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15:00
And to be fair, I don't think "What is the population of the city the game is set in?" is "beyond the context of the story and its material"
@SaintWacko Game.Earn(9999999999999999);
bleh
@Sterno I agree.
I'm getting lunch first.
@fredley ...
@SaintWacko Honestly, all you're doing otherwise is waiting.
I don't think it's a useful question, but it is within the scope of the site I'd say.
@Sterno In the context of, "I want to murder the entire city. How many people are there?", yeah, it can be allowed. In fact, I'd happily support it in that fashion.
15:01
Mostly because the answer is going to be, "Good luck with that. It won't happen, because more people will keep spawning."
@FBUECKERT SUPPORTS MURDER: DATA ACCEPTED
My favorite is the "characters on a standard english keyboard" requirement
@BenBrocka how ugly is this
@BenBrocka English (US), don't forget
@SaintWacko Of course. Isn't that one of the primary duties of a Marshal?
you don't have a £ do you?
15:03
£ doesn't exist
I wonder if they know people with any keyboard can use alt codes
@BenBrocka hAHA
I set my password to 8 bullet points
7
so it looks the same regardless of where I type it
@kalina I do! Oh wait, you mean on the keyboard?
@kalina ••••••••
@fredley That's just bull.
15:04
@fredley silly web developer, get back under a rock
Yeah & stay there, too!
@Powerlord +1
@BenBrocka Depends. I actually haven't figured out how to input alt codes on this keyboard, which is no end of confusion and frustration to me.
@Powerlord Well played
yessss, boomerang get!
15:05
@GraceNote What's special about your keyboard?
@kalina Web Devs > Whatever the hell you are
@Wipqozn I hope you're not playing Wind Waker HD
@Wipqozn Where?
@Powerlord Oracle of Seasons. And why are yoiu hoping I'm not playing Wind Waker HD?
15:06
@GraceNote You have to use the stupid fail filled numpad
My university CS password could not contain any dictionary word. The problem was that they included all dictionary words, including a, I and so on.
@Wipqozn Because that'd mean you were st... smart enough to buy a Wii U
I could'nt figure them out either until I learned that
@Powerlord We already bought one.
@BenBrocka Well, yes, that's how it always has to be done, innit?
15:06
Specifically for Monster Hunter.
@JasonBerkan hahaha
@Powerlord I've put over 450 hours into my WiiU, so I've got my moneys worth.
err, into monster hunter
I've put more than that int my wiiu
pikmin 3 and mario
Problem is, perhaps because it's a wireless keyboard attached to a laptop, it doesn't really like the numpad enough to actually allow alt codes to work.
also your mom, oh buurrrn
@GraceNote One of tons of reasons it should juse use "numbers" not "the numpad keys"
15:08
@Wipqozn After playing the original New Super Mario Bros. and realizing that it was nowhere near as good as the earlier 2D mario games, I just skipped New Super Mario Bros. Wii, 2, and U
For that matter, Super Mario Bros. 3D Land just... doesn't seem right after playing Galaxy 1 and 2.
@fredley negative
@kalina positive
@fredley negative
I am the greatest being in the world, thus you can't be better than me
Neutral.
@3ventic payday 2 tonight?
in ~90 minutes?
15:10
@kalina You're in to nuclear bondage?! :O
@kalina My life was fine 'till you had to come along and wreck it
with me?
and perhaps others?
@kalina Sure, ping me when you're starting
@fredley will you please just shut your face for 10 seconds?
@kalina You cry about everything, but can't decide what you want
15:10
@fredley I can't say the next line, I'm so guilty of it
@kalina This is true
also with the number of crybabies in this channel I don't think it's a good idea for us to exhibit signs of having fun
@kalina
especially since they like you, so it will only be me that gets banned again
Who wouldn't like a pork chop?
15:12
he's a minecraft player
there's a whole list of reasons why you wouldn't
primarily being: he's a minecraft player
@kalina This site will primarily be about Minecraft in 2 weeks
@fredley "primarily" != having the most questions asked
especially since being the #1 tag is only 7% of our total questions
@kalina especially not when many of us have ignored many/most of the top tags
you know, I've never ignored a tag
It is bliss
15:15
I should put minecraft on ignore
I ignored in the past.
Ignorance (of tags) is bliss
since I'm never going to play it
@kalina 7% is alot
@kalina You're too scared
@fredley er, right
15:16
I've ignored one tag and you can't guess it.
@kalina You'd enjoy it too much
I've ignored all of the top 5 tags
@fredley I wouldn't
For that matter, even now I have an ignore on and on SO
15:16
@kalina Would
@kalina That would be too obvious
@fredley I really wouldn't
:11316877 premature anything is always awful
@kalina Would
@fredley I will never play Minecraft
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@kalina Same here, but also add Terraria to that.
15:18
what the hell is terraria
It's a 2D adventure sandbox
It's a ton of fun
Terraria is an action-adventure/RPG indie game, released by independent game studio Re-Logic, available via Steam, Xbox Live, PlayStation Network, Android and iOS. The game features exploration, crafting, construction, and combat with a variety of creatures in a randomly generated 2-D world. Released for PCs on May 16, 2011, the game is estimated to have sold about 50,000 copies during its first day of release, with over 17,000 players online at the same time during the first day's peak. 200,000 copies of the game were sold, making it the top-selling game on Steam for the week, ahead ...
@kalina Minecraft with less dimensions
It's basically the 2D version of Minecraft
great
I'm never playing any game that @fredley played first
15:19
That was true when it first came out, now it has a much bigger focus on adventure and combat while minecraft has a bigger focus on building..
It's really not, it's just similar to minecraft, in no way is it the same game.
Also, why am I the only person other than @Shiester who thinks Bacon is a good bargaining tool?
because you're strange
Too bad Terraria is an XNA game though
@kalina I played PayDay 2 before you, but didn't like it.
15:20
@fredley proof required
@kalina Proof is it's a terrible game
@3ventic Yeah, it makes it a very different game
You know, the Steam family sharing thing would be great if I didn't play so much TF2.
@kalina I intend to hold you to this. Next game you're excited about, I will beat you to it.
I could share all the games I have including the ones I hate.
15:20
@fredley wrong, I checked on Steam, you're not on the list of people who play it
@Powerlord TF2 is free-to-play, make another account?
@kalina Steam privacy settings
@fredley I will never tell you games I want to play before I play them
@3ventic Yes, because I should clearly toss out the 4000 hours I've clocked in it.
@fredley yes, I have people on my list with privacy settings like mine, they still show up in the list of people who play it
therefore you're lying to me
15:21
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A: Can I withdraw my Battle.Net account Balance into Paypal?

