The Bridge

user15026

18:00

Well, I love you all.

Avery

We love you too.

GodEmperorDune

@Ash you can repay us by having an awesome ceremony tomorrow

Avery

^

user15026

I can do that

Unionhawk

If @GodEmperorDune and @Avery decline cupcakes does that mean more for me and @Wipqozn?

:D

Avery

18:02

Maybe.

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk nah my forfeited cupcakes will not go to either of you

Yuuki

In wildlife-related news, if I don't see the momma birb when I get home from work, I'll probably be taking the babies to the local wildlife rehabilitation center post-haste.

Avery

@Yuuki for bird mom

headcanon

Yuuki

I am slightly worried about transportation, namely concerned about accidents when removing them from the nest.

Avery

I'd recommend contacting the local wildlife rehabilitation center beforehand to ask for any tips etc on that

Tim Stone

18:05

urgh, I feel horrible for raining on the parade but wtfbbq

Yuuki

@TimStone So if you've never had one year of continuous health coverage, that's a pre-existing condition?

Tim Stone

This appears to be saying that an insurer should intentionally refuse coverage for six months if someone lapses for more than two months

@Yuuki It's even worse than a pre-existing condition! This is the law telling the insurance companies to deny you for no discernable purpose

Unionhawk

Yea, "shall do this thing" not "may do this thing"

fuck's sake

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

YOU DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE FOR 2 MONTHS?

BlueBarren

Why don't Republicans make any sense?

Unionhawk

HOW IRRESPONSIBLE OF YOU

MadMAxJr

18:10

That's about as messed up as a contracting agency telling me, "Yes, we offer insurance." Their insurance did not qualify as coverage under the AHCA however and they did not have to disclose that to answer my question. "In six months though, you can choose our qualifying plan."

Unionhawk

MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE BEING A CONTRACTOR

Yuuki

If in this same scenario, you and your spouse have billions in GDP, your income is dependent on the taxable income of everyone around you, and your spending drives up the rate of investment in your neighbors, then yeah Congress is exactly like you and your spouse.

Unionhawk

Dammit @TimStone

Yuuki

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP PUSHING THE "GOVERNMENT IS A HOUSEHOLD" CONCEPT EVEN THOUGH IT'S STUPID AS F--K.

MadMAxJr

Being a contractor was some of my darkest days. You really feel like you should have an asset tag on the back of your hand.

Unionhawk

18:11

@Yuuki I blame @TimStone

Officially

Yuuki

(I know why, it's a rhetorical question)

But still.

Unionhawk

@MadMAxJr Just, like, an Agent 47 barcode or something

MadMAxJr

"Contractor 47, you are due for refurb."

Then they just ka-thunk you in the head with the iron bar gun like a cow and bring the next developer in.

Hmm. That might be a little too dark for this channel. Sorry.

BlueBarren

._.

MadMAxJr

I was a disposable contractor in six month bursts for a while. It's a personal hell being informed 'You're cheap disposable labor, and if I don't see results, we just term your contract early. Get to work.'

The insurance available while contracting wouldn't cover half of what I need either.

BlueBarren

18:24

@MadMAxJr was this the same job that caused you to go to the ER multiple times? :o

Ronan

@Ash It was my idea but a bunch of people (especially @Avery and @Frank) helped organise it.

Avery

I'm was the only one who was crazy enough to use irc (no offense toxicfrog)

BlueBarren

@Avery irc?

ToxicFrog

Internet Relay Chat.

Avery

I can't bother with explaining so have a random tv show explain it with drug boats

Numb3rs' description of IRC

►

ToxicFrog

18:29

The precursor to browser-based chatrooms like this one.

(I am connecting from IRC right now!)

MadMAxJr

@BlueBarren This is after I was laid off from the service desk that sent me to the ER for panic attacks 3 times.

The Old Ones of the internet don't leave IRC, ever. They merely build bridge connectors to whatever newfangled tool you claim is good for chat.

New on Github: IRC <---> Singular Unified Conciousness 0.7b bridge connector

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog uh Internet Relay Chat?

badp

@Avery hey at least the picture looks like it was made by someone who HAS ever seen an Irssi window

BlueBarren

So like MSN then?

