The Bridge

Wipqozn

2:00 PM

@One-One If you come back in 30 minutes we might be done arguing.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn About a game != About gaming

Sterno

@Wipqozn About this. We'll be arguing about something else, surely.

SaintWacko

Morning, Bridge

FAE

@One-One Feel free to stick around if you like, it's also just a general chat room. :)

Wipqozn

@Sterno Well, yeah. We can never not argue.

Sterno

2:00 PM

@Wipqozn Yes we can!

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I don't think screen resolutions such as letterbox or widescreen are limited to gaming. They're generic definitions.

Private Pansy

@SaintWacko Grab a coffee and enjoy the usual slap fight about what's and what's not on topic here

OrigamiRobot

That said, I think the biggest argument for this question to remain open is that the setting is within Skyrim.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot I honestly have no idea what I originally tried to write, so I just changed it completely.

SaintWacko

@PrivatePansy YOU'RE OFF TOPIC HERE

@One-One Yesterday we were debating same-sex marriage, and a few days before that, religion

FAE

2:01 PM

@PrivatePansy This was way funnier to me than it should have been I think.

fbueckert

Knowing what they do in the context of a game, though, is useful, because people can see those options.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I am agreeing with what you said.

Wipqozn

@fbueckert And I'm saying that doesn't it's off-topic here. It's still relevant gamers and something I would say falls within the expertise of gamers.

@OrigamiRobot I thought you were poking fun at my edit.

SaintWacko

@One-One Also, If you'll look at the tags, games are actually off topic here

As is fun

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I disagree.

Private Pansy

2:02 PM

@SaintWacko YOUR FACE IS OFF-TOPIC HERE

Wipqozn

@fbueckert well, it got re-opened, SO YOU LOSE NA NA NA NA

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn Wait, I misread what you wrote. I don't even know anymore.

FAE

@PrivatePansy lol, I was like "What did I say?!"

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I HELPED REOPEN, SO NA NA NA NA YOURSELF!

Sterno

@fbueckert I really, really don't understand how magically the question becomes valid for this site just because it mentions Skyrim.

fbueckert

2:02 PM

@Sterno It's an option inside the game.

Wipqozn

@Sterno I think he's just being really pedantic, which is the best kind of dantic.

OrigamiRobot

2 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

That said, I think the biggest argument for this question to remain open is that the setting is within Skyrim.

Sterno

It's an option in many games. There isn't a whole lot of value making him name one. The question isn't even tagged skyrim

fbueckert

Does knowing what those definitions mean help you if there's nothing in game to change it to those?

SaintWacko

@PrivatePansy Waaaaah! I'm going back to playing Rogue Legacy.

...Because I totally wasn't already planning to do that...

fbueckert

2:03 PM

1

Q: Display Modes Letterbox vs Wide-Screen

In Skyrim graphical options, what is the difference between letterbox mode and wide-screen mode? Can you view more things in wide-screen mode vs letterbox mode?

skyrim

What you say?

SaintWacko

Curse you, @ChristHateZ

Wipqozn

@Sterno It was added with the edit.

Sterno

Okay, apparently I'm crazy

FEichinger

@Sterno A Mint question that doesn't actually mention Mint is on-topic on AU. It's just a matter of context, and that's where a line has to be drawn.

fbueckert

...I think this is the friendliest argument I've had on the Bridge in awhile.

2

Sterno

2:04 PM

So if someone has the same question about a different game with letterbox and widescreen, is it a dupe?

I mean, totally different game!

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria Haha, yeah, that would be a bit OP otherwise. Did you find that out the hard way?

fbueckert

@Sterno Yeah, now we're getting into the wonkiness.

Wipqozn

@Sterno I like this point. It's really good and all that.

Sterno

@fbueckert That's because the game is irrelevant (unless it's crazy and misuses the terms).

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno I essentially read it as "Do Letterbox and Widescreen mean the same thing in the Skyrim options as they mean everywhere else?" It's a really bad question, but technically about the game.

fbueckert

2:05 PM

@Sterno Which is why I think it's too generic.

