The Bridge

Frank

17:00

I don't mind videos helping an answer. There's nothing wrong with using them as supplemental information.

Wipqozn

If you think a video only answer uses apoor video to answer the question you can downvote.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot Well, okay, I'll give you that. That, too, would be a reason for a video. But then, also, just for the audio, not for the whole answer.

Wipqozn

We downvote for poor quality, not delete.

Frank

But. They. Are. Not. Answers.

@Wipqozn No. I cannot stress how much I disagree with you on this.

Videos are not answers.

Wipqozn

and cannot stress how much I disagree with.

Frank

17:00

They are, at best, supplemental information.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger No, I'm saying both in tandem. If a video can avoid confusing pronouns by pointing out what it's talking about, it's 100% more useful than text.

Wipqozn

and your arguments seem to be missing the point to be honest. Link rotting isn't the main problem with link only answers, and quality is irrelevant since quality is for downvotes.

Frank

The fact that youtube videos are embedded here is a bonus.

Without that, they couldn't even be seen as answers.

Wipqozn

but they are embedded.

Frank

They are just links. Links that happen to pull the content.

@Wipqozn And if we pulled content from links, too?

Would they count as answers, too?

Wipqozn

17:02

@Frank Yes, because that's what we currently do.

OrigamiRobot

Videos show whereas text tells. Sometimes showing is better than telling.

Frank

@Wipqozn No, we currently delete video only answers.

Wipqozn

@Frank I'm talking about link only.

It doesn't automatically pull content, we manually pull the content.

Frank

@Wipqozn Yeah, we delete those, too.

Wipqozn

@Frank No, we don't. Look back at what I replied to, you misunderstood.

spugsley

17:04

ALSO IT'S IAN'S BIRTHDAY

OrigamiRobot

Which reminds me, instructional "videos" that just consist of a slideshow with text overlayed and no audio ARE THE LITERAL WORST!

Frank

@Wipqozn Both examples are things we currently delete. You're arguing that since we have functionality in place for a certain type of link, it should count as an answer.

Ullallulloo

FFXIV's on Steam

Wipqozn

Would we delete answers with links if pulled info from the links? No. our current policiy is pull info from the link for it to not be deleted.

Frank

@Wipqozn Which makes the link supplemental.

And not required to answer the question.

Wipqozn

17:05

@Frank Yes it does.

OrigamiRobot

@spugsley INB4

Frank

@Wipqozn How?

Wipqozn

If you pull information from somewhere you should be posting the source.

spugsley

@Wipqozn BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Frank

All the link does is provide attribution.

And give you somewhere to go to learn more about it.

FEichinger

17:05

If the video were uploaded like an image and hosted with StackExchange, just linking back to YouTube, it would be "the same as what we do to link only answers".

Wipqozn

Also, we don't require the user to pull everything from a link, just the most relevant bits.

Frank

It isn't actually necessary to answer the question.

@Wipqozn Exactly.

Wipqozn

Also, you're sitll missing the point.

Frank

And that's not something we can do with videos.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn The video equivalent of that is uploading a gif from the video to imgur.

Frank

17:06

We're stuck with whatever cruft the poster adds to the video, whether we like it or not.

FEichinger

(This ignores audio again, but this is more about the concept.)

Wipqozn

We do embedd videos on the site. To make an argment as if they weren't just doesn't make any sense.

badp

I'm trying to join #twitchplayspokemon the actual channel from IRC, and it's taking several minutes

FEichinger

@Wipqozn But the moment the link dies, the video dies. Big difference from what we do with link only answers - if the link dies, the quote we have still remains.

badp

if you are using Irssi it's: /server 199.9.252.26 80 (the token from twitchapps.com/tmi) (your Twitch username)

Wipqozn

17:07

@FEichinger and when someone sees it's flagged and deleted.

badp

then /join #twitchplayspokemon and much patience.

Wipqozn

Link rot is not the main reason we don't allow link only answers.

Frank

@Wipqozn And we're embedding an unalterable content type.

We can't edit that video. We can't make the information clearer.

Wipqozn

I'm not sure how many times I need to say that.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn I'm not saying that, am I now?

Frank

17:07

What we see is what we get, cruft and all.

Wipqozn

@FEichinger That's...exactly what you said.

