The Bridge

user15026

4:00 PM

@Gnoupi Sometimes, yes, that helps, but other times, well off topic is off topic.

Gnoupi

@Fluttershy referring to None's comment

user15026

The arguments, however, need to stop. People need to stop attacking each other for having opinions.

Powerlord

@Fluttershy Have you ever tried eating @badp?

FAE

Oooh, I got a StreetPass from someone in British Columbia today.

user15026

@FAE Neat!

badp

4:01 PM

Protecting the guilty ♫

Wipqozn

@Gnoupi We close fast to stop people from posting answers which don't really answer the question, or which will need to be deleted after the question is fixed. That's why they changed the wording to "Put on hold", to try to the closing process a little more new-user-friendly. We can open just as fast as we close. Also, you can always jump into chat if you think somethings closed and it shouldn't be. This chat is really active with 3k+ users.

Gnoupi

@AshleyNunn I see your point, yes. Like I said, it's just about the attitude towards borderline questions. About treating the SE site topic as a "topic" more than a "only that"

@Wipqozn Haven't really seen the "put on hold" change, indeed, it might be less violent since when I was active

user15026

@Gnoupi I am not sure what you are saying here.

Gnoupi

@AshleyNunn Me neither, I'm tired, it's late.

user15026

@Wipqozn Yeah, that's what people forget a lot. Closing/POH is not necessarily permanent.

Wipqozn

4:03 PM

@Gnoupi The way it works is only after a question has been closed for 48 hours (might be longer) does the text change from "Put on Hold" to "Closed."

user15026

If things improve, chances are, it will pop open again.

user15026

But sometimes, things just don't work on a given site.

user15026

In this case, I think this question is specific to streaming games and therefore it works here.

Powerlord

0

Q: Binary Clock in Java

I am new to java and programming in general and I would like to try and make a binary clock, a clock divided into 3 sections (hours, minutes, seconds from left to right respectively) and read with military time. It has 4 horizontal rows that represent values of 1, 2, 4, 8 respectively. An examp...

java

That's what it looks like now... not that you can see it from the one-box

Gnoupi

@AshleyNunn I mean that I'm quite open to questions which are "related", and not just the ones which are "only about". For example streaming, or computer problems related to gaming. Sure, you can remove "gaming" from it and it's a technical question. But it happened for the user while he was gaming on his device, so I would tend to accept it

Powerlord

4:04 PM

I know that's from SO, but it's a lot easier to find on hold questions over there due to volume

Wipqozn

Depending on the problem I usually try to direct the user to somewhere they can ask their question. For example, I normally point game recommendations to this chatroom and /r/shouldibuythisgame. I find that usually helps us seem a lot more welcoming to new users, despite closing their question.

Gnoupi

and yes, I realize this opens to any "I got bitten by a mosquito while playing WoW, what to do", with this litteral description, but you know what i mean

Powerlord

(That and Arqade is blocked from work)

Gnoupi

@Wipqozn I didn't know. It's a bit nicer, presented like that, indeed.

user15026

@Gnoupi Which is fair, but understand others might not agree

user15026

4:07 PM

Also, remember, one person VTC or commenting about it isn't the end of everything and is not necessarily indicative of anything other than one person thinks a particular thing.

Gnoupi

@AshleyNunn I do, it's just that having been on the moderation side, it gets tedious after a while to see the door slamming as hard on imperfect questions

Wipqozn

Yeah. It takes 5 users to close vote, or one power crazy mod (cc @AshleyNunn).

user15026

@Gnoupi I don't think any door slammed here whatsoever. And I don't think it really does in any case.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn ...or a person with a gold badge in one of the tags.

user15026

We are not despotic evil people.

Powerlord

4:08 PM

Which is why I can close any java question on SO.

user15026

We just have a level of quality that we want to keep up.

Jason Berkan

Personally, I also try to remember that arguing in the comments looks worse to a new user than putting their question on hold. Put it on hold; ensure the comments are relevant to the problems with the question and let it go.

user15026

@JasonBerkan This, this, this.

