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1:03 PM
@KevinvanderVelden once I finish up FMAB I'll e getting back to that.
Still only on the second book.
I blame @Sternold.
 
@Wipqozn I'll probably be on the second book sometime this week
 
Speaking of @Sterno, how's Baby No.2 doing?
 
He's awesome at crying.
Gold medal.
 
@KevinvanderVelden What other books did you die?
@Sterno Could he out-cry @StrixVaria's baby?
 
@Wipqozn I don't have the necessary data points to speculate.
 
1:05 PM
The only solution is to hold a baby cry-off
 
Cinda williams chima's Demon King and Kate Elliot's Spirit gate
 
@TimStone yup, exactly what I was thinking.
I suggest we start with a cry off, followed by a poop off.
MAY THE BEST BABY WIN!
 
Divinity just locked up while saving my game. That's NOT when I want a lock-up :(
 
@Sterno How rude.
 
The cry-off has to come after the neglect-off.
 
1:06 PM
@Wipqozn The attempt to poop is usually what causes the crying.
 
Hopefully your save file doesn't become corrupt and you lose all your progress.
 
You're so bad at room ownership.
 
@StrixVaria I'm fine with any order so long as we have a baby fight.
 
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Rawr. Between me being away and the upstairs people being away it has been like three weeks since we were all here at the same time and I forgot how bloody much they scream stuff at each other.
 
1:07 PM
@AshleyNunn You should probably burn down their house.
 
user15026
@wipqozn but then I would have no house.
 
@AshleyNunn Just burn the top half of the house.
 
@AshleyNunn new plan: You should probably burn down your upstairs neighbours
 
@Sterno From what we know, @StrixVaria's baby is an adept pooper.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, but this is @Sterno's second baby, so he's probably become more skilled in the art of baby making and training.
 
1:09 PM
We're still learning, but yesterday we learned what @Sterno just said. Sometimes crying means that you need to poop.
 
@Wipqozn Baby Making and Baby Training are completely different skill sets, unless you belong in prison.
Kids in the newborn stage cry for 5 reasons:
1) Hungry
2) Need a new diaper
3) Need to burp
4) Need to poop
5) Saw a picture of @wipqozn
 
@Sterno So we only knew about 1, 2, and 5. I was like "it's a short checklist; and we've got them all covered. Why are you still crying? :("
 
@Sterno you forgot "because fuck you"
 
@Rapitor Yeah, I try not to think about that one. Those nights are awful
 
Actually they also cry if they're too cold, like if you take them soaking wet out of a bath because you need to rest for 2 seconds and you can't let go of their head or they'll drown.
 
1:12 PM
@StrixVaria You can usually help with #3 but not #4, and it's the worst.
 
wait, you guys have both shown your kids pictures of me as a shining example of excellence?
 
@Wipqozn I was trying to make him poop.
 
@Wipqozn To know what something is, you need to know what it isn't
 
@Sterno and succeeded only in making him cry?
 
@KevinvanderVelden The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
1:13 PM
Or was there poop involved with showing @Wipqozn?
@Sterno hence the only
 
To be fair my baby (who is older than @Sterno's) still doesn't really "look" at things.
 
wtf Binding of Isaac
 
I seem to remember it's around 3 months or so when they start to actually recognize faces and things
 
I have "Cains Eye" twice in the secret list
 
From what I understand, and this age they can barely make out things right in front of their face
 
1:14 PM
Even if I showed her a picture of @Wipqozn she wouldn't "see" it.
@Sterno All they can tell, I've heard, is big contrasts of light.
So brightly backlit things causing silhouettes are awesome.
 
Yeah. And they like black and white patterns
 
Everything else is nothing.
 
It seems like every time I'm going overseas I'll fall sick
 
> At birth, babies' vision is abuzz with all kinds of visual stimulation. While they may look intently at a highly contrasted target, babies have not yet developed the ability to easily tell the difference between two targets or move their eyes between the two images. Their primary focus is on objects 8 to 10 inches from their face or the distance to parent's face.
 
@PrivatePansy How convenient.
 
1:16 PM
I have 95/97 secrets and I'm missing Caves Boy, Mamas Boy and Platinum God
 
The last time I was going back to China I had a 38.5 degree fever just 48 hours from the flight
@Wipqozn Exactly the opposite, given that the plans and everything have been made already, and the flight dates are rather inflexible
 
@StrixVaria Your baby is going to be boring for a while (unless you count the stress as not-boring), then get interesting for a bit at around 3-4 months when she starts reacting to you and giggling and stuff, then boring again, then interesting again when she starts crawling, terrifying a bit after that when she starts walking, and then super awesome when she starts talking
 
@Sterno How long until the talking begins?
 