SaintWacko

In other news, I'm approaching 10k!

LessPop_MoreFizz

Why not just dig up the old terminology tag, and not worry about it ever again?

Sterno

@fbueckert Why too generic? Does it become unanswerable?

fbueckert

Letterbox means X. Widescreen means Y. These are basic PC definitions.

SaintWacko

I think I can, I think I can, I think I can

fbueckert

2:05 PM

Not at all specific to gaming.

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz I, for one, would be fine with this solution.

Private Pansy

@fbueckert Not even PC, I imagine

LessPop_MoreFizz

It's not the first kinda borderline question we've had, it won't be the last. It's a super basic question, and I'm not fond of the lack of research effort, but it's relevant, and isn't so far off base that it makes my eyes bug out.

Sterno

Things do not have to be specific to gaming to be here. They just have to be relevant to gaming.

fbueckert

@PrivatePansy Exactly.

Private Pansy

2:06 PM

Well, one of them is, the other is from cinema

fbueckert

3 mins ago, by fbueckert

Does knowing what those definitions mean help you if there's nothing in game to change it to those?

Yay, I know what these mean! Game does not support them. Well, damn.

Sterno

@fbueckert I think you're reversing the order people tend to look things up. They see the options in a game and google about them, end up here. they don't mindlessly scroll through Arqade questions, see that, say "AWESOME, I BET EVERY GAME EVER HAS THAT OPTION" and then get mad when they're game doesn't

FEichinger

@Sterno I'd fully support a rewrite "I've seen this in a couple of games (e.g. Skyrim, X, Y, Z, A), what does it mean?", and then duping anything related to it there. But keeping it generic without even mentioning a gaming relevance just doesn't do. The original revision simply did not make the connection.

Sterno

For the record, @LessPop_MoreFizz is totally right and this is not worth the discussion.

But hey, it's Friday.

Wipqozn

@Sterno hahahahaha, oh lordy. I'm just picturing someone just fuming at their keyboard after doing this.

Sterno

2:09 PM

It's not really about this question in particular. I just think we're really close happy around here for reasons that aren't in the interest of helping anyone or making the site better.

OrigamiRobot

You know what is worth discussing? Welcome to Night Vale.

SaintWacko

looks suspiciously at @Sterno

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz When is the next episode?

Wipqozn

@Sterno here, have a star.

fbueckert

@Sterno I disagree with you, but I'll leave it at that.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:10 PM

@OrigamiRobot MONDAY

FEichinger

@Sterno In general, I agree with you there. Hell, even in this instance I agree with the sentiment - but sometimes it's really just down to semantics and context - both of which can be improved.

LessPop_MoreFizz

First and 15th of every month.

OrigamiRobot

I can't wait.

Sterno

@fbueckert Yeah, I think we come down pretty opposite on a lot of them. Democracy in action, yay!

Just think of all those poor suckers who can't cast close votes.

fbueckert

@Sterno Muddling through life, disagreements and all!

Wipqozn

2:12 PM

Disagreements are the best kind of greements.

fbueckert

In other news, this weekend is Canada Day! Woo long weekend!

Blem

Private Pansy

@fbueckert The entire weekend is Canada Day?

Sterno

Quick, someone mod me so I can run to their room and tell them they all better behave or else.

Speaking of which, can someone unstar that top message?

fbueckert

@PrivatePansy July 1st is Canada Day.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:14 PM

Really Root Access?

badp

Changing your game settings to run games better is definitely on-topic for Gaming if you ask me

SaintWacko

@badp I'd agree with that

fbueckert

@badp As long as it is a game setting, I agree.

Private Pansy

@fbueckert It's also Singapore Armed Forces day. As a member of said organization, I would prefer to celebrate Canada Day instead

Martin Sojka

Aw, that reminds me, only one more week until the darkest day on Earth.

fbueckert

2:14 PM

@PrivatePansy We get fireworks.

SaintWacko

@PrivatePansy Hehe

badp

@fbueckert "In Skyrim graphical options, what is the difference between letterbox mode and wide-screen mode? I've seen this in other games as well. Can you view more things in wide-screen mode vs letterbox mode? How should I choose?"