Gnoupi

Anyhoo, not much to add on the topic, so have a good evening

GnomeSlice

so im pretty sure i super bombed the last part of my trainkng tkday

Gnoupi

4:12 PM

@JasonBerkan Yes, I agree. I just get irritated when it looks like slamming the door directly on the new guy without more assessing of the need. But I see your point of course, talking about it in the comments isn't more appropriate

GnomeSlice

the incident report

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Oh? How so?

Jason Berkan

@Gnoupi You are preaching to the choir. I'm not certain if anyone was as excited about the change to "On Hold" as I was.

Because it softens the blow of having the question closed and points out exactly what needs to be done to get it reopened.

GnomeSlice

like they had us watch a short video and wrote a repprt on it

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan It's opinions like this that made me vote for you as mod.

Gnoupi

4:13 PM

@JasonBerkan Would have been as well if I was there when it happened, indeed

GnomeSlice

and i had loterally no odea what happened on the clip

missed a bunch of details too

clop

clip

srupod phone

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Your phone's a huge jerk.

Lazers

0

Q: Dragon Age Origin handling rogue party members

Dragon Age Origin // I went mage, but I have heard rogues are OP, but have the problem that they do not auto-backstab. How do I handle this? Is there a way to manually control the rogue to make him backstab turn-based mode, or should I just dump melee rogues if they approach me?

dragon-age-origins rogue turn-based-strategy

GnomeSlice

also i seem to have badly misjudged how much pen and paper writing thos job will require

i have dysgraphia

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn Thanks. Unfortunately, I wasn't popular enough among the rest of Arqade...

Feeds

4:16 PM

Jason Berkan has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

Sterno has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.

GnomeSlice

i may be fuct

Feeds

Sterno has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

FAE has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.

FAE

@GnomeSlice Hm. :( Have you let them know yet?

GnomeSlice

i have not. dodnt mention it in the interview because i (incorrectly) assumed it was irrelevant

FAE

@GnomeSlice It may be a good idea to talk with your manager or somesuch, so they know it's not like, you just being lazy or something.

GnomeSlice

4:19 PM

I dont even have a manager yet, today is the first day of like 2 weeks of training

FAE

@GnomeSlice Trainer then?

GnomeSlice

the guy teaching us today is just an assistant too

the real guy starts tomorrow

FAE

I'd find someone in a position of authority at least in the training process and talk with them and explain.

GnomeSlice

i may jave to talk to him anyway though because taking notes with the videos is brutal

not sure what im gonn do

lunch pver now though, peace

FAE

@GnomeSlice take care

Wipqozn

4:26 PM

@StackExchange Yes! Finally, keeping you as room owner has paid off.

@StackExchange Until @FAE came along.

EVERYTHING WAS FINE, UNTIL THE DAY THE @FAE NATION ATTACKED!

I really should watch Avatar at some point.

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn If you watch it after FMAB, I would have to ask you to stop copying me.

FAE

@Wipqozn hahaha

user15026

@Wipqozn Yes

Kevin van der Velden

Are the newer seasons of legend of korra any good btw? I've seen the first season but not the later one

FAE

@Wipqozn I only did that for the first time a few months ago and I'm honestly sorry I didn't sooner. It was way better than I expected.

@KevinvanderVelden Yes.

Wipqozn

4:28 PM

@FAE I've seen a few episodes, and I really liked what I saw of it.

FAE

@Wipqozn It's very, very well-written.

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan Nah, after FMAB I'm going to return to reading and playing EO3.

Jason Berkan

I am always impressed by a television show that, from the outset, is planned as a limited set of episodes. It allows for much better storytelling.

@Wipqozn Except for EO3, you are still copying me.

user15026

@FAE Same :)

FAE

@AshleyNunn So for Earthcaches, I see you're supposed to answer questions, but I'm looking at one near us, and they say "mail us" and I'm not sure where I'm supposed to mail...

user15026

4:31 PM

@FAE I think you can PM the people who did the cache on the Geocaching site somehow. Let me look.

user15026

Usually they give an email, but like...it's not super necessary to email them or whatever.

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan Television without a limit setof episodes is normally really bad.

user15026

I mean it's technically part of the thing, but you can log it without and nothing happens

FAE

@AshleyNunn Oooh okay.

@AshleyNunn Well, it says in the description here that logs without correct answers+photo will be removed. :S

Kevin van der Velden

You and jochem_m are really getting into it aren't you? =p

user15026

4:33 PM

@FAE Link me?

