The Bridge

fredley

13:00

The PIN that comes with your card is a hash of the card number. If you change it, only the offset is stored.

A personal identification number (PIN, pronounced "pin"; often erroneously PIN number) is a secret numeric password shared between a user and a system that can be used to authenticate the user to the system. Typically, the user is required to provide a non-confidential user identifier or token (the user ID) and a confidential PIN to gain access to the system. Upon receiving the user ID and PIN, the system looks up the PIN based upon the user ID and compares the looked-up PIN with the received PIN. The user is granted access only when the number entered matches with the number stored in ...

FAE

@BESW Yeah, I don't know if he still speaks it though. I find conlangs really interesting, myself.

BESW

My grandmother used to get a weekly Esperanto newspaper.

And our local native language is something of an unusual case, as it's something like a reconlang.

FAE

What's your local native language?

BESW

Chamorro.

FAE

I did some online Esperanto lessons waaaay back but I've forgotten most of it.

fredley

13:05

@FAE Cornish

BESW

Or Chamoru, depending.

It was a spoken-only language until the Spanish started writing it down. Then it picked up a lot of Spanish influence, was suppressed for some time, and is now being recovered.

FAE

reads wiki article

BESW

But there's a lot of debate about how to do so: how much Spanish should be kept in it (to take out the Spanish is to say that one's grandparents didn't know how to speak their own language, but to leave it in is to embrace the colonization of the language)...

FAE

Wow, only 47k~ speakers.

BESW

...and what alphabet/spellings to use (same as above, but with even more messiness).

FAE

13:07

Understandable. Colonialism makes things so complicated when it comes to culture.

BESW

There are three (and a half) major orthographies currently being advocated.

FAE

And a half? O_o

BESW

Ish.

Guam's "official" orthography uses one primarily, but a few words are borrowed from another.

And one of the orthographies has a subset of advocates who want to capitalize the "h" in the letter "ch" whenever the "c" would be capitalized.

As in, "The CHamoru language."

FAE

Gotcha.

Arperum

@BESW That makes the whole slow split up of Dutch sound simple.

BESW

13:11

The three major orthographies, though, are: a) stick with the traditional Spanish alphabet and spellings; b) use the Spanish alphabet but modify the spellings according to a new-made orthography; and c) use an international phonetic orthography.

The Northern islands, where the language is more alive, don't care too much.

But on Guam, because the language is rapidly dying, the orthography is legislated and debated.

Yuki

Good morning.

BESW

(If you're fluent in the language, "Inarajan" vs "Inalahan" is largely irrelephant--you know what's being said. But if the language isn't alive, orthography becomes much more crucial.)

@Yuki Hi!

Yuki

Y'know, I feel surprisingly good for having had only 3 hours of sleep.

BESW

Hooray?

FAE

@BESW I've always found language regulation like that interesting as, being from America, we don't have that there. I live in the Netherlands now and they do have that type of thing here, like official spellings and such.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to experience your language dying out.

BESW

13:16

@FAE Guam is, technically, America. We're an unincorporated territory of the USA, and only a few decades ago speaking Chamoru was banned in the public schools, including during recess on the playgrounds.

FAE

@BESW True, I forgot that, my apologies. And wow, banned in public schools? Geez.

@Yuki Good afternoon!

BESW

@FAE No worries. I'm used to being told I speak very good English when I go to the mainland.

And yes, my mother remembers the ban from her school days.

RedRiderX

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A: Arqade/Bridge D&D campaign

Currently Interested List AshleyNunn SaintWacko 5pike Yuki Murgatroid99 Arperum Kevin van der Velden Raven Dreamer Possible DMs Krazer

As I am not pro I cannot add my name. :(

BESW

@RedRiderX Add comment asking for name adding?

FAE

What did you grow up speaking in your household?

RedRiderX

13:20

Please make this bit a CW.

@BESW Yeah I guess.

BESW

@FAE English. It's the only language I can really say I'm fluent in.

There's a good bit of Chamoru sprinkled into the local dialect, but only to the point that I can confuse non-locals, not to the point that I could carry on a conversation in the language.

Arperum

@RedRiderX I assume you want in the list? I can fix that.

Yuki

@RedRiderX Done.

Should I make the whole thing CW?

RedRiderX

@Yuki ty

@Yuki Probably no need.

