The Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

2:00 PM

I have most of it connected via ethernet

Yuuki

@StrixVaria Geez, anyone injured or worse?

Kevin van der Velden

And by most I mean everything but the obvious (2ds,tablet,smartphone) and one raspi

Avery

Why 6 phones? Because both adults need 2 phones each to easily chat with people theyre cheating with and apparently a 5yo kid needs a phone. Dont have much to say about the 10yo one though)

Arperum

@Avery So no printers at all?

StrixVaria

@Yuuki Doesn't sound like it.

Avery

2:01 PM

@Arperum usb lazerjet

StrixVaria

I guess my initial message on the topic sounded a little heartless without that extra info.

People were jarred around but it was at a low speed.

Arperum

Russia is currently having a deadlier case.

23 mins ago, by Nzall

Live updates: Twin explosions rock metro station in St. Petersburg, Russia, leaving at least 10 dead… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/848879203386830848

Tweeted by CNN on April 3, 2017 at 12:45 PM

Avery

why 5 tablets? Because apparently a 5yo ALSO needs a tablet, and 10yo needs two, while adults need one each.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum I have a printer! Well... pieces of it

Private Pansy

My techphobic parents have a phone and laptop each. That's it. I have a laptop, a desktop, a phone, another laptop and tablet on loan from the school, and a 3DS.

Avery

2:03 PM

Why 3 pcs? Because the pc bought by me 4 years ago is in dispute over the notsoadults and the one that didnt pay a dime will likely keep it. But yeah, they both also bought a pc to themselves.

Private Pansy

So I have more devices than both of them combined.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden I have a printer too! It's stuck without being connected to anything though.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum I has various laser related bits and stepper related bits

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Yea, but you're crazy.

djsmiley2k

@StrixVaria Also this. I mean, wtf Nintendo, r u 10?

Private Pansy

2:04 PM

KINGDOM HEARTS Orchestra -World Tour- FULL OST (Interactive)

►

SaintWacko

Hm, I have a PC, my work laptop, my Surface, my phone, a Nexus 7, an ESP8266, a RPi3, and a 3DS. And probably more I can't think of at the moment

Private Pansy

This is nice. Also neat (ab)use of YouTube's annotation syste

I'm also stuck at 1050 words on the 1500 words political science essay

Due tomorrow.

I'm so bad at this.

Arperum

I have barely anything connected to theinternet tbf: phone, pc, new3ds and two earlier incarnation that are unused.

@PrivatePansy 1500 word essay would have me screaming and running for my life.

Unionhawk

Oh shit

Original doge is RIP

:(

SaintWacko

@Unionhawk :(

Much mourning

Very sad

Private Pansy

2:10 PM

@Arperum 1500 isn't bad. It's quite hard to fit in everything into 1500 I'd say.

SaintWacko

Wow :(

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk but we still have this

Private Pansy

The pain is that it's political science. Which is an interesting topic, except I'm really not sure if I know what the heck I'm doing

The topic I picked is discussing "whether Trump is a legitimate President of the United States"

Nzall

@PrivatePansy you should, like, try and write it in the overly verbose and simplistic style that your president uses

You will probably get a few hundred words from that

Kevin van der Velden

@Nzall in Tony Tan Keng Yam's style?

Private Pansy

2:13 PM

@Nzall I'll probably get a zero, but it might be worth a laugh

Lazers 2.0

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Q: In the final fight with Ganon, can you leave?

In the final fight with beast Ganon, when you are on Hyrule field, can you just run away and leave Hyrule field? If yes, what happens to the boss fight? If no, what prevents you from leaving? PS: made the question title vague to prevent spoilers that theres a final fight with beast Ganon. Those ...

zelda-breath-of-the-wild

0

Q: Is there anything in the Colosseum?

I stumbled upon the colosseum in BotW. It seems to be an important place, but after killing the Lynel and a few ennemies, it seems there nothing else here, not even a Korok seed. Is there anything to do that I missed in the Colosseum, or is it just empty?

zelda-breath-of-the-wild

Private Pansy

"I've got legitimacy like you've never seen before, folks."

Unionhawk

Goddammit visual studio

When you fail to deploy because of a permissions issue on the target directory, something more than "cannot find the path" would be nice

(it can't find the path because it is not allowed to create the path)

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden Singapore's president is a purely ceremonial role, thankfully

Nzall

@KevinvanderVelden oh right, I meant Donald Trump

I can't remember who lives where for the most part. Fredley, Arperum and Kevin are the only ones for which I can remember it

and Avery

Kevin van der Velden

2:16 PM

@PrivatePansy wikipedia says the role has some power

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden Mostly ceremonial role, then

I know he has to authorize certain budgetary withdrawals, but otherwise it's mostly showing up on National Day, and visiting or receiving other country's dignitaries

Oh, and having a nice and pleasant smile, because him and the First Lady's portrait are suppose to grace every government institution

BlueBarren

@Unionhawk I have a similar issue and have just gotten used to the error

now whenever I see that I know to change users to someone who has the proper permissions

Unionhawk

I don't really have that luxury without just asking someone else to do it

Private Pansy

The problem is that, while there are a lot of things wrong with the US electoral system which are quite easy to pick apart, I'm not entirely sure how I can argue that that in itself would lead to the President being illegitimate

For instance, I have two paragraphs here talking about how undemocratic the electoral college is, but that in itself doesn't necessarily mean the president is illegitimate. Need to find a connection, somehow...

