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Q: Mails in Steam so i can activate my trading of items

normanI cant receive the mails from steam for deactivation from my steam guard. Thankyou

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Q: No sound on Duke Nukem Forver for PS3

frlanI've started to play DNF on PS3 and installed Patch 1.03. Unfortunatley I don't have any sound on it. It appers to be a common problem on the internet, but didn't found a solution. The sound on other games like GT6 is working fine, as well as on the main menu of PS3. But on DNF it's playing any...

 
@KevinvanderVelden In other words, people die to viruses and bacteria way more often than to animals, aside of other humans.
 
> Dear Tom Medley team,
>
> My name is Clara and I am specialized in helping android developers to better monetize their apps on Google Play. Our premium advertisers are currently looking to buy android traffic at a very high price in apps like Chatsey.
>
> We think you can generate up to $10 CPM with their full screen ads, which are very clean. Indeed, most of our advertisers are willing to pay, on average, between $1 and $3 per installation. You're free to display these ads whenever you want in your app so that it's not intrusive.
 
@fredley Display them on a window beneath the main window, with opacity 0
 
@Sterno Yup. Load in an invisible webview too
Or a 0x0 <iframe>
 
I think REDTUBE ads would be a good fit for Chatsey
 
12:19 PM
@fredley I like how the body of the email is quoted, dear fredley team
Can I call you "fredley team"?
 
@badp That was me trying to multiline quote and failing
@badp You may, badp team
 
@fredley BOOOM
 
@badp What did you do?
 
@fredley I added a > to every line; you forgot the one with Cheers, at least
I also added it to all blank lines for good measure
 
@fredley There is a slight problem though, how is a full screen ad non-intrusive?
 
12:23 PM
@Arperum Because it's invisible
 
@fredley That would be the only way yes.
 
@Arperum I guess that, once the ad is off your screen, every single pixel of the app is taken by your app
 
So basically they are willing to pay you for not showing their ads?
 
you don't permanently lose precious vertical space estate to the ad
 
#fredleysellsout #yolo
 
12:24 PM
@fredley the thing is, how can you not click on a fullscreen transparent ad
 
@badp Exactly
 
@MartinSojka probably, though it could be argued that the mosquito is using the virus/bacteria/parasite to kill the human, and that if that didn't count you would have to say X people killed by cars, X by guns instead of X by humans
 
@KevinvanderVelden Guns don't kill people, mosquitos do
 
*Guns kill people
Mosquitos are better at it though
 
@badp People kill people, with guns
Mosquitos kill people, without guns
 
12:26 PM
@fredley People make guns to kill people
They don't just fall off the sky, yknow
 
People make people make guns to kill people
 
People pay people for making guns to kill people.
 
@fredley mosquitos don't kill people, dying does
 
@KevinvanderVelden I'm not sure you can accuse mosquitoes of intentionally killing humans though (... on the other hand ... nah, that'd be too scary), at most by negligence. Humans and bacteria are actively trying often enough.
 
@MartinSojka true, but if intend mattered in having to split things up from mosquitos to the various diseases they carry you'd still have to split the humans group up pretty badly
 
12:32 PM
Mosquitos with guns would be terrifying.
 
@Sterno Mosquito guns would be more terrifying
Just guns that shoot a bunch of mosquitos at you
 
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Q: How to change username on arqade's mobile interface

user3487713How can I change my username on arqade's mobile interface? I have seen tutorials for the non-mobile interface, but I just can't seem to find the edit button for the mobile interface. Help!

 
What about a gun that shoots mosquitos that have guns that shoot mosquitos that have guns?
 
@KevinvanderVelden depends. If the mosquitos were freshly made, they would barely have had the time to become dangerous
 
@Sterno What do those guns shoot?
Is it mosquitoguns all the way down?
 
12:36 PM
@StrixVaria Full page ads
 
1 min ago, by Sterno
What about a gun that shoots mosquitos that have guns that shoot mosquitos that have guns?
 
@Sterno The ads are for lifehacks
 
@badp lifehacks for how to get rid of mosquitos
 
@KevinvanderVelden by using guns
 
Yesterday I found out apparently people now call things "food hacks" when you do food substitutions
I hate people.
 
