The Bridge

fbueckert

15:00

@pauska Yes, we are. And we don't appreciate newcomers coming here and condescending to us.

Journeyman Geek

@pauska: hence someone mentioning the system was broken on MSO

kalina

@fbueckert @pauska is hardly a "newcomer" to chat, he's just doing what we do when others abuse the flag system

pauska

I'm not saying that it's a great way of doing it, we hate it as much as you do

OrigamiRobot

Someone should add we-know-flags-ping-all-10kers to the room tags

kalina

but still, assuming the most active channel on the network doesn't know how the flag system works is a bit silly

fbueckert

15:00

@kalina Newcomer to the Bridge, is my meaning.

Private Pansy

@kalina I'm quite sure the message would be auto deleted the before it reaches 6 flags

kalina

now shoo, before I go flag all of your abusive crap in the comms room

@PrivatePansy mine definitely reached 6

pauska

@kalina Well, the DMZ did this a week ago and got shocked when someone got banned and 15 high reps came in to the room

Powerlord

@balpha So, is the flags system supposed to show the number of flags or the number of flagged posts?

OrigamiRobot

@JasonBerkan shhhhhhhh this is part of an experiment.

pauska

15:01

So no, it's not safe to assume that all the people in a room knows how it works

kalina

@pauska the DMZ isn't one of the most active channels on the network :P

Private Pansy

Mine got to 7, and I'm quite sure it would've deleted the message by then if it was all flags and not counter-flags

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot OK.

fbueckert

@pauska No, but it's not safe to assume we don't know what we're doing.

Which is exactly what you're doing.

pauska

Holy cow, talking to gamers on the internet is serious stuff! I said "are you not aware" with a question mark.

kalina

15:02

I am really disappointed that the 'asshole' comment got flagged though, whoever flagged that should be ashamed of yourself

OrigamiRobot

Not only do we know flags are shown to all 10kers, we have been fussed at for going to other rooms to complain about their flags.

Private Pansy

@pauska We are. Which is why I asked you who you're talking to

Because all of us here are aware

Wipqozn

In fact that's why people abuse flags, since they know it will get people banned out of context.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot And we don't appreciate it when people come in here and do the same to us.

Powerlord

@OrigamiRobot Which room was it last week again?

pauska

15:03

Alright. So you actually wanted to get someone banned, just for the fun of it?

kalina

I knew it should have been me who posted it instead of GnomeSlice

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn Replace people with @GnomeSlice, unfortunately.

kalina

@pauska somebody in here obviously did

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan Nah, it happens to more than just him, he's just the most common target.

fbueckert

@pauska You said, "are you even aware", which implies A) We don't, when we do, and B) that it was invalid, which it wasn't.

Jason Berkan

15:04

True.

fbueckert

And implies condescension in the process. Which, I, for one, do not appreciate.

Journeyman Geek

@Wipqozn or, they see its from here, and accept, cause you guys used to flag a lot ;p

kalina

@fbueckert @pauska @others let's not start an argument about this

Wipqozn

I'm surprised gnomes suspension hasn't been reversed yet. Might be because of his "fuck you" when he was leaving.

Powerlord

Oh right, someone already mentioned The DMZ

Journeyman Geek

15:05

(I usually decline)

kalina

there is no need for a heated discussion on this topic

@Wipqozn I just said this to him on Steam

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I thought's what got him suspended in the first place.

OrigamiRobot

I think @GnomeSlice and everyone who flagged him should be banned for making me refresh my browser to get rid of the ghost flags.

kalina

it's hard to get something like that reversed when he gets flagged for something that legitimately is flag worthy

OrigamiRobot

I DEMAND JUSTICE!

Powerlord

15:05

@pauska By the way, you realize that a large number of the "high rep users" who went to the DMZ are from here, right?

Private Pansy

@fbueckert I believe that is. It was his reaction to a flag on an older message, which was invalidated, that ironically got him flagged and banned

Wipqozn

No, he did suspened for the first flag.

kalina

he got a 60 minute ban though so I think they were both approved

Wipqozn

The second message increased it to 60.

fbueckert

@PrivatePansy If I had seen that, I would've flagged it, too.

kalina

15:07

if the first one didn't get approved, it would still be starred

fbueckert

If I had seen the flag, I'd've approved it, too.

Powerlord

@kalina Unless a room owner cleared the stars on it.

kalina

@fbueckert it was you who flagged his first message!

you are EVIL!

fbueckert

@kalina Don't be silly. I have him ignored.

