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5pike

19:00

@BenBrocka Yes, but Monster Hunter is a BIG title. It is a freaking system seller.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert low res too. Vita's screen is pretty solid, but 3DS is pretty much passable at best

5pike

I bet once it's released, you see that the sales for 3ds will get a bump

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Yeah, I tried the demo on the 3DS, and didn't like it.

It was too blocky for my taste.

And choosing between that and sweet, sweet HD is no choice at all.

Ben Brocka

@5pike I'm sure it will, not my cup of tea though. Ideally console release, I probably would'nt even want it on Vita

Good to see more Vita love though. It's hardware is amazing and deserves way more games

Though the memory card thing is still bullshit, but Sony's finally cutting the price on them I think

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Is it more comfortable than the PSP?

5pike

19:01

@BenBrocka Indeed. But it really needs a game.

GnomeSlice

And did they ditch the weird disc based games?

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice 10x better

IT has carts not discs

5pike

The UMD's were crap

GnomeSlice

I aways found the PSP hard to hold.

5pike

Loud

and

GnomeSlice

19:02

God dammit, now I want one of these things.

5pike

slow

GnomeSlice

Thanks a lot

Ben Brocka

It's a really nice size, 2 REAL analog sticks, not that circle pad thing

5pike

@GnomeSlice Go check the games before you buy it.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka The circle pad thing was a cool idea for for factor, but it sucked balls in practice

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fbueckert

19:03

@BenBrocka That's another problem with the 3DS.

GnomeSlice

EL&U you crazy

fbueckert

Monster Hunter NEEDS two analog sticks.

Ben Brocka

Yeah. Plus it was slipperier than that 3DS's concave design

@fbueckert Oh god I hadn't thought of that

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka I have never tried a 3DS

Also, I booted up my DS Lite on the wekend and found the bottom screen is starting to go bad.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Playing Monster Hunter without two analog sticks leads to some very uncomfortable hand positions.

GnomeSlice

19:04

It has three large spots that look almost like water stains on paper starting from the left side.

I'm going to try to order a new one and get my dad to replace it for me

fbueckert

They called it, "The claw" for the PSP.

5pike

@fbueckert and it freaking HURT

one of the many reasons why I couldn't get into it (till now).

Ben Brocka

Wonder if Capcom will reconsider putting MH4 on Vita with the love sony's giving it (they'll probably wait to see what the PS4 launch does to Vita sales though)

GnomeSlice

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fbueckert

@5pike Dual analog sticks + big screen = happiness.

@BenBrocka For some reason, Nintendo's the console of choice in North America.

I don't know why, but that's the way it's been since Tri.

5pike

19:06

Ok, finished flying over the VITA releases. There are maybe games I would consider buying, but they are not enough to warant buying a vita

Trent Hawkins

@fbueckert it isn't that bad for 90% of the game. but lack of a second stick REALLY sucks underwater.

Ben Brocka

Yeah, but the Vita hasn't been selling well so they're going to stick for 3DS for now. Might change though

fbueckert

@TrentHawkins Which is why you got it in the first place. :P

GnomeSlice

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Ben Brocka

@5pike With PS+ you also get a couple free games a month though. And also Gravity Rush, Uncharted Golden Abyss and Wipeout 2048 which seem to permanently be free for PS+

GnomeSlice

19:07

oooooo so pretty

@BenBrocka aaaaaa gravity rush!

That looked pretty interesting

5pike

@BenBrocka Are these Ps1 games?

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice does look sweet, I don't really know how the gameplay will be though

@5pike Gravity Rush and such? No those are Vita exclusives

5pike

@BenBrocka Ok, but do you get other games for free, or are these the only ones?

Ben Brocka

Those 3 are free at all times it seems, and they rotate a few new games (usually 2 lately?) a month. As long as you "claim" them you can play the free games as long as you have +

5pike

Because I would LOVE to get a Vita, 3ds or WiiU, but the outlook is just grimdark.

Ben Brocka

19:10

I probably have 10+ PS Vita exclusives and 10+ PSP games free from the service now, and more than that on PS3

GnomeSlice

@5pike GameStick!

Ben Brocka

I love my Wii U for it's potential but...I wouldn't recommend one over the other options

5pike

@GnomeSlice let me check on that

GnomeSlice

@5pike sec

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Ben Brocka

I'm staying away from the whole microconsole thing until one of them actually makes it

OrigamiRobot

19:12

@BenBrocka Other console options?

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka I reeeeeaallly really hope the GameStick takes off.

Also now you and your Vita have me thinking about all the non-indie gaming I haven't done in years.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot I couldn't really recommend it over any single one of the current/next gen portable/home consoles

5pike

@GnomeSlice Not my cup of tea. My PC is near my TV, and I don't see why I should cary around such a thing...

Seems like another Ouya

Ben Brocka

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Tiny Tina should have spoke at Gamescom

GnomeSlice

@5pike Basically, but better.