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn Or starts off great and ends up bad.

FAE

@AshleyNunn Here you go it's got both Dutch and English in the description

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan that's normally what happens.

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden I think I've become minorly addicted

Frank

@Powerlord For dupes, anyways. Mjolnir doesn't work for any other close reason.

FAE

4:35 PM

@KevinvanderVelden Also I picked up some Fimo clay this weekend. :3

user15026

@FAE Both this and the addiction are yay. :)

user15026

it's so fun.

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan: Another problem is shows which are planned to only last for a while, but then are renewed by the owning companies.

user15026

@FAE Ah. I know they can remove the log of you finding it, but I don't think they can remove the find, if that makes sense?

Wipqozn

Supernatural is a good example. I think it's pretty solid up until Season 5, and that's because it was intended to only last 5 seasons. However just as they were finishing up production of Season 5 it got renewed, and went really downhill starting in season 6.

user15026

4:37 PM

Like they can't tell you oh you didn't actually find it, they are, iirc, just allowed to remove your comment-y thing

user15026

But I could be wrong.

FAE

@AshleyNunn Ah okay.

Frank

And there's still nothing in that question that makes it gaming specific at all. Just, "I want to stream, but my computer bogs when I try." This issue would come up regardless of what task the asker is doing. It doesn't pass the technical acid test.

FAE

Do you contact people normally just through their Geocaching profile for Earthcaches?

Powerlord

Huh, weird... how to Oracle manage to get the trademark for JavaScript?

I would have thought Mozilla or AOL would have it.

user15026

4:37 PM

@FAE That's what my dad did when we did one. It worked out pretty well.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn Buffy the Vampire Slayer is another good example. Same situation, too.

Granted, BtVS did improve in late season 6 and season 7.

FAE

@AshleyNunn Okies, thanks. :)

Powerlord

(oh, right, as a comparison... the big bad during all of BtVS season 5 was a Hell God from another dimension... the big bad for most of season 6 were... 3 normal teenage boys)

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord I liked that season. The musical!

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan The musical episode was good... and the only episode in the entire season created by Joss Whedon.

(or so I recall)

Jason Berkan

4:45 PM

Actually, scratch that. I liked parts of that season. I didn't like how Xander and Anya's relationship was resolved.

Tim Stone

@Powerlord They acquired it in their acquisition of Sun, but I'm not entirely sure how Sun ended up with it either

Powerlord

@TimStone I kinda figured that's how they got it, but I expected AOL to end up with it due to the acquisition of Netscape.

Lazers

0

Q: How to play Rayman Legends without Uplay

I bought Rayman Legends on Steam a while ago, but when I launch it via Steam, it automatically launches Uplay (which uses about 6 times as much RAM as Steam and crashes a lot). Is there any way to play this game (Steam version) without automatically launching Uplay?

steam uplay rayman-legends

Tim Stone

@Powerlord Ah, apparently Netscape did a licensing agreement with Sun in renaming LiveScript to JavaScript, who I guess considered it an extension of their Java trademark.

FAE

Okay, heading out to grab a geocache real quick before dinner.

Kevin van der Velden

4:57 PM

@FAE yay!

Powerlord

Wait, in JavaScript, && and || are really just shortcuts for ternary?

murgatroid99

@Powerlord Not really

Powerlord

@murgatroid99 Well, apparently x && y doesn't return true or false, it returns the value of x if it evaluates to true, or the value of y if x doesn't evaluate to true.

murgatroid99

@Powerlord The condition is the same as what one of the ternary arguments would be, and it only works like that because of type coersion

@Powerlord Yes. It still preserves the expected truthiness of the result

Powerlord

@murgatroid99 I probably don't need to mention how that breaks the principle of least surprise.

Also, I should go get lunch seeing as how it's 1pm here.

badp

5:03 PM

Actually I think a few languages do that

murgatroid99

@Powerlord You're using JavaScript. You've already discarded the principle of least surprise

5

badp

x = x or 1 //set default value

Powerlord

@murgatroid99 Good point.

murgatroid99

@Powerlord And it only does that if you're passing in non-boolean operands to boolean operators. That's your fault

Powerlord

@badp As long as you get your truthiness right.

