The Bridge

StrixVaria

7:00 PM

I'll buy Skullgirls eventually.

GnomeSlice

I scored one of those ones and it said 'Skullgirls beta (to be revoked) as the product being activated

StrixVaria

I'm still only 12 hours into FF7.

user15026

@GnomeSlice to take away/reverse/undo

user15026

not sure specifically in this context what will happen

GnomeSlice

I know what revoked means, I meant what does that mean in terms of my steam thing

Is it like only beta access?

user15026

7:00 PM

Like it might just be a key that lasts as long as the beta does

user15026

and then when it isnt beta, you have to pay for the game

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice It might mean they'll kill your beta access after the game releases?

The Beta will continue on after release, Lab Zero said they're going to do a think like the TF2 Beta where it always lives on and gets patches whenever they test

GnomeSlice

It's probably not even worth downloading it then

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka I am just innately bad at the genre. There is nothing that can fix it.

Ben Brocka

the beta keys they're throwing out like candy might not be valid for the long-term beta though

StrixVaria

7:02 PM

@OrigamiRobot I am also bad at fighting games, but they're really fun.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Eh, I used to think that too. IMO the main thing is that most fighting games are TERRIBLE at teaching you to play fighting games

user15026

@StrixVaria I am terrible at them. Like completely so. But I love them anyhow.

StrixVaria

My general approach to fighting games is to find a mixup and build an attack pattern out of it and then to repeat it forever.

Once you figure out what I'm doing, I can't adjust.

OrigamiRobot

As long as I can beat the AI in MK, I am happy.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice It releases august 22nd so it's at LEAST until then, and I don't know if they're actually planning to revoke it then anyway

GnomeSlice

7:03 PM

As long as I can make as many slutty outfits for Leixia in Soul Calibur as I want I'm happy.

StrixVaria

I don't think on my feet very well while I'm playing fighting games.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot SG (now) has decently easy AI at low levels

badp

@BenBrocka the TF2 Beta was kinda worthless

Aubergine

@GnomeSlice Thanks for your help with the 360 casual list! I shall make good use of it.

Ben Brocka

a problem the Console demo had was their "sleepwalk" AI in the demo was INSANELY brutally difficult

OrigamiRobot

7:04 PM

@StrixVaria I do this and/or hope the other person doesn't know about blocking (my sister)

GnomeSlice

@Aubergine Did you see the updated one?

Ben Brocka

They patched it out of the main game, but it's a bad first impression

GnomeSlice

I added some things.

Ben Brocka

The demo's sleepwalk was at least as hard as the current version of the game's hard difficulty

GnomeSlice

I highly recommend the first six in the indies section

OrigamiRobot

7:05 PM

As Scorpion: Spear > Uppercut > Shadow Step > Repeat

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria The point of mixups is that you can't figure it out, at least not 100%

user15026

@BenBrocka Oh hey, that's my birthday :P

Aubergine

@GnomeSlice I only saw that you said you updated it. I'll take another gander.

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka Yeah, so I still hit you occasionally.

Unsafe mixups*

Let me be clearer :P

Ben Brocka

And SG makes (simple) combos really easy, since you can almost always chain light > medium > heavy attacks

OrigamiRobot

7:06 PM

@BenBrocka I don't want to buy a game I know I'll be bad-mediocre at

StrixVaria

Because I can't be bothered to learn frame recovery data.

Ben Brocka

So if you can get a poke in you can at least do a few hits and do some damage

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka Speaking of which, how does this map to a 360 controller where there are only 4 face buttons.

That's one thing that worries me about picking up the game.

spugsley

HI BRIDGE!

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria SG is focused more around cancels than frame recovery, you'll be fine for shorter combos. And they're changing the Infinite Prevention to limit the super-long combos to make the game more focused on resets than single long combos

@StrixVaria Triggers, though you can map shit however you want. It works just fine on pad. There's 6 buttons and two macro buttons (for assist/whatever)

StrixVaria

7:08 PM

@BenBrocka Ew.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria It really works just fine

StrixVaria

Trigger buttons in fighting games is far from fine.

