The Bridge

@AshleyNunn I love [good] pixel art.

@GnomeSlice <3 Sword & Sworcery

Steam Review of the day

@FAE I know <3

Sheepshead (game)

Sheepshead or Sheephead is a trick-taking card game related to the Skat family of games. It is the Americanized version of a card game that originated in Central Europe in the late 18th century under the German name Schafkopf. Although Schafkopf literally means "sheepshead", it has nothing to do with sheep. The term probably was derived and translated incorrectly from Middle High German and referred to playing cards on a barrel head (from kopf, meaning head, and Schaff, meaning a barrel). Since kings are very weak cards, some say that playing the game was a way to insult the Kaiser wi...

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS?

A COWORKER JUST TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT AND IT SOUNDS SO COMPLICATED

user15026

@GnomeSlice It just...I dunno, it is so rarely actually well done that it just makes me angry because it is often, to me, feeling like an excuse to be lazy and not actually put work into the graphics

user15026

5:06 PM

I mean I am not asking for much

Pixel Art isn't 'easy'.

user15026

but I would like the whole "IT LOOKS LIKE THE NES OMG OMG OMG OMG WHEE" trend to end

user15026

@GnomeSlice I never said it was, I said that's how it feels

> But while the term "pixel art" is often used synonymously with "retro," the style doesn’t have to signify nostalgia — or vice versa. Some of the most retro games around eschew pixel art entirely, in fact.

user15026

@GnomeSlice I nkow. I read the damn article.

Ullallulloo

5:06 PM

Man, Liquid and Titan both win.

@AshleyNunn It wasn't directed at you but okay.

user15026

Anyway, I am going to go breathe and take a walk before my performance review because I am being an irrational anger squid at everything today.

user15026

squids away

Sorry

again

user15026

I'm not mad at you, really, I am just mad at everything.

user15026

5:08 PM

(wheeee brain chemistry)

@OrigamiRobot Just play Spades.

Ullallulloo

@BenBrocka This is something I like about Desura. That simple activate a key thing on their website.

Although, the fact that I really don't ever want to open their program doesn't bode well for them.

@OrigamiRobot Sounds similar to euchre, but completely different.

@Ullallulloo Too bad their client sucks eggs.

@MBraedley I remember liking that game a lot like 10 years ago but I don't remember the rules now :(

5:11 PM

The only things I like about Desura are that, and the presentation of their store pages. Best looking store.

@StrixVaria THIS CAME UP BECAUSE I SUGGESTED SPADES AND HE SAID "SHEEPSHEAD IS BETTER THAN SPADES"

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice I want to like Desura, but there's rarely anything on it I want to play.

Desura has become a real piece of shit

I haven't bought anything there in ages.

It's nice to use as a download manager for games on my home internet

but like half the time you download something through the client it just throws an error on install anyway and you have to download it direct.

The main thing I like about Desura is that you can download direct

yeah that's really nice

5:14 PM

Dear Bridge: I hate office politics. Tell me again why I'm so good at them?

The service has a lot of good points, but they don't use them very well and the management/customer service is a complete joke

Dungeon Gate has a bug that makes it crash at a certain point every time near the beginning of the game. They uploaded a patch to fix it but Desura never approved it. It's been like a year.

Maybe it's gone through since then, who knows.

The game was by the people who made Garry's Incident so it's kind of shitty anyway

@SaintWacko omg

@SaintWacko obviously shopped

@GnomeSlice Can you tell by the pixels?

@AshleyNunn Ooh, what kind of mouse?

K I am off

doctor and stuff

Blem

5:20 PM

well hi

MAN, I WANNA PLAY SPADES NOW

I wanna play FTB Unstable

@SaintWacko WHAT IS THAT?

@OrigamiRobot Minecraft modpack. The only FTB modpack for 1.7.2

All the others are back on 1.6

5:29 PM

@SaintWacko I KNEW IT WAS A MODPACK, I WANNA KNOW WHAT'S IN IT

I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING FROM WORK :(

@OrigamiRobot feedthebeast.atlassian.net/wiki/display/PML/Unstable+1.7.2

Will that load?

If not, I'll copy the list in

YES

It has Tinkers' Construct

And that's one of the greatest mods ever

barely has anything ;\

NO THERMAL EXPANSION?

