The Bridge

tombull89

7:00 PM

@libertas I'm on the standard MC release (as in, non weekly).

fbueckert

@Lazers 1K+ views in less than an hour.

libertas

yes I am running the latest bukkit

it's anarchy.liberty-survival.com if you want to come pound on it, map will be deleted and actual URL will be changed later, this is just for testing

I'm going to be watching the CPU through RDP so I'll be semi-afk

badp

7:31 PM

@agent86 2009 called, they want their new feature back

agent86

@badp oh YEAH? oh YEAH? Later, I'm totally going to have a good comeback for this. I'm too tired now.

badp

@agent86 Take your time, 2015 is about to call

agent86

@badp I plan on letting the machine answer.

Grace Note

Pfff

badp

@agent86 That'll be future you telling present you the comeback past you couldn't come up with.

Ullallulloo

7:34 PM

@agent86 L'esprit de l'escalier

Grace Note

> Many have dyed in a violet explosion in a Chinese village which caused the streets to run red, after large quantities of powdered violet dye fell from a truck and was scattered over a wide area after other traffic smashed into it, quickly turning much of the village fetching shades of red and violet after contact with water.

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GnomeSlice

@GraceNote ...Oi...

Jin

@GraceNote sounds like inside job done by backstabbing rouges

agent86

@Ullallulloo I prefer l'esprit de corps. mostly because I'm a necromancer.

Lazers

0

Q: How to know how much gold an item costs?

I am a bit confused, during my first quest I am looting many items, but I didn't find a way to know at which price an item can be sold later. Is this a design decision or am I missing some info somewhere?

torchlight-2

badp

7:36 PM

@Jin surely you meant, blackstabbing

Jin

@badp you know it was done by rouges, because they were blushing afterwards

agent86

Puns. Puns everywhere.

Jin

@agent86 is being punny a cardinal sin?

if so, brand that scarlet letter on my forehead plz

ok, i'm done.

Ronan Forman

@Jin They only do that to crimson-als. I'm so sorry.

Jin

agent86

7:39 PM

@Jin I read an article today about a guy hitchhiking across the country by offering people bacon. Where are you headed?

Jin

@agent86 Nirvana, obviously

agent86

@Jin well, I'm headed for Valhalla, but I can drop you off at Donuttopia and wish you well.

Jin

@agent86 Donuttopia was cool, until it got gentrified.

agent86

@Jin I think I read an article about that, but I couldn't finish. My eyes just glazed over. It was a puff piece.

empty in the middle, y'know?

Jin

@agent86 wait, are we still doing puns?

agent86

7:43 PM

@Jin I've lost track.

Sterno

From RPS:

It’s not a competition. There’s a reason we don’t put scores at the end of reviews, and it’s because games shouldn’t be ranked on some giant graph – it’s stupid and arbitrary. We can say which is our most favourite, of course, and we do. But I am not willing to get into a pie-fight between Torchlight 2 and Diablo III. Saying that, Torchlight 2 is WAY better than Diablo III.

Jin

@Sterno did you read the Torchlight2 dev AMA on reddit yesterday?

reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/105md1/…

Grace Note

@agent86 Try or do, there is no donut.

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fbueckert

sigh I seem to have a positive knack of running into issues that are stupidly rare.

Grace Note

@fbueckert It's more likely that other people ran into the same issues, but in seeing that no one else publicly talked about it, they just finagled their own solutions in-house and never published the results for the public to find. Assuming you're on about SharePoint again

fbueckert

7:55 PM

@GraceNote Indeed

I have, somehow, managed to get the publishing approval workflow to serve up blank dialog boxes.

Grace Note

Custom publish approval workflow or out-of-box?

fbueckert

@GraceNote Out-of-box.

Grace Note

Uf, you're on your own there, sir/madam.

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote don't?

fbueckert

@GraceNote Awesome.

And if I can't figure it out, guaranteed, I'll have to post another bounty.