1 min ago, by FEichinger

@Wipqozn But the moment the link dies, the video dies. Big difference from what we do with link only answers - if the link dies, the quote we have still remains.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn You are the one saying we're doing "the same thing" for link-only answers, as what we do for Youtube links that get embedded.

And I'm saying that's not the case.

Because there's a fundamental difference between quoting what we link to and embedding the active link.

OrigamiRobot

Man, I hope @Wipqozn gets stuck in this argument and I can get the jump on him in Banished.

badp

@Wipqozn When I argued for it, link rot was one of the main reasons. Also, the possibility of bait and switch (post answer linking to blog, wait for answer to be accepted, silently change link) and generally discouraging people hiding their answers behind adwalls.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot I'm trying my best here.

Ben Brocka

17:09

Hadn't seen this one: Twitch fights itself. Would be better with proper quarter circle/etc inputs

Wipqozn

@FEichinger @Frank was the one who made the initial comparison, I'm just addressing it.

Frank

@Wipqozn And link rot is one of the main problems, as I see it.

We're probably gonna go at this with hammer and tongs, since I won't give this up.

badp

Essentially yes, it's a way to fight information rot. Helpful websites go down and change link schemes all the time, especially personal blogs.

Frank

You haven't argued anything that has convinced me that video answers are fundamentally different from link only anwers.

badp

Hell, even microsoft.com was terribad at not breaking links.

Sconibulus

17:11

@BenBrocka this seems way too slow at fetching inputs

Frank

Other than, "Sometimes, it's the best way to answer a question". Which, in that case, the video can be added as supplemental information, for those that prefer it.

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Meh, they'd need something turn-based.

Ben Brocka

Yeah, it's pretty slow

Frank

But nowhere, at ANY time, should the video BE the answer.

badp

@Frank Well Youtube videos are read-only, so many of the things I've described can't happen. Also we can assume that YouTube is going to be around for the long run. Not so much for the accounts of the uploaders, however. Also there's a problem of ContentID/GEMA/etc.

Sconibulus

17:11

@Frank I could agree with that

Ben Brocka

that or the chat feed isn't synced to the action well

Lazers

0

Q: Did I lose my ship forever?

For nostalgic reasons I was playing the original Port Royale the other night when my convoy was attacked by pirates. Needless to say I dispatched of these black hearted scoundrels and in doing so captured one of their vessels. I then sailed to the nearest port to do some trading, where I took...

port-royale

Frank

4 mins ago, by Frank

@Wipqozn And we're embedding an unalterable content type.

Which is yet another thing that runs contrary to SE's crowdsourced expertise.

badp

Immutability is actually a very good property for links.

Frank

Either way, we're linking to an outside resource that we can't alter to make a message clearer.

@badp For supplemental information? Yeah, definitely.

To answer a question, nope.

Wipqozn

17:13

@Frank What if it's a video made by one of our users to answer the question?

In that case the video was tailor made for the answer.

Frank

@Wipqozn That is awesome. It's still not an acceptable content type on it's own.

Sconibulus

At the very least, a summary of the major relevant findings from the video should accompany it

badp

@Wipqozn The gist of the answer should still be given in text for those who don't have Flash installed, or are blocked from viewing the video because of ContentID, or whatnot.

3ventic

@Wipqozn But how often do we see answers that are never edited for clarity/updates/whatever else

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger not sure that'd be better or worse since the input is still basically random. Could try a pokemon battle simulator I guess

badp

17:14

@3ventic Information rot is our main problem, and a few of our recent changes of heart on, say, Minecraft is definitely not helping.

Wipqozn

@Sconibulus Okay. How is that different from just linking to an already existing video? (I know there's a difference, just follow me here).

OrigamiRobot

Writing a big block of text that describes what's happening in a video is usually the biggest waste of time ever.

badp

"HEY WHAT IF PEOPLE ARE RUNNING 0.2.1 CREATIVE ALPHA MODE IT'S NOW AN OPTION IN THE LAUNCHER MY COUSIN PLAYS IT ALL THE TIME WE CAN'T DELETE CONTENT FOR IT"

@OrigamiRobot Well, the video becomes the waste of time, yes.

3ventic

I start feeling like an old user of the site when I every few weeks randomly find an answer of mine that needs updating

Wipqozn

@badp I disagree 110%. I don't think every answer needs to help every single user. the users who can't view the video can look at a text only answer. If a user posts a video only answer there is nothing stopping someone else from posting a text only answer.