12:37 PM
@StrixVaria Yes. Every mosquito is wielding a mosquitogun which shoots out another mosquito wielding a mosquitogun.
 
I don't like the world where that exists.
 
I think you might run into a Zero's Paradox of the Arrow sort of thing here if it's mosquito guns all the way down.
 
@Wipqozn How much ammunition does every mosquitogun has? or do you end up with a shitton of mosquitoes with an empty gun?
 
or one of his other paradox's. I can't remember anymore
 
@badp my brain formed the thought "This seems impractical" then I realized we're talking about guns that shoot mosquitos who have guns...
@Sterno Zeno's arrow IIRC?
 
12:38 PM
@Arperum The guns actually produce the mosquitos as they fire using energy from a black hole. Or something.
Point is, never ending mosquitos.
 
@Wipqozn Oh, so they can basically keep firing. so you just get turned into a mushy paste by the sheer flood of misquitoes with mosquitoguns.
 
@Arperum Yes.
 
I just had oreos for the first time in my life
 
If each gun had a single shot you'd still have infinite mosquitoes, it'd just take longer until you were pressed to paste.
 
The important thing to remember is that mosquitos are powered by their sheer hatred of all things not them.
@Arperum This is correct.
 
12:41 PM
@Wipqozn MOSQUITO DALEKS? :O
 
@KevinvanderVelden that's horrifying.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Pretty horrible, aren't they?
 
@KevinvanderVelden I think we have some cookies at my parents that have an oreos flavored filling or something.
 
@Wipqozn EX*bzzzzZz*TERM*bzzzzz*INATE*bzzzz*
@Sterno they kinda are
 
Now I'm thinking of Mosquito Weeping Angels.
 
12:41 PM
I've never understood why people like Oreos.
 
@StrixVaria well that's just horrible.
 
I'm not sure if they're any worse than regular Weeping Angels.
But regular Weeping Angels are pretty terrifying already.
 
Now I want to release an angry mosquito stream upon certain people.
 
They're worse because they're a lot smaller and therefore harder to see.,
 
@StrixVaria you'd just look at them and they would fall from the sky and shatter into tiny pieces
 
"Don't blink" isn't as effective when they're the size of a grain of rice.
 
@Wipqozn aah! But as long as they think you're looking at them they freeze, you don't have to actually see them
 
those don't even have guns in there hands™
 
So that was the key to beating the angels?
 
@Sterno Yes
 
12:46 PM
Fire Moffat. Hire me.
3
 
Clearly you need to wear those eyeglasses backwards
 
Or just fire Moffat.
2
 
@Sterno I am fine with this.
Even better: Demote him back to a regular writer again.
He was fantastic when he was just a writer, and nothing more.
 
So I now have the request to make to link to a newsletter "sexier" by adding a screenshot of said newsletter...
 
@Sterno Amy Pond was walking around with her eyes closed and they were all frozen in one episode
@Arperum ... to a porn site? :O
 
12:47 PM
@Arperum web 0.1 all over again?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Because they thought she could see her.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Nope, not even close.
 
which, by the way, was not at all how they originally worked.
 
@badp closer to -1.7
 
Originally it wasn't a reflex they could control. It was a forced action.
 
12:48 PM
@Wipqozn yes, because they thought she could see them, I have no idea how that worked but =p
 
5 hours ago, by Arperum
IF I TELL YOU TO PLACE THE PICTURES IN FOLDER "A" FOR YOUR WEBSITE DON'T PLACE THEM IN FOLDER "A/mysubfolder's fancy like this" FOR FUCKS SAKE.
That is for the same client...
 
@Arperum oh gods
 
@Arperum so you take a photo of your newsletter printed out and put on a wooden table, and then you take a photo of that and put it on a wooden table, and then...
 
I also don't understand why bullets didn't smash the hell out of them
 
Fire Moffat from BBC and let him work with @Arperum's clients
 
12:49 PM
and the whole "take a picture of it and now the picture can get you" thing was dumb
and basically Moffat is awful
 
@Sterno Because magic, or something.
@Sterno He ruined his own creation!
He was the one that originally came up with the weeping angels, and then he manages to ruin it once he has made show runner.
 