Grace Note

7:58 PM

I wrote custom workflows, partly because we didn't have MOSS, partly because I knew there were enough intricacies in what my superiors wanted and what the engineers would understand that it was simpler to create our own workflow.

And custom edit forms. And custom approval forms using custom Multi-Selectable-Radio-Dropdown-Upload controls.

Sterno

In 18 days, I'm going to be X-COMing so hard.

fbueckert

@GraceNote The stupid part is, I haven't done a single thing TO these workflows. At all. Most of the publishing controls seems to have borked on me. Can't even check in files through the web interface.

Grace Note

Nice

fbueckert

I'll try rebooting the app pool; maybe that will help it.

GnomeSlice

How do you guys do blocked text in posts and comments on the site?

I still don't know how to do it.

There should be a meta thread for formatting help.

user15026

8:02 PM

@GnomeSlice Blocked?

GnomeSlice

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A: What are the diffrences between utf8_general_ci and utf8_unicode_ci?

utf8_general_ci is a very simple — and on Unicode, very broken — collation, one that gives incorrect results on general Unicode text. What it does is: converts to Unicode normalization form D for canonical decomposition removes any combining characters converts to upper case This does no...

agent86

@GnomeSlice spoiler? like >! ?

GnomeSlice

Like... text in a block. What is that, a code segment?

agent86

oh, backticks I think.

GnomeSlice

I also don't know how to do the keyboard keys things.

agent86

8:03 PM

the little button to the left of 1

like this

GnomeSlice

@agent86 I know what a backtick is, but thanks.

user15026

@GnomeSlice <kbd> </kbd> with the stuff inbetween

agent86

that's <kbd></kbd> I think

GnomeSlice

does this work outside of chat?

@AshleyNunn Oh, wow.

agent86

you can also just edit any post that shows what you want to do, you'll see the markdown used.

GnomeSlice

8:04 PM

Is it okay if I make a meta thread for formatting help, where someone can list all of the formatting commands?

fbueckert

agent86

@GnomeSlice I think there's already a faq entry or somesuch

fbueckert

Keyboard tags don't work, apparently.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Not in chat.

And yeah, he used backticks

badp

ah, fish, still probably the most useless items in Torchlight

user15026

8:05 PM

@agent86 I think you're right. It might be an MSO post.

agent86

for full-blown markdown or chat markdown

any time you're composing in markdown, there's a ? button you can click for help.

that's the page it takes you to.

user15026

@agent86 Oh holy balls batman I am so happy that exists

user15026

(I am trying to write a long meta post in Word so I don't post it before I am ready, and this will help me format it so it will look the way I want it to when it hits Libraries)

agent86

@AshleyNunn there are also markdown editors, I think even online there are some

user15026

@agent86 Eh, I can type most of the stuff I want to use (mostly just linking)

agent86

8:07 PM

@AshleyNunn joncom.be/experiments/markdown-editor/edit

GnomeSlice

@badp I dunno, you can sell some of them for a ton.

user15026

But it is nifty to know those things exist

fbueckert

Anyone have any thoughts on question crossposting?

user15026

@fbueckert What sort?

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Same question, two different SE sites.

user15026

8:07 PM

Generally frowned upon if I remember right

user15026

@fbueckert I meant what sites, sorry

fbueckert

aka: gaming.stackexchange.com/q/84763/20456

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, afaik, not a thing that wants to be encourage

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Yeah. Figured it's not a good thing, but wasn't sure if it was one of those things that looks bad on the outside, but is supported regardless.

Like our fiddly lore questions! :P

user15026

@fbueckert Oy. Lore.

fbueckert

8:17 PM

@fbueckert, I definitely agree with that for the reason you give, which is why in each dupe there is a link to the other. I won't put it in any other additional location but given that the gaming community would more likely benefit (thus why it should be here), and the electronics community would more likely be able to offer valid solutions (thus why it should be there), the divergence in this case should be allowed. I will of course synchronize the efforts if it is not done automatically. — Enigma 3 mins ago

Blarg

Everybody thinks they're unique.

