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AND I GOT THE COMPANY TO PAY FOR HALF OF IT
CC @MBraedley
@OrigamiRobot COULD YOU PLEASE BIND THE CAPSLOCK KEY TO ONE OF THE BUTTONS? KTHNX
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@3ventic I am dissapointed. I fully expected a friday video.
@TimStone Incorrect assumption: Times New Roman (and equivalent fonts) are used everywhere.
@MBraedley You missed the part where I'm too lazy.
@TimStone Incorrect assumption: Text is the only thing printed.
14:01
@GnomeSlice can do it.
@Wipqozn Fine, jeez.
2 days ago, by Origami Robot
Honestly, this conversation is getting old. If you don't like the way I type, just ignore me. I have a system that works fine for me already.
@Arperum I already pulled that one today
@3ventic I know.
I don't understand why it annoys people. Everything @OrigamiRobot says is so much better when he's @OrigamiAutoCad.
14:03
@FEichinger Incorrect assumption: That so much shit need to be printed in the first place
When our office printer ran out of toner for a few days I realized that half the stuff we printed weren't really needed in the first place
@PrivatePansy Your office probably also has computers.
I am worth 32 GnomeSlices
Which, as the kid correctly explains, is not necessarily the case for all the students.
@FEichinger Well, I assume that the GPO is pretty consistent in their choice of typeface, but non-text content is sure to use the bulk of the ink.
@FEichinger Which makes it all the more ironic how much rubbish needs to be printed out in the first place
14:05
@OrigamiRobot which mouse?
@fredley No context is best context.
@Wipqozn LOGITECH G600
@PrivatePansy Sure, but the point is: When it's optional, sure. But there are many things that can't be fully digitized.
@PrivatePansy This doesn't actually stop a lot of places from printing a whole bunch.
@OrigamiRobot that's the mouse I use! It's great. I love it.
@OrigamiRobot yeah, half the cost is probably reasonable, especially for a "specialized" mouse.
14:06
I am only worth half a badp :(
@MBraedley IT'S MORE THAN I EXPECTED. IT'S HARD TO MAKE THE HEALTH ARGUMENT WHEN THE RECEIPT AND BOX SAY "GAMING MOUSE"
There's a lot of places where folks will use huge amounts of print jobs for printouts that really only sees a day's use before they start working on the next draft to print that.
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Q: I bought a controller which looks like a ps2 controller but has a usb plugin but i doesnt work when i play fifa online 3

thilanthere is the description .I hope you can help me solve my problem and i could play using a controller not a keyboard