5:31 PM

^

@SaintWacko The main thing I like about Steam is that it automatically manages game updates. Which isn't a surprise, since that was what it was originally created for back in 2003.

@OrigamiRobot Probably hasn't been updated yet

I CAN'T USE BC PIPES

@OrigamiRobot What's that?

@SaintWacko BUILDCRAFT

5:32 PM

why cnat you use BC pipes?

cant*

BECAUSE I STARTED WITH TE TUBES AND THOSE ARE SO MUCH EASIER

AND FASTER

AND CHEAPER

this is true. Item/Liquid ducts are a godsend.

Once FTB Unstable gets TE and Industrial craft it'll be worth it, meh until then.

NO MODULAR POWERSUITS EITHER?

HERESY

Thaumcraft has neat enough armors

Q: Why does my meat disappear so quickly in A Dark Room

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My meat and cured meat supplies disappear as fast as I can collect it, whether from the traps or other means. I do not currently have thieves. This makes it difficult to go on journeys. I've tried adjusting the number of hunters and trappers--but it has not seemed to help.

a-dark-room

5:45 PM

@Rapitor I'm not a fan of Thaumcraft. Not really interested in mixing magic into Minecraft.

user15026

Waiting for my supervisor to be ready for my review and mostly feeling like I might throw up.

Kendra

@AshleyNunn That just means that you're actually concerned with your job(or whatever the review is for). I'm sure you'll do fine! Also, Hello Bridge!

@AshleyNunn I'M SURE THE REVIEW WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE "YOU ARE AWESOME. KEEP THAT UP."

user15026

@origami I hope so. But I am not convinced yet lol

Q: How many missions do I need to complete to upgrade my Operation Breakout badge?

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So the new badge is weird in that it doesn't rank up based on comp wins, but based on operation missions completed on official matchmaking servers. How many missions would I have to complete to get to Silver, and even to Gold?

counter-strike-go

5:53 PM

@StrixVaria Spooky scary skeletons

user15026

@saintwacko a Microsoft comfort 4500 if I remember right (it'd at home and I am at work now)

@5pike WEREWOLF BARMITZVAH

Q: Tag synonyms not working as intended

@Ullallulloo surprised even the mobile steam app doesn't let you do it, website would be ideal. When I get review codes in email it's almost always at work and I can't claim

Sepia Lazers

6:09 PM

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I'm pretty sure the Tag Syonyms is not working as intended. Take the following example, for the tag counter-strike-go. Looks fine right? "global offensive" is listed as a synonym. Not so, when finding a tag: As you can tell the tag synonym isn't working, as it's only matching a FULL string...

discussion

Okay, it's looking like I'll have to decide whether I leave for vacation tomorrow after work, or Saturday morning. I need to pick up beer, and one of the breweries isn't open as late tonight as I thought, and I still need to sanitize my growlers for the other brewery (which doesn't do growler swaps). And I don't have time to get beer before leaving tomorrow, it'd put me at my destination too late.

> I have no idea why I built this! -- Danny2462

Danny is so awesome!

Or science

6:37 PM

Sooooooo Arqade told me today that I had a new comment.. that was 5 days old :(

Have you not checked Arqade in 5 days?

@StrixVaria Nope I am here every day.. and I read that comment and talked to Frank about it in here at the time it was made :D

@James I STILL GET NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT THE LAST MOD ELECTION

@OrigamiRobot LoL, Ok I withdraw my o.O about that then :D

REMEMBER WHEN WE USED TO PLAY MWO?

THOSE WERE GOOD TIMES

6:47 PM

@OrigamiRobot Indeed sir.. Indeed... I hear that game is still just as good, the whole 3rd person camera kind of makes me :/ but I have not played it in some time.

I THINK THEY TOOK OUT TRIPPING WHICH NEGATES MY MAIN STRATEGY

Shucks, it seems ISEE-3 is not long for ~~this world~~ the Sun-Earth L1 point.

140 is a cute little game

Just make sure you do not expect mid-stage savepoints, because there aren't any

If you start a stage you better endure it to the end.

@OrigamiRobot MWO?

@Wipqozn MECHWARRIOR ONLINE

6:57 PM

Fun game, not for people who have no idea what they are doing.

I don't think I can muster the patience for the extra levels though

Died on a jump of the fifth part, back to the beginning with me D:

@Rapitor The first three stages have very forgiving checkpoints.

