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user20683
7:00 PM
@Powerlord I think it overheats in less than that from the firing speed
 
@WorldEngineer I was expecting an answer like, say, $400,000.
Of course, Heavy's math is... suspect to say the least.
 
user20683
@Powerlord however much a couple of pounds of uranium costs
 
Weird how I don't get a thumbnail for that
 
user20683
yeah, that's odd
 
> and i don't understand this "Bug: You may find that Hammer’s viewports are all totally black. This is because Hammer is running with a different branch of Source from the game you are working on. If you encounter this, Reset the Source SDK Game Configurations." on this page developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Getting_Started.
facedesk
 
7:03 PM
@fbueckert What game is this about anyway?
 
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Q: Hammer editor black view port

MotubetI downloaded Half Life 2 from Steam and the Source SDK. When I open the Hammer editor and click new map, it gives me black view ports. I also get black view ports when loading other maps. Are there settings that I need in order to have something visible in my view ports? I followed the guide he...

 
The tool in question, the Source SDK, is this close |-| from being removed from Steam.
The reason being that Valve is now shipping Hammer and the other tools with their respective games or as an "Authoring Tool" for a specific game (i.e. "Portal 2 Authoring Tools")
As for the Source SDK code, that's now a Github thing.
 
user20683
@Powerlord Depleted Uranium costs about $6 per gram
 
user20683
assuming you can get clearance to get any
 
7:13 PM
I DID. and i manually changed gameconfiag.txt to make half life 2 show up in the sdk list. — Motubet 4 mins ago
"Help me fix this problem I caused!"
 
Excellent! Orbit achieve.
 
@Wipqozn Congratulations!
 
Okay, next I'm going to land on EArth.
once I do that I'll start building my own ships
 
Next challenge: Achieve a circular orbit.
 
@fbueckert That's what I have now.
 
7:16 PM
@Wipqozn Periapsis and Apoapsis are close to the same altitude?
 
user20683
@Ullallulloo not quite the same thing, that's a chunk of yellowish rock
 
+/- 1 km?
 
@fbueckert Yes
well
they were
now I'm decreasing them to try and land on earth
I mean kerbin
 
Nicely done, then.
Next challenge: Achieve orbit along the ecliptic.
 
@fbueckert I'm not sure what that means.
 
7:17 PM
@Wipqozn Your orbit should be along the equator.
Rather easy, since that's where the launch site is.
Which, really, means you just need your heading to be either 90 or 270 when doing your gravity turn.
Tag. Burninated.
 
There1 Landed back on earth.
In the middle of the ocean.
How do I retrieve my kerbals? Or do I just end the flight?
 
@Wipqozn If you want to retrieve them, you'll need to build a plane/helicopter to go get them.
Or just end flight. That'll destroy what's left of your craft.
 
@fbueckert Is there any reason not to just end the flight?
Getting them with a plane would be cool and all, but I don't feel like doing that quite yet.
 
@Wipqozn OCD-ness?
I appreciate the concern but I would not have added the tag IF the game was the same on all platforms! — Young Guilo 1 min ago
Does anyone else play these games? And can lend credence to their need?
 
@Wipqozn There's gonna be a new system for ending flights and handling crew with the next version, for that matter.
 
7:28 PM
@fbueckert No hard data, but I wouldn't be too surprised by any differences between platforms. For example, Angry Birds has more free levels on Android than on iOS, probably because the Apple users are more willing to pay
 
@MadScientist I just checked. The Kindle Fire uses the Android OS, so he should be using that platform tag, if any.
We don't need one specifically for Kindle Fire.
 
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Q: reduce the size of the army of particles in liquid war

rubo77In Liquid War each player has an army of particles. It would be cool to get the clue of the mechanisms, if you could reduce the number of particles and slow down the game to a speed, where you could watch each particle to battle. Is this possible?

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Q: Enemies in Happy Jump?

Young GuiloIn Happy Jump for the Kindle is it possible to kill or defeat the flies? If so how can I do that without possible dying?

 
@fbueckert Yes, there shouldn't be any difference between Android and Kindle, they are distributed via different App Stores, but probably not different in most cases. Though I'm sure some idiot developers have some exclusives for different stores, if they already manage to add a dozen different preorder DLCs to every game they publish.
 
