The Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

1:04 PM

And the graphviz script is here, run with circo for the above graph

Also, @Frank hasn't been hamstared since he changed his name!

Wandang

can you create a grid for regular pns?

just reducing the scale to 100 massages per line?

Kevin van der Velden

@Wandang hmm, a 100 massages hey?

It's possible, I'd need a data dump for it though

Wandang

one lines equals to 100 messages

so it will not be blown up

Lazers

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Q: Name of old DOS game

I'm looking for an old DOS game which I used to play when I was little. The game was just a grid. The player started at the top left and the enemy at the bottom right. The aim of the game was to go over every line in the grid. When you succeeded you went on to the next level, which had a grid th...

dos

Kevin van der Velden

@Wandang yes, but you typo-ed and I replied to the typo =p

Wandang

1:08 PM

...

badp

@KevinvanderVelden it's much cleaner if you add 'concentrate=true'

Kevin van der Velden

@badp yeah, but it doesn't show the amount of hamstares then

With my graph you can see that @fredley and me HamStare each other a lot, with concentrate=true you can only see that we've hamstared eachother

Correction: You can't even see that, you can just see that fredley hamstared me.

badp

1

A: Specifying thickness of lines in graphviz

Is penwidth what you are looking for?

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden I think you should start a staring relation with @RedRiderX. Then you can have a neat triangular stare relation between you two and @fredley

badp

If you want to do that you can just make ticker lines instead of repeat lines

fredley

1:14 PM

@KevinvanderVelden ......

Kevin van der Velden

@badp I could probably do that

I think this looks cooler though :)

fredley

Weighted lines would be best

Kevin van der Velden

I've posted the source if you want =p

fredley

I wonder if, by this point, it would have been quicker to draw the graph in Photoshop than do it in graphviz? :-P

badp

@fredley No.

fredley

1:16 PM

@badp Depends how fast you can Photoshop

badp

@fredley So now you have photoshopped it with nicknames and you realize you wanted to use gravatars instead. You could start over with photoshop, or hack together something else to change the node labels to pseudo-HTML

Kevin van der Velden

RedRiderX

Hey Sticher is nice on Android

Kevin van der Velden

It looses something =[

I realised I could just run the thing through sort and uniq and be done in 2 minutes

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Please sort out that ...

OrigamiRobot

1:19 PM

@KevinvanderVelden I prefer the multiple lines.

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Me too actually

Kevin van der Velden

See!

@fredley I have no idea what that "..." is doing over there

FEichinger

@Kevin I usually do <insert HamStare> nowadays

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Now here's where something takes hours in graphviz that takes 2 seconds in Photoshop

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley Meh, I could just delete it =p

Wandang

1:21 PM

i get so much love from @uni and @fred

Kevin van der Velden

@Wandang also from yourself

badp

@KevinvanderVelden It's a one-liner

fredley

@Wandang love != stares

Kevin van der Velden

Course, so does fredley

@badp I am not a graphviz pro, I just play one on TV chat.

badp

@KevinvanderVelden Just remove the Unionhawk -> ... line

and the reference to ... at the top

Wandang

1:23 PM

@KevinvanderVelden you might not be a graphviz prog but you certainly are bored at the moment :D

Kevin van der Velden

3 mins ago, by Kevin van der Velden

@fredley Meh, I could just delete it =p

.. WRONG QUOTE

up arrow

O.o

you're welcome

@badp no I knew that bit, I just wondered why it edited to the exact same message

FEichinger

1:24 PM

Stop posting those huge images, I'm on mobile >.>

Kevin van der Velden

But that was because I was dragging the replied-to icon rather than the arrow thing

@FEichinger aah sorry =[

There should be a turn-oneboxing-off button on mobile

RedRiderX

@Arperum Hmm that would be interesting

Ugh can you not just add podcasts into sticher!?

they have to be in their own list?

3ventic

@badp What's this?

badp

@3ventic People being lazy at each other

Kevin van der Velden

@3ventic hamstare graph!

fredley

1:30 PM

Arperum

@fredley Conflicting data. LogicException.

OrigamiRobot

Sterno

3ventic

@Arperum It's not left, it's the other left!

Matt Эллен

Nice try, but no, the wrong way

Arperum

1:36 PM

@Sterno Is that some kind of Canadian Hulk?

RedRiderX

Scientist study Facebook and its spread as a literal virus, and say it's set to lose 80% of users as immunization to it is built.

Sterno

@Arperum Pretty sure Canadian hulk is red and white

RedRiderX

Sterno

I was really hoping that Hulk Hogan was Canadian, but alas.

Arperum

@Sterno Even American Hulk is green and not stars-and-stripes colored. I'm pretty sure Canada can handle a green Hulk.