177

A: 'AND' vs '&&' as operator

If you use AND and OR, you'll eventually get tripped up by something like this: $this = true; $that = false; $truthiness = $this and $that; Want to guess what $truthiness equals? If you said false... bzzzt, sorry, wrong! $truthiness above has the value true. Why? = has a higher precedence...

badp

5:05 PM

well of course.

Some languages make more truthiness sense than others

Powerlord

@badp In the case above, using || would give you the wrong value. :P

badp

Let me check what Python does

murgatroid99

@Powerlord Oh god, does anybody really expect PHP to be better?

@badp I'm pretty sure it returns True or False

Powerlord

@murgatroid99 This applies to more than just PHP... any language that has both || and or usually falls afoul of this as they are higher and lower precedence than = respectively.

murgatroid99

@Powerlord How many languages do you know with both && and AND?

Powerlord

5:07 PM

(same applies to && and and)

murgatroid99

Either way

Origami Robot

HAS ANYONE HERE EVER USED RUB N BUFF?

badp

>>> print(2 or 1)
2
>>> print(None or 1)
1

murgatroid99

Because I can't think of any

Powerlord

@murgatroid99 PHP, Perl, JavaScript, and apparently Python

murgatroid99

5:08 PM

@Powerlord Python does not have && and ||

Powerlord

@murgatroid99 Oh. Well, you can see how much programming I do in Python.

murgatroid99

@Powerlord And JavaScript doesn't have and and or

badp

I usually only use that in situations where you can't give a function parameter a default value due to mutability

def qwartz(list_of_args = None):
  args = list_of_args or []
  ...

I don't think there are too many ugly side effects to this one

murgatroid99

@badp That works, but it's always better to explicitly check list_of_args is None

badp

If the list (or container, or whatever) was empty to start with, well, you're just replacing it with your own empty list

Powerlord

5:10 PM

I do wonder how many people upvoted my answer there just because I used truthiness as the example.

badp

Sure, if you pass it 0, or an empty string, or whatever _bool_'s to False, the function will work anyway

murgatroid99

@badp But that's not necessarily bad

badp

@murgatroid99 It's kind of swallowing errors.

At least in principle, it's terribad

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord I definitely would have, if I knew PHP and could verify your answer.

badp

Speaking of which, Python 3.5 is giving parameter annotations a well defined meaning and considering putting the library it's borrowing the well defined meaning from into the standard library

Powerlord

5:12 PM

Oh, if you want to hear something weird, SourcePawn is only getting a string concatenation operator in SourceMod 1.7. Keep in mind that SourcePawn has been around since... 2005?

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot I think your mom has.

Oh buuurrrnnnn

Powerlord

Or did it get a string concatenation operator in 1.6... I don't think so, though.

murgatroid99

@badp Ooh, is it. I didn't notice that last time I checked

badp

...I think I read at least a proposal about it?

Powerlord

Oh yeah, I need to check the Java 1.8 changes doc to see if they finally added C# style property declarations.

badp

5:13 PM

mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2014-August/028618.html

I mean it comes from Van Rossum so it's basically final :P

I didn't check how the proposal was received in the bazillion replies

murgatroid99

@badp It will probably at least go through the PEP process before it gets into 3.5

Powerlord

Hmm, I don't see anything about properties in this doc, but apparently Java 1.8 has a new Date-Time library

(finally)

Wait, I still need to go get lunch. Be back later maybe.

Tim Stone

@Powerlord Probably not, they skimped out on the support for collection initializers too :(

Lazers

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Q: Does shadow kill increase amount of plague in the city?

So I have been reading some Q/A here on gaming.stackexchange and and in the middle of it I thought to myself "Does shadow killing increase the amount of weepers, rats and overall plague in the city?" The reason I though this is because if the dead bodies turn to ash then there is nothing for the ...

dishonored

Frank

sigh Now I REALLY want a new metroid game. In high def, if at all possible.

Martin Sojka

5:33 PM

@Powerlord One which still can't deal with leap seconds. Oh well. Baby steps, I guess. I just hope we get some variant of time and date handling which can support all standard Earth-based systems before we manage to make a lunar or Martian settlement and have a need to also support a custom clock for them.