user55624This sucks. As usual it's all about Blizzard making money. I have way too much money in my account in an attempt to purchase one of the items at auction house. I'm calling credit card company to cancel these charges.

dupe of
Besides which, I've used backpack expanders on my main account.
@Powerlord I didn't know there's progress to be made in it.. but details.
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Q: What are the ways to cash out my earnings in the auction house?

jmfsgI read that Blizzard allows to cash out the earnings from the auction house, instead of just allowing you to fund your Battle.net wallet with them (or get in-game gold). I'm assuming you can do it with PayPal, but I may be wrong. What are all the ways to cash out to real life? If there are regi...

oh wow
@SaintWacko This made me think...what should we do with all the AH questions once it's retired?
Just leave them?
15:22
@SaintWacko Close this as too localized since the RMAH is closing soon. :P
I've only just realised that jmfsg has wreck it ralph as his avatar
@Powerlord we don't TL before an event, l2stackexchange
@StrixVaria Burn them. Burn them all.
@kalina Well noticed.
@StrixVaria Have to.
@SaintWacko Dupes with totally opposite accepted+upvoted answers? That seems odd.
15:23
@SaintWacko Well compare to City of Heroes.
I think we left those questions alone.
We never know if they'll bring the AH back.
And it's a lot of overhead to go back through to maintain.
Aaaaahahhh I got to the last sector in FTL and died
@fredley trying to defeat me at privacy settings is something you don't even want to undertake
> You are unable to withdraw the funds directly after depositing into the Battle.Net account balance.
@MichaelDunfield welcome to summer 2012
15:23
@kalina I'm not
@StrixVaria Close but don't delete.
> If you choose to send the funds to your Battle.net acccount you will not be able to withdraw them in the future
How are those opposite?
I read wrong, nevermind.
@3ventic Ah, okay
15:24
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Q: I have my own minecraft server with hamachi, and it says bad login when I login

xXTheLegendXxI Have a minecraft that isn't from Minecraft.net I have the illegal version, (I guess) My friend says that the louncher he downloaded is illegal and so do I :( help? I am really hoping that it's not just for the LEGAL version :(