Animated gifs are still cancer.

Sterno

1:39 PM

American Hulk is green because green is the color of envy, and everyone envies Americans.

Arperum

Get that thing of my screen.

stab

poke

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum use the fire extension dummy =p

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden No, too lazy to move the mouse that far.

Also: it's gone now.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum my mouse cursor just hovers over the reply button

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden That's a whole distance from the fire button.

Kevin van der Velden

1:41 PM

@Arperum tru, but I'm not the one complaining about the gifs!

Mostly because I already burned them

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden It's offscreen. Both of us win.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Sounds like any of the Call of Duty series — Loko 26 mins ago

Helpful.

Arperum

Back to DB design for me it is.

Kevin van der Velden

@LessPop_MoreFizz I want to reply "Just because it is linear and all you do is clear everything the game tells you to doesn't mean it's a Call of Duty game"

Arperum

@LessPop_MoreFizz Very. It really sounds FPS like.

badp

1:43 PM

last try

I think this looks reasonable

fredley

@badp The line from me to @kalina is very wobbly

badp

@fredley You're so far apart

and drifting away

Arperum

@badp Wavy.

badp

actually the problem is it's collating lines it shouldn't

fredley

@badp Also, double-ended arrows are bad. I'd like to see the relative thicknesses.

badp

1:45 PM

Yuki

Woah, weird graphs. What's going on?

badp

That's... not as wavy.

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuki we're graphing HamStare usage!

StrixVaria

I feel like I am not adequately represented in this graph.

HamStare @badp

fredley

@badp ಠ_ಠ

StrixVaria

1:46 PM

HamStare @Sterno

fredley

@Sterno ಠ_ಠ

Yuki

@KevinvanderVelden Oooo, sounds interesting.

Kevin van der Velden

I still like this one best

StrixVaria

HamStare @Saw

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp not sure whether to be pleased or upset that I am not on that chart.

badp

1:46 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz pleased

Sterno

@fredley mod-candidate abuse

StrixVaria

Bleh.

badp

you don't rely on @fredley's contraption to express your feelings

Yuki

Huh, I point back to myself on the stare chart.

Sterno

Seriously though, that script is annoying.

Yuki

1:47 PM

HamStare @Yuki

fredley

@Yuki ಠ_ಠ

badp

now @fredley just needs to integrate the data from kalina's fire setting activity

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuki so do fredley and wandang

fredley

@Sterno If I am became mod, HamStare will be handed over to another

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp what does it even depict?

Sconibulus

1:47 PM

why is @gnomeslice on there twice?

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz the use of 'HamStare' as measured a few hours ago

StrixVaria

HamStare @StrixVaria

fredley

@StrixVaria ಠ_ಠ

Arperum

@Yuki Stop Staring at yourself!

Yuki

@Arperum But I look so handsome.

fredley

1:47 PM

@badp Scientists suggest link between staring and being on fire

LessPop_MoreFizz

Oh. Well them. Yeah, hooray for my not being there.

Arperum

@Yuki Wouldn't that be @Wipqozn

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz Precisely.

LessPop_MoreFizz

You people are all insane.

3

Yuki

@Arperum True, I need to find another adjective.

StrixVaria

1:48 PM

HamStare @LessPop_MoreFizz

LessPop_MoreFizz

And on that note, I am off to work.

badp

I'm okay with just being at the receiving end of this lazy-ass insanity

Grace Note

@badp Oh, hah.

StrixVaria

@fredley Your script sucks.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum @Yuki is secretly @Wipqozn's sock puppet

Yuki

1:48 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I think insanity is pretty much a requirement of being a Bridge regular.

fredley

@StrixVaria In what way?

Yuki

@KevinvanderVelden Secretly?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@yuki speak for yourself.

StrixVaria

31 secs ago, by StrixVaria

HamStare @LessPop_MoreFizz

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuki well it was, @Arperum didn't know!

fredley

1:49 PM

@StrixVaria You're staring too fast.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@strix I AM IMMUNE.

fredley

HamStare @LessPop_MoreFizz

@LessPop_MoreFizz ಠ_ಠ

StrixVaria

@fredley Oh it's rate limited. Actually, that's a really good idea.

I guess your script is ok.

fredley

@StrixVaria The rate limits are enforced by chat

Yuki

Oh hey, I'm on there twice too.

fredley

1:49 PM

And also prevent me from speaking

Arperum

@StrixVaria @fredley himself is rate limited.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I'll rate limit you.

fredley

Abuse of Ham will result in Ham going away for good

StrixVaria

Is it against site policy to create a sock puppet to act as a chat bot?

fredley

I wonder if it HamStars as well

HamStar @StrixVaria

It does!