Powerlord

@MartinSojka Which is funny since the Date class (part of the old time/date API) supported seconds up to 61.

FAE

@AshleyNunn There's a geocoin in this and I'm having analysis paralysis on what to do with it! Its goal is just to see the world but I'm not sure how okay it is to like just have it travel a short distance within the country here.

I'm traveling to the US in a couple months but I imagine that's too long to hang onto it.

user15026

@FAE Move it along, if you like :) And then maybe someone else will move it a little farther and then all of a sudden someone else will pop it like a million miles away :)

user15026

@FAE You could, but I know some people might get twitchy.

FAE

Okies, thanks!

badp

5:47 PM

man I hope rebirth makes blood donation health upgrades less annoying to get

I always spend ~20 minutes to get the bloody things to explode, and then they explode the wrong thing

I need heart containers man

Origami Robot

I AM JEALOUS THAT @FAE IS GEOCACHING RIGHT NOW AND I AM NOT

Powerlord

@badp Why would they change something in a Roguelike to make it easier? Suck it up, man!

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Me too.

badp

@Powerlord grinding is not hard.

Putting in 99 coins in a slot machine to collect hearts that you then deposit in the blood donation machine is just a zero-skill time sink.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Maybe you add and then remove me room ownership, so that @FAE can be jealous you're removing me from ownership and she's not.

MBraedley

5:50 PM

I hate UDP right now.

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn I'M NOT AN OWNER, SO THAT'S NOT AN OPTION

Wipqozn

@MBraedley Oh?

Martin Sojka

Oh good, the Fine Young Capitalists fundraiser is back.

FAE

@Ashley the coin owner asks that a photo be taken of where it's traveled to, how close to the actual cache site should the photo be? I'm also not sure if I'm the one who should be taking it or if you're supposed to take them when you put them in somewhere. x_x

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Here, I'll add you! oh wait, I can't, @FAE removed me. Never mind!

badp

5:51 PM

@FAE email the coin owner?

MBraedley

@Wipqozn I'm working on a very stream dependent Java application, and have to somehow shoehorn a set of UDP connections into it. UDP and Java I/O streams don't really mix well.

badp

Maybe he's in the US and he'd rather see it roam Europe for a while.

Maybe the opposite is true

Wipqozn

@MBraedley well, you're working with Java, so you have my sympathy. I hate Java.

badp

I dunno if that's cheating

Powerlord

@MBraedley Haaave fun with that.

user15026

5:53 PM

@FAE Nearby, but try to avoid taking pics of hte actual cache hidespot

murgatroid99

@MartinSojka that's good

Wipqozn

Man, I really need to try this geocaching thing at some point.

Martin Sojka

@murgatroid99 Yeah. I've just thrown $100 their way, via the 4chan referral link. If nothing else, the lulz to be had so far were awesome. Best result is, it'll actually help us to get more people interested in funding indie devs.

badp

oh come on. Curse of Darkness in the Cathedral?

is that even possible?

murgatroid99

@MartinSojka I've been following the 4chan involvement, but when I finally went to contribute the campaign was down

@MartinSojka I really think that this is one of the most entertaining things 4chan has done in a long time

FAE

5:58 PM

@Ashley Okies, thanks!

GnomeSlice

cvfhbxfjnfy frh x łn

Origami Robot

@GnomeSlice BLESS YOU

MBraedley

@Powerlord I may have to take a step back and write a component (or another app) that will handle the UDP connections on one side and present them as a TCP connection on the other.

murgatroid99

@MBraedley How would that handle packet loss?

Powerlord

I'll be honest, I've never dealt with raw UDP (or even raw TCP) in Java.

Martin Sojka

6:01 PM

Same way TCP handles them, ask for resending until timed out, then terminate the connection. BTW, have a look at this code, might be helpful (though it's GPLv3, depending on where you want to integrate it ...): code.google.com/p/udptunnel

murgatroid99

@MBraedley Why do you need UDP in the first place?

MBraedley

@murgatroid99 Don't care. It's the fault of the vendor for using UDP

Martin Sojka

He might not control the other side of the connection.