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what can be done to improve this question?
@fredley Please, I'm not even on the board. I'm worthless!
14:07
@Alex Oh, thanks. I forgot to downvote that.
@Wipqozn I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EXTRA BUTTONS SO MUCH AS THE EXTRA WIDTH
@Alex He can give us more details about what he's doing.
@Alex He could try actually asking a question.
@Alex oh god the numbered buttons what
@BenBrocka Is it the fact that the numbers are in the most bizarre configuration that bothers you?
14:09
@Alex give a complete yet concise problem description instead of the mess of this title that's there right now.
Anybody want? @Diablo players
Anyway, I do recall there being fonts made specifically for the purpose of saving ink, by taking normal sans serif fonts and punching holes in them.
They never gained widespread adoption
@Frank ISN'T EXPLODING PALM FIRE DAMAGE?
@GraceNote clockwise is fairly reasonable
@Frank Man, now I want to play Dark souls 2, but I'm at work. Thanks a lot.
14:10
But it screams knockoff more than most knockoffs do
@OrigamiRobot The rune I use, it's physical.
@Frank BUMMER
I guess it's reasonable from that perspective if you look at it as "I gots a bunch of buttons and I need to number them".
@OrigamiRobot What is your DPS now?
@OrigamiRobot I'm going for lightning, anyways, so that my tornadoes do silly damage.
14:10
@StrixVaria LIKE 430K UNBUFFED. 590K BUFFED
@GraceNote the colors are right, they clearly just picked numbers so Sony wouldn't sue 'em
@OrigamiRobot Nice. I do like 425k unbuffed and don't really buff myself.
@Frank THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR LTK
Except for the broken Iron Skin thing which is insane damage.
@StrixVaria MY UNITY WILL BUFF YOU :P
14:11
@OrigamiRobot Oh I might switch back to the Law that gives 8% attack speed too when I'm not playing with Chippies.
I stopped using that so that we could each use a different one.
@StrixVaria YES PLEASE
I like the rune on that one that makes it give 16k life on hit when activated.
I've saved your life with that once or twice but I don't know if you realized :P
@PrivatePansy actually they were used in print, but a previous technology where not using fonts with holes in them would result in too much ink applied to the paper, resulting in all kinds of disaster
NOW THAT I'M USING UNITY, I SWITCHED TO MANTRA OF HEALING
14:13
@BenBrocka It just drives me nuts because I can't really find any game where I'd ever find the topmost button's action as suitable to mark as "button 1".
@GraceNote buttons shouldn't be "button one" anymore anyway since...we've had more than 2 buttons on controllers
I don't know all the details though
glares disdainfully at Wiimote
@badp That seems... counter intuitive
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14:16
@BenBrocka I can see numbers working as long as the numbering starts from the button that is one of:
- Main action button
- Main movement button
- "Yes"
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@BenBrocka The Wiimote was fine.
in fact, we can save on the .user16521 part
@OrigamiRobot It took me a moment to realize you were talking about unity and not unity.
@badp I was about to say
14:17
It was acceptable for motion controls if you didn't need too many of the buttons. It was dreadful when not used as such
The rest of the numbers should be more related to where that position is, so for example, if you had a 6-button controller, the top row being 1-2-3 and the bottom row being 4-5-6 works since 1 is very likely either the main action button or one of the main actions buttons and the most likely primary main action button.
Worst is when games would use wiimote sideways but not allow classic controller or gamecube controller
@badp The Wheel of Banhammer?
@PrivatePansy Everybody wins!
In a 4 button configuration, the top button is the last button I'd see used for any of those three.
14:18
@GraceNote numbers just seem like an awful idea in general unless it's something like the PS L1 L2 kinda thing
@BenBrocka I find that their implication of cardinal ordering can probably be problematic compared to symbols that have no organized system.
Love the PS controller's internationally recognizable (and brand-building) symbols on the face. But not everyone can get away with that. Well, basically no one else can get away with it now
I never liked the playstation controller
It always felt funny.
Really button number is a bad idea because it implies an intrinsic order to the buttons, so does letters to be honest but not quite to the same extent.
I didn't like the convex sticks.
14:20
But for example, the YX / BA split, that's actually ordering anyway, but it's two sets for two settings.
So for honesty, I could see one pulling off 1 2 / A B similarly.
@GraceNote I actually hated that on the wiimote. There's 3 different sets of symbols used for no particular reason. Numbers, leterrs, +/-
they were way too into the "remote" thing. Also remotes are AWFUL AND SUCK
@BenBrocka Well, the Wiimote has the buttons all in different places, it's terrible design altogether and the mixture of everything wrong doesn't help.
@BenBrocka I'm not sure why they decided a remote would be a good idea, everything that's ever been controlled using a remote has been a pain to use.
At least the gamepad kinda fixes it. They still have awkward +/- though. Which are ALSO labled start/select
But ultimately, mixing numbers and letters is still using two sets of orders anyway, so even though logically, 12AB is identical to XYAB, the latter is easier to parse.
14:22
@RonanForman agreed, same with these weird android controllers thinking "make the controller a remote that has game buttons". Remotes are ALWAYS awful. They are a great example of a terrible, more or less irreparably bad form of design
Woo! Found a fist that increases the amount of damage Exploding Palm does upon death!
It just makes it silly.
I'm probably at this point speaking more as a console player though, who has been ingrained with the nature of XYAB for so long that I can mentally parse top row and bottom row buttons a lot easier in that matched fashion. In my perspective, trying to assign "numbers" to one row and "letters" to another row is not as intuitive even though it honestly should be just as intuitive.
@BenBrocka I understand the idea, back when tvs didn't have any menus to navigate the buttons were okay. And the shape made them easier to hold etc.
any of the diabloers have any spare star/flawless star/perfect star gems they could let me combine to radiant star?
My real issue is that they keep spinning the ABXY buttons around.
Every time! Why?!?!
14:25
@RonanForman Is there more than Nintendo vs Xbox style?
This image looks pretty similar to the first (and only) gamepad I ever bought. I don't really use it because the directional "pad" is absolute junk, actually, but for example the numbers there didn't bother me much though.
The remote for my DVR is so horrible for navigating the menus. The "back" button is so far away from the buttons for navigating the menus, and is hard to reach. It's actually easier to just completely exit the menu, re-open it, and then navigate back to the page I wanted to go back to.
I think the only diff there is A and B are swapped, right?
@BenBrocka And X Y
14:26
ah. I always remember A/B's location because of the aformentioned "yes" button issue
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Norwegian Language