Wipqozn

@kalina Nah, someone could have just deleted the message to stop it being flagged again.

kalina

15:07

you're still evil

Wipqozn

That's not what happened though, he got suspended.

kalina

if you have somebody on ignore you really shouldn't action their flags, since you're missing the context

Private Pansy

@Wipqozn Looking through the transcript, I think you're right there

fbueckert

@kalina With great responsibility comes great abuse.

@kalina If it's swearing offensive, yeah, I'll action that.

kalina

@fbueckert I don't deny the second thing was flag worthy at all

I am really disappointed the asshole comment got flagged though

fbueckert

15:09

@kalina First one was, too.

kalina

@fbueckert nope

The only way you can come to that conclusion is missing the context

fbueckert

@kalina We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, then.

That's offensive.

kalina

Hence: If you have somebody on ignore and can't see the context, don't action flags against them

I guess you missed the conversation before hand

fbueckert

1 min ago, by fbueckert

@kalina If it's swearing offensive, yeah, I'll action that.

kalina

In fact, screw it, if you're going to be like that, prepare for everything you ever do that I find offensive to get flagged

Every "your face" is going to get flagged

Every "your mum" is going to get flagged

Every anti French comment is going to get flagged

Jason Berkan

15:10

The first comment was out of context flag bait. Ending up on starred list didn't help, since everything there is out of context.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina What if he says "your mom"

Powerlord

@kalina I suppose you find Bacon offensive. :(

fbueckert

@kalina I think you're overreacting.

2

kalina

If you're going to damage the bridge by flagging anything GnomeSlice says that you find offensive then expect the same in return

@fbueckert I'm not overreacting, the behave you've just stated you apply is hypocritical

badp

guys, what was the name of that sketch that went like

"who batted in first place?" "what did?" "batted in the first place" "who did!" etc.

Powerlord

15:12

@badp Who's On First

OrigamiRobot

@badp Who's on first.

fbueckert

@kalina I'm not seeing how calling anyone an asshole is acceptable conversational material.

Wipqozn

►

OrigamiRobot

What's on second

kalina

@fbueckert Read the surrounding context and get it then.

fbueckert

15:13

I'd approved it if anyone said it.

Powerlord

Whoops, no, it was Abbot and Costello.

kalina

@fbueckert Like I said, I'm going to apply your anti-fun rules to flagging from now on, and the first time you complain about the number of flags being raised hell will unleash in your direction

fbueckert

@kalina Ok, and? It's still not acceptable.

It's not about anti-fun. It never has been. I don't see how the context made it any more acceptable.

badp

@Wipqozn danke

Wipqozn

@badp You're welcome.

kalina

15:15

@fbueckert I've never seen you complain when anybody else in the room has done it, which means double standards in addition to hypocrisy

Powerlord

Clearly I need to use bacon as a swear word.

kalina

@Powerlord this is not constructive

Powerlord

@kalina Well, bacon that then!

kalina

@Powerlord bacon bacon BACON

Private Pansy

@Powerlord Your face is full of bacon

fbueckert

15:17

@PrivatePansy Which is a supreme state of bliss.

OrigamiRobot

3

Bacon can be constructive.

Wipqozn

I hate bacon.

Jason Berkan

I am so building a bacon house to eat.

Powerlord

It can also be destructive

OrigamiRobot

Bacon-47

Powerlord

15:19

I was searching for a gun that shoots bacon, but when I saw a gun made out of bacon, I had to link it.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I don't think you're allowed to be in the Bridge anymore.

3

Jason Berkan

Now we just need a bacon pony picture and The Bridge will implode.

FEichinger

@kalina :(

@kalina :( :(

Private Pansy

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Fluttershy

15:28

Is the drama over? Can @Sterno come back now?

Powerlord

@Fluttershy The answer depends on if Sterno will take part in the sacred Bacorineo ceremony.

I don't know why, but I just suddenly pictured someone attempting to exercise a demon instead of exorcise it.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Yes.

Ben Brocka

Did I miss drama?

did @Sterno miss drama? He won't like that

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Seems to always happen when he's gone.

Trent Hawkins

Theory: you never see @Sterno and drama in the same place - @Sterno is drama

Ben Brocka

15:34

dun dun dunnnnn

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka Yes. Gnomeslice got suspended, and then drama happened.

OrigamiRobot

When @Sterno dies, he will have "I AM DRAMA" on his tombstone. And he will tell different people he wants different fonts. That way he gets drama over his drama.

