The Bridge

user15026

7:01 PM

@Nzall I will keep this in mind although I'd rather read it

However, some of the writers have a Twitter account where they sometimes end up opening plot holes the size of the Maelstrom while answering questions from fans, and then the lore community goes into an uproar

@Ash there are 2 of his videos that give suggested reading orders

Warcraft Chronicles Give Away & Warcraft Lore Reading Order

►

and

Top 7 Warcraft Novels [Lore]

►

user15026

@Nzall I can imagine just how well that goes over :P

Nzall

so if you want some suggestions on books to start with, those are good starting point

user15026

I will have to check this out :) Thanks! :)

user15026

yay more books to read :P

Yuuki

7:03 PM

@Nzall The Burning Legion is probably the biggest plot hole at this point because of all the changes/retcons they made for the xpac.

Dragonrage

@Frank thats the best one to have. the others are helpful, but not as big of a change

Yuuki

So demons are immortal because their souls are sent to the Twisting Nether where they regenerate. Except not because their regeneration is fueled by Argus. Except not because they were regenerating before Argus was ever enslaved.

ToxicFrog

I don't know anything about WarCraft lore post-Beyond the Dark Portal, but "the Twisting Nether" is still a great name for the void between worlds.

Yuuki

Except it isn't. That's the Great Dark.

The problem is that astronomy in WoW is really... weird. Sometimes it's interpreted and sometimes it's interpreted another way.

Nzall

@Ash There was one point where they offhandedly said that a boss who was defeated in WC3 is the earlier version of a boss we defeat in Warlords of Draenor, who remembers us. Only problem is that Warlords was a time travel expansion, so in absolute timeline terms, the Warlords battle happened before the WC3 battle.

Yuuki

7:08 PM

It depends on the work and in the end, it confuses everyone.

@Nzall Warlords should just be non-canon.

Nzall

and because that boss is from the Burning Legion, he essentially transcends all realities

Yuuki

Garrosh was executed at the end of the War Crimes novel, full stop. Just retcon the entirety of Warlords.

It never happened, it doesn't exist.

It just completely blew up the lore.

Nzall

@Yuuki Only problem is that AU Gul'Dan only invaded our universe because of Garrosh meddling

user15026

This hurts my head

Yuuki

@Ash This is exactly why Warlords should be considered non-canon.

SaintWacko

7:11 PM

I still need to finish Legion

Yuuki

@Nzall Just like swap out Gul'Dan with Kel'Thuzad or something, I don't think we ever destroyed his phylactery in Wrath.

SaintWacko

I stopped playing before the Argus patch

Yuuki

I stopped right after Tomb of Sargeras, before the first Mythic clear.

Picking it back up right now.

Nzall

@SaintWacko If you got a character with 890 ilvl, you can quickly do Argus and catch up

user15026

All of these words are meaningless to meeeeee hahahaha

Nzall

7:13 PM

@Ash Now you know how I feel when you guys talk Warframe

user15026

I'm just amused because I have so much to learn :D And it's fun

Yuuki

The other thing I wish they would clear up is the difference between Light, Void, arcane, fel, shadow, etc. energies.

Like some sources say that fel is corrupted "life" energy, whatever that is. Or that it's the "absence of life" which doesn't make a lick of sense.

Or fel and Light are in opposition except that Light and Void are also in opposition.

But fel isn't Void.

Arcane is addicting except it is because that's fel. Or whatever.

ToxicFrog

It's almost like this is a 20 year old franchise written by dozens of people who were all making it up on the spot~

user15026

Hush, you ;)

ToxicFrog

:P

Yuuki

7:21 PM

@ToxicFrog Yeah but I wish someone at these long-running big money franchises would put some effort into setting down basic metaphysical ground rules.

It's the same whether it's Blizzard, Marvel, or DC.

So much snarl.

ToxicFrog

@Yuuki oh, agreed. There's a reason authorial bibles are a thing.

Yuuki

But then they try and some big-shot writer says "I'm too good for these rules and my stories are so special and you're holding me back".

And then the snarl builds up again.

user15026

I feel like it would be a mess to untangle it all now :/

Yuuki

They've gotten pretty close to fixing it on some occasions but then they need to release a new expansion and so they break some more eggs.

user15026

poor eggs, they never asked to be smashed

Nzall

7:31 PM

@Ash The worst part is that they're not even making a decent omelette with the broken eggs usually. It tends to be this weird raw egg mixture

Ronan

It's less raw and more half-baked

That would be a pun if you baked eggs

user15026

@Ronan You can, baked eggs can be tasty

Nzall

I mean, isn't an omelette/fried egg essentially a baked egg?

user15026

I have made stuff like this and it's delicious: bonappetit.com/recipe/portuguese-baked-eggs

user15026

@Nzall No? That's a fried egg or an omelette, there's no baking involved....