BlueBarren

@Unionhawk I'm sure in a normal environment I wouldn't either but because I'm technically IT and not a developer I get an admin user

Kevin van der Velden

2:23 PM

I don't think that's a valid reason to consider him illegitimate. It's a stupid system but it is the stupid system that is the law

SaintWacko

@PrivatePansy Right. Sadly, it appears that he is the legitimate president. The only thing that could maybe change that is evidence of foreign intervention, and even that doesn't seem to matter

BlueBarren

so I just install and do stuff I want a lot of the time

SaintWacko

The bigger question is whether he should be the president

Unionhawk

@BlueBarren I have local admin but not domain or even "write permissions on this server"

BlueBarren

@Unionhawk RIP, time to become hackerman

Private Pansy

2:24 PM

@KevinvanderVelden Mmmhmm, it doesn't make it illegal, but I don't want to argue that, because then the argument would quickly become tautological

Kevin van der Velden

You could take the approach of working under the assumption that the rumours are true and that as such him being helped by a foreign power makes him illegitmate

So a paper of "If this is true then these things follow"

Avery

damn

when I joined there were like 20 people

MBraedley

> 26.0 KB/second

why, network storage, why?

Private Pansy

I'm going to try to see if I can make a (probably overly simplistic) argument that a good deal of the electoral system are in fact deeply unpopular and historically flawed

(A 2011 Gallup poll shows that just 35% of those surveyed would opt to keep the Electoral College if they had a choice)

Unionhawk

Electoral college is bad, Bernie Sanders would have won. /essay

Boom

Private Pansy

2:34 PM

I mean, the Russian connection is strong in that it makes the most compelling case, but it's really quite simple to write, and it hinges on that big if of the campaign actually colluding, which is anybody's guess right now

I did make the somewhat weaker argument that Russian interference in itself has weakened the legitimacy of the election.

Also, I prefer the electoral system argument because, well, it's an area that has a lot more scholarly work done in it, and I can actually cite them

Arperum

goddammit. Found a bug in the old version of the framework this project uses. I fixed it in the framework, but now this project needs a framework update. And let that framework now have a backward compatibility break...

Private Pansy

For instance, here's an interesting journal article from 2002 about the connection between slavery and the electoral college people.uncw.edu/lowery/pls101/wilson_chapter_outlines/…

MBraedley

2:47 PM

IMHO, most of the individual design decisions (for lack of a better term) taken in the Electoral College are okay on their own, but taken together, it produces a system that is deeply flawed.

Kevin van der Velden

Gerrymandering ho

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden That's only the individual congressional districts. While it's a real problem, for the purpose of discussing the Presidential election, it's mostly irrelevant, except for the two states that assigns Electoral College votes based on congressional districts

Nebraska and Maine, I believe

Kevin van der Velden

Gerrymandering mostly makes the existing problems worse

Private Pansy

The big problem in terms of the Electoral College would be uneven voting power distribution. Essentially voters in most state shouldn't bother turning up - their votes are essentially meaningless

MBraedley

For instance, the fact that voters in small states have proportionally more power than voters in large states is by itself perhaps a good thing (although I'd argue that there should be less disparity), but when you combine it with the fact that the presidential election largely isn't a federal affair, but rather a state affair, you start unnecessarily amplifying the problems with the first bit.

Private Pansy

2:52 PM

@MBraedley That is one, but I'm more concerned about the obsession over swing states

Nzall

You can literally win the elections with only 20% of the popular vote, just by focusing on the small states

Arperum

@Nzall Wasn't it 22% ?

Nzall

@Arperum eh, close enough

Arperum

(which is still ridiculously stupid)

MBraedley

@Nzall But that's because of another decision, which again taken alone isn't absolutely horrible (just bad), which is state wide first past the post.

Kevin van der Velden

2:55 PM

21.91%

Private Pansy

I find Regan's "electoral vote landslide" of 1980 the best and funniest example

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy that's awful

MBraedley

Even district level electoral vote distribution wouldn't fix that.

Kevin van der Velden

Seriously america? 37.5% of the vote leading to about 3% of electoral votes?

MBraedley

My personal recommendation is that 1) the election of the president (and by extension the vice president) be nationalized, and 2) the electoral votes get distributed proportionally to candidates at the state level. That doesn't solve all the problems (Donald Trump probably would have still won, according to 538), but it mitigates a lot of the other problems.

Lazers 2.0

3:01 PM

2

Q: Do the deaths in the tutorial lock me out of "The Untouchables"?

Despite having already played a lot of XCOM 2, when I decided to start playing again, I was forced to do the tutorial (as the game was still installing at the time). During the tutorial, two squad members are scripted to die, since the tutorial forces you to make specific moves. That said, there...

achievements xcom-2

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley also legally hold presidents to the same standards you hold congress, don't assume they're not corrupt

Avery

soo

dominos fixed the bug I sent them

but didn't even send a mail thanking or acknowledging.

Kevin van der Velden

Boo

Unionhawk

Trump granted power to withdraw money from his businesses without disclosing it: report http://hill.cm/2VGtjwy https://t.co/EaH4NC2S1b

Tweeted by thehill on April 3, 2017 at 1:54 PM

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden The irony is that that is actually the job of the Electoral College

Unionhawk

3:08 PM

yaaaaaaaaaaaaay

YAAAAAAAAAAAY

Avery

even a single crappy dominos pizza would be accepted yo, or even a mail

Private Pansy

> The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

(the article is quoting Hamilton here)

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk gee I was thinking about typing "Because anyone who thinks trump is honest is deluding themselves" but figured it'd be too much

Unionhawk

Yep

@KevinvanderVelden anyone who thinks Trump is honest is deluding themselves