If there's an actual difference that needs to be addressed, I'd say leave the platform tag.
I'm unconvinced it's needed, though.
 
I'd generally assume it to be unnecessary unless receiving any evidence that there are platform differences, but I wouldn't be suprised by some extreme stupidity in creating artificial differences by the publishers
 
7:36 PM
@fbueckert I agree that is unnecessary. Doubt he will, though!
 
This usually usually gets very...touchy... over his questions, doesn't he?
 
Mod change and lock? Or... Stick with a shitty tag that he may or may not perpetuate?
Alternatively: merge into
 
@Fluttershy locking prevents answering, not really appropriate here
 
@Fluttershy I think it's best to just him be for now.
 
Can't lock just tags unfortunately. Or even just edits
 
7:39 PM
@fbueckert left a comment asking hi to change the tag.
 
I prefer to suspend users that ignore my instructions instead of locking, but I'm in the minority in that regard
 
So I think just giving some time to do that and perhaps cool off might be best.
Maybe someone could pipe in and just explain to him why we want him to remove the tag, instead of just telling him to.
Someone who isn't @fbueckert. That way he'll see that it's not just one user trying to force him into something.
Just don't edit the tag. Give him some time to do it himself first.
 
@Fluttershy This could cause problems if a developer ever releases Kindle Fire exclusive content. Otherwise this seems like the best course of action
You seem to be asking about a game on Kindle Fire, a device that runs on the Android OS. In that case, you should use the android tag to indicate that you are asking about the Android version of the game. — murgatroid99 7 secs ago
I added that to the most recent question
 
@murgatroid99 theoretically they could use Amazon's play money couldn't they?
question does'nt need Android anyway
 
@BenBrocka He seems to think that the version of the game he has works differently than other versions, which is our use case for platform tags
 
7:52 PM
@Wipqozn Amazon forked Android from the Google version with the Kindle Fire in such a way to lock users to the Amazon Appstore and lock out the Google Play app store... there are ways around it though...
 
@murgatroid99 I severely doubt you can kill enemies in one version but not the others
"the blue bird splits into 3 birds on Android. Is that the case on iOS?"
 
@BenBrocka I don't know. I don't know the game, so I defer to the judgement of the person playing it that there are version differences. If you don't think there are version differences, take it up with him
 
user43095
2
Q: Best AMD Catalyst Application Profile settings for SimCity (2013)

EasyDotI have a AMD RADEON HD5970 graphics card, which are using Crossfire technology. What are the best settings for SimCity (2013)? I have experienced some flickering in the game when Crossfire is enabled. I read something about AFR friendly mode will help a bit.

 
user43095
Close it already!
 
What I'm saying is the onus is on the tagger to prove that it's platform specific
If you're asking because you don't know how the game works, you're asking about the game. If you're asking because something that works on one platform doesn't seem to work on another, you're asking about the game on that platform
 
7:56 PM
@BenBrocka I get that. That's just a completely separate issue from the / problem
 
@murgatroid99 Not really. They're two platforms like any other
and unlike console v mobile there's no reason to assume significantly different gameplay (unlike console Mirror's Edge and mobile Mirror's edge which isn't remotely the same game)
 
@BenBrocka The entire point of the conversation we've been having for the last hour is that they are one platform because they are the same operating system, and that shouldn't exist because it is not a different thing from
 
Either way the platform tag shouldn't be on there
 
@BenBrocka I'm not the one you have to convince
I appreciate the concern but I would not have added the tag IF the game was the same on all platforms! — Young Guilo 35 mins ago
@Krazer How does that matter once you're in a game?
 
> Quick time events are, er, quicker. You have less time to hit that one button.
Making quick time events harder with increased difficulty is the worst.
That's the laziest and most artificial difficulty increase imaginable.
 
8:06 PM
@murgatroid99 I imagine they'd be the same, sans the non-Amazon Appstore market links and with the additions of using Amazon's in-app purchase API (if applicable)
 
-4
Q: Downvoting a question and not explaining why?

Young GuiloWhen a question is down-voted people should usually tell the asker why! I have a question that has been down-voted twice. No one has answered it and it annoys the hack out of me. This is the question Cortez in Rise of Nations?. Now I know some people are just unappreciative or completely unaware ...

 
Maybe certain features aren't available due to device hardware specifications?
 