Nzall

7:34 PM

@Ash My mother tends to put the omelette in the oven after the bottom has set, so it becomes nice and fluffy

user15026

I really wanna eat eggs now

user15026

Luckily I have two dozen of various sizes at home (thank you mom and dad) so I can have eggs for dinner :D

Unionhawk

hmm now I need food

dammit

Dragonrage

I’ve never had a fluffy omelette.

Unionhawk

let's see... work backwards from "meeting at 6:30"...

user15026

7:40 PM

Bridge, I have someone looking for a laptop, they're torn between this one and this other one. Thoughts? Opinions? Other options?

Dragonrage

Omelettes are like tortillas made of eggs for holding other delicious foods

Unionhawk

bah

30 minutes to an hour predicted

what is this garbage

it's almost like I need to drive 20 miles in near rush hour conditions

Yuuki

@Ash On the face of it, the stats are almost identical.

So I'd say the MSI because it's $0.99 cheaper.

user15026

And as something used for gaming, they're acceptable?

Dragonrage

Yeah. Good cpu, nice amount of ram. Decent gpu. Should be fine

Unionhawk

7:44 PM

Yeah those stats are decent

Yuuki

I don't know much about laptops, but i7-8750, GeForce 1060, and 16 GB RAM seems good.

Dragonrage

Better cpu that I have in my tower. I only have an i5 :(

Unionhawk

comparable to my laptop but newer by at least a full GeForce generation

I might have a 970m I forget

Yuuki

So either is fine but if you get the MSI, you can also buy a Snickers bar or something.

user15026

And chocolate is good :P

Unionhawk

7:46 PM

and more pronounced red keyboard backlighting

even the cooling looks similar, fans out the back

Dragonrage

I actually got my cpu usage up to 100% the other day. My gpu was around 85% too

Usage that is.

I was playing Jurassic park evolution with a 4 stream multistream going among other things

Jurassic park evolution is not a light game when it comes to resources needed

Chippies

@Ash the specs look to be the same, I would go with MSI, because they are a brand of gaming laptops and all Dell consumer laptops are incredibly difficult to maintain

the specs for gaming are pretty good, for laptop specs

@Dragonrage laptop i7 is comparable to a decent desktop i3

at least when it comes to gaming

for productivity, that utilizes all cores, the i7 would be maybe on par with a desktop i5, maybe a tiny bit better

Source: I have a gaming laptop with an i7 and I built my wife a PC with one of the lower tier i5's and her PC destroys my laptop in gaming performance where the cpu matters

@Ash just from the brand reputation alone, I would also expect the MSI to have better cooling solution

Ave

ughh there's people throwing the game on splatoon 2

Yuuki

> Did you hear about the math teacher who’s afraid of negative numbers?
He will stop at nothing to avoid them.

Dragonrage

@Chippies I always forget that they make different chips for laptops than pcs

Ave

7:59 PM

they spent the whole game just swimming around

got 3p and 2p

and obv we lost

Dragonrage

I still want an i7 though

Ave

ugh time for salmon run I guess

Unionhawk

have fun with grizzco sloshers lol (unless it's rotated off it)

What day is splatfest, saturday?

Nzall

Don't get the MSI one, the GPU has 3 GB less memory

3 GB compared to 6 for the dell

Unionhawk

oh yeah it does

huh

Ronan

8:07 PM

@Unionhawk Yeah, I'm playing some turf war to prepare and am stomping everyone

Unionhawk

well look at you mr. S+ in splat zoens

I don't know how much I'll be able to play that day, that's cincinnati pride

I could hook into library wifi though probably

depending on where we end up setting up

Ave

also shame on yall for pulp

Ronan

@Unionhawk I'm S+1 now

@Ave Pulp!

Unionhawk

pulp is bad

Ronan

Fite me

Unionhawk

8:11 PM

light pulp at most

but no pulp is most superior

Ronan

Can you see other peoples stats/choices?

Unionhawk

You can in the square at least

If they're wearing the splatfest tee

but I think the tee is slightly bugged this time

I keep seeing people with grey shirts which is neither team

Ave

I mean

it's a valid option

I just don't like feeling random stuff in my mouth

3

Unionhawk

if you wanted orange pulp just eat a dang orange

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Grizzco sloshers are situationally good. The problem is when you have more than one on the team.