Sconibulus

17:15

@Wipqozn If the video goes down, the summary is still there to be useful.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice What on earth do I do with the battery?

Wipqozn

@Sconibulus You don't seem to know what I'm talking about. Please reread.

badp

@Wipqozn You don't always have the luxury of watching a video online here and now. Data caps are a thing that exist. Shitty mobile connections are a thing that exist. Country restrictions are a thing that exist. They are all terrible and we should not be compounding on the terribleness.

Ben Brocka

Lick the battery
*this is not medical advice

badp

That does not make the internet a better place to be.

Wipqozn

17:17

@badp Which is a problem for some users in some situations.

badp

Also

Google cannot index the contents of a video.

Wipqozn

Banning an entire answer type just because it's not helpful for some users is just silly.

Frank

@Wipqozn I kinda see this as a strawman argument.

badp

Not placing a terse text description by the video hurts discoverability of the answer, of the question and thus removes value from it.

Frank

But, either way, I've said my piece, and I'm done.

Wipqozn

17:18

@Frank It's not. I'm addressing one specific concern. Which is "this isn't useful to everyone."

badp

By making a per-answer video, you've gone well above and beyond of what we expect people to do. But you should still provide the basic answer.

Wipqozn

@Frank Could you please my above question before calling it quits?

Sconibulus

@Wipqozn Huh? I said something about including a summary with the video, you asked me what the difference was between just linking a video, I said if the video has a problem, there's still the summary.

Wipqozn

@Sconibulus ........................fuck

I replied to the wrong person. I was wondering why the reply message suddenly changed.

badp

@Wipqozn Our answers can't be useful to everybody in the world and we aren't going to start asking people to translate them in 200+ languages to fix that. However, writing a blurb for a video you've linked is a very, very small ask.

Wipqozn

17:19

and also why @Frank ignored what I said.

It was very unfrank like.

badp

Especially if you produced the video, writing a few lines about it is really menial work.

Frank

@Wipqozn The thing is, we can assume people can read. Have to, to be online. That's a medium we can always count on people to understand.

We can't make an assumption that people can see videos.

badp

If you're instead going to just link to somebody else who uploaded a video on YouTube, well, frankly, you don't deserve reputation for that, even if the video is the best thing ever.

Your contribution should be more than ctrl-c ctrl-v.

3ventic

@badp it depends on the blurb

badp

It probably wouldn't be accepted by the site's quality filters anyway.

Frank

17:20

@Wipqozn You want me to respond to this?

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Solves the problem of mis-reading input, though.

You could just poll for X seconds per turn, then execute that command, and go for the next turn.

badp

@3ventic The requirement is a small blurb. You've gone above and beyond and you're being rewarded for it.

3ventic

I don't see how anything less would be helpful without watching the video

Wipqozn

@Frank I was intended to be asking the difference a video you make yourself and one someone else makes and you just upload. I was going to point out the "unalterable" argument just boils down to a question of quality, which is for downvotes and not deletion.

3ventic

The video's description is already there for the "small blurb"

Wipqozn

17:21

I was just going to try and do it in a tricky way, and then I just failed miserably.

Sconibulus

@3ventic Just your initial listing of the goal is probably sufficient for the description blurb.

You say what needs to happen, and link a video showing how to do it

Frank

@Wipqozn I do think that people that make videos to answer questions here are a good thing. I really do.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn This has nothing to do with "being useful to everyone", in my opinion. It has to do with being useful in the future, in a manner that is sufficiently accessible to everyone.

badp

@3ventic I haven't done the puzzle myself, but there's going to be a more obvious and a less obvious part of it. You could simply say "It is rather trivial to reach this point: (picture) Now what you have to do is (explain trick to the puzzle.) After that it's smooth sailing."

3ventic

@Sconibulus Alright, now I'm on the same page

Frank

17:22

I just don't think that videos, by themselves, are anything that can be seen as good (or even an) answer.

Wipqozn

@FEichinger Your last few words contradict what you said.

badp

I'm discussing the minimum bar for acceptability, not what is the awesome, helpful thing to do.

Sconibulus

@3ventic The extra description does make it a better answer though

FEichinger

@Wipqozn No it absolutely doesn't.

Wipqozn

and as @OrigamiRobot (who may or may not agree with me on the larger issue) and I have both said, sometimes a video is the best answer to the question.