Ronan Forman

@fbueckert You're a special little snowflake.

fbueckert

@RonanForman Just like every other special little snowflake.

user15026

@fbueckert Every snowflake is special. (And for some reason I am now humming every sperm is sacred.)

fbueckert

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Q: Is cross-posting a question on multiple Stack Exchange sites permitted if the question is on-topic for each site?

It is possible to migrate a question from one Stack Exchange site to another by closing, but if I have a question that I think is on-topic for multiple Stack Exchange sites, is it OK to post it on both? For example, I have a question that's earned me the tumbleweed badge on SO and I'm not sure ...

discussion faq questions etiquette cross-posting

GnomeSlice

►

What do you guys think of this?

user15026

8:24 PM

@fbueckert Ah, there we go, I knew someone said things on it someplace

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I've been trolling Meta.SO for stupid stuff lately. The sense of entitlement makes me chuckle.

user15026

@fbueckert Sense of entitlement on whose end?

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn The person whining about whatever it is.

user15026

@fbueckert I know, eh?

fbueckert

Most of them are, "Hey, guys, listen to this awesome idea!" and everyone's, "Been there, done that. It's stupid."

user15026

8:26 PM

@fbueckert Yeah....welcome to MSO.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Or those that are, "My question was awesome! What's the big idea, closing it!?"

user15026

Newish users love coming in and being like OMG I KNOW HOW YOU CAN BE BETTER. With all sorts of results.

agent86

wat the fsck is this

fbueckert

@agent86 A unicorn horn for your cat, duh.

user15026

@agent86 Havent you always wanted your cat to be a unicorn?

agent86

8:38 PM

it's inflatable though. my cat deserves better.

fbueckert

@agent86 We could surgically attach the horn to his forehead. I'm sure that'd be better for him.

Lazers

0

Q: Dark blue iron key in "The Room" - what does it do?

I've got to the 2nd chapter of The Room on iOS (iPad3) and.... ....there are several parts that I have yet to work out but I have a dark blue cast-iron looking key and I have no idea what it's used for. I've literally spun the box round 50 times trying to find little details where it might be ...

ios the-room

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Q: Are cross-site questions acceptable in rare cases?

I ask becuase I am curious about the particular case which I created involving this question: What are my options for fixing a bad bluetooth module? Some of the comments already explaining the two sides: Crossposting the same issue is not encouraged; it fragments the effort into two or mor...

discussion

fbueckert

@Lazers Welp. I guess this is mine.

Gonna have to field it after I get home.

user15026

@fbueckert Yaaaaay XD

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I don't mind; he's trying to learn, so I'll keep trying to help him.

user15026

8:43 PM

@fbueckert Mind if I pop up some of the MSO stuff on the subject?

fbueckert

And he's going about it the correct way, so that's good.

user15026

I can leave it if you want to answer,but throwing up quotes from that MSO post should kill this pretty fast

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Knock yourself out, if you like.

I'll try to field it once I get home, if it's still needed.

Sterno

I have 30 minutes while the baby naps. Deciding whether to play Torchlight 2 or Borderlands 2 will eat up 20 minutes of that time, leaving 10 for actual playing!

user15026

@fbueckert I am kinda on a meta-post brain space at the moment, so I can throw some words together.

user15026

8:45 PM

And you can always add stuff or whatever :D thats why meta is awesome

fbueckert

@Sterno BL 2.

user15026

There. Words. Quotes. Yay. Meta.

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Have you checed out Tiny & Big yet?

user15026

@GnomeSlice I haven't, no. I will hopefully get to it tonight or tomorrow :D

user15026

Man, Classical Rhetoric is BORING.

James

9:00 PM

@fbueckert Yeah I am not coming to visit man

I am going to sleep and getting up, going to work and then flying home tomorrow.

user2334

9:11 PM

@Lazers Ban technical-issues problem solved

Lazers

0

Q: What is the best way to play PvP?