Ave

8:14 PM

@Ronan yes, on mobile app

Unionhawk

@Yuuki They're good in ways but when you lose track of your ink they're unmanageably bad

"all right, wind up for the sho-- shit out of ink oh no"

they do one hit steelheads and a couple others

Yuuki

IIRC, they can kill Flyfish.

Unionhawk

yeah that too

Yuuki

Whereas you'd normally have to try to Kobe grenades into their bucket things.

Ronan

@Yuuki That's not hard though

Unionhawk

8:16 PM

it's slightly hard

I always find myself unprepared

Ronan

I find aiming bombs easier than aiming that slosher

Unionhawk

Or if I am preparing some bullshit occurs

Like I was sitting in ink waiting for him to open up

fuckin maws on me all of a sudden

Yuuki

@Ronan I'm normally being shot at by that Stinger thing while slowly being encircled by a Steel Eel at the same time.

So yeah, aiming grenades/bombs at Flyfish is problematic.

Unionhawk

salmon run is chaos

djsmiley2k

I almost a @Wipqozn

in Root Access, 17 secs ago, by djsmiley2k

Dragonrage

8:20 PM

@djsmiley2k not even one dead. @Wipqozn would be disappointed

djsmiley2k

lol

as i said, nearly

tho ALL THOSE WOUNDS WERE A SINGLE NADE D:

Dragonrage

if i had a choice, i would run 2 medics, 2 snipers, a heavy, and an assaulter

djsmiley2k

my snipe team mostly rock

Dragonrage

i had a sniper with squad site, a plasma rifle, and extremely high accuracy, so i would have him fly up and shoot stuff while my assaulter would run into an area for vision, then dip back out for safety

SaintWacko

I need to pick up XCOM 2

Dragonrage

8:24 PM

the rest sort of guarded my flanks or made sure no one died

movement distance is incredibly helpful in xcom

Ave

dear god

we had like 10 bosses that one round

we all died by the end lol

Yuuki

There was one Salmon Run round that was doomed to failure because we had two Grizzco Sloshers, one Roller, and Dualies and like three or four Steelheads spawned.

rekt

djsmiley2k

wtf u say

well this mission is fooked, on the FIRST TURN

Unionhawk

@Yuuki they gave me a dynamo roller one round

I could do literally nothing

it was awful

Chippies

@Nzall ~~where did you see that? I can't find anything on the newegg page for the MSI that mentions vram~~ I found it just as I sent this message

wow, it was even in the description at the top, I'm so blind

that being said - while I would factor that in the purchasing decision, a laptop 1060 with 3gb wouldn't be a deal breaker. For most games that would require more than 3gb of vram, that 1060 will be too weak anyway

Yuuki

8:39 PM

@Nzall Well, cc @Ash, I guess.

user15026

nods

user15026

I noticed that

Chippies

I would look up some reviews of those two laptops, since there do seem to be pros and cons for each of them

but since there is vram difference, maybe the gpu's are slightly different too, so reviews are a must, imho :P

(I would recommend reading reviews on such purchases regardless of what we say anyway)

Nzall

try and find the HDD RPM for the Dell laptop. the MSI one is only 5.4K

Chippies

@Nzall that's pretty common for laptops though

and they both have an SSD already, so that HDD rpm wouldn't be a huge issue, imho

Nzall

8:42 PM

True

Chippies

@Nzall all their configs offer 5400 rpm HDD

I think newegg has listed wrong name for the dell laptop, because none of the G5 series offers i7, those are reserved for G7 series

Nzall

Check the part number

fncwf625smp

Chippies

actually none of the configs on dell match the exact specs on newegg model

@Nzall dell either doesn't list these numbers on their website or they don't have such a config for sale on their own site

Nzall

Model then, 5587

Chippies

@Nzall it returned more G5 laptops, some of which do have an i7

weird that in their own config page they don't list any G5's with i7

if you click on the laptop, it just takes you to the config page again with no i7 G5's available, nice

Nzall

8:49 PM

You might have to manually select that

Chippies

it did list that i7 as able to boost to 4.1ghz, while the MSI advertises theirs to boost up to 3.9 ghz

not sure if that's marketing fluff, or if it actually does differ

Nzall

dell.com/en-us/shop/game/new-dell-g5-15-gaming/spd/…

Chippies

that Dell is looking more appealing tbh, but I would definitely look up reviews to see how they deal with thermals

user15026

@Chippies Oh, yeah, this just gives me more info because I don't know what to look for

Nzall

And sound

Chippies

8:51 PM

@Nzall that just redirects me to the main page, because Dell

(most likely because I'm from Canada and your link goes to US page)

that Dell laptop lists their gpu as 1060 Max-Q, and those are slower than regular versions of the same model

if that MSI is indeed a regular version of the gpu, it might be better for gaming

Nzall

So I changed the en-US to en-CA, and it gave me an entirely different laptop

Chippies

according to MSI page that laptop has a full version of the gpu

Yuuki

Speaking of locale, YouTube still thinks I'm in Canada after someone linked a Canadian video to me.

