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Mysticial

07:00

@MadScientist It would've been only temporary.

user15026

@feichinger it's dairy! That's healthy!

Mysticial

I'm not saying it would work here.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Besides, we already did it as a temporary resort

badp

I didn't blame you I just forgot to ping you until I reached the end of the message

Mysticial

But it works very well in the Stack Overflow rooms.

FEichinger

07:00

@AshleyNunn sigh

user15026

@badp fair enough. :)

user15026

@feichinger innocent smile

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

►

badp

Stack overflow chat is hardly a paragon of good moderation :-P

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

SPACE STALLIONS

Mad Scientist

07:01

@Mysticial It's a barely tolerated solution to the Android problem, not really a model for anywhere else

Mysticial

@MadScientist Has anyone ever tried on the chat.SE servers?

Or does it always devolve into a huge mess of timeouts and manual suspensions?

user15026

@feichinger I found bread. So I will be sensible and have peanut butter toast. Better?

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn Way better.

user15026

@feichinger see? I can be taught.

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn Ahyup.

kalina

07:04

@Mysticial normally it involves the users in questions getting nuked from orbit

user15026

Shush, I am proud of myself

badp

Remember @mysticial that all 300 stack exchange mods have diamond powers here

Mysticial

@badp Yes, I'm aware of that. But it seems that they are all hesitant to actually pull a suspension. Even a simple 30-min one from flags.

kalina

@Mysticial however due to past discussions regarding the subject, non-Arqade mods are reluctant to take action in here

badp

I suppose there aren't flag worthy messages to begin with

kalina

07:06

unfortunately we had none of our own mods online, so it devolved into madness

@badp no, it was a cumulative annoyance rather than individual posts worthy of flagging

user15026

@mysticial tbh until recently I was hesitant because when I did act in here it did not go well.

kalina

we had enough 10k users online to take care of flags

Mysticial

@badp Well you see, at some point you have to call it when "enough small incidences is enough".

user15026

@kalina I am glad I was sleeping

FEichinger

@badp We had Anna Lear clearly saying that disruptive behavior is a reason for suspensions. Instead we were stalled into "create guidelines for that!"

kalina

07:07

@AshleyNunn it was the same deal as lastnight

user15026

@mysticial I don't like that you basically came in here to judge and basically tell us how wrong we are

Mysticial

@AshleyNunn Fair enough. I'll leave.

FEichinger

And I'm out of stars.

badp

@Ashley that is bullshit. I mean, it's bull that you've been blasted

kalina

@FEichinger you're out of stars at 8am?

user15026

07:08

@kalina yeah, I read the transcript. Glad I was sleeping.

Mysticial

I just wanted to throw a few suggestions around. But it seems that wasn't a good idea.

FEichinger

@kalina 7 hours into the system day and I'm out of stars, yep.

badp

@fei ouch. 18 hours left in this UTC day

kalina

@FEichinger this is extremely impressive

FEichinger

@badp Don't forget DST.

user15026

07:09

@badp yeah, it was. I am still rather frustrated over it but I will deal.

FEichinger

@kalina It's because there are ALL DEM REASONABLE MESSAGES

badp

@mystical throwing out ideas isn't evil per se and I appreciate the effort

FEichinger

@kalina Btw, that already happened once yesterday.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

If you want guidelines, we can adopt Wheaton's Law as official policy and ban anyone who violates it

kalina

@FEichinger I've never ran out of stars before the afternoon

even if I star ALL THE THINGS

FEichinger

07:12

@kalina I usually don't run out of them at all. At best, I get the cap around 11pm. But the drama? Yeh, pretty instantly.

kalina

woo I got the level 4 bow

user15026

I don't think I have ever run out of stars.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

This conversation really isn't going anywhere is it?

FEichinger

We can go back to criticizing the mods for not taking action, if you prefer that?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Uh, yeah, sure.

user15026

07:18

@yijiang I have peanut butter and honey toast. It makes me care less about stuff because it is tasty.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Well, I'm hungry for lunch and I need to return some books

user15026

also I learned today that I am a bit obsessive when I can track a package. "has it moved yet? No. How about now? Still no."

user15026

@yijiang I sense a library adventure!

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@AshleyNunn Well, I was in the library yesterday

I wanted to finish the book in the library, but ran out of time

Ooo, that reminds me

I found this block of flat that they're tearing down in Clementi Town center

It's pretty cool. All the shops are closed and abandoned, and all the usual ducts and cables have been ripped out

user15026

That is kinda awesome sounding

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

07:21

I took some pictures with my phone, but I don't think they look good

user15026

I'd be curious to see them, regardless.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

A lot of blurry cam, let me see if I can fix that up a bit

badp

Yay progress

user15026

Buildings like this always look sad to me.