Sounds like Dark Souls tbh

@badp I was talking about MWO

oh nvm

Long levels with infrequent checkpoints, and if you make a mistake you're reverted back to the last one.

6:59 PM

@StrixVaria The normal stages have a lot of checkpoints. The extra stages have none.

So the bonus (extra difficult) levels are like Dark Souls.

Thank you for validating my decision to skip Dark Souls

I don't think I like playing it.

I'm just going to watch a playthrough instead.

@OrigamiRobot I understand.

Chippies

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7:23 PM

Don't preorder stuff. Ever.

@Frank Unless, yknow, you like supporting whatever retailer or publisher is involved.

Now, what retailer/publisher that means could very well make you a monster.

@OrigamiRobot What does it mean if I pre-order on Steam? Not that I do that ... often

@MBraedley You're supporting whoever gets that money

@OrigamiRobot but does it make me a monster?

Depends on the game.

7:37 PM

Pre-order is still better than early access

Depends on your goal

What I've noticed is every game I get "early access" for, I get tired of it before launch and before it actually has all its features.

@StrixVaria I know that to well.

@StrixVaria When I get an early access game now, I play it for like an hour each time it gets updated.

extra credits on early access

7:40 PM

You just have to not let yourself play all the content.

user15026

@StrixVaria Yeeeeeeah

Arperum

I own War for the Overlord since march, I really want to play it, but haven't because it's not complete yet.

@Rapitor Yeah, that sums it up quite good.

Jul 2 at 20:50, by Origami Robot

The only thing I hate about Early Access is the term itself.

@Rapitor I can't take their videos seriously since their video on "perfect imbalance" was so full of misinformation.

7:49 PM

@StrixVaria I don't particularly like EC either, but he hits the spot regarding early access.

@OrigamiRobot If you like paying for your goods, sight unseen, that's your choice.

Publishers have a track record of over-hyping and under-delivering.

@Frank Except you aren't actually committing to anything.

I don't see a single one that deserves that level of trust.

@OrigamiRobot Except a potential headache down the road.

@Frank Firaxis. I'd pay them up front, right now, for Civilization X.

@JasonBerkan Does Firaxis make Civ? I thought that was a different publisher.

I know they're doing Beyond Earth (which I am looking forward to, yes).

7:53 PM

@Frank 2K is the publisher. Firaxis is the developer.

@Frank If you can't tell someone you want your deposit back, pre-ordering isn't for you.

@JasonBerkan And you're not supporting Firaxis when you pre-order. You're supporting 2K.

@OrigamiRobot When I pre-order, I pay for the whole thing upfront. Makes it easier to walk in, grab, and walk out.

amount is irrelevant

@OrigamiRobot They make it unnecessarily hard to do, for no other reason than to hold onto it. It's one of the aspects of pre-ordering that's anti-consumer.

@Frank If a place makes it hard, obviously you shouldn't be supporting them with pre-orders.

7:56 PM

Though I am a rabid anti-pre-order person. Hell, I tend to buy my games after the hype wears off, so that I can be certain the game is actually something I want to play.

I bought Skyrim last month...

@OrigamiRobot If a place makes it hard, it's not the place; it's the business.

Because they wouldn't be able to do it if every single other place didn't.

If you wanna say "Don't pre-order form [list of places] because they have shitty business practices" I'm 100% with you, but saying "Don't ever preorder ever" is just silly.

I get digital purchases only now, so pre-order doesn't even apply. It does rustle my Jimmys that digital purchases are neglected. no bonus at all for making the developer's life easy

@OrigamiRobot The entire concept of pre-order doesn't help the consumer in any sense whatsoever.

There is no advantage. None at all.

@Frank The advantage is being able to support the places you like.

7:58 PM

> walk in, grab, and walk out.

If you don't like any places, don't support them.

@OrigamiRobot Give me a mom and pop shop that supports pre-orders.

@OrigamiRobot My main problem is that the places I would want to support aren't big enough to get preorder bonuses like GameStop.

@StrixVaria And I haven't pre-ordered anything in...several months.

I think the last one was Lightning Returns, and even that was a mistake.

@FAE Why does it have to be for bonuses?

user15026

7:59 PM

For the stuff I play, it is rare they have bonuses that I care about

Non-chain stores can't get the sponsorship for preorder deals like the big places can, which sucks, and is the reason I hate pre-order exlusives.

