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18:00
That was only in reference to the page controls that my numpad has.
("the numpad is for numbers" in the middle of a conversation about movement controls placed on the numpad is kinda ambiguous, though :P )
@FEichinger Yeah. Confused the hell out of me.
@FEichinger It was directly after a comment to you.
But it was right after he mentioned page controls.
If I had been switching back to talking to @fbueckert, I should have directed it at him.
Because doing it any other way wouldn't make sense.
Anyway, my problem with the numpad in Elona is that I can't grok using my right hand for movement in any game
not to mention the fact that it means I have only my left hand for the hundreds of other keys I'd need to use
18:04
@OrigamiRobot This plagues me whenever I play a lot of games, not wholly, but often enough.
I don't even think it's the fewer buttons that make me like the gamepad more. It's the fact that I am using my thumbs
For whatever reason, I have more spacial awareness with my thumbs.
@OrigamiRobot Well you can move your thumb without the rest of your hand, so I assume that makes it easier to control.
I'm used to playing ADOM (although, haven't played in years), so the numpad as movement is easily ingrained in muscle memory.
Same here, except with Crawl
I grew up playing Warcraft and Diablo.
18:08
You know you're a geek when you talk about "muscle memory" in relation to playing video games.
@Sterno Or use the word "grok"
And I don't know how to type properly.
So when I have to use the full range of keys to play a game, it gets frustrating quickly.
Real roguelike players use hjklyubn.
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Naw, numpad OP
@StrixVaria KSP players use that for docking, too.
18:09
besides, those are all used for other things!
Yay for 3D controls with a 2D view!
well... not all, but most
Gets bloody complicated trying to line up everything.
@Sconibulus Most roguelikes I've seen honor those as movement in addition to the numpad.
If I held my keyboard like a gamepad, I could use the numpad like nobody's business.
But that's silly.
18:10
@strixvaria late to the party but grats on the job offer from Google man.
@Shiester Thanks!
@Shiester Oooh, yes, grats! I didn't see the star list
With all that extra money you'll be getting you can afford to buy us all something.
@StrixVaria I remember Jump, Kick, Loot, and Name
18:11
I want a pretty pink pair of underwear.
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I think it's an option to use them as a numpad though, I just have it disabled
@Sconibulus Were those hkln or HKLN?
h,k,l,n
I've seen games use the capital version of those letters for other things while lowercase is movement.
I figure I can use the real numpad
18:13
colored scott pilgrim!
why does she only have one eye?
> Thank you so much for your purchase for WELCOME TO NIGHT VALE live at Geeksboro Coffeehouse Cinema!
@OrigamiRobot thought you said VALVE for a second there. got me excited.
@Shiester because of cool emo hair that's why
@Shiester I don't care bout no Valve.
18:14
@StrixVaria I remember Nethack used Ctrl-d for kick if you turned numpad off.
Oh god that reminds me yesterday when I was driving home I saw this little back kid run outside and point his fingers at me and make shooting gestures. I slammed on my brakes, pulled the shotgun up from the back seat and waved it around, not pointing at him, the kid took off running behind his house.
I love living in backwoods 'murrica sometimes. Feels gr8 m8.
@Shiester How does anything that just happened in here remind you of that?
Edgeville. Because I was being incredibly edgy.
Scaring little kids with guns? So edgy...
@MichaelDunfield would like to check it out, but I don't use desura
@Shiester The service is free.
@MichaelDunfield so is steam.
Or you could at least vote for it on Steam Greenlight.
@Shiester Correct. Not sure how it's relevant though.
I don't drink pepsi only coke m8.
but I will give a greenlight vote for it
@Shiester Desura and Steam are not really the same, that's like comparing apples and oranges.
@MichaelDunfield but apples and oranges are both fruit.
Also many developers provide steam keys to people who get their games on Desura if the game makes it to Steam.
But... but brand loyalty.
18:23
@Shiester Is @Gnome arguing for desura again?
Also, new Freedom Friday post from Desura. Four more free games.
I think they were free to begin with, but it's nice of them to promote them.
@fbueckert yes he's being mean and I feel bullied and harassed on the internets mods pls ban
@Shiester Silly @Gnome.