5pike

19:14

how so?

GnomeSlice

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Ben Brocka

@5pike More portable I guess

Seems to have similar hurdles to overcome though

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka All the options come down to "What exclusives do you want to play the most"

GnomeSlice

@5pike Better form factor, better controller, slightly less 'open' so while it might not be as good for prospective developers, consumers won't have to sift through as much utter crap as on the OUYA

Ben Brocka

19:15

might have a better controller than the Ouya though

5pike

@GnomeSlice Yeah, but does it provide a real benefit if you already have a Android smartphone?

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot To some extent, but there's also 3rd party coverage. So if you want great 3rd party games and KINDA want Sony's exclusives the PS4 might still be better than really liking the Wii U's Nintendo exclusives, because it's third party coverage is pretty small

Sterno

HOW EVERYTHING OUT

5pike

Because I could just buy a hdmi plug and play with my smartphone

GnomeSlice

@5pike TV and a controller. So yes. Plus it's not even the same games.

fbueckert

19:16

@Sterno NOT THAT AGAIN!

GnomeSlice

@5pike You could, but it's not as nice as the console experience, wouldn't you agree?

Sterno

@fbueckert settle in for a few months of it!

GnomeSlice

When I get my first paycheck every in my entire life (soon) I'm buying one. $80 is pretty dece

fbueckert

@Sterno Only if I get to flag you every time it happens.

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice Is the "console experience" all that important?

5pike

19:17

@GnomeSlice I think I am not the target audience for this.

GnomeSlice

@FEichinger To some, yes. I love being able to sit back with a controller and do shit.

Sterno

@fbueckert challenge accepted!

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka I don't mean first-party when I say exclusives. I just mean it's all "Which console has the most games that you want that the others don't have"

GnomeSlice

There's just something about the GameStick that sticks out at me. I don't know if it's the form factor or what.

But I have to have one.

5pike

Well, go for it.

Just not for me

GnomeSlice

19:18

I'm probably going to be disappointed by it

because I have my PC for indie gaming

5pike

I have my PC for everything.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Ah, yeah. But I think 3DS and PS4 currently have the best coverage there. Well, PS4 has the POTENTIAL there. And Vita seems to be shaping up. Wii U needs a kick in the ass like the Vita just (might have) got but I'm not sure how that's going to happen

GnomeSlice

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Ben Brocka

Sony was keeping shit secret until Gamescom and they're waiting on PS4 to boost Vita sales. Nintendo...if they have secret stuff, they REALLY need to start pitching it

5pike

@BenBrocka and fast

OrigamiRobot

19:19

@BenBrocka MH3U was enough to make me want a Wii U (along with future zelda games) and as far as next gen, I am only interesting in Destiny right now.

5pike

People are losing interest

3ds is now picking up, but the WiiU isn't really

GnomeSlice

I miss Nintendo.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, MH3U is a system seller for some but it's already out and hasn't improved the outlook that much. I mean more for future games than current/announced stuff too

Trent Hawkins

@BenBrocka As much as I love Nintendo's offerings, I can't disagree.

GnomeSlice

I need a new Nintendo console in my life

Ben Brocka

19:20

I'd buy more 3DS games if Nintendo's digital policy weren't shit

5pike

@GnomeSlice You had a Wii?

OrigamiRobot

Nintendo needs to stop being afraid of the internet.

GnomeSlice

@5pike I still have one.

But I haven't played it in a while.

I should get a 3DS

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot They're not afraid...they hate it

GnomeSlice

But 3D is stupid

Ben Brocka

19:21

You can disable the 3D

5pike

@GnomeSlice gimicky as all hell

3d tv's were praised as the new coming of christ

Ben Brocka

If you couldn't disable the 3D I'd probably stop using the 3DS actually...

OrigamiRobot

I understand that there are kids playing, but I am not one, I don't need to go through 15 screens to play MH3U online.

5pike

and now they are pretty much shovelware

Ben Brocka

@5pike ...by the producers of 3D TV

OrigamiRobot

19:22

33 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's stupid.

5pike

@BenBrocka and by every tech blog (in my country)

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Touche, oops.

Ben Brocka

@5pike They hype whatever the manufacturers are hyping, really

Trent Hawkins

I enjoy watching cut-scenes in 3d, but playing a 3ds game with the 3d on for longer than 5 minutes gives me a migrane.

5pike

All aboard the hype train

GnomeSlice

19:23

@BenBrocka @RedRiderX @Ullallulloo

Ben Brocka

It's just too distracting

GnomeSlice

steamcommunity.com/groups/flyingbundle#announcements/detail/…

!!

Ben Brocka

and your head has to be in the right place

5pike

that's why I try to avoid any trailers or news regarding games I am interested in

fbueckert

@5pike This cycle happens every 20 or so years. They herald 3D as the latest, greatest thing, the public goes, "Meh. No biggie.", it dies, waiting to rise again.