Minecrafters: is this piracy support?
@MichaelDunfield what you need to do, is make all the fights in the first couple of sectors last forever
@fbueckert "I have the illegal version"
so that you can level up your guys by repairing stuff etc
and then get the teleporter
and enter the last zone
teleport onto the ship into 3 out of 4 of the weapons rooms
Oh, repairing is how you level them up?
blow up the weapons (which don't get fixed)
no
performing <action> lots levels them up
operating the shields will give xp when you take shield damage
15:25
And yeah I was teleporting into the weapon rooms. But when the flagshiup jumped away it took a bunch of my crew with it and the weapons were repaird next time I encountered it
repairing will give xp when you repair damage
@OrigamiRobot That doesn't really make sense either.
> I Have a minecraft that isn't from Minecraft.net I have the illegal version,
firing the weapons will give xp when you fire weapons
Closed questions automatically get deleted nowadays.
15:25
That's saying he pirated it, yes.
Unless they're dupes.
helm control gives xp when you're shot at
@kalina Oh. nice.
(evasive)
@fbueckert SHUT IT DOWN
15:26
@3ventic Yeah, but I'm wondering if this behaviour happens with legal versions, too.
so if you make the early encounters last as long as possible
@kalina They get fixed when it jumps away though.
you can level all your guys up to level 2 in stuff
I had a chance until it jumped. I didn't know it was going to do that. Lost my four best boarders.
@MichaelDunfield wrong, the four weapons that have their own rooms with no entrances don't get fixed
15:26
@fredley Works for me.
BUT do not blow up all four weapons and do not kill everybody on the ship
@kalina I broke three of them, and then the flagship jumped away. When I found it again they were all operational.
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Q: I have my own minecraft server with hamachi, and it says bad login when I login

xXTheLegendXxI Have a minecraft that isn't from Minecraft.net I have the illegal version, (I guess) My friend says that the louncher he downloaded is illegal and so do I :( help? I am really hoping that it's not just for the LEGAL version :(

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Q: Skyrim Mac Mouse Simultaneous Click

user55626I recently picked Skyrim on my Mac and I can't double cast or bash with my shield, because those actions require a simultaneous click. Sometimes I'm able to do it (don't ask me how), but I'm looking for a way to either map M2's functions to the keyboard OR find a way to properly configure my mous...