Proposed Q&A site for discussion of the Norwegian language and its dialects Bokmål and Nynorsk.

Currently in definition.

At least between PS/Xbox it's always the down button
@BenBrocka Unless you play JP games
Then O is accept because O represents "Yes" while X is cancel because X represents "No".
I haven't had a western released game switch OX buttons on me since Xenosaga
but yeah if you play imports you're doomed
Western games all use X for accept, yeah.
14:28
But then you just remember you're playing Nintendo style
And O for cancel because O is "No".
So at least between the big 3 there's really only two layouts, western and JP
Because man, even the basic circle is a symbol we can't get consistent across this planet.
I kinda prefer the down button being accept because I usually rest my thumb along X and []
or B and...whatever upleft is on Nintendo pads
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Q: When does a villager from another town I asked to come to my town move in?

xtiandI want to adopt a villager from another town. After asking the villager to move into my town, when does the house plot appear in my town?

14:30
@BenBrocka It's like part of me agrees on this part, but I'm just so used to O being accept that it's not much an issue for me.
The SNES probably geared me to that, though.
You rest on Y/B naturally but you slide to A for accepting anyway.
@GraceNote Yeah but the N64 and PSX generation made me totally unlearn that
@BenBrocka N64 was both an odd child and also makes me angry that its button configuration is actually almost the best option for my current game project, while I skipped the PSX generation.
Also THREE GRIP POINTS WHY
I beat Adeleine in Kirby 64 without moving because I forgot that you use the control pad and not the control stick.
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME
Putting aside that I managed to forget the controls of a game in the middle of playing said game, it's also kinda humorous that I was able to beat an entire boss fight without the ability to move.
@GraceNote yeah sony kinda leapfrogged them with that one. It kinda made sense at the time
Though still, the N64 controller doesn't drive me nearly as mad as the GameCube controller does, even though I can only play Smash on a GameCube controller.
Their games were clearly designed around "you use d pad for 2D games and the stick--and only one stick--for 3D games"
14:35
@wip halp. Should I choose an artifact or a regular weapon with 12 more offence points?
Totally agreed on the gamecube controller, that thing drives me nuts. I'm also used to it for Smash but haven't played in long enough it's no longer a problem
I'm sure I'll be fine with the u pro controller for smash 4. Not the gamepad though
Though I guess I'll have to use the gamepad when friends are over. No one wants Moleman the gamepad
@badp I'm not sure. I was 13 when I played these games last.
The gamecube controller seems fine to me... I just wish Nintendo allowed you to remap buttons in more games
So a couple years ago, tops
OH YOU
14:37
@Sconibulus Remapping buttons is always a weird thing.
@Sconibulus VC lets you do this...one of the main reasons I'm so annoyed you can't download your Wii VC games as the Wii U version for free
Besides aren't turtles banned from forgetting anything ever?
Sometime I wish I could, but then other times I do and half way through the game it becomes really hard because I've put the buttons in stupid places for certain tasks.
@BenBrocka You can? I tried like hell to figure it out for Super Mario World, and failed.
Oh, game CUBE. eh that wouldn't work out as well, games are designed for the super weirdass configuration of the...every button
14:38
I wanted to swap A and X so that normal jump was the big middle button you use all the damn time
@Sconibulus only in Wii U VC games, but yes, bring up the savestate menu and it's in there somewhere, it's per game too
@BenBrocka oh... I only have the regular Wii, didn't see any games that made Wii U look worth it
(And yes I know a bunch of people are going to say Monster Hunter)
Yeah thought you meant wii u since you said gamepad at first--I do agree remapping controls on VC for gamecube controller would be idea, it's weird as hell in some games
I just use the classic controller pro now. It works perfect except for N64, where you're doomed no matter what you use because NOTHING but an N64 pad is right for the C buttons
@BenBrocka yeah, that was just me being a dumbo
#killlakill Google voice Translated Character Names http://t.co/a3ZaOD58Pg
excellent
14:41
I should see if there's Fire Emblem on Virtual Console...
@Sconibulus There sure are! ...if you're in Japan!
...japan gets all the cool things
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Q: How much value does hero damage add?

