The Bridge

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:00 PM

@ArdaXi It's due to impurities, but not pollutants. Pollutants is specifically negative.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Well that's fairly sucktastic.

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn It should only last a few more days, in both cases.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Ah, that's good.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz It's got a negative connotation, sure, but that doesn't change its denotation.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Oh really? Go look up Pollutant for me, I'll wait.

Arda Xi

11:01 PM

> A pollutant is a waste material that pollutes air, water or soil.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi waste material.

The mineral content in NYC is not from industrial or other waste material.

FAE

@StrixVaria hope things get better

StrixVaria

@FAE Thanks!

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz Where's it from then?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Mostly soil in the reservoir.

Arda Xi

11:04 PM

It's something that's in the water, isn't actually used for anything, so it stays in after processing. Waste material.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi You are strongly stretching the denotation of the word here.

> 1. something that pollutes. 2. any substance, as certain chemicals or waste products, that renders the air, soil, water, or other natural resource harmful or unsuitable for a specific purpose.

> 1. to make foul or unclean, especially with harmful chemical or waste products; dirty: to pollute the air with smoke. 2. to make morally unclean; defile. 3. to render ceremonially impure; desecrate: to pollute a house of worship.

Every definition implies harm.

Arda Xi

And they are harmful, just not in a large enough dose in your case.

Of course I know it's a stretch. It was just a petty insult, not a well-thought-out intellectual point.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Oh yeah, NaCl is toxic.

@ArdaXi Yes, it was a petty insult. Which is my point.

Arda Xi

Yes, in fact.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Well, I agree.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi And furthermore, it was a petty insult borne from extreme ignorance of my hometown, of which I am exceedingly proud.

And thus, I will correct that ignorance, goddamnit.

Arda Xi

11:08 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Which I find incredibly silly, not being American.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi You're right. Ignorance is silly.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz No, the pride.

LessPop_MoreFizz

You should endeavor to eliminate as much of your own and that of others as you can.

Arda Xi

Patriotism is silly.

StrixVaria

Patriotism is stupid. Pride isn't.

Arda Xi

11:09 PM

Pride for your hometown is silly for the same reasons patriotism is.

StrixVaria

Pride involves actually thinking and having some qualities to be proud about.

Arda Xi

You're proud of it because it's your hometown. That's the position, you then later find reasons to be proud.

StrixVaria

Pride for your hometown because it is your hometown is silly. Pride for your hometown because you actually like it is not.

Arda Xi

But that's not the point.

StrixVaria

I'm not arguing with you.

Arda Xi

11:10 PM

The thinking process goes: This is my hometown, I should be proud of it. Why? Well, here's a reason.

It's not like: There's this and this thing... yeah, I'm proud of this place.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Except that I moved away, and moved back because I liked it so goddamned much.

Arda Xi

I can think of a million reasons to be proud of a million places.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Some of us aren't 17 year olds.

Arda Xi

And that makes my logical reasoning invalid, because...?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Because you made the assumption that my reasoning for being proud of NYC was illogical.

You started from a false premise.

OrigamiRobot

11:12 PM

@Wipqozn I'm gonna sue

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz It's a reasonable assumption.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot You should. It would be funny.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz You were stressing the fact that it was your hometown when you explained your pride.

It's not a big leap to assume the two are connected.

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LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Part of pride is that it implies attachment, contribution, and a certain introspective element that mere 'fondness' does not. I couldn't be proud of Amsterdam because I have nothing to do with Amsterdam, no matter how fond I might be of it.

@ArdaXi So the fact that is my hometown is in fact a prerequisite for pride.

Arda Xi

11:14 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz And if you were to move to Amsterdam and live there for a few years, could you be proud of it then?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Sure. Of course, at that point, it'd be my home.

Arda Xi

Exactly. Most of us don't think like that.

At least, most Europeans I've encountered.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi So you can only be proud of the place where you were born?

That seems even more illogical than what I'm saying.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz No, I'm saying that the two are unrelated.

I don't really think you can be proud of a town unless you're an architect or something.

Mayor, maybe.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi I am pretty sure the concept of 'civic pride' is not a purely american one.

Arda Xi

11:18 PM

To me, pride should come from achievements. And by achievements, I don't mean "being born."

FAE

@ArdaXi I've run into people who are proud of living in/being from Leiden, Groningen, even here in Delft.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz I am pretty sure it is chiefly American.

@FAE Hmm, might be more of a thing in the bigger cities.

I notice people tend to take pride in their football clubs a lot though.

Wipqozn

I'm proud of being Canadian. Well, except for the whole Stephen Harper thing.