Powerlord

@MartinSojka You'd kind of have to handle that part manually, unlike TCP which does it automagically.

murgatroid99

@MBraedley I mean that your code has to do something about dropped packets

MBraedley

6:03 PM

@Powerlord TCP in Java is actually really easy. You create the connection, then pull out an IStream and OStream

Powerlord

@MBraedley Kind of what I expected.

I'm only just now looking at the DatagramSocket class.

MBraedley

@murgatroid99 On which side? I don't care about dropped packets on the UDP side, since it's all local area network, and Java will handle everything on the TCP side (plus a few bits of logic that already exist in the app).

Martin Sojka

It also behaves really badly when there's a problem with the connection, so only use it for a first draft of your code.

.. then test, and if those issues pop up, look for a replacement. If they don't appear (depends very much on your needs), don't bother, obviously.

murgatroid99

@MBraedley I'm not sure what you mean on the UDP side. Even if you're just going over the local network, your packets can still get dropped at the kernel level (I'm pretty sure).

MBraedley

@MartinSojka Need LGPL (or similar) for library, GPL is fine if it's stand-alone (i.e. we don't need to actually touch the code or integrate it with ours). Other than that, the other problem I have is the vendor decided that we should do their work for them and route the 3 different messages to 3 different ports, so I need some logic on the last end of the connection to do that efficiently.

@murgatroid99 And I'm saying I don't care if I drop a packet every now and again. There'll be logic higher up that'll handle that for critical events anyways.

badp

6:17 PM

def on_packet_loss():
  return Packet(42)

@badp wat

l2cntxt

@badp no

yuno

0

Q: Are there any server commands to despawn neutral mobs in Minecraft 1.6.4?

After a rather too succesful experiment with an infinite villager spawner in Minecraft 1.6.4, our server is now overrun by masses (hunders, if not thousands) of villagers. Is there a server command, or other simple solution, to despawning such a huge number of mobs? Since they are neutral/frien...

minecraft

Powerlord

6:20 PM

I forget, are questions deleted when their score goes below a certain amount?

badp

also they need to have no answer (or positively scored answer or whatnot)

Powerlord

I asked because I see a question on SO that was closed and reopened and is accruing close votes again and has a -3 score with no answers.

I don't think the question is bad, it's just off-topic in its current form.

badp

looks like the system is working as intended!

Powerlord

What really bugged me is that someone went begging on Meta for reopen votes.

MBraedley

@Lazers A bit of a dupe to a question I answered (I think), but can't find it now because of work filter (and the stack exchange app isn't helping either).

FAE

6:27 PM

@AshleyNunn Jochem and each have separate accounts, we should only log the find under one of ours, right?

Also, am home now. Got stung by nettles. :| But got the cache, woo!

badp

why? you both found it.

FAE

Geocaching in the rain in the Netherlands AKA learn the wonders of dodging huge slugs on the walking paths

@badp I'm not sure how it'd work in the coin's tracking page if 2 people log it from the same cache

badp

I have no idea but it hardly seems the kind of activity that would discourage people from teaming up

murgatroid99

6:44 PM

@Powerlord I actually agree with that guy. That question looks on-topic to me.

Lazers

0

Q: End Portal in FTB teleports to random location in the overworld

This issue has happened twice now on 2 different worlds. I've found the end portal, put the eyes of ender all around, the portal effect appears, I jump in, then I get teleported to a random location in the overworld, with a nether portal behind me. Does the End Portal work differently in FTB? T...

minecraft minecraft-feed-the-beast

Frank

@Powerlord If they're at neutral or negative votes, yes. Eventually.

Sid Meier’s Civilization: Beyond Earth for $37.50 after coupon (normally $50)

Use Coupon: 01S6ZC-JVSB28-JRW7X4

Good until Aug. 29th.

Still not sure it's enough to make me pre-order, but I'm certainly leaning towards it at that price.

cc @SaintWacko, because I recall him being interested in the deal.

