The Bridge

badp

19:01

> When summoned, thirteen medieval knights appear and slash the enemy party.

O__O

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot New cardframe?

@OrigamiRobot Why is the bottom so black? :(

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria Because WotC are awful :(

StrixVaria

I liked the "new" cardframes (introduced in 10th edition I think) over the old ones.

This is just arbitrary and dumb, though.

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria I prefer the old old ones.

user15026

Huh, I get to leave in 57 minutes, and today just flew by. That makes me happy.

StrixVaria

19:04

@OrigamiRobot I never had an issue with them when they were all that existed, but I did like when they changed it up.

Yuki

@OrigamiRobot Maybe I'm not recalling the rules correctly, but why would you need +1/+0 if you can't attack?

StrixVaria

I actually like the cardframes of "futureshifted" cards from Time Spiral the best :P

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria The black at the bottom is for machine readability. Rares will also have a holofoil mark on them

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Why is this important?

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria OMG WE CAN'T BE FRIENDS ANYMORE

@StrixVaria Reasons? idk

Ben Brocka

19:05

@badp yes, each with a separate attack. I think it might even be longer than the god forsaken Eden summon in FF8

Nothing is longer than Supernova though

Origami Robot

In the lower left of the card is a series of letters and numbers that indicate the card's collector number (122/269), rarity (R), set (M15), and language (EN). The little dot between the set and the language will be a star on premium cards, so just about everything you'd ever need to know about a card's edition is in one easy-to-read place.

Making the bottom of each card black to accommodate this information was not an easy decision, and may be the most disconcerting part of this frame update, but it was done with the best of intentions. This information is machine-readable by recognition …

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Ugly.

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria The ugly part is that the colored border doesn't go all the way down the the edge of the text box. If it did, I'd be fine with it.

Ben Brocka

okay final boss gains 2/3rds of a KotR hit if you have KotR. Barely giving him enough to survive 2 hits. He's still a joke with that OP mess though

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria The colorshifted frame from Planar Chaos is actually the best.

StrixVaria

19:09

@OrigamiRobot Like Damnation?

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria Yea

StrixVaria

That one is pretty nice too.

Origami Robot

I love all the textbox designs and the white text.

Damnation is my favoritest card ever.

This is my beautiful playmat with my beautiful lands.

StrixVaria

You use Unhinged lands?

Origami Robot

Yes.

I'll have to get more if I want to build a new deck though :(

agent86

19:16

I don't remember FF7 being that hard, even the really optional stuff.

it takes some tactics to beat ruby/emerald, but that's about it

I don't think chocobo breeding was super rough either. if you had a guide, anyway. doing it randomly would take for freaking ever.

Ben Brocka

@agent86 Chocobo breeding takes a long time, and the weapons can be majorly BS, I Think there's cheap ways around both though

agent86

KotR though, ugh. That and the FF8 summons were just annoying FMV that padded out the game

Ben Brocka

I think I abused 7777 with Tifa to beat Emerald

agent86

perhaps I've forgotten the grind. I used to have more patience for games.

Ben Brocka

I liked the summons for the most part, only KotR and Eden were really excessive

well, Doomtrain was boring, but short

agent86

19:19

disgaea broke me of that. that was the first game where I went "okay, that's crossing the line" and since then I've been very reticent to grind in games

I think I just gave up on shin megami tensei nocturne or whatever that game was

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria I just realized how much value I have tied up in basic lands and got kinda sad.

agent86

I preordered it and bought it at a game shop that specialized in not-very-popular titles, and just... could not be assed to finish.

Origami Robot

But then I just look at the lands and I feel better.

Ben Brocka

@agent86 Dragon Fantasy Book is a cute game completely ruined by grinding. It even has a cool speed up feature, which I would really enjoy but it's basically REQUIRED that you use speed up and randomly plow through enemies to get through the first scenario. I haven't bothered with the others yet and I might now

Lazers

0

Q: Mob farm much slower in CraftBukkit

I made a mob farm in Minecraft (1.7.5 or 1.7.8 I can't remember which) which worked great. Now I've switched over to CraftBukkit Build Number 3050 and it doesn't seem to working at all, I've been stood around and nothing spawned. I made sure doMobSpawning is true, diffuculty is Hard, I made it da...

Ben Brocka

19:21

It's weird because the enjoyment of the game is mostly all in the writing, there's no need to pad/grind because the combat is extremely basic

agent86

@BenBrocka these days it's like, if a game is not entertaining me, It's getting buried in the "completed" section of my steam library. get my interest, be better than the other options I have, or DIAF, kthxbai

or, y'know, make me money.