Sterno

@spugsley Giant Wasps are trying to kill you!

GnomeSlice

I didn't realize the developers of Skullgirls hired ZONE as an animator... hahaha, that's hilarious

He makes Skullgirls porn

destructoid.com/…

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria Use the shoulder buttons then, they're digital not analog

spugsley

7:09 PM

@Sterno WAT WHY

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Really? o_O

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka It's more about the awkward positioning than how far I have to press it.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice He took the animation test. They hired him because he's an animator, any article that says otherwise is full of shit

StrixVaria

I still miss the old big-ass Xbox controllers with 6 face buttons.

The black and white buttons were crucial to my ability to play MvC2.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Yeah, I know, but it's still funny.

Given his hobby

Ben Brocka

7:09 PM

@StrixVaria Do you not hold your fingers right over the shoulder buttons at all times?

badp

@BenBrocka They did a second round and I missed that too

Sterno

@spugsley Our is not to question why, ours is but to run in fear from giant wasps.

StrixVaria

@BenBrocka The shoulder bumpers are awkward; they're usually on the triggers. But pressing a trigger or bumper in correct timing while also using the joystick and/or face buttons is a pain in the ass.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria I've never really had a problem with it. You can always use an arcade stick if you have one, or a keyboard if you want...but the gamepad's almost certainly going to be better than the keyboard

StrixVaria

Keyboard isn't even an option.

GnomeSlice

7:11 PM

It was actually probably a pretty good move, ZONE is a great animator.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria Non-FGC people were saying "how can they let PC people play with PS3, the PC people will do better because keyboard!" and I'm just like "bro do you even fighting game?"

Though I have had someone INSIST keyboard was a viable option because you can press arrow keys really fast

StrixVaria

Can't you just use the d-pad if that's your goal?

If that is even a useful thing to do.

Anyway, hopefully you just don't have to use fierce/heavy/whatever attacks all that often.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria Yeah, I find the keyboard much nicer to "roll" with

StrixVaria

They're generally unsafe to just throw out for no reason anyway.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria They're quite useful after you get a hit confirm, but you usually have plenty of frames to get the input in to chain

Powerlord

7:14 PM

@BenBrocka I'm beginning to think they're confusing fighting with FPS.

Ben Brocka

you can cancel a medium into a heavy at almost any point, including recovering

@Powerlord Yeah I think they just have no idea why PC players perform better at some games or they have no idea that not all games control like an FPS/RTS

I mean if you want to play Super Meat Boy with a keyboard you be my guest...

Blem

►

Powerlord

Also, is VirtualBoy Advance still the standard GBA emulator? I haven't been keeping up on it and last I checked, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga wasn't on the 3DS eShop yet

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord I still use it, never had much issue with it

3DS eshop has NO GBA games for non-ambassadors

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Wow, really?

user15026

7:17 PM

@Powerlord Really really.

Powerlord

Glad to see Nintendo isn't being idiots... oh wait.

Ben Brocka

They're handing virtual console releases about as well as they always have

user15026

@BenBrocka Pretty much, yeah

Ben Brocka

"Earthbound is the most requested game? Give us 4 years and we'll release that right away!"

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Which is why the Wii had a total of, what, 6 N64 games over the entire life of the console?

Ben Brocka

7:18 PM

@Powerlord More than that, but it had very many notable omissions

I think they're still missing Bomberman 64

Ugh I keep meaning to make a Skullgirls tutorial for super-newbies

user15026

@BenBrocka Please? :)

Ben Brocka

You know what would be sweet, if Nintendo was like "All Wii virtual console titles are out on Wii U virtual console, also all Nintendo first party games for all consoles. Wii U just became an actual legitimate, legal alternative to emulators. BOOM". But no that's not going to happen