Avery

I remember mirc from early 2000s

badp

18:33

@BlueBarren pls

Kevin van der Velden

@BlueBarren sets fire to BlueBarren

BlueBarren

I mean is it not...?

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren it predates MSN by a decade

And is an open protocol

Kevin van der Velden

Only a decade?

Avery

Irc is much more simple

BlueBarren

18:33

but it's the same concept?

or?

ToxicFrog

And is oriented towards group rooms like this one rather than 1-on-1 chats, although you can use it for both

BlueBarren

@Avery were you even born in the early 2000?

ToxicFrog

It's...a similar concept? MSN and other IM systems are geared towards 1:1 chats and persistent chatrooms, if supported at all, are an afterthought

Tim Stone

@KevinvanderVelden MSN Messenger was released in 1999, surprisingly enough

Kevin van der Velden

@Avery msn is way more limited in features (well, until the bloating that happens when you don't get rid of dead things)

ToxicFrog

18:34

IRC is designed around the idea of persistent chatrooms with 1:1 chats supported as well but not the main focus.

Avery

I used msn.

Kevin van der Velden

@TimStone yeahm 1988 vs 1999

Huh

Avery

Man, the animated emoticons.

BlueBarren

I think what I'm confused by is IRC it's own thing or a category of thing?

Avery

@BlueBarren i was born in 2000

It's it's own thing

It's a protocol

Unionhawk

18:35

hmm

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren it's its own thing.

BlueBarren

@Avery man remembering your age must be super easy

Avery

A standard

Unionhawk

office is apparently blocking the domain that holds ynab styles and scripts

Avery

@BlueBarren yuup

ToxicFrog

18:36

@BlueBarren Or rather, it's a specific protocol; there's lots of clients and servers implementing that protocol, and they can all talk to each other.

Unionhawk

lol

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog now when you say protocol I just think of HTTP

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren yeah, IRC is at the same layer.

It's a protocol for two computers to exchange chat messages.

Rather than using a web browser to talk to an HTTP daemon which then replies with web pages, you use an IRC client to talk to an IRC daemon which sends your messages to other users and replies to you with their messages.

BlueBarren

but when you use IRC are you using a specific app for that or what?

ToxicFrog

Yeah, but there's lots of different apps that all speak IRC.

Like, if you're browsing the web you can use Chrome, or Firefox, or Opera, or IE, or w3m, or lynx

If you're chatting on IRC you can use HexChat, or mIRC, or irccloud, or weechat, or irrsi

BlueBarren

18:38

so why use it over something like discord or se chat?

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog (where one computer is a server communicating with either other servers or other computers)

Avery

@BlueBarren actually we didn't bother setting up a discord bridge

Mad Scientist

@BlueBarren You'll have to take into account that IRC is older than any of the alternatives you can think of

MadMAxJr

Back in the days of old, I recall ICQ.....

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren there's a bunch of reasons. It's an open protocol, so anyone can host an IRC server; it's not tied to a specific company or hosting provider like StackExchange Chat, Slack, Discord etc are

user15026

18:39

@Ronan well I appreciate it more than I can word. It made me swear a bunch which is really a good thing because it means the happy has shorted out my ability to process

Kevin van der Velden

@MadMAxJr 7 years younger than IRC

ToxicFrog

It's much older, so there are well-established communities on IRC that does what they want; no-one's going to uproot a 20-year-old group of friends to move to a new protocol just because it's the new hotness.

BlueBarren

@Avery bridge as in a bridge or bridge as in The Bridge? (I may be getting confused now)

user15026

@BlueBarren because @ToxicFrog is going to be that person in that xkcd comic forever and for always

ToxicFrog

Back to the "open protocol" thing, the fact that it's open means there's lots of client options!

BlueBarren

18:40

@MadScientist new is better a lot of the time though so why not use some of the newer stuff?

user15026

@ToxicFrog which is nice when some of them decide not to support things like file exchange >.>

ToxicFrog

If you need or want a client that works well with a screen-reader, or can run in a terminal, or lets you customize the fonts and colours and logging and stuff, IRC gives you those options.

And stuff like chat.SE or Slack don't.

user15026

@BlueBarren because then you have to shift a whole bunch of people who already have an established line of communication that they all know how to use

user15026

@ToxicFrog also this!

