The Bridge

fbueckert

15:00

You do need 3K rep before you can do so, though.

Jason Berkan

@fbueckert My problem with the mechanism is that you cannot vote to reopen until the question is closed. I wish you could "disagree" with a close vote prior to five people closing the question.

The review "Leave Open" button is a little bit of help in that regard, but doesn't go far enough.

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan Yeah, the "Leave Open" does nothing different than ignoring it entirely.

Jason Berkan

@fbueckert If enough people click it, it expires the close votes faster.

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan Really? I didn't know that.

Jason Berkan

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A: What exactly happens with the new "Do Not Close"?

Normally, a question must hit 100 views before close votes age away, so as to give enough folks time to see and review it. Questions with close votes stay in the review queue until they are closed or the votes expire. But if enough people (currently 3) select "Do Not Close" within the review que...

Powerlord

15:02

@fbueckert You're taking the word of a Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

fbueckert

@Powerlord No, I'm taking the word of a fellow Canadian.

Powerlord

@fbueckert In that case, if he's wrong, I'll Blame Canada.

fbueckert

@Powerlord That's what you 'Muricans do anyways.

Ben Brocka

@JasonBerkan Same's true of Leave Closed; wish the UI informed you of that some how, I think a lot of people think that button is futile and don't bother

Powerlord

@fbueckert South Park told us to.

Ben Brocka

15:04

And mods get a binding do not close/leave closed vote in that queue, so the votes will start expiring immediately/it's kicked out of the queue

fbueckert

@Powerlord Because South Park is a great role model for everyday behaviour.

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord I've trained my kids to say "Monkey Dishwasher" whenever I say Purple. I'm hoping it will blow their minds when they finally see the episode it is from.

Powerlord

@fbueckert But... they even did a whole song about it!

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OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord with their beady little eyes and flappy heeeaaaads

fbueckert

1 min ago, by fbueckert

@Powerlord Because South Park is a great role model for everyday behaviour.

OrigamiRobot

15:07

I use @fbueckert as a baseline for all my behavior. Basically I do whatever will make him the most annoyed.

Or @kalina

Whichever seems more fun.

Ben Brocka

Can you really annoy a Canadian? They'll just apologize instead

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot If you want to annoy me, buy Monster Hunter.

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Eh?

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Is it for PC?

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot 3DS and Wii U.

OrigamiRobot

15:09

@fbueckert If it ain't on PC or DS, I can't play it.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Then you can't annoy me.

OrigamiRobot

I actually want to play Monster Hunter.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot There's one for Wii.

And a Japanese one for PC.

SaintWacko

10 neutron stars with 10 planets

fbueckert

@Wipqozn and I will be doing the monster huntering together, once it comes out.

OrigamiRobot

15:12

@fbueckert I sold my Wii long ago.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot And who's fault is that?

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot WiiU, actually.

OrigamiRobot

1 min ago, by fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot There's one for Wii.

Wipqozn

@fbueckert We're goinna show that monster whose boss.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Most of them will be little things that die in one hit.

OrigamiRobot

15:13

@fbueckert I'd rather have the money to pay my tuition than have a Wii.

djsmiley2k

heh

my uni phonedm e and told me they'd reduced my fees ( I got some kind of grant)

I went out and brought a 360 :D

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot That's good priorities. I approve.

Ben Brocka

@Wipqozn How many people can play in an online game?

fbueckert

That's the opposite of annoyance, though, so you're not doing so good.

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka 4

OrigamiRobot

15:15

8 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

Or @kalina

Powerlord

@OrigamiRobot Your tuition only costs like $100?

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Well, that's easy, then.

We never agree on anything, so either way, one of us will be annoyed.

Ben Brocka

@Wipqozn Thinking about getting the wii U one, it'd be my first MH game though

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord I sold my Wii for $400

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka Dooo iiitttt

Powerlord

15:17

@OrigamiRobot I assume it was more than just the Wii system then.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Tri was my first one.

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord Some controllers too.

fbueckert

The whole game is skill based, so it doesn't matter if you're new. Just dodge everything.

Powerlord

@OrigamiRobot Exactly how long ago was this?

