The Bridge

Arperum

14:00

@Yuki Good. It needs more hate.

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn Ornstein and Smough are dead. I have the Lordvessel. Now I have no idea where to go. <_<

RedRiderX

@Yuki Ah you're already at home then!

GnomeSlice

@Yuki I hate it.

Okay I should go get ready

Jerb interview.

fredley

@Yuki PHP programming: Find the right library call, curse at how the library call is illogical, repeat

Arperum

@GnomeSlice Good luck!

3ventic

14:01

@Fluttershy Frampt or Kaathe depending on which you choose

fredley

@Yuki When you finally switch to rails/django it'll be all the sweeter

Yuki

This is already making me re-think wanting to do web programming.

Arperum

@fredley Don't forget the spend half your time looking for an error that came up in some completely illogical place.

Kevin van der Velden

@GnomeSlice good luck with the jerb-ing

@Yuki meh, PHP is just crap that wasn't at all planned out ever

GnomeSlice

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Thenks. Peace

3ventic

14:03

PHP is great because it works on almost all web servers but horrible because it is.

Yuki

So... there's no native support for displaying a grid of data? I just did a quick search, and the first SO answer is telling me to download extra softwarez.

fredley

@Arperum Miss a ; somewhere, error in somewhere else entirely.

3ventic

@fredley That happens in almost all languages..

fredley

@3ventic Not in Python!!

3ventic

@fredley Does it use ;?

fredley

14:05

@3ventic No!

3ventic

Exactly!

fredley

@3ventic No braces either!

TZHX

It can happen in python, where ; is a valid alternative to a newline.

fredley

Indentation errors immediately obvious!

@TZHX You never use ; in Python without an extremely good reason

3ventic

@TZHX If you write multiple expressions in one line you're doing it wrong

This should never happen:

    $this->t = (getPosition($this->varr, "type") == "cylinder") ? 1317 : ((getPosition($this->varr, "type") == "corona") ? ((getPosition($this->varr, "size") <= 1) ? 19283 : 19296) : ((getPosition($this->varr, "type") == "arrow") ? ((getPosition($this->varr, "size") <= 2) ? 1559 : 19198) : false));

Unionhawk

14:06

"LOOK GUIZE I WROTE THIS COMPLICATED THING IN ONE LINE" "No you didn't."

fredley

@3ventic *shudder*

3ventic

Try to read that out quickly.

fredley

@3ventic That's not just code smell, that's cause for biohazard quarantine

TZHX

I was saying it's technically possible; not advocating it as a coding style.

I don't understand the $this->t ... Python doesn't have a dereference operator does it? And I don't know what $this is...

3ventic

I want to learn ASP.NET but I have no Windows server and I can't be bothered with emulation

Fluttershy

14:09

@3ventic Kaathe? I've never heard that name before.

3ventic

@Fluttershy How spoiler-free explanation do you want?

Arperum

@3ventic I assume you have windows desktop? then you can do things locally at least. Even if you really want to use IIS.

Yuki

I'm tempted to just skip the PHP part of this project.

OrigamiRobot

@3ventic He already gave it to Frampt

3ventic

@OrigamiRobot Ahha

fredley

14:11

@3ventic Stick to free stuff. Learn Django or Rails.

You can learn everything about these with nothing more than a Pi.

3ventic

@fredley Free stuff? When did I start paying for C#?

fredley

@3ventic Wanna deploy a windows server app without paying? Good luck.

Unionhawk

I didn't start paying for C++ either. Woo college free stuff

RedRiderX

@Yuki Making sane code in an insane language is a good skill.

Lazers

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Q: What is the optimal economy layout for a no rush game in Age of Empires 3?

I always have trouble organizing my settlers in a no rush game to gather resources. So let me make a scenario. Let's say I'm playing as the french who have a max villager pop of 70, how many should I task on each resource (Assuming I have the max settler pop) How many on Food, Wood, and Gold? Sa...

age-of-empires-3

3ventic

14:12

I have a license key for Windows server 2012 (for free) but no machine to use it on, I don't really want to host one locally..

fredley

@3ventic Also MS documentation is bad. Bad bad.

@3ventic Host it on an RPi, no wait...

3ventic

@fredley That's one thing PHP shines at..

fredley

@3ventic Yes. But it's still not as good as Django.

3ventic

I like the syntax of C# and C++ :(

user58869

@3ventic you can use mono for asp.net if you dont want to install a windows server

Unionhawk

14:15

I agree. The CPS department asked us "If you'd retake this class, which language would you rather learn? C++ or Java" and so many people said Java >_>

3ventic

@Alex it's not a matter of wanting, openVZ doesn't support it and I can't find anything cheap enough to host Windows..