The worst part is that the newsletter is mostly text... So I'm making a screenshot of some text to link to that text. (Because it has to be a screenshot)
 
@Arperum but it won't work without wooden tables.
 
Oddly enough, monsters are scarier when you have clear-cut ways to defeat them.
At least, that's how it is for me.
 
@Yuki as long as that way isn't "Apply physical force to monster"
 
12:52 PM
The Angels were actually more frightening before they became basically unstoppable.
 
@Arperum They're still technically in Folder A...
 
@KevinvanderVelden Well, qualifying with "apply moderate physical force".
 
@Yuki yeah, when they were these few monsters that would sneak up on you when you weren't looking they were way scarier then when it was just an army of them apparently surviving on radiation now
 
NEW TOPIC: Wipqozn, why is he so gosh darn handsome? What's up with that? DISCUSS!
 
There's this sense of "I gotta keep doing this one thing so I can stay alive". Now, when an Angel shows up, might as well just give up if you're not with the Doctor.
 
12:54 PM
@Yuki my headcanon ignores the whole "pictures of weeping angels are weeping angels" thing and the statue of liberty thing.
 
@TrentHawkins OH GOD THE STATUE OF LIBERTY THING
 
@Wipqozn room topic changed to The Bridge: General Arqade chat room, wherein you are hereby allowed to be Wrong on the Internet so long as you're not any more awful than Wipqozn, and that's a tall order. It's true! [-context] [goats] [lazers] [-lel] [lifehack] [maximum-overjin] [murder] [-wipqozn]
 
There's no fear because, for me, fear always comes with at least one way of escape as unlikely as it is.
 
@Yuki You can escape death from angels through suicide! GO!
 
I know, that sounds somewhat wrong, but that's how it is for me.
 
12:55 PM
@badp So...because I'm really handsome?
@badp Angels don't actually kill you. They just displace you in time.
 
@OrigamiRobot That's not how you website though.
 
@Wipqozn no no no no you are pushing useful information out of my brain
 
@Arperum Just sayin.
 
 
@badp they could also displace you in position at the same time
 
12:57 PM
@badp They are called Weeping Angels because they cover their eyes with their hands, which makes it look like they are weeping. They do this to prevent themselves from freezing each other by looking at each other.
 
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Q: Crew rank in gta 5 online

michaelHow come when I got online today my crew rank was at 17, the other day I was 127, why did my crew rank drop?

 
@OrigamiRobot Yea, I know, but come rambling that you website suddenly lacks photos.
 
Side note: I killed the Heide Knight in the Forest on my first attempt.
 
btw, just in case you weren't aware: &butiwouldratherbereading= is a thing that exists on Qwantz comic pages
 
@Yuki Someone is bad at DS II
 
1:13 PM
@5pike The best way to not be bad at these games is to never ever get close to them ever
 
@badp Learn their pattern, the rest is cake
 
do not care
get on my level
 
@5pike Heide Knights are somewhat more unpredictable than most, but they're not that bad.
 
(of not caring)
 
I literally cannot tell when they're going to do their two-strike or three-strike combo.
 
1:15 PM
@Yuki Yeah, but they also have their openings. Don't get greedy and you are good
 
@5pike Yep. At SL15, I became the proud owner of a Heide Knight Sword.
 
@Yuki I didn't attack him when I first saw him sitting at the tree. Thought he was important for later.
 
@5pike Same. And then I decided to look it up because I was too curious.
 
I only had a dagger and a broken sword (I think).
 
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Q: Powering a Redstone Lamp on top of a Piston

LukeI am trying to design a street lighting system which is controlled by a light sensor. What I would like to have is for the redstone lamps to be lowered, flush with the ground, during the day but at night a piston below raises them up from the ground and they switch on. At first (having had no e...

 
1:18 PM
Also, SL 1, because deprived.
 
@5pike I should do a Deprived run some time.
 
@Yuki Best class IMO - you start with nothing, but you can choose your path exactly how you like it.
 
@Yuki There's a trick to the Heidi Knights which makes them a lot easier.
 