Instead they're probably like "Well...we sold more than the Ouya. AMIRITE"

spugsley

@AshleyNunn My work got featured TWO places today :3

user15026

@spugsley ooooh, super awesome :D :D :D :D

spugsley

@AshleyNunn :D toemail.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/charlotte-north-carolina-3 and brokenlightcollective.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/…

user15026

7:27 PM

@BenBrocka This would be nice

spugsley

Am I famous yet? :p

user15026

@spugsley I'd say yes :P

spugsley

:DDDDDDDDD lol

user15026

@spugsley you are one of the coolest people I know :P

spugsley

d'aw :3

Sterno

7:30 PM

I hate people on SO. Seems like the average user sees a question come in, googles the answer, finds the identical SO question, copies the answer from that, and posts it as an answer to the dupe.

Lazers

0

Q: 2 players, both with gamepad on FIFA 2013

Is it possible for two players, with both using gamepads? I just need a confirmation before buying this game.

-3

Q: What torchlight 2 character is the most unique?

Note: I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm just looking for solid analysis. My experience is with D3, however the other day during a steam sell I picked up TL2. I created an outlander and started off to kill the world. However as I leveled up I noticed that this character felt a lot like ...

diablo-3 torchlight-2

GnomeSlice

@Lazers uh

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Yeah...

spugsley

@Lazers ughhh really?

GnomeSlice

5

Q: How Do I Unlock Anti-Air Defensive Towers?

There are three defensive towers to choose from when fortifying your platforms: Machine Gun Artillery Anti-Air However, I'm almost done the second chapter of the game, and so far, my anti-air towers have always been 'greyed out' in the build menu. How can I access them?

oil-rush

user20683

7:39 PM

@spugsley Dat Chiaroscuro <3

GnomeSlice

How the hell did that end up with the defense grid tag

Trent Hawkins

@GnomeSlice dunno, looking at the revision history, you did it a year ago.

GnomeSlice

I don't know why I would have done that

user20683

Your motives are a mystery to all

Ben Brocka

"Can I post and monetize videos of Devolver games?" Answers here: http://canipostandmonetizevideosofdevolvergames.com/ Retweet at your leisure.

Tweeted by devolverdigital on August 5, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Hah, I like these guys

Trent Hawkins

7:42 PM

@GnomeSlice oil-rush got un-tagged (somehow), and while fixings tags you just quickly put in defense grid?

GnomeSlice

I doubt it, but I guess so

Sterno

how does this answer the question? — Daniel A. White 2 mins ago

You have 78k rep! If you don't think it answers the question, downvote it!

I'm starting to hate SO more than I hate SciFi

Powerlord

@Sterno What makes you think he didn't?

Sterno

@Powerlord Maybe he did > 3 minutes later, but I was the first one to downvote that.

Don't try to ruin my raging. The Bridge has consistently failed to produce any drama lately, so I'm looking to manufacture it elsewhere.

Sconibulus

-1

Q: Can 2 players play on different controllers?

Is it possible for two players, using separate controllers, to play at the same time?

fifa-13

...wat?

No, two people have to share a controller, the game magically knows which person each of you is trying to control

FEichinger

7:52 PM

It's asking whether couch MP is still a thing, I assume.

That said, prior to the edit it made even less sense. Had to read through it a couple of times myself ...

user15026

@FEichinger That was my guess

FEichinger

That said ... The original revision also featured a platform-dependency for PC in the tags.

Which makes that even more ridiculous.

In hindsight, I would probably have added a pc back in ...

Sconibulus

shouldn't that be like... "Can two players play on the same machine?" though?

asking if they have to use seperate controllers just seems weird

FEichinger

Well, we can't be sure as to what the question really is supposed to be ...

And this way it at least sounds somewhat reasonable.

RedRiderX

8:06 PM

Ok, so lets say I was thinking of getting into anime, having almost no previous knowledge of it.

What should I start with?

FEichinger

@RedRiderX If I start suggesting stuff, assume I'm drunk and I'm just tricking you into crap. Because that's likely the case.