Kevin van der Velden

If you want a client without ads or a server that doesn't log you those are options to

Avery

18:42

@BlueBarren bridge as in a bridge

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren like, from the point of view of one my IRC-centric circles of friends, if we moved to, say, Slack, the advantage is that...we can now inline images, and the emoji are prettier. And there's server-side logging.

BlueBarren

@Ash this probably isn't the case with IRC but I had/am still trying to do that with Skype. RIP me

Why do people want to keep using skype?

ToxicFrog

And the disadvantages is that everyone loses their client setups, their logging, the blind users probably drop out entirely because it's a pain to get slack to work with e-readers, other people drop out because they don't like chatting in the browser...

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog those are all things that IRC clients could do as well =p

Avery

Skype is centralized

Kevin van der Velden

18:42

(except logging, that'd be a server thing)

Avery

Irc is decentalized

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden my point is that IRC clients do do all those things; read it again.

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog and the advantages of not moving?

Kevin van der Velden

@Avery can be, servers are required

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren well, for starters, we don't lose a big chunk of the community due to no longer being able to access chat in a way that's comfortable to them

user15026

18:43

@ToxicFrog he was replying to your stack advantages message

Avery

Oh

BlueBarren

@Avery so what do you mean by a discord bridge then?

ToxicFrog

To me that's a reasonable argument all on its own.

@Avery aah

Kevin van der Velden

@BlueBarren a means of letting people talking on IRC talk on discord at the same time

i.e. it bridges discord and IRC

Avery

@KevinvanderVelden That's what I meant by decentralized. Many servers at different locations, and you can set up your own too.

ToxicFrog

18:44

@KevinvanderVelden slack-style emoji are trickier because it requires some agreement between clients on which emoji are supported. You're right about image inlining. Server side logging is actually being worked on with the IRC3 protocol.

user15026

@BlueBarren something that goes between discord and IRC, kinda like how @ToxicFrog connects to SE chat through IRC

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog is that seriously an issue nowadays?

Kevin van der Velden

@Avery yeah, not strictly speaking decentralized though

Ronan

@Ash Hehe thanks! You'd be surprised how easy it was to get people to chip in for you.

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren is what?

Losing chunks of the community?

user15026

18:45

@BlueBarren uh yes accessibility is still a huge issue lots of places

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog if a server wants ic could just send a log of the last N messages on log-in I suppose

There'd be no time stamp or anything

user15026

@Ronan I am startled and amazed that so many did.

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog not being willing to change to something newer that potentially better or at least not worse

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden the bit that IRC3 adds is standardized timestamp handling

Kevin van der Velden

aah

BlueBarren

18:45

@Ash what's more accessible then something that runs through a web browser?

ToxicFrog

I believe ZNC and weechat-relay already support that if the client asks for it

user15026

@BlueBarren you don't understand, though - a lot of that stuff doesn't handle accessibility like screen reading etc well

ToxicFrog

Not sure if any ircds do yet

@BlueBarren for starters, anything that runs in a terminal is going to be way better for screenreaders than the browser

I know a bunch of blind users on IFMUD who pretty much just use IFMUD and IRC because Slack, chat.SE, etc are a total shitshow for them.

Kevin van der Velden

So, I read there's a IRC<->Chat.se bridge somewhere? :o

user15026

@BlueBarren you haven't ever had to use anything like screen reading or anything like that for adaptability for disability have you?

BlueBarren

18:46

@Ash no I really don't understand xD What do you mean when you talk about the accessibility of screen reading?

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden yeah, I wrote it a month or two ago

Kevin van der Velden

Is it available somewhere? :o

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren screen readers are programs that read the text on the screen out loud so blind people can use the computer

user15026

@BlueBarren blind users etc use screen readers to read things out loud

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden github.com/toxicfrog/seirc

BlueBarren

18:47

but doesn't Windows have built in stuff to do that?

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog Sweet!

ToxicFrog

It's kind of janky but works well enough for daily use, although there's a bunch more fixes I have in the pipeline.

BlueBarren

there should be a text to speak there, no?