@5pike I went with Knight because I eventually want to wield ultra greatswords and use miracles.
 
Find out about this 1 weird food that makes Heidi Knights flee in fear!
 
1:22 PM
@Yuki I don't care much about miracles and magic (in this run). Only Str-Dex
 
@5pike what about unicorns?
 
@badp Maybe next run
 
@5pike Butbutbutbut Sunlight Spear!
 
@Yuki I use the normal spear
Does the job nicely
 
I've been thinking about playing through Dark Souls again.
I never actually did the DLC, so would take the time to do that as well.
 
1:33 PM
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Q: Is there other way than buying the upgraded animation of a hero?

HagenobinolaloI saw drower ranger's upgraded animation, which i really liked. So my question is wheather we can get the animation in other ways like gifting or eanring by playing or something rather than buyin it?

 
@Lazers That isn't about BF3, is it?
 
@5pike nope, dota 2
-___-
 
@KevinvanderVelden Are you sure?
you need to be careful about editing the tags of a question to labelling correct the name.
 
@Wipqozn drower ranger is a stupid typo for drow ranger, who recently received an upgraded animations
 
Makes sense.
 
1:37 PM
So I'm like 99% sure and if wrong there's always the rollback feature
 
well the concern is that users will post an answer thinking it's DOTA 2 when it's really about something else.
It's probably DOTA 2 though, based on what you said. I'll just ask the user to make sure.
 
@Wipqozn Pretty sure it's about dota, because there is no such thing as a "drower ranger" in bf3
 
@5pike well, no, he obviously tagged it wrong.
I'm just saying it could be about a different game. I agree it's probably about DOTA2.
 
@Wipqozn right
 
We've had this problem before, where a user edits a question which is tagged wrong and then it turns out they tagged it wrong when they went to fix it.
 
1:39 PM
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Q: What do Trainer Levelups Do?

BlackVegetableIn Penny Arcade's On the Rainslick Precipice of Darkness 4, both trainers and monsters levelup. I understand that monster's gain attributes on levelup and that both monsters and trainers gain abilities on certain levels but what about the levels where the trainers don't gain an ability? What ef...

 
@Wipqozn That's why if you have someone working on your show with the same idea of what's cool as a 6-year old, it's important to put some peers in the room with them to keep them in check and filter "magical lazer ponies that shoot sharks out of their eyes with fins made of mosquito guns" down to just "mosquito guns". Because mosquito guns are awesome
 
@Sterno It's like why the prequels are crap but the originals were good.
People were willing to tell lucas when his ideas were stupid before.
 
Star Wars Episode VII: MosquitoSabers All The Way Down
 
om nom nom I made a quarter cup of lemonade
 
I like to be more direct about it: "When in doubt, don't review." Seriously, we don't need more reviewers. I don't know why Stack Exchange feels the need to incentivize/gamify the review process like this. I'm sure responsible people don't need carrots hanging in front of them for them to want to help review new contributions. I'd rather have 100 responsible users reviewing 1000 posts a day than 1000 badge whores racing each other over those same 1000 posts. — BoltClock ♦ Apr 25 at 17:03
 
1:45 PM
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Q: What does BM stand for in Hearthstone?

Panagiotis PalladinosI keep seeing a phrase like "BM fatigue" in hearthstone stream chats in twich. The context is that the streamer's opponent dies from fatigue and the whole chat says that phrase... So what does BM stand for?

 
This is part of the reason I don't review as much as I used to. It's a waste of time. Some users are too trigger happy when reviewing, which results in more mistake and lower quality results from reviews. Users that take more time on a review (like I like to) just don't have time, and then edits get approved or rejected which shouldn't.
I also find the new review queue harder to use since it's designed around you not actually leaving the queue to moderate. I always leave the queue..
I go to the post itself to review.
tl;dr I dislike the changes made to the review ages ago QQ
 
> So no, I'm not required to be able to lift objects weighing up to fifty pounds. I traded that for the opportunity to trim Satan's pubic hair while he dines out of my open skull so a few bits of the internet will continue to work for a few more days.
 