Sconibulus

@Wipqozn aww man, no more @gnomeslice again?

how will I know about the myriad indie games?

Wipqozn

@Sconibulus He'll be back soon.

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In the inventory you can buy only 9 masks but there is more than 50 masks available. So can you have all the masks ? Or is it limited to only one page ?

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OrigamiRobot

15:38

@Sconibulus He'd be happy to spam you on steam

Sconibulus

I can't steam at work though

Fluttershy

Decision time, Bridge! I am done with The Last of Us. What next? Beyond: Two Souls? Heavy Rain? Grand Theft Auto V? Something else? The choices are yours, and yours alone!

But seriously... Someone help me decide.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Europa Universalis IV.

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Legend of Dragoon

@Fluttershy Megaman Legends 1/2

fbueckert

@Fluttershy I've heard bad things about Beyond.

I will second the Legend of Dragoon suggestion, though.

Ben Brocka

15:41

@OrigamiRobot comic sans on his tombstone

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka Papyrus

GnomeSlice

Oct 14 at 22:26, by Michael Dunfield

If you guys could all stop waiting until I can't edit or delete things before flagging them, that would be great, thanks.

FAE

@fbueckert Eh, it's divisive, but so was Heavy Rain.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Outer Wilds

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy One of the Onimusha games.

@Fluttershy Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

FAE

15:43

@OrigamiRobot He could manage that one actually, I sent him the first game last year.

OrigamiRobot

@FAE He's a lucky manpony

Private Pansy

@OrigamiRobot manpony

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice The edit button isn't meant to be a "get out of flag free card".

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot That made me think of this:

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn If someone really had an issue with my asshole comment, they should have said so

Not waited for me to not be able to edit it.

FAE

15:45

@GnomeSlice That defeats the purpose of flagging.

GnomeSlice

@JasonBerkan 403

FEichinger

@JasonBerkan ∞

GnomeSlice

Whatever.

OrigamiRobot

I think about Image not found all the time

GnomeSlice

Whoever flagged that message either didn't read the context, or was trying to get me banned for fun.

Jason Berkan

15:46

Works for me. It's a MADPONY from FF1.

Private Pansy

@JasonBerkan You're probably logged into whatever site that is

FAE

@JasonBerkan the site may not allow hotlinking, try uploading it instead

Private Pansy

It's 403 forbidden for the rest of us

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot I would second and third this.

Sterno

Gnomeslice calling me an asshole was 100% not offensive.

Wipqozn

15:47

@GnomeSlice I agree, so telling us to wait to flag doesn't make any sense. Whoever did it ither didn't see the context (meaning it was past the edit window) or they were just trying to get you banned, in which case they would make sure to wait.

Jason Berkan

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn I don't want to talk about it any more.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Maybe they meant to star it and flagged by accident.

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice Then why start with it again every time you get suspended?

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Chrono Trigger

GnomeSlice

15:49

@FEichinger I didn't. I didn't post anything that required a response.

Wipqozn

6 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

Oct 14 at 22:26, by Michael Dunfield

If you guys could all stop waiting until I can't edit or delete things before flagging them, that would be great, thanks.

@FEichinger TOO SLOW

FEichinger

@Wipqozn You ninja turtle, you!

Wipqozn

When you're slower than a turtle you know you're slow.

3

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn I don't see where I asked for a reply here

FEichinger

@Wipqozn No! The turtle was, like, really fast and all!

OrigamiRobot

15:50

and @Wipqozn is alot of turtle

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I'm not going to bother explaining it to you, because it shouldn't need to be explained.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Good. Thanks.

RedRiderX

Ima high society type now.

2

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Please tell me he said "I didn't say that" or something to that effect.

Sterno

The Bridge has some level 70 flag trolls.

FEichinger

15:52

1 min ago, by GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn I don't see where I asked for a reply here

GnomeSlice

Wow

Really

@OrigamiRobot Check the transcript yourself.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger Close enough

GnomeSlice

ooooo he said 'fuck'

better flag

FAE

What is going on in here? x_X

FEichinger

Oh for heaven's sake, @GnomeSlice.

RedRiderX

15:53

CC: @AshleyNunn

GnomeSlice

are you kidding me

Sterno

This is getting ridiculous. @GnomeSlice stop baiting the flag troll

Flag troll, stop being a douche.

GnomeSlice

Are you. Fucking. Kidding me.

ken.ganong

I feel like I walked into a pretty messy bridge.