Kevin van der Velden

@BlueBarren yeah, that barely works for windows apps and not at all for browsers

Avery

It does, but it's a bit and miss

ToxicFrog

18:47

@BlueBarren yes, but as we keep saying, it doesn't work equally well for all programs

BlueBarren

So I guess you have more consistency when it's built for the app in question?

ToxicFrog

Also, an IRC client can be customized to understand what you want out of a screen reader and present the chat in a way that works best with that

chat.SE can't

Dragonrage

@Ronan it only took like what 2 days to contact people

Avery

Also people please view the server

ToxicFrog

Like, if you're using hexchat or something, you can ditch the OS-provided screen reader entirely and use an IRC-specific plugin that will read things out as "BlueBarren says, ..." rather than "less than blue barren greater than tab ..."

BlueBarren

18:51

IRC just sounds like something for super hardcore chat users then

user15026

@Avery may I have a link to proper thank people?

ToxicFrog

(or as "user image at sign blue barren ..." if you hook a screenreader up to chat.SE)

MadMAxJr

Still waiting on IRC <-> Clay Tablet

BlueBarren

and more accessible stuff

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren I'm not sure I'd describe it as "

MadMAxJr

18:52

Back in IRC, we slapped people with a trout when we needed discipline!

ToxicFrog

"super hardcore". There is a higher barrier to entry, in that you actually need a client and need to know what server(s) you want to chat on rather than just going to a web page and being right there in chat.

(although there are services like irccloud that do something similar to that)

But it's not some arcane ancient technology accessible only to the technopriesthood either.

For my part, consistency is a huge part of it. I'm on two IRC networks, two slacks, one MUD, twitter, hangouts, and chat.SE, and all of those connect to my IRC client -- which means I have one consistent central place where all my chat comes, and it all uses the same fonts and the same colours and the same keyboard shortcuts and the same logging.

I don't have to keep hopping between multiple web pages that all look completely different and have completely different layouts and fonts and user interfaces and text formatting rules and and and

Avery

@Ash check steam please

BlueBarren

huh

ToxicFrog

There's a reason I only showed up in the bridge like once a year prior to writing the chat.SE<->IRC bridge.

BlueBarren

you're starting to make this seem like a good idea

or more appealing?

probably more appealing

ToxicFrog

18:56

@BlueBarren I mean, if you're just on chat.SE and you're ok with that, moving to IRC is probably a step back, because you lose things like user images and message edits and reply linking.

Where it gets more appealing is when you're on half a dozen different chat networks and none of them will talk to each other but all of them will, or can be made to, talk to IRC.

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog nothing is more active than chat.SE for me

ToxicFrog

Back in the IM days you had clients like Trillian that boasted the ability to talk to AIM, MSN, ICQ, etc. all in one client, so you got that consistency, but there's no similar client for, say, chat.SE, Slack, and Discord today.

Yuuki

@ToxicFrog Clearly the solution is to not talk to these other people. We're obviously the most important group in the world and you should focus your attention solely on us.

ToxicFrog

(...as far as I know

MadMAxJr

I remember trillian.

Then I jumped to Pidgin.

Now most of the other services are dead or trying to eliminate 3rd party clients.

user15026

19:00

@Avery I saw, thanks! For some reason steam notifs were broken

Avery

Same here.

They've been pretty unreliable lately.

user15026

@ToxicFrog I am many the happy that you are here more now because you are good people.

MadMAxJr

I am neutral people with good intent.

Yuuki

I, on the other hand, am bad in tents.

S'why I don't like camping.

MadMAxJr

I had to read that twice. Oww.

BlueBarren

19:02

same

sighing @Yuuki intensifies

Dragonrage

well done @Yuuki

it wasnt @GodEmperorDune @Wipqozn or I that made people groan this time

BlueBarren

@Yuuki definitely makes me groan considerably more than @GodEmperorDune, @Wipqozn or you @Dragonrage

take that statement as you will

Avery

@Yuuki is secretly a bridge dad

Yuuki

Speaking of tents...

BlueBarren

when was the last time @Sterno told a ~~good~~ dad joke?

user15026

19:05

@Yuuki no yuuki bad yuuki no cookie for you

Dragonrage

@BlueBarren that just means im more funny

MBraedley

@Yuuki ...Is that a disco ball?