> It's important to keep in mind that random != uniform or equal distribution. It's completely natural for random systems to included clusters, and for the human brain to interpret those clusters as patterns (even where there are none).
I can't believe a blue even bothered to post on that thread.
 
@OrigamiRobot They choose the most ridiculous posts to respond to. I get a strong feeling they aren't allowed to comment on anything of substance.
 
1:57 PM
Yea, they're only CMs, but every talks to them like they're devs.
 
@Wipqozn Has Boltclock forgotten that everything on StackExchange is gamified?
You'd think someone who is a mod on the largest site on the network and has been around for 5ish years would realize that by now.
 
> The only reason coders' computers work better than non-coders' computers is coders know computers are schizophrenic little children with auto-immune diseases and we don't beat them when they're bad.
 
2:12 PM
@Sterno Heads.
@Wipqozn Good luck finding 100 responsible people doing 1,000 of anything a day for years out of the sheer goodwill of their hearts
 
user15026
@badp there is that. Obviously that wasn't happening, or they would not have needed to make any changes to how things work with the new notification and such.
 
@AshleyNunn I might have missed these news.
but personally I think the review badges being at 1,000 tasks is the problem
Put the bar at 200 for gold and that's plenty.
 
@Sterno desks face
 
50 reviews for a silver are also a lot
 
Badges are dumb
 
2:23 PM
@Sterno Watching my various different kinds of Internet points go up is very important to me.
 
@StrixVaria I only care about the ones tied to actual rewards.
 
user58869
@StrixVaria you should play world of warcraft
 
And I stopped caring about those around 10k
 
user15026
@badp yeah, the 1000 one is really unreachable, in a lot of ways. It's almost unmotivating because it feels impossible. Especially on sites with smaller queues.
 
@StrixVaria Points are mandatory.
 
@AshleyNunn They really should have it scale to something, be it userbase or total questions on the site.
 
Progress Quest has more depth!
 
@Sterno But progress quest looks like ass.
Especially the browser version.
 
@StrixVaria So does that site
 
Did they really need to put a full windows XP background behind the relevant window?
 
2:26 PM
Wait. There's a browser version?
This is the best day ever.
Demicanadian Battle-Felon, begin!
 
> Doing this all day leaves you in a state of mild aphasia as you look at people's faces while they're speaking and you don't know they've finished because there's no semicolon
 
If only all the computers here weren't not Windows XP so that it looked more natural.
 
@StrixVaria I read a whole chapter yesterday \o/
Go me!
 
@OrigamiRobot Awesome! I wrote a whole chapter...since Monday.
I'll probably put it up tonight.
 
Writing is harder than reading so that's fine.
 
2:31 PM
I wrote 800 words this morning.
Hopefully no pastries this time.
 
@StrixVaria Chapter of what? :O
 
5
Q: When is Spring in the USA?

jaydz49I am from Australia and want to visit the United States of America in the spring season. I am unsure of when the American Spring is.

 
@LessPop_MoreFizz When Australian winter is coming.
 
Woo CSS hacked the stupid Windows XP background away!
 
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2:35 PM
@StrixVaria some CSS can clearly fix this
@Yuki Oookay.
 
@badp Apparently, prints "Hello, world".
 
@Yuki Yes, that's from the appropriately named "Ook" language.
 
@Yuki I'm assuming you copied the hello world example?
 
@Yuki I'm aware
 
@Yuki This language is the same as Brainfuck except instead of 1 character per instruction it's two Ooks per instruction.
 
2:37 PM
An esoteric programming language (sometimes shortened to esolang) is a programming language designed to test the boundaries of computer programming language design, as a proof of concept, as software art, or as a joke. The use of ' distinguishes these languages from programming languages that working developers use to write software. Usually, an esolang's creators do not intend the language to be used for mainstream programming, although some esoteric features, such as visuospatial syntax, have inspired practical applications in the arts. Such languages are often popular among hackers...
 
ChatSEy 1.1 released
Login now easier for older Android users
 
@StrixVaria that is brilliant
 
@StrixVaria IIRC, it's 1-2 depending on the instruction.
 