EvgeniIt is often said that a got "value" when it can trade favorably, e.g. 2-for-1. But how much value does damage done to the hero add to the equation? For example, if a minion hits the hero once and then trades 1-for-1? When the same minion dies in an AoE spell, how much damage should it have don...

@BenBrocka It really drove me nuts because in one of the Megaman collections (either Classic or X), the big button on the right was shoot while the small button on the left was jump.
@Sconibulus Yeah, I think Nintendo might have gotten a bit better about that this gen. ...the one less people are buying, go figure. But US VC seems about equal with JP VC I think. Both are still just scraps though
@GraceNote WHAT WHY NO
So glad I got the PS2 version
14:44
@BenBrocka EXACTLY
Though TBH the X games always had poor mapping, I had to remap every game in the X collection I think. Dash is for shoulders
The Gamecube controller is awesome, what are you talking about.
@BenBrocka Eh, this is a personal preference thing I feel. I'm used to A for dash having started on the SNES, and it feels a lot more natural for me to dash jump and shoot that way.
Shoulder buttons on either side make me use the wrong finger. I shouldn't need two fingers to use the two movement actions.
Even on PSX I mapped it to shoulder so my thumb was always on jump and shoot
I'm tempted to retag this, but I don't want it dumped into the reopen queue for such a minor edit. So just a straight up delete would work.
14:47
I dash way too much in X games to have to move fingers (or double tap)
It's barely a movement for me since I guess in a ways, my thumb rests more between BA than it does over B.
Also, dashing is how all movement should be done anyway.
BA? On SNES style?
That sounds...painful
The seat of my thumb
The point is still on Y
Your thumb has a big butt
@BenBrocka how cheeky
14:54
Wait did they have a classic Mega Man collection? I only have the X one
I'm missing most of the classic series and would rather not buy/play/touch the 3DS versions
Pretty sure both X and classic were on both PS2 and GameCube
But I'll confirm at MMHP
Upside to stomach virus: more time to stay home and play Diablo
Yeah, classic collection (1-8) is listed as GC/PS2/XBox
14:57
@Krazer oh, sweet. Have 9 and 10 already. 7 and 8 were more my speed though. Prefer the X style controls
X collection is PS2/GC
The Zero series is still my favorite
$15, sold
@BenBrocka thanks for doing business
Yeah, it was the Classic collection that was wonky on the GameCube controller. They fixed it for the X collection.
14:58
I'm not sure I could pick a favorite, loved all of Zero and ZX to death though, and a few X games were real gems, with at least okay stuff in between
no comment on x7 or x8
@GraceNote I'll get both for PS2 anyway. Already have X. PS is my fav controller for Mega Man stuff. Though SNES works too
anything but gamecube controller, Xbox dpad or portable, I guess
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Q: Project Reality crashes

OrtundSo I copied Battlefield 2 Project Reality off of my brother's machine (where it works perfectly) and I can play for about half an hour most times but then it'll crash. Windows just shows me the standard uselessness of the AppCrash event... Going into the Event Log, I see the following error logg...