Krazer

07:42

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Krazer There a word for this, and an entire subreddit dedicated to it

Which I can't... quite recall

Krazer

@YiJiang'sEvilClone on flickr, too... I think

user15026

I always wonder if any of it is intentional.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

The "Please ban this guy now" conversation

3 hours ago, 44 minutes total – 241 messages, 17 users, 25 stars

Bookmarked 7 mins ago by Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

See I ~~can't~~ can believe I missed all this shit happening this morning while I was busy directing German soldier's last stand against Allied advances through Axis territory in Operation Market Garden

user15026

Yeah, I am so very glad I picked sleeping.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

07:47

This will probably remembered as the shittiest piece of drama in this room, ever

user15026

Yeah, likely. And if anything challenges it for that position I will be horrified

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Hmmm. You know, I've heard of the theory that the city in Mirror's Edge is based off Singapore, in the future

kalina

OH GOD

that ending was ugly

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Oh wow. xkcd #1190 Time is still being updated

Krazer

08:03

@YiJiang'sEvilClone For the next time things gets out of hand, know that 6 users with 10k+ communicative rep (site-wide) can suspend a user for 30 minutes (per flag) via the spam/offensive flags.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Krazer Yes, but only if the user in question has actually said anything that warrants the flag

user15026

@yijiang that's the important bit.

Krazer

did you guys feel that this bit of drama warranted a flag?

user15026

I was sleeping, so I really don't want to judge.

kalina

@Krazer none of the individual messages were really flag worthy

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:07

@Krazer It doesn't matter what we feel, there are users in other rooms that will judge too

kalina

especially in the context of a little pop up box

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

In my experience, flagging usually exacerbates the problem by attracting unwanted attention

Krazer

all valid points

Lazers

1

Q: Do I lose access to games I've downloaded when they're removed from the Instant Game Collection?

If I download a game from the Instant Game Collection, and it is later removed from it, can I still access it? Do I keep it till I delete it or unsubscribe? PS Plus seems like a great deal but it would suck if I lose access to games I am only halfway through.

playstation-plus

djsmiley2k

weeeeeeeeeee

user15026

08:12

Yeah, in general, because of how chat modding works, if outsiders came in to flags in that particular conversation they wouldn't have been validated, likely, and just exacerbated then problem because now there are unfamiliar people in the mix. While I appreciate why chat modding works how it does, in this case, it would have been problematic.

kalina

we did discuss the use of flags but concluded it would be an abuse of the system

badp

alright, time to make the Android Hell more accessible

user15026

While you can theoretically flag and ban an annoyance you still need just cause.

badp

okay @kalina I need to do some science

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kalina

08:17

I sense I'm about to get ban

oh

brb removing all room owners

whats the room name?

"Android Hell"?

badp

"The Android Hell: This Is The Part Where All The Robots Scream At You."

kalina

nope

badp

@kalina How about now?

kalina

→ 1 message moved to The Android Hell: This Is The Part Where All The Robots Scream At You.

badp

Science completed. Thanks for partaking in this test.

Stack Exchange

08:19

badp has removed kalina from the list of this room's owners.

kalina

np

badp

You still have ownership of the escape pod right?

kalina

I never had ownership of that channel

oh

I apparently do

badp

Good!

As for whether or not you should have room ownership here, I'll let the other room owners decide.

kalina

room ownership doesn't really provide anything useful beyond pinning

I'm really not fussed

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:20

Just curious, you're not going to do anything about those users?

badp

@kalina I'm enabling moving

You know just how annoying moving is

@YiJiang'sEvilClone what should I do? ban them for a day, a week? what for?

kalina

all those times you moved my stuff I wasn't "really" annoyed

badp

It took a great deal to suspend Gnome for months.

kalina

there is an entire list of reasons I could cite - none of them special enough to warrant any action by themselves but it's a cumulative effect

badp

Room owners: I have gifted you the powers of the Android Hell. Use them wisely.

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kalina

08:25

another possibility would be to add all the regulars to the authorised users list or w/e it's called so that gallery mode can be used in the event it gets out of hand and no mods are here

requires a bit more maintenance though

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

> The Texan turned out to be good-natured, generous and likeable. In three days no one could stand him.

badp

Oh whatever. More owners!