@fbueckert It seems like a dupe of gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/50820/… anyway
if you kill everybody, a super aggressive AI takes control and owns you
@MichaelDunfield weird, I wonder if they patched it?
15:27
@kalina Oh, is that like a special event?
@MichaelDunfield more like a pain in the behind event
@kalina Well, all three were operational, because I broke one of them off in the fight.
@kalina Maybe? My crew were also gone. =[
@MichaelDunfield I'm sure there's an actual question that deals specifically with tactics for the last boss
I had 8 crew too. Four Engis, three humans and a Mantis
Lost everyone but the Engis when the flagship jumped
I prefer mantis and rock people crews
but engis are nice for repairing
15:28
Rock people are my favourite. Only reason I had the mantis was because I rescued him from Engis, didn't see any opportunities for hiring people
@StrixVaria That's what we did before, IIRC.
I want to get some more of the ships but I keep missing the events you need to unlock them
I only have 2.
my favourite ship is the federation ship with the built in beam weapon
@kalina plays FTL? swoon
I played and completed FTL months before you even got around to it
15:30
Also I only had the starting kestrel weapons and I ran out of drones and missiles
That's not hard to do.
@kalina Sorry for not being able to afford it before
@MichaelDunfield not you, the robot
@MichaelDunfield How's your job going?
15:31
swooning over me playing a game he played
like we don't do that every single day
@GnomeSlice must have me on ignore. yessssssssssssssss
@Wipqozn Blugh, client didn't get back to us at all yesterday and then today they send in a thing where they want a bunch of stuff I don't have assets for, so my contract is going to have to get extended again
19 secs ago, by OrigamiRobot
@GnomeSlice must have me on ignore. yessssssssssssssss
@OrigamiRobot Guess again
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
15:31
@MichaelDunfield Man, all that extra money must suck.
@Wipqozn Yeah, tell me about it
@Wipqozn Exactly. Contract extensions are celebrated at my company.
extra money is always awesome
@kalina Money for MtG
@OrigamiRobot you're an addict
seek help
15:32
Of course I am
@OrigamiRobot Money for house payments.
And other, niggly things called bills.
@StrixVaria Leave them around because who the hell cares?
Money for MLP
I am spending $120 on 6 prereleases this weekend.
@OrigamiRobot wait, what?
you're spending $120 on 6 small pieces of card?
15:33
@fbueckert That's not what extra money means.
I spent $120 on ones and zeros
@kalina No, 6 events.
@OrigamiRobot Depends on your definition of extra.
I spent bacon on stomach.
@OrigamiRobot @Gnomeslice would never ignore you, @OrigamiRobot. He loves you. You guys are like brothers.
15:34
@fbueckert Extra = After bills
Wait, that's not how spending works.
@OrigamiRobot are you using the word event to describe something other than its dictionary definition?
If it's, "More than I used to make", with more being defined as 0, then, yeah.
@OrigamiRobot It is amusing to me that so many people in here are giving you grief about spending money on MtG
15:34
@kalina If I just sit and don't shoot at a ship who can't hurt me through my shield, will my pilot get a ton of XP?
@kalina No?
@MichaelDunfield pilot, engine dude, shield operator
@OrigamiRobot mk
@OrigamiRobot That definition I definitely agree with.
15:34
Thanks for the tip
@SaintWacko Really? Whom are the candidates in this vote?
I'm guessing the little stars over my crew icon at the bottom show their level?
@MichaelDunfield if you're that confident, you could turn off your shields and let yourself take damage and then turn them back on and repair it
I was wondering what those were
yes
green = level 1, yellow = level 2
15:35
@Powerlord -.-
The levelups don't really feel worth putting in the time "grinding" their skills up though
@Sterno That's what I want.
@kalina One Sealed event is 6 packs. You have 1 hour to build a 40 card deck from those packs. Then you play 3 matches. Matches are best of 3 games. You get 1 pack per match win.
@StrixVaria We are soulmates.
@SaintWacko See? Now the context has less ambiguity.
15:37
@Powerlord Your context has ambiguity
grumble
I will be doing that 6 times.
@OrigamiRobot Do you trade with others during that hour?
@Sterno shrug Maybe I'll just start telling them how I consider their hobbies a waste of money.
@SaintWacko I could have asked how close a vote was it just to mess with you further.
@Sterno "So many"?
15:38
@Sterno No, you only get the 6 packs for deckbuilding.
@GraceNote I think it's been at least 3, since this morning
@OrigamiRobot Do you get the 6 packs, plus 1 pack for winning?