Yuki

@BenBrocka So it's a game that would be better off as a movie?

agent86

I do make exceptions for games that are profitable to write about.

Ben Brocka

JRPGs are very slow at learning to respect players time

auto-save is only now becoming somewhat standard

@Yuki not quite--the mid-combat and "examine" dialogs are funny and enjoyable, but once you've read all the funny lines from a new enemy, combat is just about mashing attack with speedup on

and there's not much in the way of strategy or equipment you can do to avoid grind or make grind interesting. At least in say, FF9, grinding got you cool new equipable abilities and stuff

badp

@BenBrocka 2 minutes 5 seconds of cutscene for sub-thousand damage?

Ben Brocka

19:31

@badp supernova or KotR? KotR is...much more than subthousand

badp

I might be in time to give up the "legit" version and get an emulator with a turbo button instead

Ben Brocka

I forget how much Supernova does. It's pretty underwhelming

It's basically an OHKO if you're speedrunning though, heh

Unionhawk

Arg I can't afford to spend $60, but Stick of Truth looks so fun. SOMEONE STOP ME

user20683

@Unionhawk Stop it

badp

oh wait

user20683

19:32

:)

badp

FF7 has parties of 3

user15026

@Unionhawk Don't do it!

badp

so that's not 743, 893, 749 and 212 damage I'm seeing in this video

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk Just realize that South Park sucks and all your problems will be over.

2

Arperum

@Unionhawk STAHP.

Unionhawk

19:33

Alright, I'm good

Ben Brocka

@badp For Supernova? If you're lucky he'll only use it once or twice tops. It's not particularly common

badp

Yeah, I've been talking about Supernova.

In my defense the kerning there is terrible

user20683

Re: Purple Wedding: They went all out with those effects...vicious.

Ben Brocka

Oh, yeah that's a really bad angle considering how it shows damage

I don't recall it doing party-wipe level damage. Might be an unprepared team I guess

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice You keep going everywhere except the place you're supposed to go.

Fluttershy

19:42

@Unionhawk It's a really short game not worth the $60 price tag.

Unionhawk

That's what I'm thinking

Origami Robot

@Yuki So it can kill what it's blocking.

@Unionhawk Spend $20 and get Banished instead.

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot Given the speed that everyone seems to get burnt out on Banished... yeeeah

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk I'm not burnt out on it, I just prefer playing games with people rather than on my own. Therefore, Diablo

Unionhawk

No, I definitely get a sense of it being a game of "...now what?" from other people.

Powerlord

19:45

@Unionhawk If you wait, it'll go on sale.

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk Even if I had gotten burnt out on it, 28 hours from a $20 is pretty damn good.

Unionhawk

Or, I can not spend money on games, and have $20 more dollars to spend on other things.

user15026

That works too :P

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk I'm just saying if you really need to spend money on a game, there are far better things than $60 for Stick of Truth.

Unionhawk

...and by that I mean "get Goat Simulator at $10 and be done buying games for a while"

Origami Robot

19:48

@Unionhawk I can't see spending more than 2 hours in that game.

user15026

@Unionhawk I do not get the fascination with that game

Origami Robot

And that's being generous.

Unionhawk

Challenge accepted, I guess

Origami Robot

Oh, I wasn't saying I can't see you spending more than 2 hours. I just meant me.

Unionhawk

Fair enough :P

Origami Robot

19:50

Play more Don't Starve.

Buy the expansion for Don't Starve.

Spend a whopping $5 and play Binding of Isaac

Fluttershy

Or wait a bit for Binding of Isaac: Rebirth.

Origami Robot

HLTB says 16 hours for completionist on Stick of Truth. That's $3.75 per hour.

@Fluttershy Or do both.

Ben Brocka

@AshleyNunn it's youtube bait

Unionhawk

^ That

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot Definitely both. I'm going to buy Rebirth whenever it releases.

Origami Robot

19:55

And @Unionhawk has only spent 5 hours in FTL. What a monster. Are you trying to be liek @Sterno?

Ben Brocka

yeah looking forward to rebirth, not sure how much I'll play, but it'll be nice for item interactions to work properly/ridiculously

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot I HAVE TOO MANY FREAKING GAMES LEAVE ME ALONE

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk SO PLAY THEM INSTEAD OF BUYING MORE IT'S NOT HARD

StrixVaria

I probably spent less than 5 hours on FTL because I didn't like FTL.

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria A valid reason.

Wipqozn

19:57

I'm not sure how long I spent on FTL. I should check.

checks

Powerlord

I spent 0 hours on it.