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord About a year after it released.

fbueckert

15:18

@OrigamiRobot I bought mine for around that price.

Powerlord

Even brand new... system was $250, controllers were $40 x 3 and Nunchuks were $20 x 3...

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord Right, $400. That's a $30 loss.

Powerlord

@OrigamiRobot Right, but why would someone pay as much for a used system as a new one cost?

OrigamiRobot

@Powerlord It was sold out? I don't remember.

I also had a Classic Controller, so $50 loss.

kalina

"you can buy a title once on Origin, and when you log into Origin on either Mac or PC, that same game will appear in your newly unified (Mac/PC) My Games library."

^ official Origin for Mac press release

just sayin'

Ben Brocka

15:24

I wish I sold my first Wii to get that sweet sold out monies. But my parents got it for me so I didn't want to. Could have bought a second wii retail plus some games for what people were paying

Delicious scarcity

user58869

@kalina really? i got crysis 3 and mass effect 3 on origin the other day, have you tried it?

kalina

haha I am not a mac user

I feel insulted

SaintWacko

Sweet, got the Super Clock achievement

kalina

how could you confuse me for a mac user

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user58869

hmmm

user58869

15:25

well, a mac is just a computer

fredley

@kalina I am a mac user! Though not really by choice

SaintWacko

@axrwkr A very expensive one

fbueckert

@kalina Keyword in your answer: select.

OrigamiRobot

@axrwkr Tell that to Apple.

fredley

My mac frustrates me more than my PC

fbueckert

15:26

> For select EA games (that are available on both PC and Mac)

SaintWacko

With a simple interface

fredley

Utterances of 'Fucking Apple' are not uncommon

@SaintWacko Too simple for anyone who is in this chat room.

LessPop_MoreFizz

<---- Mac user.

Jason Berkan

@fredley Eh? I run nothing but Macs at home.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert The question is whether by select they mean ones that are available on both, or whether select is a subset of those that are available on both

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:27

In fact, I prefer OS X to Windows by a wide margin.

fredley

@JasonBerkan Even for gaming?

fbueckert

@SaintWacko So it's not at all authoritative.

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz We love you in spite of that.

LessPop_MoreFizz

For one thing, I have a full Unix terminal along with all the shiny commercial apps I could want on one box.

David B

select means, there isn't always two versions.

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:27

@fredley I game on my Mac.

Jason Berkan

@fredley If it's available for Mac, yup. My Steam categories are Mac Games and Windows games.

fredley

Getting my mouse to work with games has proven impossible

LessPop_MoreFizz

I also have a Windows partition that I reboot to for games that aren't availiable or run poorly on OS X.

Ben Brocka

I almost got a mac just to try out the OS, then I realized the only macs worth screwing with are still >$1000 and said screw it

Jason Berkan

@LessPop_MoreFizz Moi aussi.

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:28

In fact, I'm playing a game on my Mac right now.

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz Fair enough. If I went full-mac I'd probably do this.

user58869

my 4 year old macbook would probably melt if i tried to play crysis on it

LessPop_MoreFizz

My 2 year old MBP handles most things pretty well.

fredley

When I replace my laptop, I'll probably go MBA with W7

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fredley If you're going to dual boot windows for games, why are you getting an MBA.

Jason Berkan

15:28

In fact, I was ecstatic when I heard that XCOM was getting a Mac port.

No more dual booting!

fredley

I don't really find any real difference between working on OSX and Windows, I use all the same programs with slightly different keyboard shortcuts.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Best hardware out there.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Anything that is going to run well on an MBA graphics chip is probably going to be ported.

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz This is not my gaming machine

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fredley MBP > MBA if you care about games on it.

58 secs ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

@fredley If you're going to dual boot windows for games, why are you getting an MBA.

Note the if.

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz MBA for portability reasons

LessPop_MoreFizz

15:31

@fredley My point is that most of the games that an MBA will handle are cross platform.

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh I see

Well I'm only interested in Minecraft really, which would run fine. Albeit with terrible mouse support.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fredley Minecraft does in fact run fine on Macs.

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz Indeed

Powerlord

@JasonBerkan Why categorize them like that? Doesn't Steam only display games for the current OS?