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn Doesn't he eat babies or something?

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Again, how can you be proud of that? Have you personally defined what it means to be Canadian?

Wipqozn

11:19 PM

@StrixVaria I'm pretty sure he does.

@ArdaXi Yes, yes I have.

Arda Xi

Right. When asking rhetorical questions... always keep the second party's arrogance in mind.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi I've certainly personally defined what it means to be a New Yorker.

I'm one of some 9 million who are currently doing so every day, with everything we do.

Wipqozn

Also, I'm fairly certain that Canadian just means "A citizen of Canada."

LessPop_MoreFizz

Sometimes it's explicit, when we do things like vote.

Wipqozn

Therefore I am proud of call myself a Citizen of Canada is what "I'm proud to be Canadian" means in that context.

Arda Xi

11:21 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz So you are doing what to be a New Yorker is defined as.

FAE

@ArdaXi Feyenoord vs. Ajax crap, uuuuugh

Arda Xi

@FAE Yep, I hate it. Gets lovely when people are forced to work while there's a match on.

They announce the score and one part is like yay and the other's like boo. So annoying.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi With everything I do, I'm defining what being a new yorker is.

FAE

Yeah, I'm not really into football at all, so it's all a little beyond me.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz You have one nine millionth of an impact.

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:22 PM

@ArdaXi Yes. Yes I do.

Arda Xi

So you're proud of one nine millionth of that identity.

LessPop_MoreFizz

And being a part of something that big is a pretty awesome feeling.

@ArdaXi I bet you don't vote because you're statistically insignificant in those elections too, right?

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying that your pride only applies to one nine millionth of the whole.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi But you are. You're saying that being one out of nine million is unimportant.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm saying that I find pars pro toto pride weird.

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:24 PM

@ArdaXi e pluribus unum, etc.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz Exactly.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi I learned a new phrase today. Yay.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn I'm reminded of that one every time someone says Holland.

StrixVaria

@ArdaXi Holland is part of the Netherlands, no? What if someone uses it properly?

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria I've never met anyone who uses it properly.

OrigamiRobot

11:27 PM

@Wipqozn -1 Not a GIF

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria Holland no longer formally exists.

StrixVaria

@ArdaXi Ah interesting.

I indeed did not know that.

Arda Xi

It's like saying 'Dakota' to mean both North and South states.

FAE

@StrixVaria It really annoys me whenever it comes up in DrawSomething

Arda Xi

Literally, even. We have a North Holland and a South Holland. Together, they're what used to be Holland.

StrixVaria

11:28 PM

So I can say "the Hollands"? Because I say "the Dakotas" when referring to both at once.

Wipqozn

I always feel like such a total bad ass when I cast the last delete vote on a question.

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FAE

@StrixVaria ...good god no

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria Or Carolinas!

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria No, because there's only one Holland.

It just happens to be divided up.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi But you just said there are two hollands!

OrigamiRobot

11:29 PM

@Wipqozn I know you posted that one in chat yesterday just for me.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Divided up into two hollands!

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz Do you call a cut-up pizza 8 pizzas?

StrixVaria

We don't call them North Pizza and South Pizza and East Pizza etc.

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria Well, no, but if you had to name them, you might as well.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi 8 slices of pizza.

Arda Xi

11:31 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Exactly. Just like there are two pieces of Holland.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi They'd be named 'first slice' 'second slice' etc.

@ArdaXi Then it should be called 'North half of Holland'.

StrixVaria

@ArdaXi So then Holland does still technically exist.

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria Well, no, not formally.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Either Holland still exists, or Two Hollands exist.

FAE

@StrixVaria not really

ffff

StrixVaria

11:32 PM

@FAE I understood that.

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria By inference, there is a Holland.

But it doesn't exist in itself.

@LessPop_MoreFizz We shortened it.

FAE

I'm tired and have been speaking Dutch all day

OrigamiRobot

@FAE Me too! Except the Dutch part.

Arda Xi

@FAE Hmm. I do that every day /except/ today.

LessPop_MoreFizz

So, either Holland exists, or the two locations that formerly comprised a single holland can be referred to as 'the hollands'.

Arda Xi

11:33 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's a non sequitur.

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz All in favor?

Aye

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi No it isn't.

Arda Xi

@OrigamiRobot Objection.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Just because Holland does not formerly exist does not mean that the two locations can be called the Hollands.

Unless you can call a pizza cut up in two pieces 'the pizzas'.

OrigamiRobot

@ArdaXi If it are two locations, then they can be referred to in this manner.