FEichinger

@badp Check the original revision.

fbueckert

@badp The edit made it re-openable.

I had cast the first close vote before that.

badp

ehh

"What is the difference between letterbox mode and wide-screen mode? Can you view more things in wide-screen mode vs letterbox mode?"

The real problem is it lacked the reference to a specific game

FEichinger

2:17 PM

Which is all we've been arguing, yes.

StrixVaria

@SaintWacko I was jumping on spikes and stuff, not really playing seriously.

It was a very short run.

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria Heh, nice

What level are you?

StrixVaria

@SaintWacko ~30

fbueckert

Protip: P.A.D is stupid useful.

StrixVaria

I think.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:17 PM

@badp There's a reason I changed the tag.

StrixVaria

@fbueckert What does it do?

fbueckert

You don't set off spike traps.

LessPop_MoreFizz

The question is going to have the same answer for every game ever.

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria Have you unlocked the Shinobi?

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz is it? It could do any number of things; it could change your FOV or not, it could add bars or not, it could do both, it could...

StrixVaria

2:18 PM

@fbueckert I've seen this happen and I thought it was just a fake troll spike trap.

LessPop_MoreFizz

It is a basic terminology question.

StrixVaria

@SaintWacko Shinobi is the best.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Yeah, that is nice

StrixVaria

I would play a Shinobi with vertigo over other classes.

Sterno

@badp My argument is that unless we're being pedantic and require a game to be named as proof that some game, somewhere, indeed has these options, the game name is completely unnecessary.

SaintWacko

2:18 PM

@StrixVaria this. If there's a shinobi available, I will pick it no matter what the traits

StrixVaria

One of my favorite traits so far is dementia.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp It's a question about aspect ratio, not FOV.

FEichinger

@badp As I said, I'm all in favor of making it generic while keeping a gaming relevance (for instance by giving examples of games that feature it), but without any such reference, it doesn't do.

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I found a fairy chest with "Take no damage", and the area was completely filled with spikes.

None of them went off.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz but different games handle different aspect ratios differently

Private Pansy

2:19 PM

@fbueckert And we get to march around and have our boots and uniform inspected by superiors. Like I said, I would take Canada Day anytime

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria I haven't figured out what that does

@fbueckert Haha, that's awesome

fbueckert

I was wondering what was happening, so I checked out what traits I had.

badp

What does the game do with the extra space on the sides of a 16:9 game as opposed to a 4:3 game?

StrixVaria

@SaintWacko I kind of don't want to spoil it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Black bars. That's what letterboxing is.

badp

2:19 PM

That's definitely not game agnostic

SaintWacko

I currently have runes that give me triple jump, and +1 health and mana on kills

@StrixVaria Heh, alright

fbueckert

@StrixVaria Hyperchondriac is amusing.

Sterno

@fbueckert You took 3947 damage!

fbueckert

@Sterno Yup!

Private Pansy

Oh, and we will also miss half a day's training, even though we're already ridiculously behind schedule because of how incredibly poor the Supply and Transport Center's logistics is

badp

2:20 PM

(I honestly can't believe games letterbox anymore)

SaintWacko

@Sterno Oh, That's what that does

fbueckert

@PrivatePansy Logistics is what I love to do.

It's why I love games like OpenTTD and Anno.

StrixVaria

@Sterno Oh, that's why that happens!

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko This sounds like a game I want to play.

SaintWacko

I kept seeing that, forgot I had hyperchondriac

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:20 PM

@badp Skyrim is always 16:9. The letterbox option lets you choose between 16:9 with black bars on your 4:3 tv, or 16:9 at full height and if you have a 4:3 screen, shit is getting chopped off and you don't see half the UI.

StrixVaria

@badp Windows 7 auto-letterboxes 4:3 games on widescreen monitors.

It's actually really nice.

Sterno

What's the flaw that makes my guy shoot his spells out backwards? Is that two left hands?