@Sterno WHAT IS SKYDRIFT'S FAVORITE THING TO SAY?
BESIDES "NO"
 
@Sterno Talking sounds awesome.
 
1:18 PM
@OrigamiRobot I bet it's Skydrift.
 
I'm just going to curl up in bed and hope not too much of my snot falls on the Twilight plush I'm hugging
 
@Wipqozn I don't remember. They get a few words here and there but the multiple words together is like 18 months or something. THough sign language early on can be kind of cool
 
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@Sterno I KNOW SOMEONE WHO DID THIS AND IT WAS SUPER COOL
 
@agent86 That's so adorable.
 
1:19 PM
@OrigamiRobot Well, if I can't count "no" or its variations, probably "Mac and cheese!"
 
@Sterno YOU GOT A KEEPER
 
"I swimmin'" when she starts doing the breast stroke in the empty bathtub after we've drained it, because she doesn't want to get out yet, is probably second place.
 
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@Sterno That's pretty adorable.
 
@Sterno THIS IS ADORABLE
 
1:21 PM
@OrigamiRobot I don't think he gets much of a choice there.
 
my daughter prefers "cat" and if you pet her head she starts to go "mrow"
 
@FEichinger SURE HE DOES
 
of course "cat" also means "I want to watch Peg + Cat"
 
@FEichinger Of course he does!
Kids have a 3 year return policy on them, right?
 
but usually for me it's some variation of "NO DADDEE"
 
1:21 PM
ABANDONMENT TAKESIES-BACKSIES IS ALWAYS AN OPTION
 
ie, I ask for a hug and it's like NO
 
Takesies-backsies are always in play.
 
get back, you terrible, smelly beast!
although she's learning her numbers now. everything above 5 is just 9 though.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9
 
@Wipqozn You have to negotiate with the manufacturers about that
 
@agent86 For us it's more like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 9, 5, 9, 5, 9, 4, 5, 9
 
1:23 PM
@PrivatePansy That sounds like a huge hassle.
 
@Sterno sage dad nod
 
Your kids can't count to 10? dude, I can count to, like, a million billion.
 
@Wipqozn DO IT
 
@Sterno I ALREADY DID!
I was just too fast for you to process it.
 
1:24 PM
@Wipqozn You ready?
 
I thought I had a joke to go with that but it turns out I don't.
 
wait, what? I was a room owner?
ooooh
 
Yes. I made you room owner about an hour ago. Keep up.
or 18 minutes ago
 
you added me. Given the context I just assumed I was removed.
 
whenever
 
1:25 PM
Well, guess you're not ready then.
 
I'm pretty sure I've been removed from ownership about 3 times as many as I've been added.
 
I'm not sure that math works
 
I'm pretty sure it is.
I can count to a million billion, so my maths trumps your maths.
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in Board and Card Games, Dec 26 '12 at 22:47, by OrigamiRobot
@StrixVaria IM SORRY YOU TAPPED OUT ON TURN TWO NOW TAKE 20
 
1:28 PM
Metroid Prime is awesome, and I need to play more of it.
 
THIS IS STILL IN BCG'S STAR LIST
NEARLY 2 YEARS!
 
@OrigamiRobot That's so sad.
I'm always surprised they still exist.
in Board and Card Games, Nov 29 '12 at 17:27, by Wipqozn
whoa, the last star in this room is from October? We need to fix that.
only 3 messages on the list were posted this year.
 
Well at least in Minecraft Talk the oldest starred message is only from the 24th of january
 
@KevinvanderVelden Is that because your screen is in portrait and you can see a shitton of them, or because you fail at months?
 
@Arperum no because I misread the u for an a
DISREGARD
 
1:36 PM
"fail at months" it is, then.
 
@KevinvanderVelden THEN YOU ARE EVEN WRONGER. Because the oldest is from june 22nd
 
@KevinvanderVelden JUNUARY
 
@Arperum jun 8
I just read the bottom one =[
 
@OrigamiRobot JUNUURY
 
@KevinvanderVelden I'm also a blind idiot, may 8th.
 
1:38 PM
Le sigh
WE ARE THE WORST AT DATES APPARENTLY
 
Indeed.
 
@Frank I CAN TELL YOU'RE NOT TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY.
@KevinvanderVelden YOU DESERVE TO BE BANNED FOR THIS
 
@OrigamiRobot For the "Le sigh"? Yes
 
@OrigamiRobot We're deliberately misspelling month names. I'm not sure how serious that can get.
 