RedRiderX

@FEichinger I'll make a note for future reference.

GnomeSlice

@RedRiderX Robotech

Coronus

@RedRiderX Sword Art Online is good.

user20683

@RedRiderX Full Metal Alchemist is the usual gateway drug

user20683

8:10 PM

however, I generally recommend based on genres people already like

user20683

so what sorts of shows or whatever do you like? What do you dislike?

RedRiderX

@Coronus A show based on books based on games?

Coronus

@RedRiderX Yes.

RedRiderX

@WorldEngineer Eeerm, I don't watch much normal TV. >.>

user20683

@RedRiderX books? films? games?

RedRiderX

8:11 PM

Doctor Who is the only modern thing I can think of.

Steampunk as a art-style is neat.

user20683

@RedRiderX Lost Exile though it's more Diesel Punk

user20683

also Steamboy

RedRiderX

Umm. I should be more prepared for this.

@WorldEngineer Oh right I have heard of this.

Lazers

-1

Q: Is there a visible difference between 60 FPS vs 120 FPS in gaming?

Is there a visible difference between 60 FPS vs 120 FPS? I am going under the assumption that the monitor is your standard 60 Hz monitor. I've heard arguments that you would want a higher FPS for first-person shooter games then 60 FPS. I am looking for a good answer that actually has some techni...

hardware

1

Q: In the map named "The Puzzling," what is the solution to the room with two blocks containing 9 grass and water square combinations?

This map is for Starcraft and it's expansion Brood War. There used to be a ton of walk-throughs for this map, The Puzzling, and it's sequel, The Puzzling 2. The idea is a team of 3 must solve each puzzle in order to reach the end. "Everything has a purpose" is the maps motto, as every peculiar de...

starcraft

user15026

@RedRiderX FMA!

user20683

8:13 PM

@AshleyNunn I beat you to it :)

Coronus

I have to agree, FMA is something you need to try.

user15026

@WorldEngineer :( but it is awesome so that is okay

StrixVaria

@RedRiderX NARUTO AND BLEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

user20683

@StrixVaria oh FFS

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka It would be appreciated!

StrixVaria

8:14 PM

@WorldEngineer BEST ANIME AND YOU KNOW IT

user20683

FMA is what I use to get people with five little words: "Why are they burying daddy?"

OrigamiRobot

@RedRiderX FLCL

user20683

@StrixVaria I generally dislike Shonen

Fluttershy

@RedRiderX Cowboy Bebop. It's short, and it's really good.

user20683

particularly long Shonen

user15026

8:15 PM

I also liked the melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and Hare+Guu

user20683

@Fluttershy actually that's about the on the money

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria DON'T FORGET ONE PIECE! BELIEVE IT!

user15026

@WorldEngineer .....I hate you

StrixVaria

@WorldEngineer I honestly do like both of those settings, and the battles and such, but the series are coordinated terribly.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria While I'm sure you're being sarcastic... I actually enjoy Bleach. =(

Coronus

8:15 PM

DRAGON BALL Z!

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy I've watched a ton of it, and I wouldn't have if I didn't like it.

user15026

@Fluttershy I liked what I watched of it, it is just a huge committment

user20683

Ghost in the Shell: SAC

StrixVaria

I think I would enjoy an abridged version more, though.

user20683

stay the hell away from Neon Genesis Evangelion until you've got at least 5 shows done with

StrixVaria

8:16 PM

I loved the Ichigo vs. Byakuya battle (the first one), where Ichigo was the "good" guy with all black energy beams, and Byakuya was the "bad" guy with all white energy beams.

It actually was really well-done, visually.

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn Bleach is a huge commitment. 300+ episodes or something. I watched most of it in Iraq.

FEichinger

@WorldEngineer Oh come on, couldn't you at least wait for me to suggest it? That would've been fun.

user20683

@StrixVaria Given that "White is Death" in Japan and China, that makes sense

RedRiderX

@Fluttershy Ooh Space bounty hunters.

user20683

@RedRiderX actually no

RedRiderX

8:17 PM

These are a lot of suggestions

user20683

Trigun is Space Cowboys though

user20683

sorta

user15026

@Fluttershy I watched a lot of it (100ish eps) to try to impress a girl

StrixVaria

@WorldEngineer You literally just ruined all of anime for me.