Unionhawk

I've only done like, 2 FTL runs, overall, and I totally failed them both

Wipqozn

I spent 14 hours on FTL. I am therefore morally superior to @Unionhawk.

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk That's the way I'd expect someone's first two runs to go.

I've spent 48 hours in FTL.

Unionhawk

I'm the kind of person who gets fixated over one game at a time, usually in a cycle of only a few.

user20683

19:59

I've spent over 900 in EUIII

user15026

@WorldEngineer o.O

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk Me too.

user20683

@AshleyNunn I told you that already :P

Origami Robot

@WorldEngineer I've only spent 60 hours in IV

user15026

@WorldEngineer And I am still making the same face

Origami Robot

20:00

I need to play that again.

Ben Brocka

I like the idea of FTL and most of the execution, but I don't like the mix of how long runs are and how suddenly and randomly they can end

user15026

Because that is still a large number

user20683

I can't run IV Q.Q

user15026

HOME TIME YES YAY :D

agent86

Origami Robot

20:00

@BenBrocka l2ftl noob

agent86

HOLY CRAP ITS A LIZARD

user20683

@agent86 That's more or less a more energetic version of @AshleyNunn 's cat's reaction to everything.

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka You don't play roguelikes much, do you? :P

Powerlord

@BenBrocka "how suddenly and randomly they can end" is why I don't like Roguelikes in general.

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord sort of, though for example BoI felt less random after you got off to a decent start

FTL it's like 99% of the run doesn't matter because one random occurrence during the final boss fight can be almost impossible to recover from. Like your teleport room instantly exploding while 2/5ths of your crew are onboard. Grump

Unionhawk

20:03

HI MY NAME IS @UNIONHAWK AND I HAVE WAY TOO MANY FREAKING GAMES IN MY STEAM LIBRARY

THERE HAPPY

Ben Brocka

@agent86 cats are such graceful creatures

Lazers

0

Q: I keep losing my wife in Skyrim

I married Janessa and I keep losing her. I went back to our house to look for her & The Drunken Huntsman's place too but I can't find her anywhere.

skyrim

0

Q: How can I get out of Corel Desert?

While roaming around the overworld, I found myself into the Corel Desert, an area that loops in all directions. How can I get out?

final-fantasy-7

Powerlord

@Lazers That's because I killed her mwahahaha

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot same here. I might go back to it once I'm done with Age of Wonders III.

StrixVaria

Are we going to have to found Steam Sales Anonymous?

Origami Robot

20:08

@Wipqozn I'll probably play more Banished before I go back to EU4

Yuki

@Lazers Well, maybe you should stop your crazy adventuring and stay at home. She left because you're never around!

StrixVaria

I played the tutorials in Banished, and then started up a real game and had the same problem I have in every game of that genre.

Origami Robot

I only have 6/103 games in my steam library that I bought with the intention of playing and haven't yet.

StrixVaria

There are too many things to do and not enough resources to do all of them so I'm just not going to do any.

GnomeSlice

Holy balls this game is hard

The Taurus Demon killed me twice and I gave up

Origami Robot

20:13

System Shock 2, Spelunky, Shelter, Quantum Conundrum, Endless Space, and the two STALKER games. So I guess 7/103.

Ben Brocka

Don't quit Shelter too early if you play it. It doesn't have mid-level checkpoints apparently

StrixVaria

I played Guacamelee all the way to the final boss then gave up because that fight was really dumb.

Origami Robot

My problem is I get really really into a game and get burnt out before I finish it. I have 49 hours in Deus Ex: HR and I've only finished two levels.

StrixVaria

What a terrible boss fight.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Oh, you finally foudn the correct path.

StrixVaria

20:16

Hated Deus Ex: HR.

GnomeSlice

I gave up on the final boss in Valdis Story

@Wipqozn Yes.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice You can take off a lot of the demons health by attacking it from above. As soon as you enter the bridge, turn around, and you'll find a ladder.

StrixVaria

Deus Ex: HR had like 1 stealth path through a vent in every level, if you could find the vent.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria I hate bad final bosses. I gave up on assorted 16 bit era games because of bosses + no save feature

Origami Robot

Or I get distracted by another game and by the time I want to go back to the previous game, I've forgotten what I was doing.

GnomeSlice

20:17

@Wipqozn I did that then he cornered me against the door, the second time

StrixVaria

Dishonored is much better stealth level design.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice In that case just be better at the game.