OrigamiRobot

Arperum

@Lazers That feels like a pretty broad question.

OrigamiRobot

Ladder logic is my favorite language.

Unionhawk

I don't even.

I'm sure I will even at some point though.

But not now.

RedRiderX

14:17

Ladders are dumb.

And bad at programming too.

But I mainly just don't even.

OrigamiRobot

@Unionhawk You probably wont.

Unionhawk

@OrigamiRobot Good point.

BESW

@OrigamiRobot Reminds me of a Tomb of the Cybermen adventure module I want to write, using rooms and doors to construct logic gates.

OrigamiRobot

There's an easier one to understand.

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot Wat.

Sterno

14:20

Nerds.

Yuki

Does there need to be this much whitespace in PHP?

Unionhawk

OLD

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot The other one looked like some XOR's mixed together, this: I don't even.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot output0 = input0 xor input1, output1 = input1 xor input2, output2 = input2 xor input3, output3 = input3?

Yuki

My instructor's example code: `$conn = mysql_connect($dbhost, $dbuser, $dbpass) or die ('Error connecting to mysql');

With like five gajillion spaces between die and ('Error connecting to mysql');

Arperum

14:22

@KevinvanderVelden I think the order is the other way around, but aside from that.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum meh, started with low numbers

RedRiderX

@Yuki I do not believe that to be necessary.

Unionhawk

Yes the five gajillion spaces are required precisely.

No more no less.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Also, don't mix the cases of input/output.

@Unionhawk Lies.

Unionhawk

no not really

fbueckert

14:23

Good morning, Bridge

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OrigamiRobot

@Arperum It's pretty simple. Forward turns on M1. Reverse turns on M2. Each one turns the other off.

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot Looks to much like physics. Brain shut down.

OrigamiRobot

Physics? What kind of physics did you learn?

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot Physics might be the wrong word, one sec, looking it up. (it's about fysica in Dutch)

3ventic

Physics is fun

Arperum

14:28

@OrigamiRobot Correct word, it looks like electricy diagram things.

@3ventic No.

OrigamiRobot

@Arperum It is also that.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum I think that word might be more common in belgium, I had to look it up xp

@Arperum Yes.

3ventic

My studies are focused on physics and mathematics currently

Arperum

@3ventic Math is fun. Physics is terrible.

3ventic

Physics is mathematics with a reason and less precision

OrigamiRobot

14:29

Math is only fun when it's being applied.

3ventic

Math is more fun when it's just for the sake of math

Arperum

@3ventic I studied Math at the university before switching to Programming, I succeeded in the Math parts, but sucked at the physics part since I hate it so much.

OrigamiRobot

@3ventic Opposite of true.

3ventic

@Arperum I'm probably going to the university to study programming and math

@OrigamiRobot For me it is true

OrigamiRobot

That's fine. You can be wrong if you want.

Yuki

14:31

Math is math. Watching cat gifs for days on end is fun.

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Arperum

On one exam I once got the comment from the prof "The exersizes that were literally in the book you failed, the ones where 80% failed because you really need to know the course, you got flawless..."

fredley

Activists buy $15m of debt for $400k then abolish it, freeing debtors

Yuki

@fredley Does this mean people can buy their own debt for... less than they "paid" for it?

RedRiderX

@Yuki Only for bad debt really.

fredley

@Yuki Theoretically, although this debt is bundled up into a financial 'product', it would be impossible to buy an individual's debt.

Unionhawk

14:34

> If individuals consistently fail to pay bills from credit cards, loans, or medical insurance the bank or lender that issued the funds will eventually cut its losses by selling that debt to a third party.

Yuki

... How is the death of someone whose body was found in a padlocked sports bag considered an accident?

fredley

@Unionhawk That 3rd party can then try and recover the debt to make a profit on it.

@Yuki Because ~~espionage~~ he was trying to be Houdini

Obviously the most logical explanation

RedRiderX

@fredley Crazy Anti-Wall-Street Activists buy over $15 million of American's debts, are you affected?

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

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Woodworking

Proposed Q&A site for professional woodworkers, craftsmen, furniture builders, turners, hobbyists, and anyone interested in creating objects with wood.

Currently in definition.

Yuki

@fredley There's "government cover-up" and then there's "they're not even trying".