FAE

@StrixVaria Yeah, I can read some German because of learning Dutch, even though I've never formally learned any German.

Arda Xi

11:34 PM

@OrigamiRobot No, that's not how it works. See the pizza analogy.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi You have two locations that are both called ____ holland. Unless you have a better term to refer to them collectively, 'the hollands' strikes me as the only suitable option.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz Holland is a better term than "The Hollands"

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi No, it doesn't work, because the individual slices are not each called x Pizza and y Pizza.

OrigamiRobot

@ArdaXi If it was North Pizza and South Pizza, yes.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi But you have stated that Holland does not exist.

FAE

11:35 PM

@ArdaXi Hoe zou je dat zeggen? "De Hollanden"? Dat heb ik nooit gehoord.

Arda Xi

Well, call it North Pizza and South Pizza then if it makes it easier.

@FAE Actually...

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi But now you're forcing a linguistic constraint upon us that we don't use.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz Not any more, not formally.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Nobody would refer to an individual slice as x Pizza.

Sterno

I make it easy on myself and just refer to any foreign country as NotAmerica

Arda Xi

11:36 PM

America. Another pars pro toto.

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz Unless the pizza is split into sections based on topping differences.

GnomeSlice

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LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot No, even then.

GnomeSlice

This is what I'm reading.

LessPop_MoreFizz

It's 'a slice with ____'

Arda Xi

11:36 PM

@Sterno Unless you'd also call Mexico NotAmerica, which would simply be wrong.

GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz "Gnome"?

Sterno

@ArdaXi Wrong's got nothing to do with it

OrigamiRobot

I would say "A slice of the ____"

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlice That would be an unpleasant slice.

Sterno

As an American, it's my God given right to be egocentric, call my country "America", and ignore every other country!

Arda Xi

11:37 PM

@Sterno Well, it's you. You're wrong. Wrong does have to do with it.

@Sterno Yes, and you being an American, we don't have to listen to you to decide your opinions are invalid.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno It's also your right to not know how to spell, to be fair. :P

Arda Xi

America hates the rest of the world. The rest of the world just hates America. We're a lot nicer, statistically.

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz pssh

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Untrue! We don't discriminate in our distaste. You single us out!

Sterno

Exactly.

Arda Xi

11:39 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz You hate 7 billion people!

Sterno

Besides, we don't hate you. We just don't notice you!

OrigamiRobot

@LessPop_MoreFizz We even hate each other

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi Hate is such a strong word.

Sterno

We're too busy looking at ourselves in the mirror!

Arda Xi

So that's 7 billion versus what, 300 million or something?

agent86

11:40 PM

ooh, a linguistics discussion with arda. If it were possible to participate in a discussion less than not at all, that is what I would be doing right now

11

like some sort of matter/anti-matter reaction though, it'd probably blow up the universe :(

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 We've moved past linguistics into logical pedantry.

Arda Xi

@agent86 Me too. Unfortunately, it's impossible for me to participate any less than I am already.

Sterno

@ArdaXi Yours is so much more focused and intense though. We just sort of lazily spread it all around. I think once you factor in the multipliers, you come out ahead.

Arda Xi

@Sterno Maybe if you factor by mass.

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 Well you could be participating in a different conversation. That's kind of less that not at all.

Sterno

11:41 PM

@agent86 Sorbo cures all

StrixVaria

This is a site.

I hope Arda is a member.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Alright, who cares if it's chametz, i'm hungry and it's:

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz linguistics and logical pedantry? I think I must've gotten off at the wrong stop - this is lower than my designated circle of hell.

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria I'm not.

StrixVaria

@ArdaXi Shame.

Arda Xi

11:42 PM

@agent86 I demoted you.

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz I just had some Kandy Kakes (or however those silly tastycake people spell that)

the kind with peeeeanut buttttterrrr

mmmmm

FAE

I totally forgot it was easter

agent86

@FAE happy easter :D

Arda Xi

@FAE I wish I could.

I mean, I had, given that I had school this Friday.

agent86

I forgot too. Couldn't figure out why the burger place down the road wasn't answering their phone :/

"oh, right. religious holiday and I'm in the bible belt. my bad."

FAE

11:44 PM

though I'm still used to like, the heavy commercialization of the US for holidays, which they don't really do here.

Arda Xi

@FAE They're leaking, though.

FAE

well, Christmas is getting more so

agent86

@FAE admit it, you miss cadbury egg commercials ;)

FAE

and you guys have started doing stuff for Halloween a little

Arda Xi

I've seen the chocolate eggs in store the moment they tossed out the Christmas decorations.