That site is where I first discovered esoteric languages
 
2:40 PM
I wonder if that doesn't enable awesome tricks like jumping in the middle of one instruction to execute a completely different one
@OrigamiRobot better news still
 
Someone needs to write an Ook program that is an interpreter for Brainsfuck
 
@KevinvanderVelden I'm sure it's been done
 
@KevinvanderVelden Ook and Brainfuck are the same language
 
@OrigamiRobot Nope, always even.
 
Just different syntax
 
2:41 PM
@Sterno Are the posters on the blizzard forums getting stupider?
 
@fredley that was said 10 lines ago =p
 
@Wipqozn No. I just select the gems for you.
They've always been plenty stupid.
 
And Ook and Brainfuck are childs' toys compared to Malbolge
Malbolge is a public domain esoteric programming language invented by Ben Olmstead in 1998, named after the eighth circle of hell in Dante's Inferno, the Malebolge. Malbolge was specifically designed to be impossible to write useful programs in. Weaknesses in the design have been found that make it possible (though still very difficult) to write Malbolge programs in an organized fashion. Programming in Malbolge Malbolge was so difficult to understand when it arrived that it took two years for the first Malbolge program to appear. That program was not written by a human being: it was ge...
> Malbolge was specifically designed to be impossible to write useful programs in. Weaknesses in the design have been found that make it possible (though still very difficult) to write Malbolge programs in an organized fashion.
 
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Q: Remove donated troops during preparation phase

Tal ShyarAny one know of a way to remove the troops that someone donated during the preparation phase? One of the clanmates donated lvl 3 giants to everyone when lvl 5 wizards were available.

 
@fredley That thing is a monstrosity.
 
2:42 PM
@fredley best language is still the only Armok aprroved language: Armok
 
> Malbolge was so difficult to understand when it arrived that it took two years for the first Malbolge program to appear. That program was not written by a human being: it was generated by a beam search algorithm designed by Andrew Cooke and implemented in Lisp.
 
@Arperum Seems you're right. My memory banks must be failing.
Speaking of memory banks, did anyone else have one of these:
 
@Sterno It just seems like they are getting worse with every gem.
 
@OrigamiRobot AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I FORGOT THOSE EXISTED
 
@OrigamiRobot is that a tape playing robot? :o
 
2:45 PM
@StrixVaria LET ME ACCESS MY MEMORY BANKS beep boop beep boop boop
@KevinvanderVelden It had special tapes that asked you questions.
 
@OrigamiRobot even more awesome!
Oh well, going home time :)
 
Skydrift recently discovered the concept of Robots and now wants all the robots
 
@Sterno hides
 
@Sterno I approve, robots are awesome
points Skydrift to @OrigamiRobot
 
We have a book that's basically just a bunch of pictures of things and the names of those things. There are probably 200 pictures in there. One picture is of a robot. She calls it the robot book.
 
2:49 PM
@Sterno Start showing her Transformers. Rescue Bots is great for young kids.
 
@StrixVaria it had an other brother:
 
@Krazer intriguing.
 
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Aktywny wypoczynek (Travel, Outdoors, Sports and Fitness in Polish)

Proposed Q&A site for pytania dotyczące podróży, sportu, wędrówek i innych form aktywnego wypoczynku w języku polskim (Polish language Q&A for active time activities, like travel, outdoors and sports)

Currently in definition.

 
2:55 PM
@BenBrocka Well, at least it has fancy lights.
It's still terribly overpriced
 
Yeah I have a feeling the controller and cases will be the only legitimate selling points of these
and since they're all going to be several hundred dollars that's pretty crazy. They should sell DIY sets of a "console" style case, steam controller and a steam os install disk if you want
 
@fredley I like how being able to use that programming language for anything is considered a weakness.
 
@BenBrocka That would be great, but they won't.
 
I don't see any of this ending well. No one's going to give you console-esque power-for-the-dollar. No subsidy, no/insignificant bulk discount on parts since they're not making millions of them. They'll never beat raw parts cost
And if you didn't care about value per dollar you could buy a prebuilt gaming PC already
 
@5pike of course it's going to sell for a lot: it was the only way you can buy a Steam Controller right here and right now
..
oh nevermind
 
2:59 PM
That's also the normal retail price announced
 

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