(except for Civ 4)

SaintWacko

Geez, just found a system with 21 stars

kalina

15:33

@fbueckert the other source I provide by a forum user was edited by an EA employee

SaintWacko

I wish I could steal stars from other systems

Powerlord

@SaintWacko What post... er... system deserves 21 stars?

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord It's an option, yes. An option I didn't find until after I categorized my games.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@SaintWacko I don't think that's possible?

fbueckert

@kalina The game's still not out yet. Question is off-topic.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

15:33

It only goes up to a max of 10, right?

fbueckert

Authoritative references are a moot point.

SaintWacko

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I have 11 right now

Jason Berkan

@fredley What mouse do you have? I have the cheapest Logitech imaginable and Minecraft works just fine.

SaintWacko

And there's an achievement for having 40 stars

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Oh, right, stars don't count

SaintWacko

15:34

Yeah, it's a max of 10 planets

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fbueckert Then close every preorder bonus question ever.

SaintWacko

Stars don't seem to have a limit

kalina

@fbueckert but now it has an authoritative answer that is useful for visitors, and the question is gaining quite a lot of views, so it shouldn't be deleted

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@SaintWacko I don't think I have the patience for that. Bringing up starts is a pain

fbueckert

@LessPop_MoreFizz I believe I do.

1 min ago, by fbueckert

Authoritative references are a moot point.

kalina

15:35

@fbueckert you are a moot point

SaintWacko

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah, I'm kinda tempted, but there's a reason it's called "Grind Star"

If you could steal stars, it would be a lot easier

fbueckert

@kalina Nice to feel so useful!

kalina

@fbueckert how do you think I feel, after doing hours of research to be told by the "arqade community" what essentially amounts to "screw your effort deletes"

fbueckert

@kalina Why are you doing hours of research for any question?

Powerlord

Did I just time warp back an hour and not realize it?

kalina

15:37

@fbueckert I do research for any question I want to know the answer to

OrigamiRobot

53 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

By closing and reopening, you’re just punishing users who are following the rules by waiting like they’re supposed to.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Powerlord Circular argument is circular?

fbueckert

@kalina And besides, your arguments are being facetious.

You don't want it deleted because you put effort into it.

That's fine. Say that.

Not, "This question should be exempt because of side points X, Y, and Z."

kalina

@fbueckert it's not the core reason, I'm fielding multiple reasons why it should remain in existence just like everybody else is fielding multiple reasons why it shouldn't

Powerlord

Therefore I'll post funny quotes I've read today

fredley

15:38

@JasonBerkan Performance MX

Powerlord

> ChromeOS was designed to make google money out of the box. Secure out of the box is/was primary marketing slogan.

kalina

Just because my reasons disagree with yours doesn't mean I am being flippant

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fbueckert Do you know what facetious means? Because the arguments Kalina is making - authoritative resource, useful to people, clearly answerable, are not facetious.

fredley

Can't disable smooth scrolling, so when scrolling through inventory it flies through uncontrollably

user58869

i just installed origin for mac and it displays a little message saying that crysis 3 and mass effect 3 are only available on windows

kalina

15:39

@axrwkr Do Mac versions of those games exist?

fbueckert

@LessPop_MoreFizz Ok, wrong word. Didn't mean what I thought it meant.

Martin Sojka

@axrwkr EA is lying. That's news? :)

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Trent Hawkins

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Jason Berkan

@fredley That would be a pain. Using a cheap mouse avoids driver issues.

fredley

@JasonBerkan Ha

user58869

15:39

@MartinSojka well i guess not, just sayin

LessPop_MoreFizz

@axrwkr That's because there are no Mac ports of either of those games.

user58869

@kalina i dont think so

user58869

i dont know why though, who decides these things

LessPop_MoreFizz

Here, this is a list of games that are availiable for Mac via Origin. in the case of every single game on this list, you can buy it once and download/play on both platforms.

kalina

@LessPop_MoreFizz can I pinch this line?

it is probably going to come in useful the moment you go afk again and everybody jumps on me

Jason Berkan

15:42

@LessPop_MoreFizz They wouldn't be able to compete with Steam if they didn't allow a buy once, play on both policy.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@JasonBerkan Pretty much.

Actually...