Private Pansy

2 hours ago, by Private Pansy

The Supply and Transport Center completely fails at transporting us future "Transport Operators"

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I have a curse rune, but all my health regeneration comes from the Blood equipment.

Journeyman Geek

@StrixVaria: it.. does?

SaintWacko

2:20 PM

@OrigamiRobot It is. You will greatly enjoy it. Rogue Legacy

badp

@StrixVaria uh? It's probably a setting in your BIOS.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp It's primarily an option on console games, since the resolution of the tv is generally fixed, but the aspect ratio can vary.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz that's totally a skyrim-only thing

FAE

@StrixVaria This is a property of some monitors I've had, not necessarily 7, I think.

StrixVaria

Pssh BIOS

Journeyman Geek

2:21 PM

@PrivatePansy: We used to call em ground pilots back in my day ;p

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp No, it's a console game thing.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert I have three blood items equipped. I get 7 hp every kill

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz ohhhhh, that kind of stuff.

Private Pansy

@SaintWacko The site seems to be overwhelmed at the moment

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Yes.

StrixVaria

2:21 PM

MODERN ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY auto-letterbox 4:3 games on widescreen monitors.

OrigamiRobot

@JourneymanGeek Yay! A demo! Not enough games have demos nowdays.

Sterno

I really haven't found many blueprints yet. Just two suits of armor (plus whatever you start the game with)

SaintWacko

So on a Shinobi, which kills everything in one hit... :D

fbueckert

@SaintWacko Blood equipment + Lich = overpowered.

LessPop_MoreFizz

So can we please go back to the generic terminology tag?

StrixVaria

2:21 PM

@OrigamiRobot GET IT IT'S SO GOOD

SaintWacko

@PrivatePansy No, It just doesn't always load

badp

Yknow, computer monitors also come in 4:3/5:4/16:10/16:9 versions

SaintWacko

Try again

LessPop_MoreFizz

Check your PC-Normative Privelege @badp.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Oh wow, I didn't think about that

I need to unlock the Lich now

Journeyman Geek

2:22 PM

@badp: isn't there that insanely long ones?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Yes, but computer games allow you to choose the specific resolution, instead of simply the aspect ratio.

Private Pansy

@SaintWacko I'm getting 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable every time

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria What kind of game is it?

Journeyman Geek

@OrigamiRobot a demo of what? ;p

badp

@JourneymanGeek Movies screens are like 1:2.2

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:22 PM

Since computer monitors come in a variety of resolutions.

TV's don't.

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Metroidvania action platformer that tries to pretend it's a roguelike but it's not.

SaintWacko

@PrivatePansy Hm, interesting. It's loading for @OrigamiRobot and I

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria I love Metroidvania!

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I think there's a limit to how much max life you can siphon, but it seems to be inconsistent.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Buy the game. Nao

You will not regret it

OrigamiRobot

2:23 PM

I need to play the demo first, but I am excited.

StrixVaria

Best $15 I spent on games in a long-ass time.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@SaintWacko I am waiting for the mac version.

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz Has one been confirmed?

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot I will gift you the game if you agree to stare at an image of a sloth for 2 full minutes.

3

FAE

@Sterno lmao

OrigamiRobot

2:24 PM

> Mac and Linux versions coming soon

StrixVaria

Even though I irrationally hate macs, that's still awesome since everybody should play this game.

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno 2 full minutes? Hmmmm.

Sterno

With @spugsley verifying.

FAE

@StrixVaria lol why?

StrixVaria

> irrationally

FAE

2:25 PM

@Sterno Or he should put it on youtube.

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno Just an image?

FAE

@StrixVaria Well usually there's like... something, even if it's "they give me the heebie jeebies"

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot If I had a live sloth to hand you, I would. But yes, just an image.

FAE

@Sterno Make it a video

StrixVaria

@FAE I was forced to use them in High School for 45 minutes a day and I hated every second of it.

OrigamiRobot

2:26 PM

@Sterno Not a gif?

FAE

@Sterno So he has to watch it moving.

Sterno

@OrigamiRobot @FAE makes an excellent point.