BlueBarren

@Dragonrage I fail to see this logic

Avery

Bahahaha @yuuki all your cookies are belong to us now

Yuuki

> Now is the winter of our disco tent.

MBraedley

19:06

@BlueBarren Is there any such thing as "a good dad joke"?

Yuuki

@MBraedley I mean, I guess it depends on how you parse "good dad joke".

BlueBarren

@MBraedley I fixed it

MBraedley

@Yuuki touche

Yuuki

It could either be good dad joke or good dad joke. And if you're Yoda, I guess it could be good joke, dad.

BlueBarren

SIGHING INTENSIFIES @YUUKI

Unionhawk

19:10

no

I tried to parse that last one for like 45 seconds and no

BlueBarren

Beating Dark Souls

Yuuki

@BlueBarren I don't even think ants can read that.

BlueBarren

@Yuuki I would try zooming in

Yuuki

Hmm... I wonder why my browser zoom moved to 50% just for that link.

ToxicFrog

Is \vince the new \expandingbrain?

Yuuki

19:19

@ToxicFrog If he/it is, that's weird because he/it was also the old expanding brain.

ToxicFrog

Aah, point.

Unionhawk

19:32

Arg what why is rebuild failing so catastrophically

Dragonrage

@Unionhawk because it broke?

Unionhawk

It looks like it's going

It apparently didn't like me having the 2 other solutions running this time

MadMAxJr

Here is a chart proving that if you're American and 30+ you statistically have no friends to hang out with. theatlas.com/charts/HJFYm4uQ-

BlueBarren

@MadMAxJr are you telling me I'm only allowed to spend 9 more years with my friends?

MadMAxJr

I'm not saying it, MATH is.

Yuuki

19:37

@MadMAxJr Tbf, if you're spending 8 hours a day with friends, that probably means you're unemployed and your friends are also unemployed.

BlueBarren

@Yuuki tbf = To be @Frank?

MadMAxJr

@Yuuki True. But at least then we'd be able to schedule a regular weekly roleplay game.

Yuuki

@BlueBarren Not yet.

BlueBarren

@Yuuki but aren't the increments of alone time measured in 8 hours intervals as well?

Yuuki

@BlueBarren Huh? As far as I'm aware, the bar is 8 hours and it's a yes or no question.

The y axis is number of friends/family/coworkers/etc. with whom you spend 8+ hours.

And x axis is how old you are.

BlueBarren

19:40

@Yuuki no it's hours

MadMAxJr

That's 2/4/6/8 hours

I think?

Charts are confusing and can only hurt me.

BlueBarren

yes

Yuuki

They need better labeling on those axes.

BlueBarren

agreed

MadMAxJr

Lets label them with real axes.

BlueBarren

19:41

I can't even confirm the x axis is actually age

Yuuki

"8 hours per day (2003-2015)" looks like a subtitle, not an axis label.

MadMAxJr

There is a tiny misalignment between the 8 and the h that tells me the 8 is on the axis.

Yuuki

Even then, "Hours per day (2003 - 2015)" should be left of the y-axis and centered vertically.

Unionhawk

and using that misalignment we can get 73 units higher than normal

I mean what

Yuuki

Just to be clear that it's not a subtitle.

GodEmperorDune

19:43

@Yuuki HUE

BlueBarren

download the csv file

MadMAxJr

Oh look as you get older you get more alone.

Time to build an army of unstoppable killbots who like me.

Yuuki

@MadMAxJr Are you prioritizing the "killbot", the "unstoppable", or the "like me" part?

Unionhawk

I'd go with "like me" "killbot" and "unstoppable", but I could be talked into swapping unstoppable to 2nd place

MadMAxJr

Robots that unstoppably like me with a part time hobby in killing all humans.

Yuuki

19:57

When people say "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely", this is what they mean.

4

BlueBarren

@MadMAxJr now when you say "all humans"..?

Unionhawk

tfw find references crashes visual studio :(

MadMAxJr

20:14

Visual Studio crashes Visual Studio.

(Would you like to debug this crash?)

BlueBarren

Oh boy guys, Destiny 2 is going to have a story!

Bungie says it's the biggest change from Destiny to Destiny 2

Dragonrage

i got the free preorder of destiny 2 with my gpu

BlueBarren

Did you play Destiny 1?

or will this be your first time being disappointed?