The PS controller is basically the evolution of the SNES controller, I'd basically call them the same family.
PlayStation still <3s devs - 1,000 self-publishers http://bit.ly/1o7N5uu The PlayStation dev community keeps growing http://youtu.be/9Jz3fWbGdK8
Tattnoos
I consider it "stupid teenager doing stupid teenager stuff non-news"
Tattoos "Warning: Makes terrible puns." on @BenBrocka's forehead.
@MartinSojka It's more "look at the hilarious failings of others non-news", more generally
@RonanForman Terrible puns are the best puns.
15:24
@MartinSojka "Who cares?" seems like an appropriate response.
user58869
goodness gracious me
@fredley What an idiot
If he still has it in 20 years he could pass it off as pop art in a Warhol sort of way
15:29
@Krazer Neat
user58869
he can get it covered up with another one
@Wipqozn I'm not there :(
@SaintWacko Then you should have been in chat when I was making it, jeez
Thre are too bridge people so I just grabbed people currentlyt in chat.
time zone discrimination
i'm being oppressed
15:41
@PanicBomb Oppression which isn't against me is the best kind of oppression.
@Wipqozn When you're running for political office in 30 years someone's going to mine up that quote
@Wipqozn I think you accidentally a word
JUST LIKE YOU ACCIDENTALLY ME! sobs
@PanicBomb I'll just them killed. Pretty sure politicians can do that.
@Wipqozn Best. Game. Ever.
@SaintWacko Quick. Ask a question about it. Get all the upvotes!!11!!!1!
15:45
@JasonBerkan I need to think of a question for
@SaintWacko "How do I know which SaintWacko tile corresponds to which number?"
In other news, I spent my break playing Diddy Kong Racing and Goldeneye.
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Q: How do I know which SaintWacko tile corresponds to which number?

SaintWackoIn 2048: SaintWacko Edition, each tile says SaintWacko. How do I know which tile is which?

@Lazers Yeah, if this wasn't officially stupid before, it's officially stupid now
And it's official. This site is moronic.
@Lazers I....I wasn't serious.
15:53
What have I done
There probably needs to be a meta ruling about games that can be spit out via online generators
imo
Nah, we should just downvote @SaintWacko question into oblivion to make him feel bad.
I wish I could redelete my account over that question.
Public shaming cures many things.
15:56
I have a great idea
@Wipqozn Aww :(
@OrigamiRobot couldn't you just make a new account and then delete it?
@SaintWacko NO FUN ALLOWED
user58869
@PanicBomb what is it?
@Wipqozn I have a few rep to spare :P
@Wipqozn That goes against my lazy policy.
15:57
You'll see in a sec
@Wipqozn To be fair, this question could easily be turned into a general question: Which color represents each number?
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Q: Does my wifi connection have anything to do with lag on multiplayer?

JustinI am at a campsite right now that has wifi and the connection is not very good. I was wondering if this affects the lag produced while playing multiplayer on minecraft.

Actually, you know what? I'll just delete that question and get a badge out of it!
@SaintWacko Though to that point it doesn't apply to the one that spawned the first of those questions we got.
Sadly? Xbone 2048 is by far the farthest I've ever gotten in 2048
16:00
Arqade rep train here I come games.usvsth3m.com/2048/portal-edition
user58869
@PanicBomb certainly should be one
user58869
@PanicBomb that's very nice
@SaintWacko you can change the boxes themselves to just be images.
@Wipqozn Oh, okay
16:05
@SaintWacko DOWNVOTES SUCCESSFUL
> You've earned the "Peer Pressure" badge for How do I know which SaintWacko tile corresponds to which number?.
Excellent. Peer pressure wins again.
@BenBrocka I see a suspicious lack of Doritos.
user58869
who owns the doge graphic? is permission required to use it?
user58869
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16:10
i noticed that the doge2048 game doesn't seem to work on windows phone 8
Farthest I've ever gotten
user58869
so i'm thinking, if i make a windows phone version do i need permission to use the image of the dog
@TimStone I made the mistake of making Mountain Dew and Doritos too high of numbers. Should have moved Water Cooler and EA Sports up a few instead
Ahh. Well, they are the ultimate prize.
Look at the source code of that page. That text art is how I feel about 2048.
16:12
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Q: How can I restore a transmogrified item's original appearance?