Chippies

nowadays high end laptop gpu's are just underclocked desktop gpu's, Max-Q editions are built for laptops, so they're roughly a tier slower

1060 Max-Q is probably somewhere around the performance of a desktop 1050

Nzall

Okay, if I knew how to make gifs, this Dell stuff would go on /r/assholedesign

Because the USA site points me to the old model, but the CA site points me to the new model, which is 1700 dollars

Chippies

8:57 PM

@Nzall canadian dollars though

Nzall

oh right

Because international shopping wasn't complicated enough

dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-laptops-netbooks-and-tablets/…

That seems to be the canadian site for the laptop

@Yuuki sorry

Chippies

@Nzall I like how you had to go through the US site to find it, lol

Nzall

@Chippies nah, Google just only retrieves USA stores by default

so when I googled Dell 5587, it gave me the US site

Yuuki

@Nzall I don't even remember who it was. It's just that I keep seeing "Youtube (ca)" in the corner.

Chippies

Either their filter sucks or this laptop you linked doesn't exist

Nzall

9:00 PM

@Yuuki I didn't mean it was me, I just read Canadian and immediately wanted to starbait with a stereotype

Yuuki

Starbait just isn't that effective these days.

Unfortunately.

Nzall

@Chippies remove all filters, click the G15 name

John

@Yuuki :(

Nzall

Then select 16 GB under memory and it should be the first one

Ave

@Yuuki it does work, but it doesn't get as much stars.

Dragonrage

9:02 PM

Either the bridge has built up resistance to starbait, or they have become too lazy to star the messages anymore.

7

Yuuki

Or both.

murgatroid99

For a long time YouTube thought I was in Colombia because I once accidentally typed "youtube.co" instead of "youtube.com"

Chippies

@Nzall that worked, which just shows how terribly designed their website is

Nzall

@Dragonrage it's probably laziness. I'm even too lazy to go to bed right now

but I'm going to have to soon

Chippies

I need to go to bed too and my wife just got home and she will be mad that I am not gone to bed, so, ttyl

Ave

9:04 PM

@murgatroid99 I use enhancer for youtube which allows me to set my region automatically to anything I want

it also allows full-size video in tab which is cool

image of what I mean

(actually that's a bad example)

djsmiley2k

holy cow i saved the mission

Ave

this is better

(other video had black bars around it)

djsmiley2k

@Ave now that's cool

i tried to dfo that myself with css hacking awhile ago ;D

Wipqozn

9:39 PM

@djsmiley2k yeah the AI will punish you if you group your soldiers up. Gotta keep them spread out.

@Dragonrage I'd gladly trade 1 dead soldier if it meant the rest weren't wounded. THERE I SAID IT.

Losing your entire squad for a while hurts

Rotating soldiers can certainly help with that though

Yuuki

Darkest Dungeon, man

Dragonrage

@Wipqozn What about losing your entire squad forever? That's what you seem to be inclined to do

Yuuki

Recruit sacrificial parties so your main adventuring party can rest up.

Dragonrage

@Yuuki i think @Wipqozn's main adventuring party is the one he sacrifices

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user15026

9:48 PM

Bridge people who cook? WTF do I do with kale

Wipqozn

@Yuuki Exactly. See guys, @Yuuki has the right idea!

user15026

Like I realized it's CSA season so for the next while I am just like "OH NO SO MUCH KALE"

Wipqozn

@Yuuki would make a great squad commander

Yuuki

@Ash Usually, it's a salad thing but I know it's also used in some soups.

Wipqozn

@Ash Well, normally you eat it.

Yuuki

9:49 PM

@Wipqozn For certain values of "eat".

Dragonrage

@Ash baby kale goes pretty well with spinach in a salad

user15026

@Wipqozn Thanks, friend

Wipqozn

@Ash np!

user15026

@Yuuki I don't like it raw, that much I know

Wipqozn

Also @Ash, you might like this: reddit.com/r/eatcheapandhealthy

Yuuki

9:49 PM

@Ash Yeah, I don't think anyone with taste likes kale raw.