Dragonrage

i have not played destiny 1

though i could go play on my brothers ps4 if i can make another character

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Super smash flash 2 beta

I was playing solo on training, and I saw that there were no smash balls. I went to the item list to see if it was there, but I couldn't find a way to summon it. My question is: when will the smash balls (once again) be a part of the game?

super-smash-flash-2

0

Q: Trick Question Can GTAV handle multiple players on one system?

All you have to do is answer the question with a fact about the game and I will correct anything that isn't an acceptable answer.

pc gta-online

BlueBarren

20:26

@Lazers2.0 what would you even flag this as?

DanmakuGrazer

Unclear what you're asking

BlueBarren

ah okay

Unionhawk

I don't understand what is even happening

user15026

Nothing is happening. Hug guns have happened.

SaintWacko

@Ash A well-aimed shot

Kevin van der Velden

20:33

@Lazers2.0 wat

Unionhawk

@KevinvanderVelden I don't even know

MadMAxJr

Destiny 1, Bill Wurtz Style: Hi, here's a tower with some cool dudes. Peter Dinklage was here, but he's gone now. Speeder bike races. Shoot a lot of aliens to get new guns to shoot new aliens to get new guns to shoot new aliens.... Uh oh. That alien is mad. Real mad.

user15026

@SaintWacko thank you, I've been practicing!

Unionhawk

I assume he was looking for someone posts something that isn't 100% technically correct "HAHA! YOU FOOL! YOU ABSOLUTE DUNCE! YOU FAILED TO REALIZE <other possible solution that makes the answer "yes">"

But, sadly, will never have it

rip

Arperum

@Ash No hug gunning @worldengineer though. Just hugging a lot.

Kevin van der Velden

20:38

I mean this is a thing so you can play it with 10 gamers on one system

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: Help Me My 3Ds says I don't have space when I have a 4GB SD card!

So I have a 4GB SD card but when I try to update a game on my 3Ds it always says that I don't have enough blocks... I check in the Nintendo eShop and it says I need so and so blocks to update this game.... but... I look in my Data Management to see if I can delete anything... there is NOTHING in ...

3ds

0

Q: If a deleted my character on gta 5 by accident how do I get my character back?

Delete my account by accident how do I get It back

ps4

Unionhawk

@KevinvanderVelden my alternate theory is he was going to turn around with "HAHA TECHNICALLY GTA V ISNT MULTIPLAYER YOU LOSE"

Who knows

Yuuki

So it turns out the reason why I'm getting a visual bug is because the visual items are ordered in the complete opposite manner in this second collection.

:/

Wipqozn

20:55

@Unionhawk Yes

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Share games between PSN users

It's been a while that I'm buying my games from PSN store. In every games I saw there is description which says "2/n Network players". As far as I know this option let us to share our games between friends, am I right? If yes, does the friend can play the game completely? I mean he/she can pla...

ps4 psn

Yuuki

Yeah, so the index from the first collection doesn't match up to the other collection.

:(

On the bright side, there's still correspondence so I can use (secondCollection.length - 1) - firstIndex to find the index of the item in the second collection.

Still ugh though.

murgatroid99

That looks fragile

If you know secondCollection corresponds to firstCollection, but in reverse order, why not just work with a reversed copy of secondCollection?

Yuuki

Because I have to manipulate elements in secondCollection.

murgatroid99

And how did you get yourself into a state where you have two collections that you know have exactly corresponding items, but in reverse order?

Yuuki

21:07

@murgatroid99 I clicked on "work on this ticket" and found this.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki Work with a reversed copy of firstCollection, then?

Yuuki

I need to manipulate elements in both collections.

And I don't think they're actually reversed. It's just rendering order has resulted in this.

murgatroid99

If it's not actually reversed, the index formula above shouldn't work in general

Yuuki

They're both rendered first-to-last. It just so happens that secondCollection is rendered left-to-right and firstCollection is rendered bottom-to-top.

Yep, that's the case. Change doesn't fix the issue I'm running into.

Actually, I'm not exactly sure how to fix this or whether it really needs to be fixed.

Kaz Wolfe

SNES classic in September.

Sniping bots are already being built.