Fuck, I lied, EA are monsters fuck EA forever. The only games that they offer cross platform downloads for are The Sims and Dragon Age II? Seriously? That's just stupid.

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(Admittedly, The Sims and Dragon Age 2 account for some 40 entries on that 51 item list.)

Powerlord

@LessPop_MoreFizz So, Dragon Age 2 is like 2 items and Sims is the other 38?

Which is about right for Sims 3 and its expansions

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Powerlord 1/39 actually.

Powerlord

Sims 3 is the prime example of DLC done wrong.

or gone overboard

fbueckert

@Powerlord And is the prime example of how EA wants all games to work.

@LessPop_MoreFizz @Wipqozn You have something to star!

Powerlord

15:49

I'm too lazy to check the actual prices, but as I recall Sims 3 is $30 and each expansion (all 38 of them) are $20. Each

Trent Hawkins

@Powerlord I wouldn't mind all the dlc for the sims if there was a rather massive discount for having the equivilent dlc for sims 2 or 1.

Lazers

0

Q: Pyro rocket reflect training with non-standard rocket launchers

There are training maps out there that can be used to practice rocket reflect timing. However, training maps spawn soldier bots using the default loadout. The standard rocket launcher is probably the easiest to reflect, but I almost never deflect the Direct Hit and Liberty Launcher successfully...

djsmiley2k

@LessPop_MoreFizz so @kalina is right, but with a fringe case?

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord $790? I'm gonna stop complaining about paying $60 for a game.

Hah - like I've payed $60 for a game in the past 3 years!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@JasonBerkan store.steampowered.com/app/24010

@djsmiley2k Kalina is still probably right, but EA's past behavior is not in any way predictive of that fact.

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Jason Berkan

15:53

@LessPop_MoreFizz Don't tempt me. I'm a train geek.

Powerlord

My mistake, some expansions are $30

LessPop_MoreFizz

@JasonBerkan Just look at the DLC list.

Look at the combined price total.

djsmiley2k

When it loads, it is epic. Sadly its a 14Mb gif :/

Jason Berkan

@LessPop_MoreFizz $2200 (!) - ouch.

Powerlord

Oh, there are 10 expansions and 8 "stuff packs" for Sims 3.

Jason Berkan

15:55

Luckily for me I wouldn't purchase any of the European add-ons.

Powerlord

expansions being $30-40 and stuff packs being $20

Martin Sojka

That reminds me, steampowered.com still defaults to Russian language for me. I wonder why ...

Powerlord

@MartinSojka I thought it was whatever Steam's language is set to... although that may not apply if you visit it in a browser instead of the Steam client.

djsmiley2k

o_O

Ben Brocka

@LessPop_MoreFizz Just like building a real train set, including the exorbitant price if you want all the cars!

djsmiley2k

15:56

@Powerlord Does that include the very strange H&M clothes collection pack?

LessPop_MoreFizz

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Powerlord

@djsmiley2k I don't see it in here. The list I'm going by is the one on the left side of the Sims Store on Amazon.

Martin Sojka

@Powerlord I don't use Steam, never have; I visit the site (mostly as links from here) once about a month and my "accepted languages" setting is usually set to "en-gb,en;q=0.5" or similar. In other words, WTH Steam?

BoltClock

@LessPop_MoreFizz That was the first Clueless Gamer video I ever watched. Oh god it's hilarious

djsmiley2k

can i redeem a steam key via the website? :/

Powerlord

15:59

@djsmiley2k No, and I'm pretty sure someone asked that on the site already

djsmiley2k

:O

BoltClock

> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

Well fuck that I can just go to teamcoco.com directly teamcoco.com/video/…

In other news: Tombola is closed, needs 180k worth of NP to reopen. Meh I'll just throw in the 290 NP I won from Googling the answer to the daily trivia

Powerlord

Oh, the SimCity review actually has the amount of money The Sims 3 costs. It's apparently $470 for all the Sims 3 stuff.

Amazon Review Score: 1.5 stars. Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #3

LessPop_MoreFizz

16:15

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Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@BoltClock Are you playing... NeoPets?

SaintWacko

I got 23 asteroid orbiting my planet, then bashed them together into another planet

BoltClock

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Yeah

SaintWacko

...Which promptly flew off into a sun...