Wipqozn

Handy subreddit, and I bet they've got some handy suggestions with kale aside from "make a salad"

Yuuki

Some people can tolerate it better than others, but I personally don't know anyone who actually likes it that way.

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Dragonrage

@Yuuki raw baby kale is ok in a mixed green salad

Yuuki

That uses a specific kind of kale but I'm sure you can substitute.

Stews and soups are probably the most common way to consume non-salad kale.

Dragonrage

if you are going to use it in cooking though, you probably want to blanch it

user15026

9:52 PM

@Wipqozn ooooh this is neat

Wipqozn

@Ash It's a great subreddit. They have all kinds of clever recipes and meal ideas.

user15026

@Dragonrage This is not baby kale this is "threatening to take over teh world" kale

Wipqozn

@Ash In that case burn it with fire

Dragonrage

you could potentially substitute it for collard greens, but i havent personally tried that

also could probably substitute it for arugula

Yuuki

I've never tried stir-frying kale.

The problem is that kale is rough and it tends to stiffen up when cooked, IIRC.

user15026

9:58 PM

A friend sent me this recipe that sounds pretty good for Baked Eggs With Creamy Greens, Mushrooms, and Cheese Recipe

Yuuki

cc @Ash

I find it kinda funny that all of the recipes that I've been finding for kale are vegetarian.

Like, I get that there's a correlation but it's weird to me that no one seems to have tried including kale in a meat dish.

SaintWacko

@Yuuki thescramble.com/recipes-blog/fusilli-with-prosciutto-and-kale

That right there is amazing

user15026

@SaintWacko If I sub peameal bacon for the prosciutto, I could have that tonight

Yuuki

Okay, that's nice. I guess I have a complex about it because tofu gets the same rap for being a stereotypical "health nut" food that tastes terrible.

SaintWacko

Yeah, LadyWacko really likes tofu, but DameWacko and I have no interest in it

Yuuki

10:08 PM

Whereas if you look at Chinese cuisine, we use tofu in a lot of dishes with meat and it tastes great.

SaintWacko

Now kale, on the other hand, is delicious

Yuuki

It's like "maybe if you guys try cooking it a different way, you might actually like it".

Tofu is all about making a good sauce and getting the right texture.

user15026

I am learning to like tofu more

Yuuki

The problem is that the only tofu you tend to find in Western supermarkets is the extra-firm type.

Silky and soft tofu is great.

user15026

A lot of my issue is with the texture, but World has made me a few things that made it awesome

Yuuki

10:10 PM

Tofu has all sorts of texture so if you don't like one kind, there's always another.

It's perhaps the best food for someone who prioritizes mouthfeel.

user15026

Yeah, I'm learning it has a lot more versatility than I thought

user15026

Also, crispy fried tofu is pretty great. Then again, most fried things are :P

Ave

aagh fuck the sliding piece on my table that holds keyboard keeps falling and this time I think that I broke some fingers gdi it hurts so much

its 1am too can't go to hosptial

Yuuki

@Ash Soft tofu can be fried to have a crispy outside but airy and fluffy inside.

user15026

@Ave Can you maybe like splint it or tape it to another finger for now and ice it to get through until you can see someone?

Ave

10:14 PM

If it's broken, it's not that broken

user15026

Well, that's good I suppose

user15026

@Yuuki This sounds appealing

Ave

gdi english. I meant toes.

GodEmperorDune

@Ave fingers and toes can be deceptive about such things and be actually broken even if they don't feel it

ice it, try to immobilize it and don't walk on it unless necessary or you can make it much much worse

user15026

@GodEmperorDune nods my broken toes each never felt "broken" but they totally were

user15026

10:17 PM

So I'd go with ice and immobilize and get it checked when possible

user15026

because it's possible to still have full range of motion and it be broken

GodEmperorDune

@Ash yeah my previous boss broke his foot but walked around on it all day because it didn't feel broken and went from a few week healing process to like 9 months

Ave

ugh I don't have insurance

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, because mine was a single toe each time my nurse friends were like "they can't do much for that, just tape it to the one next to it, try not to walk on it as much as possible"

user15026

But I mean....I'd still get it checked out (and I did)

user15026

10:20 PM

Because you don't want to make things worse

user15026

and fingers are so useful

GodEmperorDune

@Ave gofundme?

Ave

don't think that it works for turkey

I could ask my dad to pay if they're indeed broken but I'd eather not talk to him unless I have to

I think that it stopped hurting.

IDK, I usually don't feel any pain, so it might be that.

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