>1 is surprising to me, given that everyone in here "wastes" their money on video games
or is a filthy pirate
@JasonBerkan You get 6 packs for deckbuilding. At the end of the 3 matches, you get 1 pack per match win plus one for going 3-0.
15:39
@Sterno Or both!
@fbueckert Indeed!
@Sterno Suffice it to say, people have hobbies.
Speaking of video games, I see Phoenix Wright has a release date... October 24 I think
@Sterno Personally, I started to feel less bad about the amount of money spent on hobbies when I started to pay $1 for 3 days of lunch compared to $5-15 a day for lunch at my previous job.
They spend money on those hobbies.
15:40
@GraceNote That is impressive.
Like me; I spend money learning dancing.
@GraceNote $1 for 3 days? What are you eating, Ramen?
Of course, I haven't done that for...a year and change at this point; crazy studio won't take my money anymore.
Some of us sadly don't have the option of telecommuting.
@Powerlord That's option 2. Option 1 are these rice dishes that they sell for $1 but actually have so much rice that, if I'm the only one eating, it lasts 3 days.
15:41
(even though I work in IT...)
@GraceNote I'm given to understand that you also only weigh about 15 pounds.
@kalina You mean repair it at a shop? You can't repair hull damage without a hull repair drone.
I might be exaggerating
@GraceNote weighs multiple tons as she is a mobile artillery platform.
@Powerlord Technically, this could be done as long as your office had a kitchen that you were allowed to use. My old office only had as much as a microwave, and so eating at the local Subway or a diner was pretty much the only option aside from the occasional thing of leftovers.
15:42
@Sterno I shouldn't point out a girl's weight, but she is a spaceship that probably weighs tons.
@JasonBerkan I'm going by what @GraceNote said in chat a few days ago!
@GraceNote We have a microwave and refrigerator here.
What makes me sad is when I'm at the gas station and obviously-low-income people are buying $20 of lottery tickets
@Powerlord Well, fridge here too, but fridges are terrible at warming food up.
3
@Sterno You should see what happens here.
15:43
Aug 7 at 17:49, by Grace Note
Alternatively and more accurately, I'm a self-propelled piece of artillery.
But that does unfortunately make these little rice things not an option for you - they require a stove and a pot.
@GraceNote True, but it was more about keeping things cool that need to stay that way until you cook it.
@Powerlord Quite
@MichaelDunfield no you can repair room damage though
My brother works for Purolater, and every two weeks, the government checks go out to the reserves. And every two weeks, the casino is packed for that night.
15:44
if you're struggling for scrap, just train up your shield dude rather than actually taking damage
Actually, we have two microwaves here. For an office of 80ish people.
@OrigamiRobot I don't get it
I don't know how to explain it any more clearly.
@Sterno To that point, despite my vast efforts to stuff my face with food, I've dropped down to 31kg. Still 179cm tall.
@Powerlord I take it eating out is very common, then?
@OrigamiRobot Don't booster packs only have like 8 cards in them?
15:45
@MichaelDunfield 14
@GraceNote Yes. It doesn't help that we have like 3 blocks where almost every business serves food of some sort.
@GraceNote If a bowl of rice is lasting you 3 days, stuff your face harder!
Also I wish I had people to play Magic with
@OrigamiRobot it's a concept I'll never understand, because my brain is refusing to accept input regarding some of the earlier steps
@GraceNote That doesn't sound very healthy
15:46
@GraceNote er
I'm only slightly taller and more than twice your weight. And people call me thin
you're 31kilograms?
@OrigamiRobot 14? Didn't it used to be 15?
how are you both lighter than me and taller than me
that sounds really dangerous
Actually, scratch that. You're dangerously underweight
15:46
@Powerlord I imagine they make good money for that.
Aug 16 at 15:30, by OrigamiRobot
You need to not live in the middle of nowhere.
I am 6"2' and around 130 lbs
I'm a fat fatty. I'm eating Doritos as we speak. Mmmmm.
SI units, please
No, not dangerously underweight. Impossibly underweight.
15:47
@GraceNote That has to be a typo. I have a 7 year old kid who weighs that much.
I'd actually like to be able to gain weight.
I stuff my face, and I can't.
@MichaelDunfield Move in with @OrigamiRobot. You guys can be room mates.
I'm pretty sure @GraceNote is talking about Elona...
This is the part where I inform folks who weren't present in the original conversation that Sternold is referring to, that this is referring to a game character in a game where, technically, weight and height have no impact and can change willy-nilly on unrelated events.