UNLESS IT'S A PEPE LE PEW REFERENCE.
 
1:40 PM
It is not, intentionally
 
THEN BANNING IS THE ONLY RECOURSE!
LET'S BAN @Frank WHILE WE'RE AT IT
IN FACT, LET'S JUST DELETE THIS WHOLE ROOM
GAME OVER
 
@OrigamiRobot We'd certainly be more productive, that's for sure.
 
DON'T BAN THIS ROOM WHEN THE LAST MESSAGE IS IN ALL CAPS
 
I'M SURE MORE THAN HALF OF US WOULD JUST FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON ANOTHER ROOM
 
I don't want my last words to be incoherent screams of terror into the metaphorical void
 
1:42 PM
IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO GO?
 
@OrigamiRobot Coherent screams?
 
i'd find other ways to not be productive
 
BoardGames.SE is like a lame BoardGameGeek
 
@Sterno BoardGameGeek is probably part of the reason BGSE never took off.
 
Well, the experts have no incentive to switch sites.
Half the answers just seem to be "This guy on BGG says..."
"Let me BGG that for you..."
 
1:55 PM
@Sterno AND WHAT ISN'T ON BGG IS A MTG QUESTION
I AM CONVINCED THE ONLY REASON THE MTG PROPOSAL WAS STOPPED WAS BECAUSE BCG WOULD DIE WITHOUT MTG QUESTIONS
 
19 hours ago, by Frank
Sid Meier’s Civilization: Beyond Earth for $37.50 after coupon (normally $50)
Still ongoing!
 
It seems like after 2+ years, you should either come out of beta or die
 
@Sterno Yeah, BGG is unique in that it's a forum which isn't complete crap.
Arqade took off since the only other major alternative was GameFaqs and GameFaqs forums are terrible. The users are extremely hostile. The community is so hostile.
 
And because I'm here. I'm awesome.
 
@Sterno NO, BETA FOREVAH
 
1:58 PM
@Frank And where do I find said coupon? your link takes me to Greenmangaming and it's 50 euros.
 
@Arperum It's in the next chat message.
 
Check the context
 
19 hours ago, by Frank
Use Coupon: 01S6ZC-JVSB28-JRW7X4
 
@Sterno I've often wondered why they haven't axed BGSE yet. I'm assuming if it's because they don't want to kill what info the do have.
 
1:59 PM
@KevinvanderVelden CONTEXT IS OVERRATED
 
It's still terrible that the whole $1 = €1 is still going on.
 
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Q: Why are we still in Beta?

ire_and_cursesI've read the meta discussion at What are the success criteria for an area 51 beta site, as well as the blog post When will my site graduate? Neither of these helps me understand why Board and Card Games continues to languish in beta status. As of this writing, we've been in beta for 1157 days. ...

That just happened to be their top of the page meta post
 
It would probably be a better deal if someone else bought it for me and I payed them or something. Stupid currency bullshit.
 
@Sterno I laughed when he started talking about bikes.
iirc Bikes got pushed through due to a bike following in the SE team.
They just don't get enough questions.
 
2:05 PM
Ugh this question
20
Q: How can I play games with closed information with players who cheat?

user1873Some would call it cheating. The perpetrators sometimes call it creative play. These players are the kind of people who think it is ok to peek at the bottom card while shuffling a poker deck to give themselves an edge, or glance at the cards in player's hands seated next to them when that player ...

 
@Sterno Answer: don't play with them.
 
He apparently went through and deleted every single comment he had on the questions and answers, of which there were many.
It's less fun to read now
 
@Sterno Did he not agree with not playing with those people? Or what went on?
 
2:25 PM
Wow, the latest Ars Technica God Box is nearly $18,000
 
@Sterno Who did?
 
@MBraedley 8x16GB RAM.
I can't even fill up 16GB, let alone 128GB.
 
@Frank that's easy... many instances of minecraft servers
 
FAE
heya Bridge
 
FAE
2:31 PM
I'm home now from the stuff I had to do today and all I want to do is go out geocaching...
 
0
Q: What exactly is the gold covetous serpent ring?

JoshI have the gold covetous serpent ring does it do anything else other then item discovery increase?

 
@FAE Well, you need your fix... right?
 
@Rapitor Because you're going to be running a full up server on your local machine.
 
Morning, Bridge
 
@FAE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
 
FAE
2:38 PM
@OrigamiRobot I knoooooooooooooooow! D:
 
@FAE I KNOW THE FEEL, BUT IT'S TOO HOT HERE TO EVEN GO
I CAN'T WAIT FOR FALL
 
FAE
@OrigamiRobot I'm kind of apprehensive about fall because fall in the Netherlands == tons of spiders. So. Many. Spiders.
 