How come humblebundle don't let you buy multiple packages at once to give out later?
@fbueckert I'm trying to convince him that ignoring a game he said he was interested in because it's not on Steam is silly.
18:25
The thing I like about Desura is that every game I've ever bought there (all 2!) gave me Steam keys so that I didn't actually need to use Desura.
I mean I totally get that I like having all my games in a portal so they're easy to find.
Also every Desura game gives you a drm free download too so you can just add it to Steam
@Sterno The client is pretty bad, to be honest.
I really like some stuff about the service though.
@Sterno The best part about Desura is that you don't have to use it!
I love the way the game pages are laid out.
And the community features are miles better than those of steam
> tactical fast-paced game
Or at least, a lot more accessible.
18:26
Wondering if contradiction.
@MichaelDunfield But all of my ONE friends are on Steam.
I'm talking about the public stuff. Steam is better for friend interaction, yeah. Desura doesn't even have a chat.
@BenBrocka Got some new stuff for your Xbone account!
But Steam doesn't let you read through user reviews, post comments on a game, etc.
> Xbox One interface a clean slate inspired by Windows 8
18:28
I thought that's what metacritic was for?
@MichaelDunfield I don't pay any attention to those things. People are stupid.
...why does the weather channel app want to know my gender?
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huh... 1d40+2 metal rock... if i wasn't so sure my little girls would complain it's too heavy, I'd buy it.
Because I definitely need a touch interface on my attached to the TV video game console!!!!!1111
@Shiester If you feel like going to a third party, yeah. I haven't written a single metacritic review because I don't want to sign up for it.
Also Desura is designed around indie games, most of them aren't even on Metacritic
18:29
The only time I discover indie games is the link drop in chat or through HumbleBundle
@Shiester HumbleBundle only posts the really high profile indies. Which is great for people who don't really care about indie games.
@MichaelDunfield ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I've said my piece. If you don't want to use Desura, then don't use it.
I don't know. I would rather wait until I can get it on steam personally, mostly because I'm lazy and cant be arsed to remember multiple logins.
@Shiester I think you can sign in via Steam.
Unless they took that out.
18:31
sec, checking.
Yeah, you can sign in via steam.
@Shiester A word to the wise, use the website for everything except downloading games. The client still needs a lot of work.
@TrentHawkins Silly little girl. Just gene-splice someone with Weight-Lifting into her!
@Powerlord I thought it was built on windows 8 to boot?
wtf I signed in with steam and its still telling me I need to register an account
18:34
It might be just so it can find out what games you already own
It appears as though the KSP forums will remain inaccessible through the weekend. :/
Hmm, I may be stupid. Here I was thinking I'd have to wait until I got home to test something in TF2.
Completely forgetting that I don't need a player account to test the system's variables
@BenBrocka Last night in Xillia, I punched God in the face. And then the game didn't end!
@Shiester Man, gnome's such a bully.
I wonder if Franklin realizes that Gnome changed his name.
@RavenDreamer There's the second, "Hey, this is it! This is for all the marbles! moment"
18:41
@RavenDreamer Yeah that part was cool. Though it's incredibly confusing as Milla
If by God, you mean Maxwell.
@RavenDreamer Punching God in the face is only half the difficulty. The other half is surviving when he strikes back!
I don't think they handled the story splitting very well
He's an old white guy sitting in a chair in another dimension. He's "God". :P
18:42
It really could be one story with the plotline splitting 3 times
@Wipqozn He's not just a bully, hes a CYBER bully. That's the worst kind!
@BenBrocka Jude's was pretty coherent.
@RavenDreamer with a beard! The beard is the source of power
I'm filling in the blanks with Milla's story now.
@fbueckert Yeah but Milla's isn't different enough to warrant a compeltely different playthrough
18:43
@BenBrocka Except, you know. Achievements.
There's seriously about 3 noteworthy differences
Gotta get them trophies.
@BenBrocka I'm wondering if there's more content after you finish both sides.
@BenBrocka Gandala / Frost Cave / Post Sea Battle?