GnomeSlice

14:37

Back for a bit

wtf

Unionhawk

Ahoy o/

wat

fredley

@GnomeSlice Bacon doesn't come in cubes, don't be ridiculous

Unionhawk

I can't decide if that's awesome or terrible.

fredley

Rashers or gtfo

Sterno

Bacon should never, ever be cubed

Bacon should be in delicious strips

Unionhawk

14:38

Raise your hand if you have never heard the word "rasher" before in your life.

fredley

@Sterno rashers

Unionhawk

everyone but @fredley I think

Sterno

@fredley BACON

GnomeSlice

@fredley It's Japan

RedRiderX

@Unionhawk You've never heard of rashers?

wow

Kevin van der Velden

14:39

@Unionhawk raises hand. Maybe kalina did as well?

kalina

@KevinvanderVelden I live in England

BESW

I think I first encountered the word in The Boxcar Children.

Unionhawk

No, I haven't. We just call bacon bacon.

Yuki

I have heard of rashers, but I blame that on Harry Potter.

fredley

Kevin van der Velden

14:40

@kalina I'm dutch, nice to meet you

Unionhawk

Strips of bacon is redundant.

Kevin van der Velden

DAMNIT

RedRiderX

@BESW Hah yeah that sounds about right.

fredley

thefreedictionary.com/rasher

Yuki

@BESW Wow, that's some nostalgia right there. I haven't heard about that series since... I was maybe ten years old?

Unionhawk

14:41

I KNOW HOW TO DICTIONARY I'M JUST CALLING YOU WEIRD

fredley

@Unionhawk Rasher is the collective noun for bacons

Unionhawk

30 secs ago, by Unionhawk

I KNOW HOW TO DICTIONARY I'M JUST CALLING YOU WEIRD

BESW

@Yuki The first... 19? were really quite solid. Then Warner passed away and the books got handed over to ghost writers.

kalina

@BESW replyfail

BESW

...and then they started updating the older books because kids can't handle reading about non-contemporaries.

fredley

14:43

@Unionhawk I KNOW HOW TO WEIRD, I'M JUST CALLING YOU DICTIONARY

GnomeSlice

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wh...

BESW

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kalina

@GnomeSlice ca...

@GnomeSlice Gn...

GnomeSlice

LaQuisha Redfern is a bearded lady drag queen who was born on the ballroom floor of an ocean liner, and currently lives in a space station that crash landed in New Zealand

kalina

@GnomeSlice re...?

RedRiderX

14:44

@Unionhawk I'M NOT CALLING YOU WEIRD JUST AMERICAN.

Unionhawk

@KAL stop pinging @GNO

fredley

@RedRiderX I'M CALLING YOU WEIRD, AMERICAN

kalina

NO @UNI I DON'T WANT TO STOP PINGING @GNO

@UNI WHY DON'T YOU STOP PINGING @GNO YOU @BAD PERSON

fredley

@kalina @GNO STOP IT

RedRiderX

@fredley I'M NORTH AMERICAN IT'S LIKE AMERICAN BUT WITH LESS EAGLES

GnomeSlice

14:45

Can you guys not do that thing you are doing

kalina

I JUST HAD A @FRE I AM BLAMING @WIP OR @GNO

Unionhawk

@RedRiderX I'M NOT CALLING YOU WEIRD JUST... canadian? I think?

fredley

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RedRiderX

@Unionhawk Yep.

Unionhawk

Also, I apologize for what I have started.

RedRiderX

14:46

Well.

Mostly.

It's complicated.

kalina

@UNI I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE YELLOW INSTEAD OF @RED

Unionhawk

...

GnomeSlice

> As far as freeware roguelikes go, I don’t think you can do much better than Red Rogue

RedRiderX

...

Unionhawk

Restated: I regret what I have started.

fredley

14:46

@GnomeSlice Getting there

kalina

@GNO YOU'RE NOT, @UNI

YOU ARE @BAD

GnomeSlice

@fredley I just copied the first line of the article. =[

fredley

@Unionhawk Regrarted

RedRiderX

@Unionhawk I REGRET NOTHING!!!

fredley

@RedRiderX REGRART

kalina

14:47

New toys? For me? I promise I won't break them this time!

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GnomeSlice

@fredley Stargretted

Unionhawk

@RedRiderX I REGRET GETTING @KAL STARTED ON THE 3 LETTER PING GAME BECAUSE SHE NEVER STOPS.

kalina

...I'm ready to play!