Fluttershy

@WorldEngineer Ooh. Another good choice. That or Outlaw Star.

Coronus

8:17 PM

I couldn't stick with Trigun.

Fluttershy

Also, Full Metal Alchemist.

user20683

@StrixVaria :(

Fluttershy

And then Brotherhood.

Coronus

Outlaw Star, good one.

user20683

@StrixVaria genuinely sorry about that.

user15026

8:18 PM

@Fluttershy This.

StrixVaria

@WorldEngineer I may have exaggerated a little, but I liked the scene (I mean 3 episode battle) a lot more before I knew that.

Also what is with all those combat-oriented animes giving the main character the lamest power and everyone else around him the most badass powers ever.

user20683

@StrixVaria feel free to ruin my perceptions of something sometime. I'm a tad of a challenge since I basically huffed Post-Modernism for 4 years as a humanities major.

Fluttershy

@RedRiderX Mine is best suggestion! :D

user20683

Madoka Magicka is good

Fluttershy

I would consider avoiding FLCL as an introductory anime, though.

StrixVaria

8:20 PM

@RedRiderX Feel free to ignore my suggestions.

Fluttershy

Definitely watch it. Just don't start there. <_<

RedRiderX

@StrixVaria There are so many!

user20683

@Fluttershy I watched the thing twice.

user15026

@Fluttershy Yeah no, not a good start point

user20683

I'm still made of WTF on it.

user15026

8:20 PM

@WorldEngineer you poor dear

Coronus

I'm in the middle of Shingeki no Kyojiin. I like it.

user15026

@WorldEngineer It keeps getting recommended to me. Haven't watched it yet.

user15026

@Coronus Also on my to watch list

user20683

@AshleyNunn I marathoned Serial Experiments Lain and Elfen Lied back to back

Coronus

@WorldEngineer I need to watch both of those again.

user20683

8:21 PM

Code Geass is decent.

user20683

as is Trinity Blood

StrixVaria

DEATH NOTE

I only watched the best anime in college.

Fluttershy

Why is that a thing...?

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy A&E

FEichinger

@Fluttershy Humans. Are. Stupid. Accept that fact already.

2

user15026

8:24 PM

@Fluttershy Because it is a non-terrible show (I dont super love it, but it has grown on me. The book the guy wrote, though, is a piece of trash)

user15026

(Its basically a giant religious tract)

user15026

aaaaaand thus my redneck side is showing.

FEichinger

Canadian Redneck ... Go figure.

Fluttershy

The only good redneck show is Swamp People.

Fact.

user15026

@Fluttershy It is pretty awesome.

StrixVaria

8:25 PM

Call of the Wildman

Call of the Wildman is an American reality television series that airs on the Animal Planet network. The third season of the series is currently airing. The show follows the exploits of Kentucky woodsman Ernie Brown, Jr., nicknamed "The Turtleman". Aided by his friend, Neal James, and his dog, Lolly, Brown operates a nuisance animal removal business, catching the animals without harming them and releasing them back into the wild. The series is primarily filmed near Brown's Lebanon, Kentucky, home. Brown began catching snapping turtles from ponds near his home at the age of 7. He came to ...

user15026

@FEichinger ....

user20683

@AshleyNunn Hooser :P

user15026

@WorldEngineer Born and bred, I think. It's in my blood. Or something.

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn What did you expect?

user20683

@AshleyNunn I thought your blood was maple flavored whiskey

user20683

8:26 PM

like all Canadians

user15026

@WorldEngineer I'd check but that would be creepy

FEichinger

@fbueckert Seen?

fbueckert

@FEichinger A github link doesn't tell me what it does.