Frank

17:23

If that's all you wanted me to answer, I'll take my leave from this discussion now.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn Okay, I'm done with this. I've addressed this point three times now, and you're still arguing in absolutes.

Wipqozn

@FEichinger Yes it is. Being useful to everyone === being accessible to everyone. At least what's what it means i the context of what I'm referring to.

@FEichinger No, I'm not. at all.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger He really isn't.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn No, "being useful to everyone" is not the same as "being accessible to everyone" (which isn't even what I said).

Yuki

@FEichinger I don't think @Wipqozn is a Sith.

OrigamiRobot

17:25

From what I can tell, @Frank is the only one arguing in absolutes here.

Wipqozn

@FEichinger Last time I checked "sometimes" isn't an absolute.

@FEichinger It is in the context of what I'm saying.

Maybe I should have chose a better word than "useful", but what I intended should be clear since it's in reply to @badps concerns of people not being able to view the answer.

badp

I hereby condemn Wipqozn to using Firefox without Flash installed for a week!

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Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Yes, I am just pointing out that the absolute of "a video isn't always the best answer" is wrong.

badp

...which is what I've been having to do

Sconibulus

@Wipqozn In what scenario would a video be such a good answer that it wouldn't be better with a description?

Wipqozn

17:27

@badp You're a monster.

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Yuki

@OrigamiRobot Does this mean I should hum the Imperial March every time @Frank joins the chat?

Wipqozn

@Sconibulus I didn't say that. I'm not saying adding in a description is a bad idea, just that it isn't always needed.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Which I agree with.

Frank

@Wipqozn I'm not sure how that statement is an absolute of any sort.

Wipqozn

@Frank It's not. I fucked up my phrasing.

I only just realized it now.

OrigamiRobot

17:28

Is a video only answer always better? Hell no. Is it better most of the time? Not even. Is there any situation where it is better? Sure.

Wipqozn

isn't should be never.

badp

@Wipqozn Yes, sometimes it is. Sometimes you're just interested in a three second nugget of information buried four minutes into a video with intros, dramatic buildups and whatnot.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Yup. It all depends on the question and the video itself.

Frank

@Wipqozn "A video ~~isn't~~ never always the best answer"? :P

Yeah, I'm pulling your chain. I get what you're saying.

badp

Take e.g. the gun part missions in Borderlands 1

Wipqozn

17:29

@badp Which is why people can still post text only answers, or could make their own video. or could link to the relevant timestmap.

badp

Having a video going through all the hidden parts can be the best answer.

Wipqozn

@Frank Sometimes I think I should hire a monkey to type for me. They might have better success.

badp

But if I'm just missing one piece and it's the last on the list, I'm gonna have a bad time.

Frank

@Wipqozn Maybe. But I think that's part of your charm.

badp

@Wipqozn It's unreasonable to ask a question about where the handle of the pistol is, however. The question will be about the mission as a whole.

Wipqozn

17:30

@badp that sounds like a good reason to downvote and comment to me.

@Frank It's funny, I never make these kinds of mistakes in coding.

SaintWacko

@RedRiderX@yuki @FAE @AshleyNunn I HAVE A SHIP!

Yuki

@SaintWacko Congrats! I'm 2 Antique Mysteries away from the hotel room.

Frank

@Wipqozn Compilers tend to freak out and just not work if you misspell something.

RedRiderX

@SaintWacko Nice!

Frank

English doesn't work that way, unfortunately.

badp

17:30

So what you can do is have the video and then a bulleted list

Wipqozn

Scumbag English. Not being sentient.

SaintWacko

I got the Respectable Pleasure Yacht

3

badp

* Scope: below the blue tent
* Handle: above the red tent
* Magazine: on the water tanks
etc.

SaintWacko

Cost me 5000 Deep Amber, 5 Cellars of Wine, 5 Favours in High Places, and 5 Comprehensive Bribes

Yuki

@SaintWacko Daaaang.

SaintWacko

17:31

@Yuki Yeah

Wipqozn

Also, just to clarify: If someone posts a 30 minute video, and the answer isn't until 20 minutes in, I fully support deletion. Since that's the same problem as just linking to a wiki page where the answer is half way down.

SaintWacko

And even with all that, the odds were strongly against me that I'd get it

Yuki

Rargh, after I get the hotel room I need to get lots of Masquing so I get the Affable Spy.