FAE

@Sterno He's gonna kill me.

StrixVaria

More recently, I had to help someone reformat a hard drive from a mac-only format to a generic format that could also work with windows, and I couldn't do anything on the mac.

OrigamiRobot

If it's a video or a gif, no.

StrixVaria

2:26 PM

It's really, really unintuitive.

Which I found kind of hilarious, actually.

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria I don't have a problem with macs, but I despise Apple and their business practices

StrixVaria

@SaintWacko Also this.

Martin Sojka

Seriously, you look away for a moment (like, less than a decade really) and this happens:

Moons of Jupiter

The planet Jupiter has 67 confirmed moons. This gives it the largest retinue of moons with "reasonably secure" orbits of any planet in the Solar System. The most massive of them, the four Galilean moons, were discovered in 1610 by Galileo Galilei and were the first objects found to orbit a body that was neither Earth nor the Sun. From the end of the 19th century, dozens of much smaller Jovian moons have been discovered and have received the names of lovers, conquests, or daughters of the Roman god Jupiter, or his Greek predecessor, Zeus. The Galilean moons are by far the largest and most...

Private Pansy

@StrixVaria Part of our driving course consists of sitting in front of antique candy colored iMacs running Mac OS 9 playing videos narrated by someone with a rich American accent

Martin Sojka

.... sixty-seven moons

StrixVaria

2:27 PM

I avoid Apple-related iThings more than I avoid EA.

Private Pansy

It's the most enjoyable part of the course for me so far

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria Same. I had to use a Mac for a lab one time in college. Nothing was where it logically should have been.

FAE

@MartinSojka Holy shit. o_O

StrixVaria

@PrivatePansy This is what I had to use in school :P

Private Pansy

Not the actual lesson, but the computers

Which are amazingly cute

Journeyman Geek

2:29 PM

....

Private Pansy

They came from an era where USB ports were state of the art. Fancy that.

Journeyman Geek

whoa....

Last time I saw one was at that wierd little shop (that closed down like 5 years ago ++) that sold neat old crap at SLS

Martin Sojka

And now I want an updated Elite version where I can visit all of them. :D

fbueckert

@MartinSojka ...KSP now needs a planet with that many moons.

OrigamiRobot

@PrivatePansy Funny how FireWire was better than USB and yet it failed.

FAE

2:31 PM

@fbueckert lol, Jochem was just saying he thought they should add the ability to discover celestial bodies in KSP

Private Pansy

The narrator pronounces "vehicle" as a three syllabus word

FEichinger

@fbueckert If only someone had time to make textures and heightmaps for them ...

fbueckert

@FAE They're planning on it, for career mode.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MartinSojka DO NOT DISCUSS EUROPA.

fbueckert

@FEichinger I'm a coder, not a graphics guy.

FAE

2:31 PM

@PrivatePansy Wait, how do you not pronounce it with 3 syllables? "vee-cle"?

Journeyman Geek

@FEichinger maybe procedurally generate them

FEichinger

@fbueckert Same here, and that's pretty much my point.

fbueckert

@FAE "car"

FEichinger

@JourneymanGeek It's rather complicated to make a believable surface. :/

Martin Sojka

@FEichinger Most of them are small rocky lumps; not much of a texture needed, aside from the obvious alien bases and portals to hell and whatnot.

Journeyman Geek

2:32 PM

@FEichinger: terragen? ;p

Private Pansy

@FAE Some people here don't pronounce the 'h', and those that do don't stress it like the narrator does

FAE

@PrivatePansy Granted, some people leave the H silent and some don't, that depends on where you're from, but in general, you usually at least hear "vee-eh-cle"/"vee-hi-cle" or somesuch.

FEichinger

@MartinSojka It still needs to be somewhat different from the other moons. Or, at least a majority of them. :/

OrigamiRobot

@PrivatePansy It's still three syllables without the H

FAE

@PrivatePansy Yeah, the H pronunciation depends. Like @Fluttershy says the H in "vehicle" and "while" because that's more of a southeastern US thing, as I understand it, but I don't, because I grew up in the northeastern US.