I am almost exclusively a PvE player and love exploring, crafting and opening things up in game. Every now and then I get tempted by the PvP and WvW areas but tend not to head there because, frankly, I don't know what I am doing. Besides the weapons tutorials on the Mists, what is the best way to...

guild-wars-2

0

Q: What effects Axton's Turret's damage?

I'm playing the Commando, Axton, in Borderlands 2, and I'm building my character with heavy emphasis on the turret by using my skill points on upgrading the turret's damage, duration, and cooldown time. However, I'm not exactly sure how to upgrade turret damage outside of that. So what factors (o...

borderlands-2

GnomeSlice

9:27 PM

fbueckert

@James That sucks. But alright.

GnomeSlice

Why would you ever want to use utf8_general_ci over utf8_unicode_ci, then? — GnomeSlice 2 hours ago

Does anyone here have the knowledge to answer my comment/question?

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice I have idea what y'all're talking about really, but I'd guess that it might be faster.

Lazers

9:45 PM

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Q: How does the loot drop in multiplayer, per person or free for all?

In Torchlight 2, how does the loot drop in multiplayer games? Does it drop assigned to individual characters? Or is it just a first come first served kind of deal? I ask because I play games with a few guys that are loot hoarders to the point that it almost ruins games (the old, "hey there is...

torchlight-2

user2334

@GnomeSlice The answer, and the link it used as its source, directly answer that question

murgatroid99

10:15 PM

@GnomeSlice It looks like you would use it if you don't really care about the subtleties of unicode and you just want your database to function with unicode input.

user15026

Huh. Got the convention badge. That's surprising. I didn't realize I had made enough meta posts for that.

fbueckert

Wall of text!

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A: Are cross-site questions acceptable in rare cases?

As I had said in the comments, crossposting is discouraged in the SE network. This is because each SE site has it's own group of experts. When a question is asked, those same experts look at it from their unique perspective to answer the question. Given this, asking the same question of two di...

Lazers

0

Q: What kind of fish are available and what is their effect?

In Torchlight 2 you can go fishing in special place, but which kind of fish can you got? I am also particular interested in understanding which fishes gives to your pet the most powerful transformation. Which is the damage bonus got from them?

torchlight-2

user15026

@fbueckert I approve of your text wall.

murgatroid99

@GnomeSlice there could also be historical or compatibility reasons

fbueckert

10:19 PM

Stupid brain. I understand far too much of the other side.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, its a tricky, tricky thing.

user15026

I understand it, but I also know that it is a terrible precedent to set. It doesn't really help anyone.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I addressed that in my answer.

user15026

@fbueckert I saw that :) It made me go yay

murgatroid99

@fbueckert In your 6th paragraph, I think you meant "incidental", not "anecdotal"

fbueckert

10:21 PM

@murgatroid99 Good catch

murgatroid99

@fbueckert I like your argument

fbueckert

@murgatroid99 It hit me while I was actually writing it out.

Like I said. Stupid brain. Chucking new ideas at me wholly formed.

spugsley

Hey guys!

user15026

@fbueckert Not stupid at all. Strange and gloriously beautiful.

user15026

@spugsley Heya :D

spugsley

10:24 PM

I'm so glad to be here :) Life has been so incredibly busy!

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Problem goes in, solution comes out. Brain has fulfilled it's purpose.

user15026

@fbueckert It's awesome.

fbueckert

@spugsley spugsley!

user15026

@spugsley I am glad that you are here. I noticed a lack of you being here and that made me a sad bean.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn awww :( but also awwww :) because someone missed me!

user15026

10:25 PM

@spugsley grins But all is better now because you are heeeeeeere

spugsley

@fbueckert hiya :)

@AshleyNunn whoooooo!

whats everyone been up to these past couple weeks? :)

fbueckert

@spugsley Murdering SharePoint.

And strikes don't work. Boo.

user15026

.....yes, meta person, I am saying create a sock account. X(

spugsley

@fbueckert lol fun times

user15026

OH PEOPLE.

fbueckert

10:28 PM

And dancing. Had my Waltz performance on Saturday!

user15026

@spugsley School. School. School. School. Sleeping. Video games. School.

user15026

@fbueckert How did that go?