Sconibulus

@SaintWacko You had multiple wine cellars? holy crap

SaintWacko

Fortunately I got lucky and got it the first time

Sconibulus

17:32

where did you store them?

Wipqozn

Since that's the same problem as just linking to a wiki page where the answer is half way down.

Yuki

Or one of the other good Companions.

SaintWacko

@Sconibulus I've been grinding materials for the past week or two

@Sconibulus In my wine cellar cellar

Duh :P

Frank

@Wipqozn Gotta say, though: even though we disagree on this rather emphatically, I applaud you arguing your side. I still respect your opinion.

RedRiderX

@Yuki I ended up getting a pretty meh companion

but the others take so many masquing.

badp

17:33

@Sterno I'm so sorry to learn that you are not the best at being old. You'll still be in our hearts however, Sternold. squeeze cheek

Wipqozn

@Frank I may not agree with your opinion, but I will fight to the death to defend your right to type it.

badp

It's not so bad to be mediocre! Most people are!

Yuki

@RedRiderX Yeah, you need lots of Masquing to get the others. The Feast of the Rose tends to be better for people with lots of PoSI friends.

Which is annoying.

RedRiderX

Yeah

Wipqozn

I should make up a meta post later this week with an answer summarizing my thoughts. Chat can get all over the place.

SaintWacko

17:34

Now I need to figure out what to do next...

Also, when does the Feast end?

RedRiderX

It might be a week long thing but I don't know

Wipqozn

Because I don't think all video only answers are fine, but I also don't think they are all bad. I think they are a separate, albeit similar, thing than link only answers.

RedRiderX

they are always pretty vauge about end dates for things

Frank

@Wipqozn I'll do you one better:

Wipqozn

@Frank This delay is anti-climatic.

Frank

17:35

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Q: Youtube links by new users

Lately, I've been running into answers by low rep users that either consist of "this video answers the question" and don't actually detail what the video shows, or post a video that has no bearing on the answer whatsoever. The vast majority of these users do not continue to use the site beyond a...

discussion

My very first meta post!

Wipqozn

1

A: Youtube links by new users

The only inherent problem I see with video-only answers is that they are very similar to link-only only answers, which we don't permit here. However, I believe that videos can sometimes answer a question much better than any text answer can, and this applies to video-only answers as well. Due to ...

Well look at that.

reads my answer to see what I said

> The only inherent problem I see with video-only answers is that they are very similar to link-only only answers, which we don't permit here.

No they're not. Stupid turtle.

Frank

I was being nice and not bringing up your previous words!

Wipqozn

SIMILAR BUT NOT VERY.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Read your next sentence.

Wipqozn

@Frank There's nothing wrong with changing an opinion.

@OrigamiRobot okay

Yuki

17:37

Okay, I'm getting really tired of running into this "Do you have these symptoms?" ad. It's friggin' annoying.

Wipqozn

The rest of that I like.

LessPop_MoreFizz

My problem with video only answers is that 99% of the time it's a youtube video of some dude saying aloud something that could've easily been written in a paragraph or two.

Which is basically one of my all time biggest pet peeves.

tombull89

5.34GB of BF4's Second Assault downloading. Hnng.

LessPop_MoreFizz

When a youtube video actually demonstrates a thing that is difficult to explains without the visual component, like a pattern of movement or whatever, that's fine, but it almost never is.

OrigamiRobot

34 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

Which reminds me, instructional "videos" that just consist of a slideshow with text overlayed and no audio ARE THE LITERAL WORST!

Wipqozn

17:38

I'll probably edit that later, or make up a new one.

SaintWacko

I am watching the clock until it is time for me to go home and play civ

FEichinger

@LessPop_MoreFizz This is what I've been saying, yes.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz I agree they often aren't the best answer. I just don't think we should be banning them outright because they're usually bad.

Frank

@Wipqozn I've distracted you long enough. Banished goes live in twenty minutes.

Wipqozn

@Frank 1 hour and 20 I think.

Also I'm still at work.

LessPop_MoreFizz

17:39

@OrigamiRobot No. Those aren't as bad as the ones that don't even have text and instead force me to listen to bad audio of a dude whose clearly mouth breathing and has never bothered to actually listen to how they sound on a microphone before.

Wipqozn

...although I've been too busy arguing to work...

@FEichinger That's not the impression I got at all. I was under the impression you were saying they are never fine. If that's not the case, I apologize for the misunderstanding.

@Frank Are you home right now?

