lot so I know that in minecraft PE if you slept on a bed you respawn there if you die. However, I just created a new world that has about six different beds in it. There are only two beds that are in my house, so how do I know that I will respawn in those? Is it the one you slept in most...