Origami Robot

@FAE SLUGS ARE FUN

MBraedley

@Lazers gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/159180

Rapitor

edit of the day

gaming.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/95739

someone is very mad

fredley

7:00 PM

@Rapitor Meanwhile

Rapitor

oh, @Frank made em mad

Frank

@Rapitor I removed his advertising.

murgatroid99

@fredley Oh, it's on "the web". Now I know where to find it

fredley

@murgatroid99 I always forget to look on the web, even when I'm already on the web

user15026

@FAE Log the coin on one account, but log the cache itself on both

MBraedley

7:04 PM

@fredley You may need to intervene, since he just made another vandalizing suggested edit

fredley

*Lifts up banhammer*

FAE

@AshleyNunn Okay, thank you. :) I've been googling to find a definitive answer here and couldn't find one. Sorry for all my noob questions!

user15026

@FAE No worries! I am just glad I can help!

Frank

@MBraedley And edited his answer again, too.

user15026

Just remember who logged the coin so you can say when you drop it off again

FAE

7:06 PM

Right.

Frank

If he does it again, I say just punt the answer and call it. It wasn't that good to begin with.

user15026

@Frank There's nothing wrong with the answer itself

user15026

It's more the behaviour

user15026

And that isn't something we would do to anyone else, regardless of the shit edits

Frank

@AshleyNunn We delete low quality answers.

user15026

7:07 PM

@Frank This isn't exactly low quality

Wipqozn

@Frank The better solution would be to just suspend the user instead of deleting the answer.

Frank

An answer that is continually being edited with irrelevant information is low quality, in my books.

user15026

@Wipqozn Which just has been done.

fredley

@Frank This isn't low quality, it's just wrong. Low quality is "adfaklsdjgsd;flkjgsdlkjgdsflk;gj"

FAE

@AshleyNunn Is he allowed to "discover" it or should he not log it whatsoever?

user15026

7:07 PM

@fredley This.

Rapitor

it's not a bad answer, not a good one either. but it is valid

fredley

@Wipqozn Which is what has happened

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Rad.

@fredley Rad.

user15026

@FAE You usually log by possession, but I forget if there is just a thing for like "I saw this but I didn't keep it"

Frank

Suspending an unregistered user is going to likely do squat. Other than keep him from editing his answer.

user15026

7:08 PM

if there is, log it like that. Been a while since I logged any trackables on my own (usually my parents keep ours because well, I am very likely to lose things :P)

Unionhawk

3 hours ago, by Origami Robot

ALSO, IF PEOPLE GOT BANNED FOR DIFFERING OPINIONS, FRANK WOULD PROBABLY, STATISTICALLY, BE AMONG THE FIRST TO BE BANNED

user15026

@Frank That latter part being what we are trying to prevent

user15026

By banning.

user15026

Deleting the answer just because it came from someone who had a temper tantrum is not how we work.

Frank

@AshleyNunn Deleting an answer because the user refuses to listen to constructive criticism sounds like fantastic methodology.

fredley

7:10 PM

@AshleyNunn This

Frank

Because lets face it; people are going to be coming here for rep.

user15026

@Frank That's your opinion, perhaps, but that is not how the system works, and quite frankly, I think that is a damn good thing.

user15026

@Frank And?

Frank

Removing their rep capabilities for what is already incredibly low quality sounds just par for the course.

Rapitor

should give this shakeel fella a medal for persistence though...

FAE

7:10 PM

@AshleyNunn They have "Discover" for if you see it but leave it and this says, under "Found it? Log it!" that "If you are shown a Geocoin by another geocacher but do not actually trade it, you may "discover" it instead. This is a virtual log type which will not place the coin in your inventory but will keep a record of the find in your profile" so I'm wondering if that applies here. Maybe I should post on the forums...

spugsley

I BOUGHT A DESHEDDING BRUSH TIME TO DESHED MY CAT

user15026

@FAE Ah, yes, do that!

user15026

I always forget about that option!

user15026

@spugsley laughs and then make a new cat with the sheds from the old cat :P

fredley

@spugsley Can't you just lock the door?

spugsley

7:11 PM

@AshleyNunn YES A WHOLE NEW CAT

FAE

@AshleyNunn Ah, cool, thanks!

spugsley

@fredley why? :(

fredley

@spugsley Of the shed

user15026

@FAE No problem. I know it can be confusing. Lots of stuff to learn. I like helping.

spugsley

:O

user15026

7:12 PM

@fredley facedesk

user15026

@Frank It's not low quality!

Powerlord

@spugsley A whole new cat~ with new horizons to purrsue...