@Powerlord User1873
 
@FAE HOW MANY POISONOUS SPIDERS ARE OVER THERE?
 
@Sterno Dat About Me doe.
 
2:41 PM
@OrigamiRobot None that can murderize you AFAIK.
 
WELL AT LEAST THERE'S THAT
 
@Frank More or less. The first answer had been "try to reason with them" and he left a comment that the answer was completely invalid because they aren't people who would listen to reason
Basically he argued with most everyone
It was entertaining mini-drama
 
@Sterno It sounds like he wouldn't listen to reason.
 
Haven't done that in a while
 
2:44 PM
@SaintWacko I was expecting @FAE to do that, but that works!
 
I didn't even realize @SaintWacko still had room ownership.
 
that was probably the fastest turnaround yet
 
well, I'm going to go heat up lunch
 
@Wipqozn I just figured I had been around long enough that someone decided I should have it :)
 
@Wipqozn Neither did I.
I think he was missed in the timeout ownership extravaganza.
 
FAE
2:46 PM
@OrigamiRobot I don't think there are any that are deadly, but I like... don't want them in my hair or on my body. :[
@Sterno Was alt-tabbed, sorry!
 
@FAE Your turn!
 
@FAE I KNOW, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS MORTAL DANGER
 
So I'm playing Divinity and an archer just shot my tank with an arrow that lowers all stats by two. This was enough to bring her strength under the minimum requirement for her armor. So his arrow had the side effect of knocking her clothes off. Now she's fighting naked.
8
 
2:48 PM
@Sterno That's quite the arrow.
 
@Sterno I WANT THIS ARROW
 
@Sterno Lesson: don't wear armor that close to stat limits.
 
@Frank She's been getting a lot of crits since this happened though. I think it must made her mad.
 
FAE
@Sterno I thought you meant a like, vehicle tank at first and thought, "Whoa, that's a hell of an arrow."
 
@Sterno That escalated ... decently.
 
2:49 PM
@FAE me too.
 
@SaintWacko Is your girlfriend wearing clothes this close to her carry limit?
 
This looks like something I'd like to play, but I already have too much to play.
 
How bad of a hack is it to resize your window by a pixel to fix some layout issue?
 
@Arperum Bad.
 
2:52 PM
@FEichinger It's Java though, and making it repaint/recalculate everything in the window doesn't work for some reason.
 
You had me at "Java".
Go right ahead. Hack all you want.
Shit don't matter, yo.
 
I also majorly broke my layout earlier today by adding a listener to a textfield. some other panel went completely mad.
Now that I think about it, got to readd that thing. And hope it doesn't explode again.
 
@Arperum That's... odd.
I'm assuming you're using swing?
 
@SaintWacko Yea, I blame Intellij.
@SaintWacko Yup.
 
Gosh animating anything in iOS is a colossal pita
 
2:55 PM
> iOS is a colossal pita.
ftfy
 
@Arperum I am aware
But still
Animation is something at which iOS excels, so you'd expect it to be easier than this
 
@Arperum Well, what are the symptoms?
 
@FEichinger the frame resizeing is because some scrollpane decides it's randomly 25 pc lower then it should.
 
0
Q: Multiplayer minecraft on one PC

09stephenbIs it possible to run two insistence's of mine-craft and have two players on the same world on the same PC with no internet connection. Does an one know how this could be done. I have tried to run mine-craft twice but there was just one player not two.

 
Also: in most situations, the Jpanel that contains the Jscrollpane decides the 25+25 = 100, and anything less will be fought by layout breakage. But at some points it decides that 25+25 is actually 50, so it causes the bottom border to suddenly be 75 high. Yay for inconsistency.
 
3:01 PM
@Arperum 25p? Could be weird positioning calculations for a potential horizontal axis scrollbar.
 
@FEichinger Disabled. No horizontal scrollbar.
 
Doesn't mean there isn't a hidden math override somewhere in the project.
Sorry, I've seen some weird shit done in Java.
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And all this nonsense started since I added that listener. Undoing these changes kept it broken. Which is the part that confused me some more.
@FEichinger I am seeing weird shit in Java. Transparancy and swing aren't friends either.
 
God that fire alarm is absolutely absurd
 
@Arperum Log every draw event with relevant positioning data and see what happens.
 