Oh, apparently boosters now contain 1 land card in Magic as its 15th card. That seems silly.
15:48
@GraceNote oh, well, now I suddenly feel less worried for you
If it means a special land, it might not be so silly.
@GraceNote Video games??? On The Bridge. Heresy.
@Powerlord 14 + Basic land
Anyone who likes space sims should get it.
If it's one of the basic lands that I imagine no one has any trouble to get and, really, they should sell just like packs of basic lands for cheap... then ugh.
@OrigamiRobot To wit, ugh.
15:49
@OrigamiRobot It used to be 11 commons instead of 10.
...How did that not link up?
@Powerlord In Dragon's Maze, the basic land was replaced with a non-basic land so you did get 15.
@fbueckert No protocol
@fbueckert Space
@fbueckert space after 'Series'
15:49
@fbueckert White space.
Oh. Derp.
@fbueckert thanks, more games to sit in my Steam list and never be played
@kalina It's like a single player Eve!
EVE damaged me
Speaking of space games
15:52
@GraceNote The problem is all that food you eat off the floor.
Huh, fancy enough, I'm actually personally around 179 myself. Closer to 180-ish I think.
@Sterno It's filling, free, and only rarely cursed! Eating off the food is not merely a means of survival, it's a lifestyle!
It's not even lunch time yet and I keep thinking "is it going home time yet?"
Better than picking fruit off of trees, those things are somehow inordinately frequently cursed.
by the time I'm 25, I will have reached the point where 75% of the games on my Steam list are games I've never played
So anyone else hear about Clang running out of money?
15:53
and 99% of those games will be from humble bundles
@kalina Now I feel old.
@GraceNote I do that a lot when gardening.
@kalina My list passed that percent years ago.
Saves so much food.
@OrigamiRobot you'll feel even older when you realise that I still have 5 years until I'm 25
well, 4 1/2
15:54
@fbueckert How does a compiler run out of money?
@kalina That's why I felt old to begin with.
@MichaelDunfield That looks like a lot of fun. I just hope there are tractor beams, otherwise looting in three dimensions is going to be incredibly annoying
I know how old you are.
@fbueckert "What, this apple is only handy? I'll just eat it. Oh, hey, look over there, that apple's bigger-than-a-man! I'll pick that one for the bin!"
@SaintWacko Yeah, there are.
15:54
@OrigamiRobot of course, I forgot that you're a semi stalker
@GraceNote I usually pick handy and up. Lower gets eaten.
I don't get it. Why did YouTube collapse all its settings into a single popup menu that takes quite a few more clicks to access when the bar has space to display them all?
@kalina Yes, I stalk 18-wheelers.
@fbueckert Huh, hadn't thought about those as a source of food
15:55
I generally try to gun for nothing smaller than "rather big", lest there's slim pickings.
@OrigamiRobot ho ho
I've played it a bit. Watched the stream where indiegamestand interviewed the developer and it sounded really interesting, but I haven't had time to really get into it
or motivation
It's only been like 2 years since I was twice @kalina's age.
@SaintWacko Yup. They do nothing about it.
As long as you meet your quota, the rest is fair game.
I'm still more than twice @RonanForman's age.
15:55
@Powerlord I didn't realise you were ancient
You lose it once the task completes, though.
@fbueckert I've never successfully met the quota
@SaintWacko Get the Gardening skill.
@SaintWacko Me neither :(
@fbueckert You do get more pay when you go past the quota.
15:56
Phenomenal for training stats and Learning.
@GraceNote Yeah, I usually go for twice/triple the quota.
Which isn't very hard.
@SaintWacko Two tips - first, get Gardening as a skill. Even without it though, beeline for corners of the map. Make sure to look with * at the sizes and grab the biggest stuff.
@GraceNote Hm, alright
I'll try that
When you're first starting you'll only be able to have time to pick up like 2 or 3 of the big ones but that already adds up to 30-50s if you see big ones so that works handy enough.
@fbueckert It took me quite a while to get an order of magnitude over the quota, I was quite pleased with that.
@GraceNote Do the rewards get better the more you go over?
I have never beat Party Time! either.
15:58
Or is it just an on/off deal?
@GraceNote I think that was my problem, I wasn't looking around, I was just picking everything
@fbueckert I think it's proportional but the ones where you have bigger multipliers would pay significantly less to begin with. For example, 20s quotas give about 300-500 gold ish, while an 80s quota pays 1600 to begin with, so I can boost that 1600 to over 5k with enough goods compared to what the 300-500 gets.
@OrigamiRobot I've beaten Party Time twice

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