FAE

@AshleyNunn Yeah, it's kinda "aaahhhhh so much infooooo"

Frank

@AshleyNunn I disagree.

user15026

@Frank I am well aware.

Frank

7:12 PM

It's not even grammatically correct!

Spelling, maybe.

user15026

@Frank Then that's where you edit.

Frank

It's barely even an answer.

user15026

LQ is like facesmashing.

Frank

@AshleyNunn Not according to the low quality queue, no.

fredley

@AshleyNunn This

user15026

7:13 PM

@Frank Yes, but that's so you can see about editing things, and not just to delete things forever because they hit that queue

fredley

That post is well above the threshold for low quality

I mean it has grammar and everything!

user15026

Otherwise we would auto delete and be done

badp

@spugsley How's it going?

FAE

@AshleyNunn We signed up for a Geocaching Meet and Greet event at the end of the month. :D Would it be a good idea to take the coin to that?

user15026

@FAE Oooh, that could be funsies.

badp

7:15 PM

Please tell me "geocaching" is actually pronounced geo-ca-ching

Frank

@AshleyNunn I fail to see why we should keep such. It's going to eventually get deleted, anyways, so I don't know what the point is to keep it until it happens.

fredley

@badp It's like Johnny Cashing

FAE

@AshleyNunn We need to do an Event for the August 7 Souvenir thing, and I found out there's one in Delft. :D

badp

Hmmm good old cashing

user15026

@FAE Wicked. I am likely not going to hit enough stuff for all of those

user15026

7:16 PM

@badp sorry to burst your bubble.

user15026

@Frank Because we have zero reason to delete it as low quality.

Frank

@badp I now want it to actually be pronounced ca-ching.

fredley

@Frank geo ka ching

badp

I do have the best mindcanons

Lazers

2

Q: How to build long horizontal blocks in Terraria on XBox?

Some constructions in Terraria, for example SkyBridge, require the construction of long horizontal blocks. I only played the game on XBox and presume that building such blocks on a PC might be easier using mouse to position your pointer, but on XBox this is almost undoable: once I have some block...

xbox-360 terraria

Rapitor

7:27 PM

uh

StackExchange down?

Frank

It fell down, went boom.

MBraedley

SO is up, but being slow

fredley

@MBraedley It was actually down for a bit

Someone was playing with the firewall apparently

Rapitor

BK wants to run to Canada with the help of Tim hortons to avoid US tax

spugsley

3

"fits on your face"

OKAY, PANIC.

7:40 PM

A minor firewall change had some very ill effects, we have reverted and are digging into the issue.

Tweeted by StackStatus on August 25, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Frank

@OKAY,PANIC. It's always the little things that cause the big things.

Rapitor

@Frank "I'll just change this one little value and- OH GOD EVERYTHING EXPLODED"

Frank

@spugsley I can tell you that all of these are true.

@Rapitor It's actually worse at our workplace right now.

Rapitor

worse than explosions?

MBraedley

@spugsley Yes, all of those are true

Frank

7:43 PM

We nudged a network cable, trying to figure out where it went and where it plugged in, and it brought down our entire network.

spugsley

@Frank and you're certain it fits on your face?

Frank

@spugsley It really does.

It gets super bushy if I don't keep it in check, though.

7

spugsley

@Frank wow. That's fucking crazy.

@Frank more room for pollutants and toxins

Frank

@spugsley Or better mountain homing device.

You've seen me pull a full-on lumberjack, no?

spugsley

@Frank yup :D

Frank

7:46 PM

@spugsley It's a manly geek! Run! Everybody run! :P

Lazers

0

Q: What causes weapons to become unusable?

In combat challenge maps, there may be weapons for the enemies to use. I've noticed that over time, the enemies stop using some of them. What causes the enemies to stop picking them up and using them? Time since the weapon was introduced? Time held/used? A bug?

batman-arkham-city

Frank

And of course, that gets an out of context star. :P

2

Lazers

0

Q: Is there any endless mode in Super Hexagon?

I've unlocked Hexagon, Hexagoner, Hexagonest, Hexagon (Hyper), Hexagoner (Hyper) but not Hexagonest (Hyper) so is there any hidden endless level to be unlocked after I complete them all or Super Hexagon doesn't have any endless mode?

super-hexagon

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