MadMAxJr

21:21

What's the solution to controlled scarcity? AUTOMATION!

Kaz Wolfe

the solution is to knock over all the retailer's servers with my own purchase requests.

And then sell them all on eBay for $85.99

Yuuki

I wonder if all of these sniping bots are hosted together or in clusters.

user15026

@WorldEngineer bought me the best best mug today.

user15026

Heck yes, it's the right way around now

SaintWacko

21:33

@Ash There we go

@Ash I like it :D

user15026

It just makes me giggle because it is the best mug for me

MadMAxJr

21:51

.... Are you in fact, a wifi point?

Yuuki

It might be one of those situations where the hardware is installed but the drivers haven't been written yet.

Damn. Not only did he not install it, he sutured a 'Vista-Ready' sticker onto my arm.

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Frank

Okay.

All paperwork signed and ready to go.

Just need super large check from lender, and new house is a go on Saturday.

GodEmperorDune

@MadMAxJr did you not know? It was pinned and everything when they told us

@Frank they actually do a physical check? Like the sweepstakes winner ones?

Frank

@GodEmperorDune Large as in amount. Not physcially large.

Dragonrage

@Frank thats disappointing. it would be so much more fun if your lender gave you a giant check like you won the jackpot

Frank

22:04

@Dragonrage That doesn't help me. I still have to deposit it.

Dragonrage

hmm, yea the bank might not be so happy if you tried to deposit it. also it probably wouldnt fit in an atm

MadMAxJr

See I don't want an RJ-45 jack installed on my neck in case those really cool four-plug Ghost in the Shell:SAC jacks come to market.

@Frank I assume houses are a bit more complicated than a PG kit?

Frank

@MadMAxJr A little. And rather more expensive.

PG kits can be bought with a minimum of fuss.

I've signed so many documents for this thing I see paper in my sleep.

Dragonrage

i had to sign a 72 page document the other day

and i wasnt even buying anything

GodEmperorDune

@Frank wat? not electronic yet?

Frank

22:07

@GodEmperorDune Nope. All hard copy.

GodEmperorDune

i dunno why that stuff is still hard copy

Dragonrage

all of my documents for buying my car were electronic on a board

it was kinda cool

Lazers 2.0

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Q: PS4 account shared among other users

My son shared his account to several players, those players made charges in to his account and credit card, so to whom these purchases are credited, to my son account or to the other players account?

ps4

Dragonrage

i wonder who regularly does more documents. real estate agents or car dealerships

Frank

@Dragonrage Seeing as I've signed at least a dozen documents for this house process, and probably closer to two, I'd assume real estate agents.

Dragonrage

22:15

i feel like more people buy cars than houses though

and i probably had like 8 or so documents to sign

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage probably depends on the area

southern california will definitely be more cars

but it would be much more housing in someplace like new york city

Dragonrage

yea prolly

Frank

And in prairie country, by the capital city, it'll probably be close to even.

Wipqozn

wtf capcom

The sale on Mega Man Legacy Collection ended mid way through the sale

okay well, fuck you then Capcom? Roms it is?

I don't understand how Capcom has so much trouble with basic competency

Yuuki

@Wipqozn They both have a pathological aversion to money and require it to survive.

Wipqozn

22:26

@Yuuki Seems like it

Yuuki

Nintendo has a minor case of this same syndrome.

Memor-X

22:43

So been watching a bunch of videos about this Alex Mauer thing that's been happening......i think i'm not in the correct world in which someone is making Digital Homicide look sane in comparison

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn i reported you to the steam police. gaben is coming for you now

Frank

I'm with @Wipqozn. Capcom is so damn backwards when it comes to updating their classics that you get a much better experience from ROMs than official products.

Dragonrage

i have a name that is fairly commonly shortened, and i dont mind going by either the shortened version or the longer, but it bothers me that people automatically shorten it without asking if it is okay to shorten it

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage don't be so uptight, drgnrg

seriously though, why don't people ask first?

Dragonrage

thats not a shortening of my name. thats a murdering of my name

a shortening would be like Dragonrage-> Dragon or Dragonrage->Rage

GodEmperorDune

22:56

@Dragonrage vowels are for the weak

but perhaps you need to be pumped up a bit dr@g0nr@g3

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