BESW

And yes, @FAE, if we choose to use Fate Accelerated Edition this could get complicated.

Yuki

13:24

@RedRiderX I dunno why, but I had always assumed you had more rep than me.

@BESW I say we should do this.

BESW

[snerk]

RedRiderX

@Yuki I've heard a few people say this now...

Yuki

@RedRiderX It must be the hat.

FAE

@BESW My brain was just like ping ping ping ping.

RedRiderX

I suppose I'm one of the most inactive active users.

BESW

13:27

@RedRiderX I get Mistaken For Mod pretty often over in rpg.se.

RedRiderX

@BESW But at least you can do a bit more if people ask you. :P

Arperum

@RedRiderX Kind of the same here, I just got lucky with a couple answers that got upvoted like crazy.

Yuki

Ugh, someone ask a pokemon-xy question now~

BESW

[shudder] I really need to go block Arqade's background image file.

RedRiderX

@BESW Hah yeah it can be annoying on the wrong screen.

BESW

13:29

It's like a bad florescent light.

Arperum

@Yuki You need something to answer?

LessPop_MoreFizz

Okay BBC, this headline is just flagrantly trolling for clicks.

Yuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz I see what they did there....

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz These 3 Bacon paintings just changed everything about the art market forever

Yuki

@Arperum Yeah, I'm literally two rep away from the bronze pokemon-xy badge.

LessPop_MoreFizz

13:32

@fredley I mean, the article is fine.

BESW

...okay, so that didn't work the way I hoped. Now I can't see any of the white text on the site.

LessPop_MoreFizz

And it's definitely big news.

but that headline was carefully tailored to show up in the 'most e-mailed' list or whatever and get attention.

Yuki

On second thought, trolling for more questions to answer probably isn't the way to go about it.

Arperum

@Yuki Can't help with a question though, don't own it.

BESW

@Yuki Hee, I forgot I had the badger script.

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3ventic

13:34

@BESW Definitely a lot of influence from Finnish in that..

Arperum

@3ventic Do they have construct like äaäa or something? Because Finnish is mostly äa's with other letters coincidentally added here and there.

or that's what I've seen of it.

@Yuki It's two upvotes and not two rep, but I see your point.

Yuki

You'd think that after I made my answer CW, I'd stop getting alerts that people are editing it.

3ventic

@Arperum ä and a and never in the same word unless it's a foreign word

but lots of a, e, i, o, u

Arperum

@3ventic äää then Finnish people and their crazy ää's

3ventic

a bit of ä and ö

BESW

13:39

Psh.

GnomeSlice

66% off Towns (DRM-Free + Steam)

Arperum

@3ventic My clue that I am looking at something finnish is the complete overdose of the letter ä.

BESW

Chamoru has ', å, ñ, ch, and "y" is pronounced roughly "dz."

3ventic

lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilasehdokas

Yuki

@GnomeSlice I have not played that in a looooong time.

BESW

13:40

Oh, and ng.

3ventic

That's a rank in the Finnish army.

RedRiderX

@Yuki Same here.

I don't think I've actually played the full version...

GnomeSlice

I don't think I've ever played it

I suck at games like that

I believe I own it though, from some bundle or something.

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice Hah me too.

TZHX

wasn't there a whole load of furore when that came out of it being completely misleading or something as to the state of the game?

Arperum

13:45

@3ventic What is the translated version?

RedRiderX

@TZHX I think it was the reason Steam Early Access became a thing.

GnomeSlice

I'm pretty sure it was 100% clear it was unfinished

3ventic

@Arperum Aeroplane jet turbine engine assistant mechanic lower officer student candidate (???)

And yes, we like to combine words a lot.

Arperum

@3ventic That's a terrible jobtitle.

3ventic

@Arperum it's a rank, not a job

Arperum

13:54

@3ventic Still terrible. I don't even want to be of the rank whatever candidate

3ventic

@Arperum true

BESW

@Arperum I wouldn't mind being, say, "Puppy tester candidate."

kalina

yawn

RedRiderX

sigh

Yuki

inb4 BORED

fredley

13:56

@kalina *tries to throw skittle into @kalina's gaping mouth*

kalina

my mouth isn't big

fredley

@kalina More challenging

GnomeSlice

It could still be gaping though

Yuki

@fredley 10 points!

Okay. I've just started on learning PHP for a school project. I'm five minutes in and I already hate it.

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