FAE

11:44 PM

@agent86 oh man those things make me queasy

Sterno

My hope is that 2000 years from now, traditions get so corrupted that everyone prepares a bunny for Easter dinner.

Arda Xi

@agent86 We don't have Cadbury Creme Eggs. :(

StrixVaria

@Sterno My hope is that 2000 years from now, people forget that Easter is a thing.

Sterno

@StrixVaria Why? That's so much less fun.

agent86

@FAE haha, yeah, they are way, way sugary. Looking at that one XKCD made me go "eww, I don't want to drink soda anymore" and I don't really drink soda anyhow

Arda Xi

11:45 PM

@Sterno Traditions got pretty corrupted already.

StrixVaria

@Sterno Because I'm a grumpy meany-pants and hate fun.

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Sterno

@ArdaXi That was kind of my point.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria So you are hoping for the death of christianity within the next two millennia?

agent86

@ArdaXi I'd say you're missing out, but you're really... not. I do like the reese's peanut butter eggs though.

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz I wouldn't mind at all.

FAE

11:46 PM

@agent86 I do remember those commercials from when I was a kid with the real bunnies though. They made me want to like them, but I still didn't.

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno My hope is that 2000 years from now, my brethren will have spared at least a few of you. I rather enjoy these conversations.

Arda Xi

@agent86 Oh, I've had them. It's one of the things I associate with the UK because it's the only place I've had them.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 Those are good.

Sterno

I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi You should also probably associate them with the UK because, y'know, Cadbury is british.

FAE

11:47 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, I like those and Snicker's eggs

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz True.

Well, was, anyway.

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz easter sugar high high-five

Arda Xi

It's owned by Kraft now.

agent86

if I hadn't just eaten a pack of kandy kakes, I'd be eating one of those peanut butter eggs right now

StrixVaria

@agent86 I would say everything with a Reese's label is good but I'm sure someone could come up with something disgusting that they make that I don't know about yet.

agent86

11:48 PM

@StrixVaria yeah, I don't know how.... but somewhere, someone is screwing reese's up

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria But Reese's wouldn't let their label be put on something less than amazing.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'd say years but I'm not an optimist.

James

For all who played the Game On! If you have any suggestions for the mod (Besides not sucking) please join The Engineering Bay and let me know em so I can get the todo list going for next time :)

GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz Where do you find shit like this.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Reese's Whipps

Reese's Whipps is a candy bar similar to the 3 Musketeers but differs by adding peanut butter. It has a center made of fluffy peanut butter nougat, a layer of peanut butter and is then coated with milk chocolate. The candy bar was introduced in 2007in the United States as an addition to their Reese's product line and is currently still in production. The Whipps is marketed as a lower fat candy bar (similar to 3 Musketeers) due to it mainly being composed of nougat. But of the 9g of fat, 7g are saturated. And despite it being lower in fat than most candy bars, it contains 230 calories per...

James

11:51 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Actually you were, I got a muffin :)

LessPop_MoreFizz

Not bad, but certainly not terribly good.

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz Where in the crap did that image come from?

LessPop_MoreFizz

And wtf is up with that photo in the one box, it has nothing to do with the article.

@StrixVaria Blame Wikipedia?

Sterno

@LessPopMoreFizz Shhhh. Those little bears are watching, and they'll hear you.

OrigamiRobot

I was like "Reese's Gummy Bears? Yea that sounds awful."

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:52 PM

@GnomeSlice The Internet.

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz this isn't good? I'm depressed now :(

LessPop_MoreFizz

@agent86 Not bad, but... disappointing.

agent86

this sounds like it should be good.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Also disappointing is:

Reese's Fast Break

Reese's Fast Break (or, in Canada, Hershey Sidekick) is a candy bar similar to the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. It is coated with milk chocolate, and filled with peanut butter on top of a nougat layer. While the bar initially had a blue and orange wrapper, the color scheme has since been inverted. Later formulations of Fast Break have a stronger peanut butter taste. This candy bar was intended to replace breakfast, hence the name "Fast Break", a reversal of breakfast. As of September 2006 Hershey has discontinued the Hershey Sidekick bar in Canada. External links * [http://www.hershey...

agent86

WHY, GOD, WHY??

LessPop_MoreFizz

11:53 PM

> This candy bar was intended to replace breakfast, hence the name "Fast Break", a reversal of breakfast.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz What a lovely comment on 21st century society.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ArdaXi My thoughts exactly.

Arda Xi

I'd put it differently but then I'd go back to where we were before.

agent86