Private Pansy

2:35 PM

You know, it is at times like this where I really feel embarrassed about not taking phonetics classes when I was young

OrigamiRobot

@FAE I don't know anyone who pronounces the H in either of those words.

Sconibulus

how do you pronounce the h in while?

FEichinger

@Sconibulus Seconded.

fbueckert

@Sconibulus Nasally.

OrigamiRobot

By exhaling.

FAE

2:36 PM

@OrigamiRobot Maybe more midwest then?

SaintWacko

It's a good thing we don't actually pick up behaviors from games. I think people would be pissed off if I went around swinging a sword at every painting I saw

FEichinger

Like a ... wa-hile?

Private Pansy

@Sconibulus It comes out sounding like "wow" when I try it

FAE

@FEichinger No, it's still one syllable

You can just hear the H, you exhale a little more when you say it

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sconibulus It usually ends up sounding like the h comes before the w.

OrigamiRobot

2:37 PM

@FEichinger Just exhale hard while saying it.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, that's a good way to put it

Sconibulus

Oh... so like Cool Hwip?

FAE

@Sconibulus Actually... kinda, yeah.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I hate to ever reward Seth Mcfarlane for anything, because he is shit and his show is shit, but... this is illustrative:

►

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Martin Sojka

@Sconibulus As a voiceless labio-velar fricative.

StrixVaria

2:38 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz You have the best opinions.

Sterno

Tell us how you really feel.

SaintWacko

@StrixVaria This

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz Family guy is awful and deserves to die.

Sconibulus

@LessPop_MoreFizz I actually like American Dad a fair bit.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot Yes, but it is the best example of pronouncing the h in a wh word I could find quickly.

OrigamiRobot

2:39 PM

No, that's awful too.

FEichinger

@LessPop_MoreFizz That sounds so ... wrong.

Trent Hawkins

@LessPop_MoreFizz Was trying to find that, but could only find vids of people recording their TV with a camera. :/

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger Because it is wrong.

Sconibulus

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Q: What traits are available in the game, and what does each of them do?

There seems to be a good amount of traits in this game, and some of them don't have description that actually lets you know what that trait does. For the sake of proper answer write down all traits available in the game, their description, and their effect.

rogue-legacy

too broad?

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot But it sounds painfully wrong. Not just wrong wrong.

FAE

2:40 PM

@FEichinger wooooo accents

FEichinger

@Sconibulus Is there a limited amount of traits that could be reasonably listed?

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger Because it is painfully wrong. Everything you are feeling is correct.

fbueckert

@FEichinger I think so. I'm not 100% on how big the list is, but it should be reasonable to iterate through all of them.

Sconibulus

@FEichinger Don't know, haven't played. But "There seems to be a good amount of traits in this game" is literally the first phrase

StrixVaria

I would estimate the number of traits to be at least 30.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:41 PM

@FEichinger Actually, here is a better and less exaggerated example, from a far superior fox cartoon:

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FEichinger

@fbueckert Then it isn't too broad - unless "what does each of them do" could be go overboard.

kalina

I think you should know that I am feeling very bored

Grumpy Lazers

-3

Q: Which adventure game has a talking green fish in a wheelchair?

Which game has a wheelchair bound fish with lipstick and orange hair in it? It looks like a 16-bit point and click adventure game, but I don't know for sure. It looks whacky and I want to play it!

game-history

-2

Q: SWTOR Problems Error Code 16

So I got the email, got the validation link, was thanked for verifying, and now I'm being asked to download something? Is this happening to anyone else, and is this really going to work?

swtor

0

Q: What traits are available in the game, and what does each of them do?

There seems to be a good amount of traits in this game, and some of them don't have description that actually lets you know what that trait does. For the sake of proper answer write down all traits available in the game, their description, and their effect.

rogue-legacy

FEichinger

@LessPop_MoreFizz Stop it! I don't wanna. It still hurts from the last time.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FEichinger In fairness, it's also exaggerated way beyond normalcy.