@SepiaLazers He's complaining about two downvotes?
 
@murgatroid99 He complained a couple weeks ago about no one accepting his one/two sentence answers.
 
@Krazer that sounds like a really unusual case for an Android game when the game is deemed compatible with the device (besides tablet vs phone stuff)
 
8:09 PM
@StrixVaria Yeah, I don't like that stuff. Unless it's like super-braindead mode on easy and it's just "normal humans shouldn't have much trouble" on any higher difficulties
 
@murgatroid99 4.
-4
Q: Cortez in Rise of Nations?

Young GuiloIs there a special scenario where you can play as Hernando Cortez and attack the Aztec city of Tenochtitlan? If so where is the scenario located (ie. Conquer The World)?

 
@Wipqozn He said "twice" in the question, so I assume that he's only complaining about two of those downvotes. Or that it got downvoted more since he posted the question to meta
 
@Wipqozn I didn't like this question when he first asked it, as it sounds like a recommendation to me.
 
@fbueckert Same here.
 
Increased visibility can lead to increased downvotes.
 
8:12 PM
@Fluttershy especially if your question is that bad
 
This is known.
 
@Wipqozn I checked it out, and, including community created scenarios, there's a ton of them.
 
@murgatroid99 the whole point of the Kindle Fire's systems and other "apperating systems" like it (e.g. Facebook's) is to lock users into using their business model and services. I doubt there is much of a difference in terms of actual content content
 
@Krazer That's my point. The hardware probably doesn't matter to the gameplay, so there shouldn't be a separate tag for the hardware
 
apperating systems? Will they be disappearing and reappearing somewhere else?
 
@Powerlord Only the latter, apparently. Since there are no disapperating systems, things won't disappear!
 
@MBraedley You may fire when ready.
 
@murgatroid99 I know official Google apps that require logins won't work, also not all apps are compatible, but most are.
 
Speaking of fire, I think some people on my normal TF2 server were getting annoyed last night... I kept landing crit flares on them.
 
@Powerlord HACKS!!!!
 
8:17 PM
@Powerlord it's meant to describe a software platform that it's between the OS and the apps that captures most of the attention of the user
 
@MBraedley I mean, they're hanging out near corner and I'm using the flamethrower that switches weapons more quickly... of course I'm going to keep flaregunning them!
Especially when I have half of their team on fire!
 
@fbueckert I seems right...
 
@MBraedley Oh, I agree it is.
 
@fbueckert Why can't you touch it then?
 
8:20 PM
The user disliked me tearing his platform tag out of the questions he added it to.
I've made my attempt at user education. If he wants to keep the tag, I'll eventually flag it for mod intervention. Probably in a few days.
 
If the game was Kindle Fire only (which wouldn't usually make sense), then there might be a need for that tag, otherwise I agree that the tag seems moot.
 
@fbueckert But he's replacing an existing platform tag with a broader one in an appropriate manner.
 
@MBraedley He's replacing a crappy, just made platform tag with the proper one.
 
I don't know if the platform tag is necessary at all though...
 
I don't think it is
 
8:24 PM
Almost guaranteed, it's not.
 
so do we remove the platform tag from the question? or sit on it?
 
@Krazer At this point, I'd say just leave it for a few days.
There's no reason to propagate an edit war.
 
Ok.
 
Agreed.
 
That said, if someone wants to take a stab at user education to teach him why we don't use it, I wouldn't be averse to that.
 
8:34 PM
@fbueckert The problem seems to be that he thinks that his question is specific to the version on his platform (at least on that one question), which would be a valid use case
 
@murgatroid99 If there is a difference, it's up to him to prove it. As far as I can tell, the game is the same for all of Android.
 
@fbueckert even then, he might still have a case to keep if there is a different version on iOS or something
 
I think we should just explain to him what our policy is, and why you don't think it's specific enough to warrant the tag.
 
I have to leave work now
 
Let him decide whether or not it warrants the tag after we've explained the policy and why we don't think it applies.
 
8:37 PM
I've removed the kindle-fire tag. Unless this game works differently for the various platforms, there's no reason for the tag. — fbueckert 1 hour ago
I tried.
 
@StrixVaria lol.
 
@StrixVaria I call shenanigans
Anyways, to home I go.
 
@StrixVaria Shopped!
 