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:50 PM

Quick! All of you idiots! Abuse Ham! Silence Fredley!

7

fredley

I'd forgotten about that

3ventic

@StrixVaria Not if you don't star your own messages or something like that

StrixVaria

HamStar @fredley

I just did that to give you an annoying popup.

fredley

@StrixVaria HamStar is only for me, for obvious reasons

StrixVaria

Did it work?

Yuki

1:51 PM

HamPin @LessPop_MoreFizz

fredley

@StrixVaria No

StrixVaria

@fredley I guess that makes sense :(

Sconibulus

HamStar @LessPop_MoreFizz

fredley

HamStare @Sconibulus

Yuki

44 secs ago, by fredley

@StrixVaria HamStar is only for me, for obvious reasons

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:52 PM

If we all work together, we can ensure that @fredley is never able to speak in chat again! TOGETHER WE CAN DO THIS PEOPLE.

5

fredley

Oh dear

rate limits

@LessPop_MoreFizz NON-MOD-ABUSE

Sterno

@fredley This makes me want to abuse Ham

3ventic

Error: Insufficient mod abuse

fredley

4 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

You people are all insane.

2 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

Quick! All of you idiots! Abuse Ham! Silence Fredley!

Grace Note

@StrixVaria Seeing as the only way to make a chat bot is, essentially, to have a sockpuppet, it isn't against network policy. However, the problems caused by the bot may have consequences.

3

Yuki

1:54 PM

New Bridge euphemism: "abuse Ham".

fredley

@GraceNote But only if the bot causes problems, right?

Grace Note

Well, yes, in order to suffer consequences resultant from a bot causing problems, the bot has to cause problems because that's kind of a tautological statement there.

fredley

@GraceNote So making a problem-free bot is ok? Interesting.

Grace Note

Well, yeah. I believe some of the other sites actually have helpful bots and such.

This is a chat culture. People are going to want chat scripts. Bots enable that.

Matt Эллен

KitSox

31 1 4

dash phrasal-verbs punctuation reflexives

She's the bot for EL&U chat

fredley

1:57 PM

@MattЭллен brb, creating sockpuppets

Martin Sojka

There's a dice thrower bot for RPG.SE chat, though not sure if it's external or not.

Grace Note

@MartinSojka We made that.

Well, let me rephrase, we implemented that on our end.

Just like we implemented insert coin.

Arperum

@MattЭллен She's been in here hammertiming before.

fredley

@GraceNote Can you also implement HamStare? You could rename it to StackStare if you like.

Gaming Topics From Outside

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Q: Extract images from unknown filetype

I have this unknown filetype called .gfx (used in a computer game) which I'm pretty certain contain uncompressed flat images (possible .bmp or .png) but I'm not sure how to extract, export or unpack those images. I've tried things like 7zip, MultiExtractor and so forth without any success. The ...

graphics export extract gaming

Arperum

1:59 PM

@fredley feature-request

Grace Note

@fredley I don't think we'll implement that. If you want to channel your energies of disapproval in an SE-approved way, go shoot people with spaceships.

Matt Эллен

@Arperum I do vaguely remember that being an issue. I think hammertime has been dropped since then :D

fredley

@GraceNote fair enough

Arperum

@MattЭллен It was last month or something I think.

3ventic

insert coin

Yuki

1:59 PM

@GraceNote I never tried that, what does it do?

And is it still a thing?

RedRiderX

Ugh can you not add custom rss podcast feeds to Sticher?

Grace Note

@Yuki It turns the chatroom into a browser-based version of Asteroids. There's a specific name for the game but I forget it off-hand.

Yuki

insert coin

3ventic

Breaks the chat easily, though

needs a refresh

Grace Note

@3ventic Shooting at things to break them up does tend to break things. Again, tautological expectations.

Arperum

2:01 PM

insert coin

3ventic

I mean it breaks autoscroll after you press esc to end it :p

Grace Note

@3ventic Shooting at things to break them up does tend to break things.

3ventic

I didn't shoot the scroll!

Grace Note

You shot chat. Chat broke.

3ventic

I shot images in the chat. The images broke, but so did the chat.

Yuki

2:03 PM

Does it work anywhere else or just on the Bridge?

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, you mean like he did to me when I had PaperStare?

Grace Note

Any Arqade-aligned room.

3ventic

If I break a window, it doesn't mean the house will collapse.

Grace Note

It will if it's a load-bearing window!

3ventic

That's ~~bad~~ broken architecture!

fredley

2:03 PM

retract coin

Grace Note

No, it's perfect anti-thiefery. Thief breaks in via window, house collapses. Thief defeated!

6

Yuki

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
One more day!