The last game I bought at a physical store was Monster Hunter and that was because I made a spur of the moment decision because I happened to see a GameStop near where I was.

@FAE Pre-order exclusives are one of the biggest anti-consumer grabs.

If I still bought console games on a regular basis and Blockbuster was still in business, I'd pre-order from them all day.

Blockbuster was awesome when it came to games.

Or at least, my local one was.

@Frank a lot of times its publishers/stores strong-arming the devs too. I doubt developers actually WANT to exclude content they worked on

8:01 PM

@Rapitor Publishers do.

or be forced to make it

Because it means more money for them later.

If there was a business I wanted to support by pre-ordering, I would be penalized for supporting them, because I wouldn't get the full content.

Any pre-order won't get the full content now.

And besides; pre-ordering just shifts the profits for the business to the front a little. It doesn't actually make them more money.

@Frank Well, I remember getting a bonus CD for preordering Sonic Adventure 2 for Sonic's 10th anniversary

@Frank It may not directly make them money, but it can result in them making more money.

@OrigamiRobot How?

8:08 PM

Having said that, GameStop has irritated me in the past, so I don't like preordering from them. And yes GameStop, I'm still mad at you for not giving me my bonus Zelda disc with Wind Waker GC

@Frank Money to invest now is better than money later.

I still won't preorder anything from you 11 years later due to it

GameStop is probably the worst when it comes to this sort of stuff, I don't know much about GAME, but I'm guessing similar

@OrigamiRobot Dude, it's $5, like you were saying. Are you seriously telling me that your pre-order supports the company to the extent that $5 makes or breaks them?

staff is trained to pretty much force pre-orders down the customer's throat

8:10 PM

@Frank When you're trying to tell everyone not to preorder something, it's more than just $5

@Rapitor I will always try to convince people not to shop at GameStop

@OrigamiRobot If the business you're supporting relies on pre-orders to survive, they're doing it wrong.

Who is even saying this is to keep them alive?

You can support them much more by buying used games from them.

Arperum

@Frank You buying the game now because it sounds good, and once the reviews start to arrive and tell everyone how bad it really is, you wouldn't have bought it.

@OrigamiRobot The amount of income generated from pre-orders is neglible, investment or not. The only reason to pre-order from a company you support, then, is for them to survive.

8:13 PM

@Frank It is not negligible at all.

@OrigamiRobot The difference between pre-ordering and not does incredibly little to bank accounts.

All it does is give the business an idea of how many copies to order.

And what's wrong with that?

@OrigamiRobot Nothing. You're the one arguing it helps the business. You haven't refuted how it's not neglible.

@Frank If they know how many copies to order, they're not wasting money on extra stock.

@OrigamiRobot Which they get back when they return it.

8:15 PM

If the income was negligible, GameStop wouldn't be fighting this hard to keep pre-orders from going away.

@OrigamiRobot They're on the scale that the macroeconomics make sense for them.

At which point, they're too big for their own good, and you don't need to be supporting them in the first place.

I don't think it's them fighting for it. I believe it's the publishers. huge pre-order numbers are a pretty big press point for them

@Rapitor Gamestop is definitely in the game.

Why does it even matter how much it helps? Help is help. Maybe I want the satisfaction of knowing I'm supporting something I enjoy.

They're talking about getting a line in during the dev process, so they can have exclusive content, beyond just meaningless bonuses.

8:17 PM

oh yeah for sure, but not in the scale as publishers. pre-orders just make retailer's life easy as they get an idea on how much to have stock on launch day

blech

At least on Steam, when you preorder a game, you can preload it.

@OrigamiRobot Supporting something you enjoy is great. If you want to support something that is actively hostile to it's consumer base, I'm thinking you have issues.

With brick and mortar stores you have to go back there and pick your copy up, queuing up like everybody else (I suppose?)

preloading is supposed to be coming for consoles eventually

@Frank The concept of pre-ordering is not hostile. Hostile companies use it to be hostile.

8:19 PM

@Rapitor The original XBox One was supposed to have that

@OrigamiRobot The concept of pre-ordering has been hijacked by the publishers to be in their advantage.

people hated the fuck out of it, and some of the reasons for that were very valid

@Frank So don't do business with those publishers.

@badp yeah, they said they were gonna have it for titanfall, but that fell through. Hopefully they'll have it figured out soon.

have the good, without all that bad

That doesn't mean I shouldn't pre-order from a publisher I like.