GnomeSlice

@Sterno I'm not baiting anybody...

fbueckert

15:55

And can we all stop with the passive aggressive starring, too?

GnomeSlice

I'm getting annoyed, but I'm not baiting anybody.

fbueckert

I find that more annoying.

Sterno

@GnomeSlice yes you are. You keep swearing when your swearing is getting flagged

GnomeSlice

@Sterno I'm getting annoyed. That's what I do.

FAE

Can we remember that one of the primary rules of chat is be nice?

> Do I have to be nice?

Yes. We expect community members to treat each other with respect … even when they don't deserve it.

FEichinger

15:56

@GnomeSlice Then take a step back and calm down.

GnomeSlice

@FAE Nobody is ever nice.

@FEichinger Good idea.

FEichinger

You know what gets you flagged - no matter if that flag is valid or not - so stop doing that.

If you keep going on about it - in an increasingly hostile manner - you're just making it worse.

For everyone involved, for that matter.

FAE

Note the "even when they don't deserve it". Take the high road, guys, c'mon.

Wipqozn

OOO WE HAVE CAKE, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

I'm going to have some chocolate cake and milk.

Delicious, delicious milk.

OrigamiRobot

One of the only times I like milk is if it has cornbread in it

ken.ganong

16:01

I found a Wizardspike for my Diablo sorcerer. That is two very useful uniques in two days. Woo!

Fluttershy

Today is made of bleh.

Also, holy hell that's a lot of pings. And I'm not going to play any of the suggested games! My backlog is too long to add more to it.

Wipqozn

24 mins ago, by Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Europa Universalis IV.

fbueckert

@Fluttershy And this is why we don't do recommendations.

:P

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Milk is delicious.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Indeed. Very much so.

OrigamiRobot

16:09

@Wipqozn Yes, but it makes you mouth too slimy.

Fluttershy

@fbueckert I gave you people a list. :P

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Outer Wilds

I still have a question that needs answering

fbueckert

@Fluttershy List was suboptimal. We made it better.

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy Which included "something else"

> Decision time, Bridge! I am done with The Last of Us. What next? Beyond: Two Souls? Heavy Rain? Grand Theft Auto V? Something else? The choices are yours, and yours alone!

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Ooh! Kairosoft released another free game in Japan.

OrigamiRobot

16:11

I gave you lots of somethings else.

fbueckert

play.google.com/store/apps/…

Looks to be something like Cafeteria Nipponica.

kalina

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Exactly!

This is your fault @Fluttershy! Don't blame us for just following your instructions.

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot That is a misquote! I never put "something else" in bold or italics!

kalina

@Fluttershy payday 2

OrigamiRobot

16:13

@Fluttershy Emphasis mine.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Outer Wilds is on indefinite hiatus.

@kalina No can do.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Why, you said you liked it

Wipqozn

uuugh, I'm going to need to give up 3 provinces.

kalina

@Fluttershy now you can! Set yourself up a second steam account, share your games, make a new character just to play with me

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice I did. But I also have a massive backlog of games that I have yet to finish.

GnomeSlice

16:14

@Fluttershy so? It shouldn't take you too long to find everything

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy I will think less of you if you play GTAV

Wipqozn

and I'll think less of you if you don't play Europa Universalis IV.

You know what portugal? Fine FINE

I'll give you those provinces

But you're now on the list.

fbueckert

Contrary to these two, I will NOT think less of you for not playing the same games as I do.

OrigamiRobot

Is this a city/empire building game?

FAE

@OrigamiRobot Why?

OrigamiRobot

16:16

@Wipqozn GTA is a terrible series and I hate it.

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot GTA V it is!

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot It is?

Coronus

@GnomeSlice Yes.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot IT's a historic grand strategy game.

GnomeSlice

@Coronus In what regard?

OrigamiRobot

16:17

I don't know what those words mean in that combination.

Wipqozn

IT's also a sandbox game.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot large scale strategy game set in historic times

Presumably, anyway.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I need more time to play games.

I task you with the responsibility of finding more time for me.

Wipqozn

Basically you play as any nation between 1444 and 18-something-or-other, and you just do what you want.

@fbueckert Clone yourself.

Also, quit your job and force @TrentHawkins to work two jobs.

FAE

@OrigamiRobot It's like Jochem's favorite game series to play ever, pretty much.

OrigamiRobot

16:19

@FAE I think less of him now.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot I'm not sure why you pinged me with this.