@StrixVaria My favourite part is I think it's mocking people on Reddit that believe and upvote any shit someone posts.
 
8:44 PM
@StrixVaria ROUND CORNER - PATENT PENDING
 
@Wipqozn umm...when have you ever been the best?
 
@spugsley Always?
 
@Wipqozn HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hahha....ha
@fbueckert I agree. I've seen a few shops in my day. You can tell by the pixels
 
@spugsley I like cupcake shops.
 
@spugsley I now want to make solid color square cupcakes, and sell them as pixels.
 
8:47 PM
@Krazer I too like cupcake shops. And pizza shops.
@fbueckert omg yes
 
Pizza > Cupcake
 
pizza cupcakes
 
@badp You want a solid color square pizza?
I dunno if that works. I'll see what I can do.
 
@fbueckert That doesn't sound like a good pizza.
I like both red and white on my pizza, and yellowish on the borders, and speks of other colors in the middle too for variety.
Dunno about you.
 
@badp Yeah, that's why I don't understand why you want pixel pizza.
It doesn't sound tasty.
 
8:53 PM
@fbueckert I dunno; the joke isn't quite getting through
 
@badp It was a bit of a stretch, anyways.
 
Not me, I want pizza pixels. licks monitor
 
@fbueckert Is there a way to see the relationship between two users?
 
@fbueckert Why?
 
9:00 PM
@YoungGulio care to explain?
 
@MBraedley He won't be able to prove it's not him.
 
@RedRiderX No, but there may be a rational explanation beyond serial upvoting and accepting.
 
@StrixVaria Context
 
Oh, thought they were all on his hungry shark questions.
 
@MBraedley That seems like it would be a legitimate explanation.
"I saw that this user answered my questions, so I accepted them."
 
9:04 PM
@fbueckert Team contacted
 
But I think it's suspect too.
 
I mean, it might just be that he was quick on the accept. I've done it once or twice before too.
Just not 3 times in a row for the same user
 
user15026
flops over I think the best part of my veggie share is that every week I get something I have to research on the Internet before I know how to eat it.
 
:10369285 dead
 
@badp Did you unbox that unusual
because that is one sweet motherfucker
 
9:12 PM
@MBraedley ^_^ Thanks, guys!
 
@Coronus It was a combined effort
I don't have the power to do that on my own... yet
 
I hope Steam doesn't have any more good sales even though there are 6 more days of it.
 
@StrixVaria Oh, you
 
user15026
@strixvaria I keep drooling over everything even though I have no money what so ever.
 
@ShotgunNinja What is your issue with me today?
 
9:15 PM
@StrixVaria I know, right? I've spent my Steam wallet and am thinking it's time to get into the real one.
 
I made the mistake of clicking Edit on Wikipedia earlier today.
 
user15026
Like Castle Crashers. So cheap. Debating if I can shuffle some money around in my budget it get it, but since I had to pay to replace my birth certificate....I dunno if that is possible.
 
I don't know what MediaWiki thinks it's doing, but an editor where it's not immediately obvious on how to edit is a bad editor.
 
user15026
@powerlord oh dear. Did you survive?
 
Thankfully, Edit Source brings up the classic editor.
 
9:16 PM
@StrixVaria I don't have an issue with you; I just thought that was humorous.
 
@Powerlord I feel like it would be easier to learn LaTeX than wiki markup.
 
@Powerlord Wait, what is MediaWiki doing with their editor?
 
@badp Appreciated.
Yup, that looks mighty suspicious, alright.
Just check out our fledgling user's rep page
 
mmm, day 2 pizza was good.
 
9:31 PM
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Q: How does skill damage scale in Cube World?

Sadly NotThe skill descriptions in Cube World outline effects and cooldowns, but they don't seem to outline damage. How does skill damage scale in Cube World, and where can I see this scaling?

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Q: code words in Rise of Nations?

GGMate2I sometimes don't understand the slang in online games what do these mean? ATM DMC BKAM FSR LISG

 
@Lazers that's not suspicious at all. GG next map
 
user15026
@fbueckert that smells might odd to me
 
@AshleyNunn Yup. I could be wrong, but there's a little too much correlation going on in there.
 
as @AshleyNunn knows better than I do, it's out of my hands. We get to spectate and, later, smell the ashes
 
Pay no attention to the rep behind the curtain
 
user15026
9:35 PM
@badp mhm, I know how that goes.... :P
 
I will be happy if it turns out I'm right. If not, I guess my sockpuppet senses need a bit of refining.
 