8:21 PM

22 mins ago, by Frank

@OrigamiRobot Give me a mom and pop shop that supports pre-orders.

That doesn't penalize me ordering from them.

I'm not sure why one would like or dislike publishers; if you were talking store + development team, then yeah, but publisher?

(not that I'll ever get an answer to that question)

I'm not telling you you have to pre-oder form somewhere.

If you don't have somewhere you want to pre-oder from, just don't do it.

publishers can have "questionable" business practices that many people don't like

But I'm saying some people might and you shouldn't tell them not to.

@Rapitor Yes, they can force Spec Ops The Line to have multiplayer, but honestly, that kind of doesn't make or break the game

It's dumb and I paid for that dumb thing and it's super annoying but...

8:24 PM

what was the first game to have pre-order bonus? blame that. It did start as just a nice convenient thing

user15026

:16526048 I am not sure the entire process has, entirely. I can see a value in it, in the sense of judging want for a thing.

I'm not exactly sure how that was offensive in any sense.

Or how that got validated.

user15026

@Frank Sorry, my cat chatbanned you while Iwas replying.

16

user15026

I fixed it.

@AshleyNunn Smart cat :P

8:26 PM

@AshleyNunn Whoops. :P

Norbert 4 Mod 2015

user15026

Oh no he would make a terrible mod. He's so corrupt, does anything for a cat treat.

Corrupt? Sounds like mod material to me!

@AshleyNunn That is hilarious.

@AshleyNunn Just for that, the chat should catban you.

user15026

8:29 PM

@Powerlord noooo not a catban

banishes AshleyNunn to the world of cats

user15026

oh, I thought it was a ban -from- cats. This is better.

Kevin van der Velden

@AshleyNunn THEY HAVE WIFI IN THE WORLD OF CATS :o

@KevinvanderVelden Of course not, she's on normal ethernet.

@OrigamiRobot ethercat cable

8:33 PM

That's why it's called Cat5

user15026

Pretty sure I am stuck in the office til 10 tonight. FML.

@OrigamiRobot It's got five cats in it?

...the world runs on cats. This is somewhat scary.

@Frank 4 for data and one to nap or purr or w/e

@OrigamiRobot So that's why CAT6 cable works faster.

It has an extra cat for data transmission.

Kevin van der Velden

@Frank common misconception, the extra cat is for receiving bellyrubs

8:39 PM

@Frank No, it's still only 4 data cats. You just have an extra nap cat.

They take turns napping and such

Two break cats makes for higher efficiency than one.

@OrigamiRobot Then why is it faster than CAT5? It should be the same speed!

@Frank They get less tired.

Average speed goes up.

I'm back

Glad somebody is happy to see me

Kevin van der Velden

Welcome back

Holy shit

you guys

PneumatiCraft is essentially Factorio in Minecraft

I want to play this now

8:41 PM

@SaintWacko awesome

@SaintWacko Hey, did you try out SimpleRockets yet?

@GnomeSlice I just- I can't even

afsenaiobncvsaeionavnio

I want to be playing now

Right now

But my work laptop isn't powerful enough to run it smoothly

so download that shit

or can you not get it yet

@GnomeSlice I'm going to be in the car for 12 hours starting tomorrow

I'll get it to play then

Nice

I really like it

@SaintWacko Also I was talking about Pneumaticraft, not simplerockets

@SaintWacko oh

> Shattered Planet's sales were pretty good, but not enough to retire on (here's the full data reveal). So we'll be tidying up a bit and improving a few things here and there, but then the whole team is moving full-time to Moon Hunters!

OMFG YES

guys

moonhuntersgame.com

They're moving to full time development

yes yes yes yes yes

The Humble Weekly GamePedia Bundle

Nice return to form for humble

Well, hard to say

Windforge looked awesome but is apparently pretty shitty and buggy right now

Darkout is supposed to be very good; like a gritty Terraria.

Lifeless Planet is supposed to be really neat as well. Been eyeing that one for a long time.

Edge of Space is like a shittier Starbound apparently

Reign Maker. Ugh, those developers are so annoying at trying to promote their games.

Their games are all the same

Paranautical Activity is pretty much first person binding of isaac. It's okay, nothing special.