TroelsI have found some lvl 70 set shoulders today. By mistake (i realise now) I changed the look of them, how do i get the original look back (if possible)?

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Q: Can you turn a single player world to a realm serevr?

EllieI have a few problems. So I am going to get Minecraft-realms, but I want to know if I can use my single player world as my realms world. I have a castle map on there and want to use it with my friends. Have a solution?

@BenBrocka YOU TWEETED THIS ON THE XBONE ACCOUNT, RIGHT?
@BenBrocka Not a fan of COD.
I tried it once and couldn't stand the taste of it.
Mmm, cod. Now I want fish n' chips.
@Alex The Doge photo comes from a Japanese person's personal blog, so technically nobody has the "rights" to use it...but you know how the internet is.
@OrigamiRobot yes
@PanicBomb I want to see a federal case held on whether memes are fair use and watch the judge's head explode with all these new fangled words
user58869
thanks!
@TimStone I'm not that fond of deep fried fish anymore either. It loses so much of the flavour.
@Wipqozn Deep fried is a flavour.
@JasonBerkan It's not a good flavour for fish.
I used to like it, but the more sushi and pan-fried fish I ate the more I grew to dislike it deep fried.
@Wipqozn Yeah - I was agreeing with you. Everything deep fried tastes the same.
user58869
in fact the game itself doesn't work in every browser, at least not in ie11 and safari 5
user58869
works in chrome of course
From that same blog, I sense the potential for a new meme: pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201403/19/90/a0126590_22391210.jpg
@Wipqozn It depends on my mood. In general I agree, but I do like fish n' chips on occasion.
The nearby bar serves a plate of it that's pretty good, especially when paired with drinking.
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Q: Does the amount of people you kill and/or knock out change the ending in Bioshock Infinite's Burial at Sea part 2?

AeoWithout getting in to some spoiler-ish details, very early on in this DLC you are faced with the situation to knock out a person in your path. After doing so, and I'm going to have to paraphrase from here, you state that "it's only going to get messier from here", and are told that "just how mess...

What the hell am I supposed to put here? O_o
Obviously I am typing, as this application has been entirely online.
@Fluttershy "Self-evident".
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Q: Can Treasure Goblins drop legendary items?

RachelI have never seen a legendary item drop from a treasure goblin, and am beginning to wonder if it's even possible for them to drop one. Can Treasure Goblins drop legendary items? And does the type of Treasure Goblin matter? I have read How do the Treasure Goblins work, however it does not addres...

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Q: Tiny Death Star Decoration Event (March 2014)

user72986So far I've only gotten a total of 8 decoration droids over the entire event. Was just wondering if anyone else has had more luck getting them or not.