3:03 PM
I keep loosing my transparency values.
@FEichinger Bleh, it works, and the deadline for this thing is too close for comfort because other stuff broke in horrible ways when that got updated. (some third party thing got updated, fucked up their whole DB, I had to fix the other things that depended on said DB)
If I have time left at the end I'll have a look and see if I can unfuck the weird stuff.
Ah, the height starts to act normal again under a certain treshold, and once it goes above that unknown height, it starts defying math.
Oh well, I'll continu tomorrow.
 
@Arperum You're using Swing? >:O
 
@Powerlord To be fair, it's one of the simpler ways for layouts in Java apps.
 
@Frank SWT isn't particularly difficult either.
 
0
Q: Can an opponent deploy units behind my base, if I build it beside the natural boarder of my land?

RLHIn Star Wars Commander you are given a tract of virtual land where you can build your base. I have yet to engage a multiplayer opponent and, from what the game states, I will not be attacked until I first attack another player. Since I am about to start attacking opponents, I want to be sure th...

 
Also, gotta love how once of my coworkers automatically assumes that our Java code for dealing with Oracle workspaces somehow changed when we're required to call stored procedures for everything.
Nope, we're calling the same method for creating workspaces that you already wrote...
 
3:18 PM
@Lazers Drat, missed a spelling mistake.
 
@badp Not using Amazon/Twitch?
I still kinda wonder why Amazon bought twitch. Are they working on some new technology that listens for product names and puts in text ads any time a product is mentioned?
"I stream using a <insert device here>" (Buy <insert device here> at Amazon now! text link appears)
Actually, Anna suggested a streaming device to me not that long ago and I can't remember what it is. Might have to ask her again.
 
@badp That doesn't make me want to click it.
 
You WON'T BELIEVE how boring this stream is!
 
During the first minute I thought it would get interesting, but by 5 minutes in I realized it would stay boring! Just look how boring it is at 4:27!
 
3:26 PM
I can't actually tell what is what but that comes from not playing the associated game. That said, I'm not going to leave that idling in another tab because your ping sounds will be the death of me.
 
BWONG!
 
...like the O is like the only letter in that entire string that even remotely reflects the sound given.
 
@GraceNote Basically Platinum God is the ultimate achievement in the Binding of Isaac DLC. To unlock it, I need to unlock all items and obtain them in random drops.
 
WELL HOW WOULD YOU ONOMATOPOEIZE IT?
 
What drop be you hunting?
 
3:28 PM
SMB Super Fan
 
FAE
@OrigamiRobot THWONK
 
@OrigamiRobot PLOLLTK
 
This one in particular I've unlocked ages ago, the game says I've unlocked, and never found it
 
NO, IT'S DEFINITELY A G AT THE END
 
According to the wiki I have a 1 in 126.9 chance of it dropping
 
3:29 PM
UNLESS MY PING SOUNDS ARE DIFFERENT
 
so I'm just starting over and over until I find it
 
I don't really think that the ending sound is anything that reflects English roman lettering, hence why I went for "LLTK"
 
@GraceNote K HAS A HARD STOP
PING SOUNDS TRAIL
 
That's what the T is for.
 
wouldn't that be PLONK?
PLONG if you will
 
3:31 PM
MAYBE YOU GUYS JUST NEED ROBOT EARS
 
I used to say "PLONK" but I have since ceased to consider that unearthly ending to be really captured by a mere NK.
 
Woo, Patch 2.1! I guess I'll do a rift or two tonight.
 
I WOULD ALSO SAY "BWOMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
 
what the hell conversation did I just come back to. Did everyone break?
 
@Rapitor SBROINNGGGGG
 
3:37 PM
ok then.
 
KATA-PLING!
 
@Frank ...in Rift I assume?
@Rapitor BACON
 
@Powerlord No, D3.
 
FAE
Okay, gonna go out and finish up that multicache we started the other day. Got halfway through, should be able to finish now.
 
@FAE later
 
3:39 PM
@FAE I READ "MUSTACHE"
 
newegg, your site is being impossible! I DON'T WANT TO BE REDIRECTED TO THE CANADIAN PAGE! I'm not buying anything today, I just want to look at stuff other people are linking to.
 
@MBraedley JUST COME LIVE IN THE US
PROBLEM SOLVED
 
Actually, problem is solved with an incognito window, but I shouldn't have to do that
 
I STILL TAKE FULL CREDIT
 
Man, forget you.
I'm going to take full credit!
 
3:52 PM
NOOO, MY ILL-GOTTEN CREDIT!
 
@MBraedley and I both live in Nova Scotia, so I'm pretty sure that means I get credit stealing priority.
 
@Wipqozn Are you stealing his debits as well?
 
@StrixVaria Seasons will start on Friday.
 
@Powerlord Sure
 
yessssssssssssssss
try 149
but still no Platinum God
 

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