@RavenDreamer yeah. But story-wise I don't think it was a useful way to go
@RavenDreamer yeah
18:43
@BenBrocka shrug
I guess what I'm asking is
And an extremely minor difference at the very end
How much more does the game go on after this! ahaha. :/
@RavenDreamer Not all that much longer. Not as long as you'd think given...reasons
And Xillia 2 comes out next year!
Also, how could the characters not realize that the a *spyrix* is was a spirix?
18:44
It feels like the game's going to pull a ToS "look a while new world map!" but it really doesn't
@RavenDreamer asprixsis?
@fbueckert Yeah, there's no good way to highlight the fact that "spyrix" is in the middle of that word.
Probably because it's not a spyrix.
Well, then maybe we should stop talking till I get there.
If you click reply and then upload an image does it actually count as a reply to that person?
18:45
:o
@Shiester Only if you edit in the reply via the arrow, I believe.
@RavenDreamer They don't actually mention anything about that.
The problem with spyrixes is the fact that they caused spirits to die off, due to mana usage.
Have your own messages always had a different colored background than everyone else's?
An aspirxsis is powered by the spirit fossil itself.
@RavenDreamer Yes.
So more like the Spyrites, then.
Which is probably going to be a big deal in the next act.
Celsius down, I'm expecting to see at least Volt, Shadow, or whoever the light summon spirit traditionally is.
@RavenDreamer Yeah.
18:49
@fbueckert @BenBrocka There were a couple weird little issues of things getting left unexplained in this game.
I still can't figure out if Milla knew she was a dupe or not.
@RavenDreamer which did you pick?
@BenBrocka Jude so far.
If that's what you meant.
@fbueckert She didn't know, it's explained pretty clearly in Milla's story
18:50
Like, the whole deal with taking the data from Teepo, and then Teepo losing his personality?
@BenBrocka Good to know.
Except, by now he's totally recovered
@RavenDreamer Yeah. That one threw me, too.
Just had an email come in with the subject "Thanks" and the body "<person's name>.... <another person's name>.... help!!"
So I guess it's implied that Teepo was always an emergant personality the more time it spent with Elize
18:50
@RavenDreamer That was explained... spoilers: Teepo didn't have a personality
But they don't ever mention it again.
Data recorder gone! Personality reverts! Next scene: Teepo's back!
@RavenDreamer that part was weird
It just sorta gradually reverts to the status quo
@fbueckert He takes a slight bit of time to recover but yeah
18:51
Either someone's forgotten their passwords or somebody is in serious danger. Either way, I guess I've got to respond to this. Later all.
@BenBrocka The battle scenes pay zero attention to it.
It's a little jarring.
I don't think they handled the teepo thing very well
I gotta say, though, I find his original personality pretty darn hilarious.
But the thing with Cline's assassination was the worst if you play milla
There's just a subtitle that said "CLINES DEAD BTW BACK TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED TRAGEDY"
18:53
@BenBrocka It actually meshes with Milla's personality at that point rather well.
And they point that out in Fort Gandala.
@fbueckert I'm more disturbed the fascination he has with Milla's.... Bazongas after his personality reset.
Because then it's clearly Elize, right?
@MichaelDunfield Something for a gesture-detecting camera
@MichaelDunfield Oh god there are more of those things?
> Additional Notes: Camera Required: Creative Senz3D Depth and Gesture Camera
Jude's the, "Am I doing the right thing?" character.
18:54
@BenBrocka Apparently...
@RavenDreamer Those skits are hilarious.
Why would you want to play a game with gestures.
@fbueckert Not really, like, there is literally a subtitle that reveals a major plot point
Especially the ones pre-personality wipe.
So Elize has some sort of weird Elektra complex with Milla? I just don't know.
18:54
I'll stick with my gamepad.
@BenBrocka I don't recall that.
There's a parenthetical that says lord cline has died in the Milla version
I don't even know if it shows up if you have subtitles off. His death isn't mentioned outside of sub events ever again in Milla's story
@RavenDreamer The "yoked-out bazongas!" skit was funny.
@MichaelDunfield Interesting name interference with this
@fbueckert There's also one scene (I forget the exact context) where Elize and Teepo see Milla after being a way for a while, and Teepo just starts Motorboating Milla as the dialogue continues.