FAE

2:41 PM

@GrumpyLazers ...wheelchair-bound fish...

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LessPop_MoreFizz

@FEichinger The hank hill clip is less painful

fbueckert

@FEichinger Nah. At best, each trait has a specific effect.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I promise.

FEichinger

@fbueckert Then it's reasonably scoped and not too broad in my book.

fbueckert

@kalina Oh no, everybody run!

badp

2:42 PM

...so people says "vee-cle" while others say "vee-hee-cle"?

kalina

@badp VEE HICK UL

Private Pansy

@kalina Here you are brain the size of a planet

StrixVaria

@badp The southern states pronounce everything wrong.

badp

close enoguh

Private Pansy

And you use it to play EVE Online

kalina

2:43 PM

@PrivatePansy and they ask me to speak on the bridge?!

call that job satisfaction? 'cause I don't!

FEichinger

@kalina Why, you're definitely entertaining to others.

kalina

@PrivatePansy you have too much hate for EVE

Private Pansy

@kalina Nah, I just like poking fun at it

FEichinger

@kalina There is no such thing as "too much hate for EVE".

kalina

I implore you to cease your hatred, before I'm forced to declare war on Singapore, forcing you to be deployed and potentially threatening your life with FIRE.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:45 PM

@badp It's more like Vee-i-cull

Journeyman Geek

you and what army? ;p

kalina

I don't need an army, it's only singapore

Private Pansy

@JourneymanGeek For that matter, Singapore and what army?

FAE

@badp It's almost always 3 syllables

Journeyman Geek

@PrivatePansy: eh, the one that keeps wasting my time.

kalina

2:46 PM

one nuclear weapon should be sufficient to remove the "threat" that is singapore

Private Pansy

@JourneymanGeek The one that can't even manage to transport a bunch of trainees to their driving center on time everyday. I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it an army, huh

Martin Sojka

Singapore is rich. Small and rich countries don't need an army until they try to become big and rich countries.

... and for the most part, they then fail. See: Venice.

Sconibulus

@MartinSojka sometimes they get invaded by big poor countries after their shinies

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka Unless they're paranoid and still live with a Cold War mentality

Journeyman Geek

@MartinSojka: We have a very good reason for a big army

its what the battletech universe calls social generals ;p

Wipqozn

2:49 PM

@MartinSojka 67 known moons. There are probably more yet to be discovered.

Martin Sojka

@Sconibulus The big countries might be poor, but their ruling "class" usually isn't. And where would this class then go for their well-deserved vacation far away from the plebs if the small and rich countries aren't there? Where would they stash their money?

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka Venice's golden age lasted for several centuries. That's a pretty successful run by any standard

Sconibulus

@MartinSojka Bitcoins

Martin Sojka

@PrivatePansy 12th to 15th century, more or less. It was a good run, yes. As opposed to some other small and rich places though (like Monaco), they thought they could become big and rich and over-extended themselves though. :)

Sconibulus

Aww man, king just stole my home county in CKII

Martin Sojka

2:54 PM

@Sconibulus Such kings die young, typically.

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka Singapore's army is not small, by the way

Sconibulus

@MartinSojka he has... kinda a lot of territory

Journeyman Geek

technically its every male under 50

Martin Sojka

@JourneymanGeek Sounds like Switzerland.

@Sconibulus The question is, how many people at his court hate his guts. Especially his wife and children.

Private Pansy

@MartinSojka Switzerland allows you to opt for non-military service, if my memory serves me right. Not here.

Sconibulus

2:56 PM

@MartinSojka I don't think many do... I could maybe try an assassination, but I can't afford to fight if he decides he doesn't like me

I've got Orkney, while he and his other vassals control almost all of Scandavia, and England

Martin Sojka

@Sconibulus The idea is to destabilise the realm just enough that his untimely and tragic death will cause a civil war, at which point you can try and support whoever it is that is most likely to give you your rightful lands back after you win over the dirty and treacherous rebels who also claim the throne. Bonus points if you manage to marry off one of your sisters or daughters to him.

... just like real life went, really. ;)

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