BoltClock

There's a war going on that I don't care about at all

They're also monetizing the crap out of everything

Including the war

tombull89

16:19

in The Comms Room, 1 min ago, by pauska

LessPop_MoreFizz

2 hours ago, by Unionhawk

Old.

tombull89

@LessPop_MoreFizz boo. I'm blaming SF.

fredley

@BoltClock Neopets as an approximation of real life

LessPop_MoreFizz

@tombull89 Always a wise course of action.

fbueckert

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's smart.

SaintWacko

16:27

Sigh...

I have to open Internet Explorer

Wish me luck

I'm going in

...As soon as it starts responding

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fbueckert It's a shop.

SaintWacko

Stupid CVS

fbueckert

@LessPop_MoreFizz Damn.

That's something they should do.

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Valve are nice, though

Michel

Cute video

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fbueckert

16:31

@SaintWacko And doing this would be rubbing it in their face.

"Hey, wanna play SimCity or something similar? We've got those games on sale!"

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Exactly. Valve doesn't do things like that

LessPop_MoreFizz

@SaintWacko It's not even about being nice. Valve has an ongoing business relationship with EA and sells a number of EA games.

Losing EA games from Steam would bring... substantial harm... to the overall quality of Steams catalog.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, older EA games are good

LessPop_MoreFizz

@SaintWacko Not only that, but don't forget that EA is actually Valve's publisher for console releases.

SaintWacko

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, I didn't know that

StrixVaria

16:38

I imagine Valve will be able to publish their own stuff once their console thingy comes out.

Michel

Anyone knows a good tv series in french? I need to practice =X

djsmiley2k

@Michel haha that reminds me - few days ago on teh way home from work, two guys in just pants, red cloaks, with cardboard swords, running down the road inbetween the cars (when they weren't moving) play fighting

was so funny, people honking etc.

Michel

@djsmiley2k LOL! no video?

djsmiley2k

nah sorry

they were too quick for me

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria They could do it right now if they wanted to. For any number of reasons, they hand off that work to EA. The point is, the two companies have a business relationship and I can't see them taunting each other like that.

Michel

16:42

@djsmiley2k ahhh =( But the story itself give me a smile, thanks =)

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz No, I agree with that. I knew as soon as I saw that pic that it was a shop. Valve wouldn't do that.

fredley

@Michel Spiral

Spiral (TV series)

Engrenages (French for "gears" or "cogs"; ) is a French television police drama series created by the TV production company Son et Lumière. It is marketed in the English-speaking world as Spiral. The first eight episodes series started on Canal+ in France on 13 December 2005. It returned for a second series, partly funded by the BBC, of eight episodes on 12 May 2008, a third series of twelve episodes on 3 May 2010 and a fourth series of twelve episodes on 3 September 2012. A fifth and sixth series have been ordered. s primarily means "s" or "gears", implying the mechanics of justice an...

Michel

I want more start today, so.... here, I apresent you ... Bacon City

StrixVaria

I doubt this will do anything.

Michel

@fredley Thanks

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

16:46

Heh, someone just tagged a question about the social aspect of the new SimCity with simcity-social

Michel

@fredley I found the movie =X youtube.com/watch?v=riL5PAtYNIk

djsmiley2k

@StrixVaria Well I got a laugh at all the people who don't research stuff before throwing away their hard earned cash. I bet EA is loving it, people now buy games and don't even bother playing!

oKtosiTe

I'm guessing classic SimCity players aren't too happy about the use of the simcity tag right now...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@oKtosiTe Thankfully there aren't any

Jason Berkan

@oKtosiTe How many questions do we have about a 25 year old game?

fredley

16:48

@Michel Not the same thing I don't think...

fbueckert

@StrixVaria Online petitions are useless.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I mean, there was one, but it was closed and deleted.

fbueckert

The only thing companies listen to is money.

fredley

@JasonBerkan goes off to ask lots of simcity questions about the original

oKtosiTe

There were a few, perhaps they could receive the tag simcity-classic instead?

StrixVaria

16:49

@fbueckert I like how when it broke 5000 signatures it just upped the "needed" number to 7500.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@oKtosiTe Actually, there was only one. Which was closed. And deleted.

oKtosiTe

@fredley: What is the syntac for mentioning a tag again?