18:57
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NovargBasically subj. The skills and what I found so far is: Stamina: just run, sprint, cycle, swim, whatever. Just move and it will grow(not that fast though) Shooting: personally I found shooting range to be a really fast way to improve your shooting skills Strength: no idea Stealth: doing mission...

@fbueckert Yeah teepo's great
@RavenDreamer One of the victory skits also has motorboating
@BenBrocka I like most of Alvin's victory skits.
Who unpinned all the pins?
@RavenDreamer I'm making an educated guess as to what that means, as I still haven't looked it up.
Him + Leia and Him + Milla
Not relevant, and yet relevant.
19:00
Rowen is great in that skit
@RavenDreamer Yeah, that one was hilarious, too.
I ended up liking rowen a lot more than I thought I would. Especially in combat
@RavenDreamer I love the one where Milla threatens to fire him.
first time being a spellcaster in Tales wasn't dreadfully boring
@fbueckert Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
19:00
I'm just glad there's no egg principle victory skit
@RavenDreamer Have you seen the ones with Milla and Leia?
@BenBrocka Ahaha. Yes.
@fbueckert Uh. Maybe. Can't remember off hand.
I'm guessing these shouldn't be watched at work
@fbueckert I love when she hits the back of her head with the staff
19:01
@SaintWacko Well, it's verbal only, so shrug
@SaintWacko HARDCORE
@BenBrocka Her... head?
I did'nt think that was her head that got slapped. :P
And yes, memory jogged.
There's one where she hits herself in the back of the head and I think one where she hits milla? in the butt
@BenBrocka That's one of them.
Oh, then we're talking about different ones.
Hehehe. Alright. Thinks to do.
Tata!
...no pun intended!
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Any fans of the Raiden games in here?
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ArianI read that the payment for a delivery is multiplied with the distance. (Subquestion: does it mean the distance traveled or the direct distance?) Since the overhead of un/loading and repairs is constant, it seems to me that longer distances have a better win/cost ratio. On the other hand, there...

19:22
@AshleyNunn Just thought you'd like to know I'm having Sushi for dinner.
@RavenDreamer So it can give you gender specific weather reports.
...the weathers different for men and women, right?
TODAY'S WEATHER WILL BE RAINING TESTOSTERONNNNE AND IT WILL BE EXPLOOOOSION DEGREES THATS IT FOR THE WEATHER NOW HERE'S A SICK GUITAR SOLO
19:41
OHGODBEES!
I wonder if you can make lemonade with only the zest...?
cancelled Toejam & Earl 3 Dreamcast version has been found: http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?47966-Toejam-amp-Earl-3-Dreamcast-Beta&p=701317#post701317
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@Wipqozn Lucky you :(
19:57
@AshleyNunn Just waiting on one guy so I can leave. Then delicious, delicious sushi.
@Wipqozn Stop. You're making me want sushi. And it's pizza night.
@Coronus Sushi > Pizza.
Sushi is one of the best foods.
I would eat it more if I could.
Pizza's just cheaper to feed the whole family once a week.
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@BenBrocka not kidding, as a fan of sick guitar solos, I would listen to that frequency
20:08
@Powerlord I guess that's the same for me then as well.
Valve, why don't you have some sort of indicator in the tf_gamerules entity as to what type of control point map it is?
It's a pain to determine all but koth. >:/
kicks script Why are you lying and telling me cp_granary is an a/d control point map
I haven't played TF2 in a long time...
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Koth, Territory Control, 5CP, and A/D CP all are reported by the game as game type 2
The gamerules entity has an m_bPlayingKoth member, but the other 3 you have to figure out yourself.
I should point out I need to do this because I want to determine what control points are currently active on a map. And to do that I need to know the map type.
Oh, I forgot, Mann Vs. Machine is also game type 2, but it also has a gamerules entity thing
20:44
Y'know, I gotta give SSD credit. I don't often agree with him, but I certainly respect him.
Solid State Drive is pretty respectable
I knew someone would make that joke. :P
@fbueckert What were you actually talking about?