Signs of Life is also like terraria/starbound/darkout/edge of space/windforge. Has good steam reviews, but I don't know much about it.

lots of those in this bundle it seems

Never heard of Strife

Oh, it's a MOBA

meh

Any questions?

Chippies

@GnomeSlice it is both.

8:52 PM

gimme pls

9:03 PM

Awww yiss

@GnomeSlice Oh, I downloaded FTB Unstable, but yeah, it runs so slowly on my laptop, the first enemy I run into is going to destroy me

@GnomeSlice Haven't heard much about Moon Hunters, but Shattered Planet is fun

Sounds cool

@agent86 @Frank @coronus

32 mins ago, by SaintWacko

PneumatiCraft is essentially Factorio in Minecraft

@SaintWacko I don't play Minecraft.

@TrentHawkins does, though!

@Frank You should

@Frank does he play Factorio?

Feel free to ask him; he's probably kicking around somewhere.

@Frank Oh, I just thought that was why you brought him up

9:18 PM

@SaintWacko Nah; he saw me play Factorio, but it didn't look like it was something he was interested in.

@Frank ah, okay

He could; Factorio's kicking around on the local network.

Q: 2 players, 1 account. Need clearer instructions please

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Could someone give a me clearer explanation on how to have 2 players on 1 profile play on multiplayer? There is an explanation here: Can two users play on a Minecraft server using the same account? However, I'm having some trouble following it. For example, when I change the display name, it w...

minecraft minecraft-server

user15026

@SaintWacko Oh, I like these :)

9:30 PM

@AshleyNunn I know, they're way cooler than I expected :)

user15026

Yeah, they are :)

Unionhawk

@saintwacko I've seen a bunch of that mod, looks neat. It's different, for sure. Lots of neat uses.

SONIC & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES & KNUCKLES

with video

9:52 PM

4

Now that's how to delay a game.

well damn

Q: Do you find sugar cane near water?

10:10 PM

0

One day I needed paper and I turned all of my sugar cane into sugar. So, I wondered do you find sugar cane near water?

minecraft

@AshleyNunn has trained her cat to ban people for her?

Impressive.

@BenBrocka I wish they didn't do the whole thing in Wine's

user15026

@Wipqozn What can I say, I am awesome

Q: Is enabling "Large Address Aware" ability for PC games actually beneficial?

0

I've come across a suggestion for custom-enabling "Large Address Aware" ability for game executables, which as far as I understand, essentially allows 32-bit games to access 64-bit memory space. http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/ http://www.pso-world.com/forum...

starcraft-2 pc

10:29 PM

@AshleyNunn I'm sending you pics of my new nail color

user15026

@FAE Omg that is pretty

user15026

I redid mine the other night :)

@AshleyNunn it's a duochrome color! First is without flash, second is with

user15026

@FAE It's awesome!

@AshleyNunn It's the Tanzanite from this collection

RedRiderX

10:41 PM

Today's Listening:

►

user15026

@FAE Oh man, so many of those are gorgeous

@AshleyNunn they were last year's colors so I got them cheap at the store for only €3 a bottle, grabbed that one, Cobalt, Aquamarine and Amethyst

@badp yeah a bit annoying

oh man

I can use Ubuntu, and Redshift, and Serious Sam 3, at Ultra presets and 1080p, and get almost 120 fps

I honestly didn't expect this

and 152/411 games are available

Q: i need help with my minecraft skin

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Hello I have been trying to use my minecraft custom made skin i have used it in singleplayer and multiplayer working and lately i have been playing singleplayer no problem but when i play multi player i dont see my skin but other people do and yes i have bought minecraft

minecraft

10:48 PM

@AshleyNunn when I was looking at reviews, I saw this site which said duo/multichromes work well over black and other dark colors, so I'll have to try that next time.

user15026

@FAE oooh yes :D

@AshleyNunn also have you ever tried an ice bath after painting your nails?

user15026

@FAE I haven't, no

@AshleyNunn You should. It's really relaxing.

...okay I lied, I've never done that, I just wanted to be part of the conversation. For the stars.

@AshleyNunn It's to help to set the polish quicker, as it'll help set the layers beneath the top coat, which can stay wet even when using a fast drying top coat

user15026

10:54 PM

@FAE oh, awesome!

@AshleyNunn I can really tell the difference in drying time and how well set it feels.

user15026

@FAE I should try that next time :D