@fbueckert It might not be a sock puppet but just a friend of the user.
 
@Wipqozn In which case, the voting still needs reversal, as it's not proper voting.
 
@fbueckert Indeed, but either way I think you could claim victory.
 
@Wipqozn I like victory!
 
9:38 PM
@Lazers well, that seems to settle it
 
user30
@Wipqozn Are you lost in ksp?
 
@ThomasMcDonald I'm doing okay.
I've already managed to get a ship into orbit and get orbit around the moon.
 
I did the first two tutorials in KSP and I have absolutely no idea how to build a rocket.
 
THose were with stock / trainig ships though. Currently experimenting with building my own ships./
 
Things snap to what I've built and then I place them and then they're not connected.
There don't seem to be pieces to put things where I want them to go.
 
user30
9:41 PM
@Wipqozn That's essentially all I've managed to do so far...
 
@StrixVaria Training doesn't teach you that, really.
That's all trial and explosions.
 
@fbueckert I mean I don't get how the editor works.
The next two messages I posted clarify more.
 
@StrixVaria Derp. I fail at reading.
Most pieces just connect up and down, through the green node thingies.
You can sometimes attach pieces radially, but that's inconsistent, and not every piece allows that.
 
@fbueckert I was trying to connect cubes side to side.
But I think I may have just answered my own question.
 
@StrixVaria I think I know which ones you're talking about.
 
9:45 PM
I was trying to connect cubes to either side of a cube.
 
Those require rotation to attach.
Which is stupid.
 
But if I choose a symmetry mode, then I could probably get what I was going for.
Once you said that everything was just "up and down" I realized that any mirroring you want has to be done with the symmetry thing.
 
If anyone wants KSP challenges, let me know.
@StrixVaria Doesn't have to be, but makes it much easier.
 
Although the "you can only stack things on top of each other" thing seems kind of like a lame restriction.
 
Dang, that ship managed to get my apo to 50k. But I started to go past it beforeit hit 100k.
I might have just messed up my approach though. I last a bit of stability at one point.
 
9:47 PM
@StrixVaria Even with that, people have built some pretty awesome contraptions.
 
user30
Next challenge for me is to land on Mun
 
@ThomasMcDonald Deadsticking that is challenging.
 
user30
@fbueckert Okay. The next thing for me to do.
 
@fbueckert "Deadsticking"?
 
@StrixVaria You have no instruments to tell you when you're close to the ground.
Eyeball all the way.
Your altimeter lies; it's height above sea level, not height from ground.
 
user30
9:58 PM
the launch button is annoying placed next to the exit button
 
@ThomasMcDonald lol
 
user30
I would apear to have misjudged the size of this engine with regards to the landing struts
 
user30
oh well
 
user30
it will be interesting if nothing else
 
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Q: My music doesn't work on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003)

Krit MillerI have recently downloaded TMNT 2003 for PC, but it has no music. I searched other versions of it to see if they had any music, but they don't. How can I get this working again?

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Q: Theming Bonus:Barbarians are not Civilizations?

MikeI have the Uffizi which has a theming bonus of all Art from the same Era and Civilization. As seen below I have three from the Barbarians all from the Ancient Era and I am not getting the theming bonus. So Am I doing something wrong? Are Barbarians not a Civilization? If not what would be t...

 
10:12 PM
Yep, @YoungGuilo and @GGMate2 appear to be rep farming.
GGMate2 is the sock puppet.
 
YESSSSS!!
MY SHIP IS IN ORBIT
I don't think I have enough fueld to be able to make it to the moon, but I might give it a try.
 
@Wipqozn You still have your next challenge to complete!
 
Although my next goal will be to improve this ship so I can reach the mun.
@fbueckert What was that again.
@ShotgunNinja Yeah, we know. SE team has been informed.
 
3 hours ago, by fbueckert
Next challenge: Achieve orbit along the ecliptic.
 
I hate KSP and everyone who is good at it.
 
10:19 PM
@OrigamiRobot That's only because you suck at it.
 