@StrixVaria Comment thread here:
@fbueckert You're saying that a "there is no official answer" answer is useless because it's impossible to prove a negative, but doesn't that make it equally impossible to use as justification for casting a close vote? — SevenSidedDie 25 mins ago
@fbueckert I was trying to think of users with that abbreviation. Forgot about him.
20:55
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case nelsonIn GTA V I've only been able to find health kits spawning in the world, are there places where armor spawns as in the previous games?

21:10
Tonight is just a disaster
I'm just going to end it before I burn down my house or something
@kalina What happened?
Behold! Behold it's abhorrent beauty!
Eugh
I went to the shop and locked out my back card
Followed by slipping on tree way downstairs
Resulting in what I think is some form of damage to my foot
Since I now experience extreme pain when putting pressure on it
@kalina Ouch :(
@kalina Oh my.
21:13
back is obviously meant to say bank
@kalina I figured :P
Further more the random dude at my bank couldn't understand me
So instead of fixing my card
He cancelled it
So now i have to leave my field to get a new one sorted at some point soon
So meh
Nn
HI PEOPLES
@spugsley Hello.
@StrixVaria WOW! CONGRATS ON THE JOB OFFER
21:19
@spugsley Thanks!
@StrixVaria you gonna take it? :O
@spugsley lol yes
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
Their offer blew me away.
21:19
Nah he's gonna get a job at Yahoo
Where I work now has almost no benefits.
Google has more benefits than I was able to remember when the recruiter listed them off.
Google is like the king of benefits
Ian always liked the idea of working there but Microsoft treats him pretty damn good
Like one of them, for example, is that they have masseuses on staff, so if you want a massage just go to the place.
@StrixVaria ....fucking what
awesome
That might be in CA only.
21:20
lol
But that's still nuts.
I know you can bring dogs to work at Google
I watched a show about them at some point
For me one huge deal is free breakfast and lunch every day
@StrixVaria :O
that is amazing
I'm like dying over here.
21:23
do you have to move or anything?
@spugsley The commute is going to be long, but I live really close to a train station already.
I figure I'll just play Pokemon X/Y on the train for the first few months and then I'll figure it out from there.
haha :)
Ian says congrats too :D
Thanks!
@StrixVaria now we must war
@IanPugsley I'm still cool with Microsoft.
One of the biggest downsides is that I won't have a Windows machine at work any more.
21:26
@StrixVaria what will your job be?
@StrixVaria there's a ridiculous level of brand loyalty at big tech companies
@IanPugsley lol u dum
I think it's a generational thing though, most of the younger folks here don't care one way or the other
@Sterno Supporting the ads API for devs trying to use it, writing client libraries, example code, etc.
Cool stuff.
21:27
Definitely more interesting than what I'm doing now.
@StrixVaria O_O
I want free food.
@StrixVaria congratz!!
@Coronus Thanks!
21:45
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Dang. Monster Hunter 4 sold more than 1.7 million copies in the first week.
Although I bet it's not actually '8-bit'
@MichaelDunfield So it's a fake?
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Who knows. I just know that people tend to abuse the label '8-bit' for anything even remotely pixelated.
It certainly looks the part though, maybe it actually is
22:25
@MichaelDunfield Augh why do people never say "16 bit"
@BenBrocka ^
@MichaelDunfield far too many colors for 8 bit (you get 2 bits of color per sprite, 4 colors, 1 usually transparent)
@BenBrocka 'Cause that's one extra syllable?
the retro city rampage dev actually had a great video abotu making REAL 8 bit games
@BenBrocka Nobody loves the Genesis.
22:27
@Coronus I do...
@BenBrocka Why be just "retro" with 16-bit when you can claim super-retro with 8-bit?
@Coronus Most folks I know don't but that's because they like their Mega Drives.
@Coronus lots of people love SNES
I even still have a SEGA Nomad somewhere
well, my dad does
that's the portable Genesis
I can't wait for this
hurry up and finish it already
I backed it and everything
@GraceNote Go all the retro with text-based games!
22:42
I could go for some DikuMUD. No, wait. Elona+ currently has a hold on my soul.
@BenBrocka you're streaming
and now you're not
Yeah I hit the stupid key combo. Just need to unlearn the muscle memory of the shortcut that conflicted with that

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