GnomeSlice

@kalina NSFW

RedRiderX

@fredley I REGART EVERYTHING!!!

kalina

14:47

@GnomeSlice Hardly

I find myself in a bit of a sticky situation

fredley

@kalina Situationally sticky

kalina

A channel full of gamers don't recognise my quotes

I feel so disappointed

GnomeSlice

@kalina It reads like a porno

fbueckert

Aww. Used all my delete votes for the day.

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina sorry, never played WoW

kalina

14:50

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Kevin van der Velden

If you quote a good game I might recognize it :)

GnomeSlice

@kalina Heh

kalina

@KevinvanderVelden By players, revenue, and like 100 different metrics, WoW is the best game ever made

fredley

Serious chat bug

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina yes, the sales department will definitely agree on that :)

RedRiderX

14:51

@kalina That sounds familiar but I don't WOW.

GnomeSlice

@kalina This isn't one of them?

kalina

@GnomeSlice no, that was star baiting

GnomeSlice

Oh, okay.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

> Alberton Live

Sterno

Boring.

GnomeSlice

@Sterno Nope.

Sterno

14:53

@GnomeSlice That was directed at chat in general.

GnomeSlice

@Sterno I'm here, so it's still wrong.

Although I'm leaving shortly

kalina

@fredley no can reproduce, must be user error

@GnomeSlice thank god

Sterno

Then entertain me! Dance, puppet!

kalina

I mean... awwwww

please don't leave

fredley

@kalina I blame you then.

GnomeSlice

14:54

@kalina Why are you so mean to me

kalina

@fredley Works on mine

fredley

@kalina I still blame you

No wait, I blame @Wipqozn

kalina

@GnomeSlice You linked truckers delight to me twice, you signed yourself up for a world of pain for the rest of your life

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice HAH

GnomeSlice

@kalina I only linked it once I'm pretty sure.

kalina

14:54

@GnomeSlice you linked it on Steam and the bridge

that's twice

GnomeSlice

@kalina I did?

kalina

unless my math is wrong

let me double check

GnomeSlice

Oh. Well the song is good.

kalina

nope, definitely twice

I believe my exact words on Steam were "WTF?! Don't ever link anything like this to me again. Ever."

with punctuation to show exactly how serious I was

Unionhawk

Instructions not clear: You are not The Bridge.

Yuki

14:55

I hate how the transition from summer to not-summer in Houston takes place in one day and involves a 15 degree drop in temperature. No time to acclimate.

fbueckert

Sep 22 at 18:28, by fbueckert

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GnomeSlice

Groupees 'Marmalade' PC & Android Bundle

kalina

Time for a new game! My old toys will fight my new toys!

OrigamiRobot

@Yuki Don't whine at me, in NC that transition consists of swinging between the two extremes of summer/winter.

Blem

OrigamiRobot

14:57

Daily.

GnomeSlice

kalina

@Yuki @OrigamiRobot neither of you can talk, in England we get previews of all four seasons in the space of a morning

Sepia Lazers

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Q: Chat user display overflows wrongly

Pretty serious bug in chat today, when the 32nd person joined the room, their avatar appeared in a strange place: I don't think I can continue to use chat until this is fixed.

bug design chat

kalina

HOTTEST DAY OF THE YEAR 2013: Christmas Day

COLDEST DAY OF THE YEAR 2013: Christmas Day

RedRiderX

Ahh what have they done to the Travel button!

fredley

14:58

@kalina England chooses the most inconvienient season for whatever you are wearing right now.

kalina

WETTEST DAY OF THE YEAR 2013: Christmas day

RedRiderX

It's all not like it was before!

OrigamiRobot

England isn't even a real place. It's like Canada or the moon.

kalina

@fredley I know, every time I wear a bikini it snows

I figured it was the universe telling me something

fredley

@kalina Take sunglasses? Rain. Take umbrella? Blinding sunlight. Always.

fbueckert

14:59

At least you guys don't have winter for half the year.

kalina

@fbueckert You shouldn't live so far north

fredley

Take both? Cloudy. Always.

kalina

it's your own fault

RedRiderX

It's ignoring all the theme!

fredley

@fbueckert At least that's predictable.

RedRiderX

14:59

This is literally the worst thing ever!

Yuki

@fredley Wear something light because yesterday was hot? Sleeeeeeeet

OrigamiRobot

imagines @kalina in a bikini during a blizzard

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RedRiderX

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

OrigamiRobot

Nope, not enough fire.

fredley

MeatStare

kalina

14:59

@OrigamiRobot you are perving

fbueckert

@fredley Very predictable; Mother Nature does her damndest to kill you every day.

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