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn I didn't fall on my face!

spugsley

@AshleyNunn Mine has been very very similar

@fbueckert always a plus!

user15026

@fbueckert This is a very good thing

user15026

10:29 PM

@spugsley Yeah....I like what I am taking, it just takes a lot out of me. XD

fbueckert

There were about 100 people watching.

user15026

@fbueckert Okay, then it is definitely good you did not fall on your face.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn same :)

fbueckert

And the adrenaline hit me right as we started.

spugsley

OH! BUT! EXCITEMENT!

user15026

10:30 PM

@spugsley OOOH EXCITEMENT

spugsley

@fbueckert is that good or bad?

I have hosting for my photography and I'm selling itttttt :) whooooo

fbueckert

@spugsley Seeing as how my body reacts unfavorably to the fight or flight instinct, usually bad.

I was shaking throughout the dance.

user15026

@spugsley That is pretty awesomely shiny.

user15026

@fbueckert Ah, so you not falling on your face is a total achievement, then?

spugsley

@AshleyNunn yeah :) I'm pretty super excited

society6.com/SamanthaPugsley

woot :)

fbueckert

10:31 PM

@AshleyNunn It wasn't too bad. I was shaking, but my partner couldn't feel it at all. So mostly nervous jitters.

And the amount of clapping was astounding. We got a lot of applause for it.

And everyone absolutely loved it.

user15026

@spugsley I love the Through the Garden Gate one.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn awww thanks :)

user15026

@spugsley No problem. You got skills, lady.

user15026

@fbueckert That is super awesomesauce. I am glad it went so well :D

spugsley

@AshleyNunn Thank yous :p I always just shot for fun and then people were like....I'd buy that. And I was like. Okay. Lol

fbueckert

10:34 PM

@AshleyNunn The video taping sucked. >< The guy I was relying on used the wrong mode, so we got bupkiss.

user15026

@fbueckert Boo hiss.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Happily, we're doing it again in less than a month.

user15026

@spugsley Haha...I totally have my eye on a few now, for when I have money again for things to make my living space pretty.

user15026

@fbueckert Very cool.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn there are a ton of super talented artists (photographers, graphic designers, illustrators) so while I'm not adverse to you buying mine, definitely look around :p

user15026

10:36 PM

@spugsley Oh man, my list of people I want to buy stuff from is GIANT. I have a love for people making awesomesauce things.

badp

@spugsley -1, not enough baby punching

user15026

I love knowing awesomely talented people. It makes me happy to see my friends creating cool stuff in whatever way they choose.

spugsley

@badp lol if I photograph a baby getting punched, would you buy it?

badp

@spugsley Are you doing this for money or are you doing this to express yourself?!!?!

spugsley

@badp CAN HAZ MONIES NAO?!?!

user15026

10:42 PM

Man. Had awesome soup and sandwich dinner. Now I just wanna nap, but I have theatre to see....

user15026

But the theatreness will be awesome.

spugsley

@AshleyNunn what kind of theatreness??!?!

user15026

@spugsley Local production, written by a local guy. Apparently funny. kwlt.org/The_Horribly_Horrifying_Fun_Ho.192.0.html

spugsley

@AshleyNunn neato! looks really awesome. Hope you have fun!

user15026

(I am listed as a Production Assistant, but this went up before I bowed out due to school)

user15026

10:44 PM

@spugsley I suspect I shall

Fluttershy

3

Someone who plays Borderlands 2, please tell me that's fake.

user15026

Dear Coursera stop offering awesome courses that I want to take. So many free awesome university things and I want to do it all while still finishing my actual degree.

Lazers

0

Q: Tiamat splash and Wits' End (possibly with Infinite Duress)

The wikia entry for Tiamat specifically mentions that it does 50% of physical damage as splash. It also gives Infinite Duress (Warwick's R) as an exception, without mentioning further details. Does this mean that items which add on-hit magic damage (Wits' End, Malady) do not contribute to the s...