@YiJiang'sEvilClone: Fair enough.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

The simcity tag was used for a while as a tag for the entire series, but we got rid of that by tagging them with the actual game

fredley

@oKtosiTe [ tag:simcity ]

oKtosiTe

/me didn't actually check. :-P

Michel

16:49

@fredley \o/ youtube.com/watch?v=-YQJ5CLJiCc

fredley

@Michel That's the one

OrigamiRobot

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A: Should we reopen question being closed for 'unreleased game' after the game is released

Speculation about unreleased games is off-topic as per the FAQ. Debating what constitutes speculation in regard to official developer/publisher statement can be left to another meta post. For the sake of this answer, let's assume the questions it applies to are properly closed. Should we reope...

oKtosiTe

@fredley: weird, that's exactly what I did.

fbueckert

@StrixVaria Isn't that an automatic thing?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I still wish Solar 2 depicted stellar evolution more accurately

Michel

16:51

@fredley The original name is "Engrenages" =)

StrixVaria

@fbueckert What's the point, though? Why say there are 5000 needed if there are really 7500 or some higher amount needed?

fredley

@Michel Yes

djsmiley2k

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I don't "get it" - how do i become a life planet?

Jason Berkan

@fredley "What did you have to type in to get free money?"

Michel

@fredley Thanks again, going to check out this one =)

fbueckert

16:51

@StrixVaria I don't think there's any action on the site's part. I don't see why it needs a "needed" section at all.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@djsmiley2k Just keep absorbing asteroids until you get big enough

djsmiley2k

oh ok

the bar seemingly randomly reset :<

i think i crashed into too many.

StrixVaria

@fbueckert Also a legitimate point.

Essentially, the UI is stupid.

fredley

@JasonBerkan I remember Theme Park, you just had to press c. Those were the days.

fbueckert

@StrixVaria I agree.

fredley

16:52

rosebud;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;

djsmiley2k

@YiJiang'sEvilClone however it works in steam on linux so I may play tonight.... maybe...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@djsmiley2k Uh, yeah, life is kind of fragile

Powerlord

When would one ever want to use the <<= (left shift equals) operator?

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Have an upvote!

Fluttershy

@fredley Does that work in SimCity too?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

16:52

Once life does evolve though it'll put up a force field around the planet

Jason Berkan

@fredley I actually can't remember. I know it gave you $10000 and if you used it 3 (or 4) times you got an automatic disaster.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

At which point you can go wild and smash into things as long as the shield holds

fredley

@Fluttershy No, that's the Sims

djsmiley2k

urgh dungeon defneders on steam/linux doesn't even load "missing executable"

Fluttershy

@fredley I know. I was just wondering if it worked in SimCity as well. =P

Jason Berkan

16:54

Ah, it was "FUND".

oKtosiTe

In SimCity 4 I always just stick with a modified Lottery Ordinance.

Jason Berkan

I'm fairly certain I was never able to build a functional city in the original SimCity without the money cheat.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

The money cheat in SC4 only gives you a measly 1k

djsmiley2k

btw anyone add me on steam? ?:(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

There is a mod though that gives you a building which generates 1 million per month.

oKtosiTe

16:57

My modded ordinance gives an amount relative to the total residential population. Perhaps I should just call it a tax.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Personally I think most of options in SC4 are fairly balanced.

Well, except for the waste incineration plant trick.

oKtosiTe

But I can't take credit for it. I only edited the amounts of money to suit my needs.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Build a waste incineration plant, turn the funding to zero. You get waste taken care of for free.

LessPop_MoreFizz

+1 for the answer as it applies to truly speculative questions, but I strongly dispute the applicability of this answer to the question that prompted this meta. — LessPop_MoreFizz 33 secs ago

oKtosiTe

@YiJiang'sEvilClone: really? The funding doesn't influence its effectiveness?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

16:59

I mean, since it isn't generating electricity in theory it shouldn't be burning any garbage either, but somehow it is.

oKtosiTe

Ahh.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@oKtosiTe It only affects electrical output. Waste removal is fixed, independent of funding

oKtosiTe

Got it.

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