@Fluttershy Type "no" and really mess with their head
Tempting, but I really need a job. <_< I'm just gonna go with "Yes."
16:32
@BenBrocka Much better.
@Fluttershy I'm assuming they mean something like "can you type faster than 20 WPM", because who knows, maybe it took you 2 hours to fill out the online form
@PanicBomb There's a spot directly below it for "Words Per Minute". <_<
@Fluttershy Haha, well, in that case, I have no idea :P
user58869
@PanicBomb yeah, total meme fodder
@Fluttershy "Typing of the Dead expert"
user58869
16:37
@TimStone eh?
user58869
@Fluttershy what sort of job are you looking for?
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@Fluttershy you still have an active clearance, no?
user58869
@PanicBomb oooh, that's funny
@PanicBomb I actually had the dreamcast keyboard. I forget why. I think I just really wanted to try the near-useless modem features in the Dreamcast (the closest to online game I had was Sonic Adventure 2)
16:45
@BenBrocka Yeah, that was a magical time. So much weird stuff surrounding the Dreamcast. 56k modems, maraca controllers, keyboards, VMUs, and weird imported games
@BenBrocka Also, related to the talk about Mercenary Kings yesterday, it's been announced for PSPlus 3 days after its official release so I feel sort of dumb for buying it on Early Access
@PanicBomb I was thinking of double dipping anyway
Do you have a PS4?
Seems like few in this room do
Apparently you can only hold 500 blood shards at a time. CC @Sterno @OrigamiRobot @Chippies @Yuki @Fluttershy @kalina @Frank
@BenBrocka the fishing controller on the other hand....
@StrixVaria I heard someone in general chat complain about that yesterday, but didn't pay much attention :O
16:48
I can play it with you on either version. I guess PS4 might be my main now if more people pick it up. Hope they get the sales they deserve though, not entirely sure what's in it for the devs that go out on PS+ day 1
@Krazer hahaha
Attention for the PC version is one, but apparently PS+ terms are negotiable so everyone gets a different deal.
@StrixVaria you can also piggy back off someone's bounty clear towards the end to get a free horadric cache
@Krazer Yeah that's pretty nice.
@Krazer As far as I know, but I'm not sure how to find out for sure.
16:49
The blood shard limit just means I'll have to remember to gamble more often.
Yeah I have no idea how the business side of PS+ freebies work. I'm guessing Sony pays the developer a flat fee, but...
@PanicBomb It depends. Some do it for no money at all (just cause 2 was given for no direct compensation). I've heard rumors but no confirmation some might get a flat fee or a % of what they would have gotten if it was paid
Do any of the diablo'ers have any star/flawless star/perfect star gems they could let me combine into radiant star? I'm willing to pay somehow
@BenBrocka Ah, so it varies from product to product, interesting.
But PS is kind of acting like curation for indies in a way now, so it's possible they're doing it to boost PC sales and mindshare too
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16:50
@Chippies where do those gems come from?
@Chippies I got rid of all my <Marquise gems.
mostly AH, lol
@PanicBomb yeah, it's hands-on with Sony. Not sure how they do it exactly, but they're pretty good at picking stuff
Man, sure gets a lot of traffic
I want it for the achiev, which is nearly impossible to do now
you need around 2.5k flawless squares to make one radiant star...
16:51
They'll probably try and pick up a cheaper AAA game soon for PS4 though, lots of people bitching about PS4's PS+ having several indies
and nothing else drops in between
@Fluttershy If you haven't used or or haven't been employed by a company that has it, it's probably expired. However you can probably get it reinstated, if you find a position that uses it
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@Chippies i haven't played diablo 3 for a long time... is there some kind of crafting sub game, is that what you describe?
@BenBrocka In terms of AAA games, I've enjoyed the new Infamous, and that Tomb Raider Definitive thing
@Alex there's a Jeweler that lets you combine 3 lower grade jewels into higher grade
@Alex and there's an achievement for crafting radiant star quality gem of each type
16:53
@Chippies if you call that a mini game
@MBraedley I don't call it a mini-game
@PanicBomb Absolutely love Infamous. It won't be on PS+ any time soon though. Was thinking more like base version of COD/BF4 (since they have DLC to sell) or maybe Thief/AC4 (since AC is annual and Thief is already getting major sales)
Ah, yeah, AC4 is really good too, as someone who's not a diehard AC fan
@StrixVaria Fear not, I continually use them to gamble for worthless items
16:54
I only have MGS Ground Zeros, Second Son and Killzone as far as retail games go. Maybe 10 digital games
Yeah I definitely have more indie/small games than AAA games right now too, if only because there hasn't been much AAA stuff yet
I'm okay with that, the AAA games take time and lots of the indies have been great. And PS3 is still/has still been getting good stuff
JRPGs will take at LEAST a year to stop coming out on PS3
Yep, absolutely
I recently re-acquired a PS3 to play the stuff I've missed over the past few years and it's crazy how much good stuff is still coming out for it
@BenBrocka No Knack?
In just the last two months or so, I've bought Diablo 3, South Park, Dark Souls 2, and Persona 5 is still a ways out
16:57
Yeah PS3 really turned it around. Which is sort of bittersweet; it's amazing it's still getting support and that's really cool, on the other hand I would 100% prefer to play everything on my PS4
@Krazer Not until it's bargain bin or PS+. I almost got it for the "3 for 2" deals but just got Killzone, and reviews/word of mouth soured me on it

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