FEichinger

@fbueckert RemoteTech updated for playtest in .20

There we go. That's what happens when people don't fill in stuff in their READMEs.

At any rate, it's the real one, at last.

It's pretty much a rework of the whole thing rather than patching up the old one (or the various hotfixes from the community).

Fluttershy

@Yawus You around?

Also @StrixVaria?

StrixVaria

8:40 PM

@Fluttershy About Skullgirls?

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria Yar. I'm gonna pick up the 4-pack on Wednesday. Your share would be $11.25, so if you're wanting to just reimburse with a game of equal value, I'm fine with that.

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy I can do that. If you can receive payment via credit card on PayPal or something, I can also do that.

If you opt for a game/games, just let me know what to buy you.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria I actually have no idea. Let me check. <_<

It looks like you can. I'll ping you with my PayPal email address on Wednesday!

StrixVaria

@Fluttershy Ok, sounds good.

Actually, I might not be home Wednesday/Thursday too much.

It might be easier for me to pay you in advance.

user15026

throws rocks If a movie has been out (including theatre time) for 3 months, and I say "please don't spoil", like, dear friend, don't be a dick and then go "you had forever to see it" and tell me the whole movie

OrigamiRobot

8:46 PM

@AshleyNunn They did that after you asked them not to?

user15026

@OrigamiRobot yes

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn I say they are no longer your friend, then

OrigamiRobot

@AshleyNunn It doesn't matter how old the movie is, that is a dick move.

Fluttershy

@StrixVaria Ah. Okay. I messaged you on Steam with the info. Letting you know here in case you're not actually around your Steam PC at the moment.

user15026

@SaintWacko I was like I am sorry I dont spend every moment seeing movies like you do

Sconibulus

8:47 PM

@AshleyNunn Do you know that anything they said actually happened?

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn I would have slammed a hand over their mouth to shut them up

user15026

@Sconibulus It makes theoretical sense for the movie in question.

Sconibulus

Because I might do that and give a plot unrelated to the movie, other than what was spoiled by trailers

user15026

Either way, lies or no, its a dick move

Sconibulus

but that's because I'm kinda a jerkface

user15026

8:48 PM

@SaintWacko This was online, so I couldn't

user15026

Although I did get VERY grumpy

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn Oh

Well, then, I would have disconnected :P

GnomeSlice

indieroyale.com

SaintWacko

And blocked them for a few days

GnomeSlice

The current Indie Royale is freaking great.

3

user15026

8:49 PM

@SaintWacko This is basically what I did

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn Good :)

user15026

@GnomeSlice Definitely intrigued but saving money for rent next month is slightly more pressing....

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn How about a star instead? :)

@AshleyNunn rent stinks =[

user15026

@GnomeSlice Yeaaaah, it does. People keep wanting money so I can live in their space and use their utilities...

badp

They've finally uploaded this run of L4D. I thought it was pretty good.

StrixVaria

8:53 PM

@Fluttershy Oh wow, it showed me your last name when it went through.

Well, at least I know I typed the email address right :P

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Ooh, SOTS The Pit is great

Everyone should get the Indie Royale

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Star that shit

Also I've been eyeing SoTS for a while, but no money

SaintWacko

lol

won't let me

Sconibulus

@SaintWacko I couldn't figure out how to actually use things like boxes

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko What, why

SaintWacko

8:56 PM

There it goes

It errored

Sconibulus

L for loot didn't work, neither did beating it with a stick

SaintWacko

@Sconibulus <kbd>Space</kbd>

Sconibulus

...oh

SaintWacko

LOL

Sconibulus

Space means wait though :)

GnomeSlice

8:56 PM

@SaintWacko Also, Sentinel is really nice, but kind of hard. QRTH-PHYL is just super unique and really cool. Heard great things about Tower Wars from friends.

SaintWacko

@Sconibulus In what?

Sconibulus

nethack... sporkhack...

I think crawl maybe?

SaintWacko

Hm

Nope

. is wait in crawl

or 5

That's what I'm used to

Sconibulus