LessPop_MoreFizz

I just aggressively down vote youtube answers whenever I encounter them if there's no indication from the question that a video would in any way be helpful.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn No, at the very start I said I disagree with both of you, because videos should only be used when it's about something that actually needs a video. And I can't think of a single answer that would be complete with such a video alone.

Frank

@Wipqozn No, I'm arguing over site policy from a random cafe somewhere. :P

LessPop_MoreFizz

I would encourage you all to do the same.

Wipqozn

17:41

@Frank I... I honestly don't know if that's sarcasm or not.

Frank

@Wipqozn 'tis.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank You say this like it's not a thing that I do on a regular basis.

Wipqozn

I just wanted you to send me this into my in steam so I have it when I get home: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/a/4969/8350

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz I have to deal with sub-zero temperatures on a daily basis when I go out.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's why I'm not sure of the sarcasm.

MBraedley

17:42

Yay, my SO question got an answer. And it worked! Now I'll be so much more productive! (not)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank If you're using wierdo celcius, so do I at the moment.

Though it's finally cracking freezing today

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, hey. It's only -2 right now.

That's spring jacket weather!

@Wipqozn I would, if you were online.

MBraedley

@Frank Still crazy I see

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz Last week we were snowed in. Today it's 60F. Yay NC climate!

FEichinger

Aaaand RNG is going back into the forest ...

Wipqozn

17:43

@Frank You can send messages when offline now. I'll see it when I sign on.

Yuki

Frank

@MBraedley Manitoban.

Wipqozn

If it's too much trouble don't bother. I can just crawl thrugh your meta answers to the earliest oe.

Frank

I don't know if that counts as crazy or not.

@Wipqozn Already sent.

Forgot that was a chat feature.

Wipqozn

@MBraedley I agree with @Frank.

-2 can be solved with a spring jacket.

@Frank Thank you sir.

OrigamiRobot

17:45

@Wipqozn I agree.

Wipqozn

> This game will unlock in approximately 2 hours

MBraedley

@Wipqozn Spring jacket doesn't come out until the daily high was above 5° for 3 straight days.

Wipqozn

Yeah, not until 3.

Frank

Not that I'm going to wear a spring jacket; it's supposed to drop below -10 overnight, and I have somewhere to be tonight.

OrigamiRobot

But my spring jacket is a wool coat.

Wipqozn

17:45

@Frank Dance class?

Frank

@Wipqozn Panic management class.

Wipqozn

@Frank Sounds stressful.

MBraedley

Temperatures between 0° and 5° can be solved by not zipping up the winter jacket

Frank

@Wipqozn Actually, it's kinda nice. Dealing with omnipresent anxiety has been pretty rough for the last few days.

Wipqozn

@Frank That reminds me, how is the job hunt going?

Frank

17:47

@Wipqozn It's not; I'm being lazy about it.

Wipqozn

That works.

Lazers

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Q: what determines which moves can a Pokemon learn

I am wondering if you can tell by Pokemon types/egg group/looks if they have access to an specific move or if it is just a fixed move set for each one. For instance, does Electabuzz can learn fire/ice punch for any particular reason? Or is it just someone at gamefreak saying 'he can 'cause I sai...

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Frank

Especially now, with Lightning Returns, some freelance work, and generally being quite busy, even without a job.

Wipqozn

@Frank Ah right, I forgot you did freelancing.

@Lazers I think the answer is just "because game freak", but I'm curious now too.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Ken Levine is firing nearly everybody at Irrational.

FEichinger

17:52

Ugh, democracy is winning again...

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OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger Why isn't it disabled yet?

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot Because they suck.

Right now they're making less progress than RNG - and RNG just went back into the forest.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger All the people that are spamming democracy instead of actual commands are hurting now.

FEichinger

Yep.

Yuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz "Thank you for helping me make some of the best video games ever. Now go f--k yourself and find a new job."

Note, I know that's not what he's actually saying. I think.

LessPop_MoreFizz

17:56

@Yuki Eh, it sure is what it reads like to me.

Yuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz Now I'm not sure if I want Burial at Sea 2 to come out now that I know that means he's firing pretty much everyone at Irrational.

Ben Brocka

@LessPop_MoreFizz Damn

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko You need several of them to open a certain door, I think.

mondrian.io is a webapp for creating vector graphics.

Pretty cool.

This may come in handy for me at some point.

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