Sterno

I think we should focus on making chat less annoying instead of more annoying. Also, can I interest anyone in this link?

5

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno I wish I could see this at work.

Grace Note

We have apparently made 3 different rooms across history for people to just play around with insert coin.

StrixVaria

2:05 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I thought you were at work.

Blem

@OrigamiRobot It is great

Arperum

@Sterno I should learn to recognize that linkpattern, I clicked it, and immediately closed it again.

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot I tried to get a video of Skydrift dancing to it, but whenever the camera came out she'd stop dancing and stare at it instead.

OrigamiRobot

I wish SkyDrift could enjoy the other Ylvis videos, but they have lots of swears.

@Sterno :(

Sterno

Need to buy a nanny cam just so I can catch her dancing.

2

badp

2:09 PM

In principle I'm okay with bots

At some point we're going to outgrow the feeds-based implementation of Lazers and we'll have to roll out our own solution

Matt Эллен

It's just when they start trying to eradicate humanity that things get awkward

OrigamiRobot

StrixVaria

@badp We could replace @GnomeSlice with a bot that randomly links to indie games every few hours.

OrigamiRobot

This card looks like some kind of awkward kiss is going on.

badp

That's going to be an awesome use of chat bots

Probably multiple bots

Like... 10 or so.

And with pubsubnubhub or whatever we could post questions almost in real time.

OrigamiRobot

2:11 PM

@StrixVaria That'd be less frequent!

badp

(Although that thing might be enabled on SO only)

That however is a far cry from a chat bot that posts a look of disapproval on demand :)

Yuki

@Sterno "What does the @Sterno say?!"

badp

IT WILL BE OUR OWN VERY PERSONAL ARMY OF LAZERS. IT WILL BE GLORIOUS.

but for now Lazers is fine.

Sterno

@Yuki Get off my lawn.

RedRiderX

And so it begins: the first person to be formally notified that data stolen by the NSA was being used against them in court is challenging the constitutionality of the NSA's program.

Lazers

2:13 PM

0

Q: Looking for a game similar to Rygar (NES)

20 years ago or something I played a game that looked similar to Rygar. The graphics were better though. It had the same view perspective as when you are in a canyon in that game and you could zipline from one canyon to another. I played it on the (S)NES or Sega platform, not quite sure. It w...

nes snes

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Q: How does a System Repair Drone choose the order of repairs?

When there is only 1 system damaged, it makes its way there (at a leisurely pace) to effect repairs. But when the fertilizer hits the fan, they seem to spend more time running to the opposite end of the ship, and less time fixing broken systems. How does a System Repair Drone choose the order o...

ftl-faster-than-light

Sterno

> Speaking of the meaning of the song, Vegard characterizes it as coming from "a genuine wonder of what the fox says, because we didn’t know."[35] Although interpreted by some commentators as a reference to the furry fandom, the brothers have stated they did not know about its existence when producing "The Fox."

Sure... comedians who have never heard of furries. Totally plausible.

@3ventic 1 star

Exactly.

You can star your own questions. I will just attribute it to that.

3ventic

2:16 PM

Exactly.

It's always funny seeing when people star their own questions

Sterno

ORDERED

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno Do you want to give SkyDrift nightmares?

Have you seen the illustrations?

badp

@Sterno They just made a video of a party where everybody is roaming around in animal masks. How could they know?

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot Skydrift is manlier than you.

OrigamiRobot

That's not difficult.

Yuki

2:19 PM

@Sterno SkyDrift is, in all likelihood, more badass than all of us. Combined.

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot amazon.com/Where-Deep-Ones-Mini-Mythos/dp/1589781031

She does okay with that one. :)

RedRiderX

Oh my.

Tim Stone

Heh, I just got an email from the Microsoft store with the proposition: "Visit your store, let us recycle your PS3, and get $100 of store credit towards the purchase of a new Xbox One" /cc @BenBrocka

RedRiderX

Heh

Blem

@Sterno amazon.com/Cliffourd-Big-Red-Mini-Mythos/dp/1589781252/…

Lazers

2:25 PM

0

Q: How to change displayed button bindings?

I am playing Final Fantasy 8 on Windows using the Steam edition and an Xbox 360 gamepad. I have configured the buttons so that they map to what I remembered from the console version. However I am finding sections such as the train decoupling and Zell's limit break very hard to complete because t...

windows final-fantasy-8

Blem

kalina

@LessPop_MoreFizz note I'm not on there as a sender

Lazers

1

Q: How do I force update?

A new launcher came out for Minecraft on April 18, 2013. With the new launcher, the "force update" button was removed, which wasn't a problem because I haven't needed to force update the game since then. Now I do need to force update, but I don't see how I can do that. Does anybody know how I can...