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Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina Sure, easily doable. You do need room owner powers for thi-

Uh... okay

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kalina

08:26

it's only a matter of time before @OrigamiRobot removes us all again anyway

Stack Exchange

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Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

As I was saying, you need room owner power to edit that list

badp

If you're a room owner and you see a fellow room owner doing weird shit. Click on their avatar and pick 'remove room owner.' OR I REMOVE YOU BOTH!!!!11one

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

You do not need to actually be a room owner to be always able to speak in this room

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone this is what I was saying

djsmiley2k

08:28

i can haz powar?

:<

kalina

I can't believe all the tomb raider DLC is multiplayer only

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina The game has DLCs already? Also, what sort of multiplayer?

Co-op?

kalina

they've missed an opportunity there I think, because the game is actually quite good but a little short

Scootaloo

@kalina I've never heard of a Tomb Raider game being multiplayer.

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone looks like team vs team

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:29

@Scootaloo Yeah, that seems weird

kalina

@Scootaloo there are two multiplayer tomb raiders

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina It... turns Tomb Raider into a FPS deathmatch?

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone but yes, this is a game that would benefit from coop

@YiJiang'sEvilClone well, TPS deathmatch

Scootaloo

@kalina I didn't play the games (except one or twice), but I can't really imagine a Tomb Raider game being multiplayer.

kalina

@Scootaloo guardian of light is co-op

never played any tomb raider game except the new one though

Scootaloo

08:31

@kalina Whatever the case the multiplayer thing seems to be a gimmick to get people to buy the DLC.

kalina

@Scootaloo highly likely

Scootaloo

I'm reading the comments on an article about the new DLC for it: "No achievements = no buy".

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone standard team deathmatch, team deathmatch that requires melee finishers, free for all, and something that looks like a twist on CTF

Scootaloo

Why are people so bloody stupid?

kalina

@Scootaloo console generation is driven by achievements

badp

08:33

@Scootaloo Gotta get my important internet points!

How else will I brag about my Gamerscore? brb, grinding Minesweeper

Scootaloo

@kalina @badp I've got nothing against achievements, but I don't think that should be the reason to buy it.

kalina

seriously though, if anybody is looking for a game to play, it's worth getting

badp

duh, I was being facetious

Scootaloo

@badp you were the one who gave me my 24 hour ban. Thanks! that actually gave me time to think :). No sarcasm intended.

kalina

@Scootaloo and since then, things got better with you

badp

08:37

@Scootaloo please don't make me do that again :)

Scootaloo

@badp Ok.

badp

I don't enjoy it - unless I get to do science on how many 9s fit in the ban length field

science is enjoyable.

ANY VOLOUNTEERS??

Scootaloo

Pass.

badp

everybody in the room but @Scootaloo steps backwards

Scootaloo

How do I type in italics here?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:39

@Scootaloo chat.stackexchange.com/faq

kalina

@badp you always seem to enjoy it when you ban me

badp

*italics* _italics_ **bold** __bold__ ***bolditalic*** ___bolditalic___ `code`

kalina

:8906654 wrap text in stars

Scootaloo

@badp I got it. Thanks.

kalina

* cake * without spaces for italics

badp

08:40

@kalina You're not him ♫

Scootaloo

test

Yay it works! even though there should be no reason for it not to be working.

badp

Oh! Also ---strikethrough---

All except strikethrough also works in the comment fields.

...and of course [there's links](http://example.org/)

fredley

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

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Scootaloo

I think @FEichinger is beginning to tolerate me again:

in Escape Pod., 5 hours ago, by FEichinger

o7

Context:

in Escape Pod., 5 hours ago, by Scootaloo

@FEichinger as usual it was nice having an argument with you. Nite.

kalina

@Scootaloo regardless of what some would say, we're not evil

fredley

08:43

I wonder what will happen if I move messages out of Android Hell and into Math?

Trent Hawkins

@kalina We're not? aw maaan.

kalina

@fredley they probably wouldn't notice

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fredley Power corrupts...

badp

@fredley First they need to trust you with owner access

Scootaloo

@kalina I don't think any of you [with exceptions...] are evil, but the community here has deep roots to get used to.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:43

@badp Math is a public room though

badp

and Minecraft taught me that bacon cannot be trusted

fredley

@badp Damn

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone oh, good point.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

in Escape Pod., 12 mins ago, by Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp You know that one time I said you should never ever give me room owner permission because I'll probably add r/mylittlepony's /new feed to the room's feed list?

fredley

@badp How...?