GnomeSlice

I have the same issue in Dark Souls that I have with a lot of third person hacky games

I don't know how to parry

I can never ever do it

I haven't done it once yet

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice Solution: Learn how to parry.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria thxz

StrixVaria

20:18

np

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria Dishonored was great

Wish it had more "idle banter" for guards though

StrixVaria

Dishonored is the only stealth game I ever played that I liked.

Ben Brocka

I must have heard that "Think you'll get your own squad after what happened last night" line like 500 times

StrixVaria

I didn't even play it guns blazing style either. I actually did the stealth thing.

badp

Moving the rug from under a cat is great entertainment

no need for laser equipment

StrixVaria

20:19

The ability to blink and see through walls helped tremendously.

Sterno

Thief 2 FTW

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria both styles are fun in Dishonored though. And how you do stuff changes the game a lot

Wipqozn

I've only spent 70 hours on EUIV. I really do need to play it more.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria Blink is the BEST

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria I never even want to use my knock out darts in that game.

GnomeSlice

20:19

If I get the house to myself some time this week, I will try to stream dark souls

Ben Brocka

Blinking through someone's line of sight felt so good

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I could count on one hand how many tims I parried in dark souls. Just dodge.

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka Yeah, I started playing through again killing all the things but never bothered finishing :(

GnomeSlice

But it will mostly be full of me dying and wrecking all the furniture.

Wipqozn

I prefer to just two-hand a weapon and dodge everything.

StrixVaria

20:20

Home time!

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot they're important if you want a no-kill run in some maps. Though you can usually choke/sneak past

@StrixVaria The grenades are pretty funny to use

GnomeSlice

my taskbar just vanished

ffs

Wipqozn

I think I may start a new game. I'm not really liking thehumans or the arch-druid. The class revovles around animals, but all the animal units in the game suck.

GnomeSlice

brb rebooting I guess

Origami Robot

Dishonored is another example of Problem #1. HLTB says a completionist run is 30 hours. I've played for 35 hours and I don't think I'm far at all.

Ben Brocka

20:22

which area are you in?

Origami Robot

No idea.

The last thing I remember doing is poisoning the ale or sommat.

I haven't fought one of the stilt enemies yet.

Ben Brocka

That's...how are you 35 hours in? Lots of idling?

Wipqozn

That doesn't make sense.

Origami Robot

@Sterno I only played Deadly Shadows and it was great.

@BenBrocka I play stealth games very meticulously.

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot It was okay but the main problem it had compared to 2 was that it was designed for console, so levels were much smaller and more linear

Ben Brocka

20:25

The stilt guys are cool but unfortunately pretty bland stealth-only, since all you can do is avoid them

agent86

SPLINTER CELL

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot You've got quicksave for a reason. I usually get a good vantage point, quicksave, screw around to scout stuff out, load and make my move

agent86

blacklist rocks.

Origami Robot

@Sterno I played it on xbox. That orphanage literally had me seeing things.

agent86

that is all.

Origami Robot

20:26

@BenBrocka I don't like screwing around to scout stuff. I always try to do it "properly"

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot I try, but if I get seen a lot I'll just try and scout a bit. I did much less messing around in the DLC, but by then I had the hang of the game much better

though the final level of the DLC has FAR too many enemies

Origami Robot

@BenBrocka I restart as soon as an alarm goes off.

Wipqozn

Yeah, I'm going to start a new game. Not liking the arch-druid or human. I was just going to make an all dwarf army with dragons as my tier iv. I mine as well just restart as a new hero with a class and race I enjoy.

Lazers

0

Q: Gift's for kid's in Skyrim

Does anyone know where I can find some gift's to give to the child I adopted? So far, all I can find are dolls.

skyrim xbox-360

Wipqozn

Okay, so new game!

Ben Brocka

20:31

''''''''''''''

Wipqozn

I'll go Dwarf. Should I just use my Theocrat, or play as a Warlord? THinking I'll give warlord another go.

Origami Robot

@BenBrocka Hi Parker!

Wipqozn

In fact I might play my Goblin Warlord...

Nah, I'll go Dw- although...goblin warlord...MAN, DECISIONS ARE TOUGH

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn Make an army of robots with me as the leader.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot That would be the Dreadnought class.

Sterno

20:39

6 rifts in a row and the only legendary is... the other ring of that shitty 2-ring set.

At least now I have a complete set I'll never use!

Wipqozn

@Sterno A set which will never be used seems fitting for a man with games he'll never play.

My cat ous outside my window staring at me... this is weird.

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn people who have outside cats are weird

Wipqozn

She's not an outside cat. She justs managed to get out sometimes.