StrixVaria

19:24

@fbueckert What?

When was the last time 3d was big?

Ben Brocka

The last time I can remember (well, was aware of) was the time when there were those red/blue 3D glasses

GnomeSlice

Ben Brocka

This is a pretty huge step up from that bullshit, but it's still not there yet

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka DAMMIT

fbueckert

@StrixVaria I read an article about this; I don't recall where it was from, but 3D's been possible for a very long time.

5pike

19:25

@fbueckert Mhhh... can't say I really remember that.

StrixVaria

@fbueckert Ever since we've had 2 eyes.

Trent Hawkins

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5pike

@StrixVaria HA

Ben Brocka

For one thing it has to be effortless. Those fucking glasses are not effortless. Specific, 5 degree viewing angles and distances are not effortless.

fbueckert

@StrixVaria Har har. :P

StrixVaria

19:26

@BenBrocka I do remember that now. I had a video of like 8 roller coasters in first person that had that kind of 3d. It was stupid.

fbueckert

I refuse to subscribe to 3D until we get holographic technology.

Sterno

3D makes my eyes hurt.

GnomeSlice

I would much rather watch movies in 2D

5pike

3d is nice once in a while.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert At that point it's not really "3D" in the same way that current 3D is

GnomeSlice

19:27

I saw Tron Legacy in 3D and I probably watched about half of it with the glasses off because I didn't like wearing them.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Exactly.

5pike

One other problem with 3d - They start to base movies around the 3D gimick

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice It sucks either way since taking them off is so blurry.

5pike

And when you watch one of them in 2D, you really see that.

Ben Brocka

@5pike I hate to see games doing that on 3DS, too

GnomeSlice

19:28

@StrixVaria Yeah, but I could still tell what was going on.

Ben Brocka

worse with games, because I actually give a shit about them

5pike

@BenBrocka and they cost more

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5pike

which game is obvious just made for the 3D gimmick?

fbueckert

@5pike Anything produced by a movie studio?

Trent Hawkins

19:31

I took a pair of those 'real 3d' glasses home and modified them so they work with my glasses magnetic clip-on system. It removes my biggest gripe with current 3d tech - wearing two pairs of glasses arms behind my ears. I still prefer to see movies in 2d.

fbueckert

@TrentHawkins And you couldn't even use them for Pacific Rim.

Which, I admit, looks pretty darn good in 3D.

Trent Hawkins

@fbueckert yeah, because we saw it in IMAX 3d, which is different than 'real 3d'... I should have taken those home.

fbueckert

@TrentHawkins They may have frowned on that.

5pike

@fbueckert Every move theatre would

fbueckert

@5pike For Real3D, I don't care. They want to charge me $3 more to see the same movie? Alright. I'm taking those glasses home.

IMAX 3D glasses are much bulkier and higher quality than those pieces of junk.

Trent Hawkins

19:37

Screw 'em. If they're charging extra for the 'pleasure' of 3d, I will take those puppies home and modify them so that in the future I can watch their fancy 3d in comfort.

GnomeSlice

I saw TRON: Legacy in IMAX 3D

The theatre had really good audio.

So it was worth it even if I had to take the glasses off every now and then

user20683

I can't see most 3D

StrixVaria

Trent Hawkins

That said, I don't plan on seeing another 'IMAX 3D' film in the near future - heck, we only saw Pacific Rim in that format because the screening we planned to see was sold out.

5pike

@StrixVaria story of my life

GnomeSlice

19:47

I must have missed this

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Pretty cool

@TrentHawkins Ooo such good sound though.

Pacfific Rim was awesome by the way

5pike

@GnomeSlice Isn't valve cooperating with them to make the steambox?

GnomeSlice

@5pike Beats me, I just said that I missed it.

Don't have sound at the moment but if it's modular does that mean you can stick them together to make better ones?

FEichinger

@5pike They were asked to provide a prototype. Valve apparently doesn't want a $1000 Steambox, though.

5pike

@FEichinger yeah, 1000$ would be a bit much

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice I think it means that the parts are easy to change.

GnomeSlice

19:50

oh

FEichinger

@5pike There was a lot of bad marketing from the Piston side involved, too. What with them actually calling it Steam Box for a while for whatever reason.

Ullallulloo

Actually, I haven no idea.

GnomeSlice

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5pike

@GnomeSlice Ok, ok I subscribe

any other bundle recommendations?

GnomeSlice

@5pike What are you looking for?

Mana

19:54

yeah Gone Home was really good.

GnomeSlice

@5pike groupees.com/bm9

5pike

Bundles, mostly

cheap

many games

Mana

and not a horror game. thank goodness, the first 45 minutes had me completely on edge.

5pike

paypal

GnomeSlice

@5pike groupees.com/bamm

@5pike store.indiegala.com/index.php/the-magic-10-bundle.html

@5pike bundlestars.com

@5pike And the current IndieRoyale bundle is really nice.

Lazers

19:56

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