Scootaloo

08:44

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Don't bring up MLP please. The last time I did that I got a temp. chat ban.

badp

in Escape Pod., 9 mins ago, by badp

I guess that if you can squeeze the feed through and nobody notices and it posts a wall of ponies... well done, a winner is you?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Scootaloo It's fine. As long as you're not acting like an idiot.

badp

@Scootaloo It wasn't because of MLP, it was because of flagging. We twich are twitch okay with twitch MLP twitch discussion, just don't drag it for hours.

Scootaloo

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Ok.

@badp ???

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Oh you don't say :P I can find conversations where it dragged on for much longer than that

kalina

08:46

@badp or resort to pages of pictures

Scootaloo

I understood I got banned, because of the flagging. However I don't understand what you are trying to say with twich and twitch.

kalina

@Scootaloo badp is not a MLP fan

badp

Oh it's just me twitching. It's not stuff I enjoy, but that doesn't mean you can't talk about it.

kalina

it hurts him to say that MLP discussions are allowed

the main issue at the moment is people

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina Teehee

kalina

08:47

who

talk

like

this

jk

xD

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina jk!

kalina

...

badp

OMFG BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

jk

kalina

for exactly the same reason that posting a page full of videos or pictures is frowned upon

Scootaloo

@kalina Tumblr?

badp

08:49

If it helps, try to imagine "jk" being pronounced literally "jhhkhh", like, yknow, somebody being force-choked to death

Scootaloo

@badp I thought people didn't like MLP and it's fans due to the fact that MLP was being shoved into places it didn't belong to. I can understand that people dislike anything being spammed.

djsmiley2k

hmmm

so i'm helping archive ign, gamespy, gamesutra, gamedevelopermagazine... dang

why are all the gaming sites dying :(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp That sort of works

djsmiley2k

@Scootaloo A star for your insight!

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Almost sort of works

FAE

08:50

o_O Apparently chat keeps exploding the past 2 nights.

badp

@Scootaloo There are more than enough MLP fans here to say that twitch MLP discussion can definitely twitch belong here.

Scootaloo

@badp Do you mind my avatar?

badp

"Screencap" avatars are okay in moderation

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Hmmm. I really enjoy watching @badp twitch. Let's see if this triggers a reaction: PONIES

badp

There was a period when we had too many of those around for my liking but @YiJiang'sEvilClone charitatively fixed that.

Scootaloo

08:51

@badp what? did he force people to change them?

badp

No, he made new ones. Like the one he's wearing

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Excuze moi?

Scootaloo

@badp Actually it's a vector from Deviant Art.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Scootaloo Which is made from a screenshot of the show

Blem

good morning people

badp

08:53

I mean, no one blasts Mana for using Karkat for his avatar.

Scootaloo

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I'm not going to argue.

badp

..or Raven for having used... that other guy

I like to think that this isn't bias (while I do enjoy Homestuck) but just that we aren't overrun by so many troll avatars it gets on people's nerves

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp That giant red shark thingy offends my sensibilities

badp

That said I'm only human and thus biased. Good thing we've got 6 mods :)

Scootaloo

Does anyone even recognize the character from my avatar?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:54

@Scootaloo It's in your display name, hon

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone No no no no no, he was... I think Kanaya for a while. Only pixelated.

Scootaloo

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Well you would know, but those who don't watch the show wouldn't know what the hell it means.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

It's a little hard not to recognise the character

Scootaloo

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Well she isn't from the mane 6 she is only a secondary character.

badp

It's certainly harder to realize than @Fluttershy

Scootaloo

08:55

@badp mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Scootaloo

Trent Hawkins

@badp it's a chicken, what's not to recognize?

badp

@Scootaloo mild twitch

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Ooo, a response *jots down notes for science*

Scootaloo

@TrentHawkins In the back of my mind I thought someone was going to say that.

Trent Hawkins

@Scootaloo I've been sitting on that one for a couple days. I could resist no longer.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

08:57

@TrentHawkins Pfft, I made the joke yesterday

Scootaloo

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Do memes ever expire?

The oldest one I know of is the "too damn high" one.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Scootaloo ~~Yes, when reddit's through with them~~ NEVAR

Weird, that didn't come out right

badp

@Scootaloo All Your Base

Scootaloo

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Doesn't reddit play second banana to 4chan?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Scootaloo That's the point

To overly generalize, 4chans generate memes, and reddit beats them to death

badp

08:59

I tried following a 4chan discussion of Homestuck once. I walked away with a headache

The "Please ban this guy now" conversation

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