Origami Robot

same same

badp

@agent86 My post in r/buildapc dropped to #147. WAT DO

Wipqozn

20:42

So the fact she managed to get out and is just staring at me is part of why it's so weird.

Ben Brocka

@badp rip

Krazer

@Sterno I get nothing but those from ring gambling

GnomeSlice

BundleStars Toxic Bundle

Krazer

@Wipqozn you're an enabler!

GnomeSlice

Origami Robot

20:43

@Wipqozn That fact makes her an outside cat and that makes you a person with an outside cat.

Chippies

that effect could be cool for ranged classes :O

GnomeSlice

hey do you guys see anything if you go to twitch.tv/gnomeslice

it looks fuct on my end

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Just to be funny I'm going to say no. But that's because work blocks twitch

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Thank you for your funny response.

Buh it's doing both monitors

Braiam

I don't know why isn't strange that @GnomeSlice fuct his end

seriously, get another internet!

2

Wipqozn

20:48

@GnomeSlice Says you're offline.

Origami Robot

I have no idea what I just read.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn WAit a sec I turned it off

@Wipqozn How about now

Wipqozn

IT'S AN AD

GnomeSlice

frig it's still showing both monitors

I'm not even using xsplit

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice IS STREAMING AN AD

GnomeSlice

20:48

No I'm not

what

Wipqozn

I'M NOT GOING TO BUY YOUR CARS 2GNOMESLICE

Ben Brocka

Twitch puts prerolls on everything

GnomeSlice

Why does it show xsplit

Wipqozn

I see both screens.

GnomeSlice

I'm not even using xsplit

fuck how do I make it only show one screen

@Wipqozn Do you hear anything?

Chippies

20:49

are you using OBS?

GnomeSlice

Playing music to test the audio

@Chippies Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder

Unionhawk

Negative, no audio

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I already closed it.

GnomeSlice

FRIG

user15026

I see both your screens and don't hear anything

Chippies

20:49

@GnomeSlice get open broadcaster software if you want to stream

GnomeSlice

@Unionhawk now?

Unionhawk

Nope

GnomeSlice

@Chippies how do

k wait a sec

Chippies

obsproject.com/download

GnomeSlice

Right I don't know how to make it do audio I guess

Ben Brocka

20:51

OBS lets you pick audio source

Chippies

OBS is pretty neat

GnomeSlice

So does this

but it only has 2

Chippies

goes really great with dxtory

Yuki

Something something OBS.

Chippies

but dxtory isn;t free

GnomeSlice

20:51

I'm downloading OBS

which sounds like an STD

3ventic

ffsplit is pretty good

Ben Brocka

only problems I've had with OBS have been trying to work with Mercenary Kings (it doesn't play nice with overlays or something) and my capture card (the video lag is very hard to compensate)

Chippies

@GnomeSlice I'm curious where you got your STD knowledge

Yuki

@Chippies Yeah, my friend's trying to get his hands on one for his DH.

Unionhawk

I was going to say I heard things, but it's an ad. Damn twitch

Chippies

20:52

@Yuki I imagine it would be really good for DH, considering all that dodge chance and skills that let you avoid damage

GnomeSlice

@Chippies Where do I enter the url and shit for it to stream to

nvm found it

Chippies

@GnomeSlice obsproject.com/forum/resources/official-quick-start-guide.5

quick start guide

GnomeSlice

k why is it blank

frig shit it's not going to my channel

OBS sucks

wait yes it is

twitch.tv/gnomeslice

Do you guys see/hear anything?

Chippies

@GnomeSlice there's certainly sound coming from your stream

screen is black though

GnomeSlice

whargh

Chippies

20:55

you gotta set that shit up, yo

GnomeSlice

k

obs crashed when I stopped the stream

Chippies

@GnomeSlice that used to happen to me until I set it up right

GnomeSlice

@Chippies and how is that

Ben Brocka

there's a pick scenes thing in the bottom left that lets you pick your video source

Chippies

I don't remember, I set it up and then never used it again

GnomeSlice

20:57

@BenBrocka scenes don't appear to do anything

Chippies

@GnomeSlice they do if you set them up right

@GnomeSlice add scene and then add sources

GnomeSlice

WORKING ON IT

caps

Chippies

@GnomeSlice add scene -> add monitor capture

DONE

GnomeSlice

Still blank

Chippies

monitor capture is under sources btw

yeah, cuz you're offline

GnomeSlice

20:59

I already tried that

The preview thing is blank

you can preview the stream

Chippies

did you press preview?

GnomeSlice

there we go

nice

twitch.tv/gnomeslice

any sights or sounds?

Chippies

offine

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