@OrigamiRobot I can only assume you edited the wrong message.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I didn't press up enough.

FAE

@OrigamiRobot k

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Q: School firewall. Got past it when using a bat file found here to log in to MineCraft. More info inside

No, this school won't send IT people or anything. I'll take the risk. Anyways, I've found a bat file to let me log into MineCraft without the school firewall blocking it on this website. "java -Dhttp.proxyHost=proxyURL -Dhttp.proxyPort=proxyPORT -Dhttps.proxyHost=proxyURL -Dhttps.proxyPort=proxyP...

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Wipqozn

> And for the "School is for work" army, does it matter if I'm playing some game in my break?

It's cute that he used the word "army".

OrigamiRobot

16:22

Someone give me a 500 rep bounty so I can delete that.

Wipqozn

Oh wow, you're at 19k.

I didn't even notice.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot I have nearly 500 rep in unattributed bounties due to my account deletion, and I'm not even going to get them reattached to my account

500 rep is throwaway rep

fbueckert

@kalina Technically, all rep is throwaway rep.

kalina

well yes

GnomeSlice

@kalina Not for me.

All rep is precious.

kalina

16:25

@GnomeSlice please stop getting yourself flagged

Jason Berkan

That's two edits in a row with a subject-verb agreement problem. What do schools teach kids today?

Sterno

@kalina That seems unrelated.

FAE

@JasonBerkan Try the number of questions we have that start with "How to X"

kalina

@Sterno it is completely unrelated

it's just a continuation of a conversation I was having with him earlier

Jason Berkan

@FAE I know. I gave up trying to fix all of those.

FAE

16:26

@JasonBerkan I still try to fix them as they come in.

kalina

IS IT HOME TIME YET?

OrigamiRobot

@kalina Again?

FEichinger

@kalina NO.

kalina

@FEichinger IT IS NEARLY

TWO AND A HALF MINUTES

I am going to slow walk towards the door

It will be time by the time I get there

BYE

OrigamiRobot

@kalina hometi.me

FEichinger

16:28

@kalina BUT NOT YET!

Jason Berkan

@FAE 3,102 to go.

Sterno

Ahhh, karma. Man sets himself on fire trying to light a burning cross

FAE

@JasonBerkan Why'd you count, man, why you gotta be that way.

Jason Berkan

@FAE I'm a programmer. It's in my blood to know exact things exactly.

fbueckert

If people are going on an unacceptable question deletion spree, this one needs some murdering.

GnomeSlice

16:37

New game bundle for iOS

First ever, in fact.

►

Sterno

Have you played any of those?

GnomeSlice

@Sterno I've played Sentinel 2, which is excellent.

Sentinel 3 has good reviews too.

Other than that, no.

> Thumb Arcade iPhone Game Bundle is ten games, multiple award winners and featured titles, at 79% off. A retail value of $23.90, but it is on sale for just $5!

Sterno

I'm always on the lookout for good iOS games but there is just so much crap out there.

GnomeSlice

@Sterno I have like 30 GB of games on my ipod. Let me know if you're in the market for anything in particular.

Sterno

Can someone describe to me what Pokemon XY gameplay is like?

(I have never played a Pokemon game)

Fluttershy

16:44

@Sterno Turn-based RPG? I haven't really played one since Pokemon Yellow. x_x

Sterno

I've played a lot of turn-based RPGs. I'm assuming this differs significantly from, say, Final Fantasy though

Wipqozn

@Sterno You go around shoving animals into small balls and forcing them to fight for you.

Sterno

Is there a story? Progression? Or is it basically just a lot of 1 on 1 matches?

GnomeSlice

I shouldn't have bought that

gah

gotta stop spending

Wipqozn

Pokemon games technically have a story, but it's usually not very good.

@GnomeSlice You say this a lot.

GnomeSlice

16:45

@Wipqozn Yeah, I know.

Wipqozn

You should make up a seperate bank ccount for spending or something, and only put so much money in it per month.

GnomeSlice

Yeah.

That would be a good idea.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice I didn't realize iOS supported bundle like things

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka They don't. I wonder how they're doing it.

iTunes doesn't let you generate gift codes en-masse

New Freedom Friday post on Desura

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I've having a very hard time with the math, and it doesn't look like anyone has made a calculator yet, so is it possible to explain the max height on max health before a fatal fall occurs with a full set of diamond Protection IV armor? As an extra question, can you explain how adding Reafther fa...

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