Of course.
 
user30
 
user30
Jeb looks happy at least
 
user30
Actually what why are those struts so high?
 
@ThomasMcDonald I tried to orbit the moon but I overshot and now my crew is orbiting the sun.
 
user30
10:32 PM
I'm about to run out of fuel anyway
 
user30
... oh shit.
 
@ThomasMcDonald This is a common expression when playing KSP.
 
user30
Jeb didn't die, anyway. But he did just jump into and break some solar panels.
 
user30
ah. I forgot about rcs.
 
@fbueckert yup
ggmate is gone
 
Who is/was ggmate?
 
@Brant A socketpuppet of young-guilo
 
Two days seems kinda short. o_O Is that the norm?
 
@Fluttershy First offense would be my guess.
 
11:05 PM
Shouldn't those users have been merged, though?
 
sigh
 
mmmmmmmmm homemade meatball subs for dinner. I am awesome
 
@fbueckert They may have been.
I don't think they care about preserving the votes of a sock puppet which just exists for serial upvoting though
 
@Wipqozn They weren't.
If they were, then his username would show up on all of ggmate's answers.
And he wouldn't get the accept bonus from self-answering.
 
@fbueckert Ah, right.
 
11:13 PM
Either way, sockpuppet's gone. Let's hope he learned his lesson when he comes back.
 
Indeed good sir,indeed.
 
user30
hm, out of fuel again. Apparently you can't survive a 220m/s collision, either.
 
@ThomasMcDonald That equates to 720 km/h. That's...really fast.
 
@fbueckert ..............................that's what SHE said!
Also it looks like my group member won't be getting me those files I need anytime soon. I think I'll go shower while I wait.
 
@Wipqozn If that's what she said, I feel sorry for her. You need to take better care of her.
 
user30
11:20 PM
or at 140m/s... I think I shall try again from launch.
 
I should figure out how to use maneuvers.
 
@Wipqozn Come in REAL handy for rendezvous.
 
@fbueckert Yeah, I figureit could help me orbit te moon.
 
@Wipqozn Mun's easy.
 
THe tutorial where I already did had it lined up so I wouldn't need to worry. Mun was already in theproper position.
 
11:22 PM
Get Apoapsis out to 11,000 KM, and wait.
Assuming your orbit is along the ecliptic, anyways.
 
@fbueckert Yeah, last time I did that I ended up getting shot out into space since I didn't slow down time soon enough.
 
@Wipqozn Patience is required.
 
and I had to orbit several times before even going into it's gravity.
 
You watch your orbit map like a hawk and slow down time the instant it changes.
 
@ThomasMcDonald You landing on the Mun? Try aiming for 5m/s or less.
 
user30
@MBraedley That was the goal (I was actually trying to get less than 10m/s) - I just ran out of fuel.
 
user30
Shame because it seemed like a pretty decent approach to the Mun. Ah well.
 
@ThomasMcDonald Minmus is actually an easier place to land.
 
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Q: Steam Error: Can't connect to Steam Network on Windows 7

WizdoMy friend and I are trying to solve an issue we're having with Steam. My friend cannot connect to any Steamworks servers (such as Garry's mod/TF2 servers). We have tried: Deleting ClientRegistry.blob, Exiting programs that interfere with steam, Adding rules to Firewall We have posted a ...

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Q: How are weapons enhanced by multiple Spirit cubes?

Sadly NotLike other smelted cubes, Spirit can modify your weapons to add additional effects to your special attacks. When adding multiple Spirit cubes, do the effects increase with the number of Spirit cubes? Can different kinds of Spirit cubes be mixed to provide multiple additional effects?

 
@Ullallulloo That's awesome.
 
11:39 PM
@Ullallulloo Why not just test it yourself?
 
@OrigamiRobot Take a long time, and I may just return it.
 
@Ullallulloo Is one of you not being mayor and sharing the same town unacceptable?
 
@BenBrocka Not really, but this one is:
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A: Is it possible to play New Leaf on multiple systems with a cartridge?

DandichuYou can only play on one system. My friend Beth and I both play, but we each had to purchase the game on our own systems to get it to work. :\

 
@Ullallulloo Oh right
Nintendo's fucking weird about their save data
on the Wii some save data was DRM'd so you couldn't copy it to an SD card, even though there was already DRM to prevent stuff from playing on another wii
 

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