The Bridge

8:02 PM

@Pyrodante no idea what that means :P

@StrixVaria Sure, but it only matters in the MMO genre because fights break down into DPS versus Healing PS. I would love to see that shaken up.

FallenAngelEyes

@StrixVaria No holy trinity (all classes can rez, all classes have a heal, you can switch your "role" from support to DPS easily), no exponential xp leveling curve (amount of xp it takes to level caps at 30 and is flat after that til 80), chained dynamic events system, stuff like crafting supply nodes are individual (if you see silver ore and you mine it, it's mined for you, but someone else can come along and mine it, preventing stuff like having someone take the node while you clear the mobs)

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes some of this sounds kind of like what glitch was attempting, but hopefully they'll do a better job of it. probably helps that they're actually creating a game

OrigamiRobot

@FallenAngelEyes Non-individual resource nodes were a HUGE pain in LOTRO

Pyrodante

Dust514 is a new FPS coming out

user30

8:04 PM

Well, that's the first time I've been promised beers online.

FallenAngelEyes

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, that's the most recent MMO I played that had that and it drove me crazy. >_<

user30

.@thomasmcdonald_ thanks for all ur work on bootstrap-sass! If you're ever in Copenhagen, DK beers are on us @autobutler! 🍻

Tweeted by cabgfx on February 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM

StrixVaria

@FallenAngelEyes No monthly fee still?

FallenAngelEyes

@StrixVaria Still no monthly fee. They're very adamant about that.

Also they're going to allow you to multi-guild, which, for me at least, is a godsend.

StrixVaria

@FallenAngelEyes I might pick it up then. Is there a release date?

Pyrodante

8:05 PM

dust514.com/en/home

FallenAngelEyes

@StrixVaria Sometime this year. If there was a release date, I would've already been screaming it in caps somewhere in the backlog here at some point.

Ian Pugsley

@Pyrodante PS3 exclusive? :/

Pyrodante

yeah...

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes That's how I plan to know there is a release date.

user30

37signals.com/svn/posts/3111-basecamp-next-ui-preview

Pyrodante

8:07 PM

hence why I need to train for console... but it will have keyboard and mouse support.

Wipqozn

That, and I assume I'll hear you screaming in joy.

user30

The Basecamp Next project selection UI looks exactly like the SE Chat room selection UI.

FallenAngelEyes

Also, they plan to continue separating PvE and PvP skill functionality (again, something I think every MMO should do).

Ullallulloo

@ThomasMcDonald That's what I was thinking when I saw it...

Jason Berkan

@FallenAngelEyes I think they learned that lesson the hard way.

Wipqozn

8:08 PM

@FallenAngelEyes That's awesome.

@JasonBerkan ?

Jason Berkan

I could be wrong, as I'm just going by the wiki, but I believe some skills were updated to help one side (i.e. PvE) resulting in a massive unbalance in PvP.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasonBerkan I'm not sure what you're talking about, as they've pretty much always had separate PvE and PvP skill balancing.

Ullallulloo

@OrigamiRobot Ahaha, your Yahoo! Answers question didn't even get the right answer. :P

FallenAngelEyes

A skill works differently in PvE than PvP, the description literally changes once you head into a PvP zone for some skills.

user30

@Ullallulloo However, it does look pretty good.

Pyrodante

8:12 PM

The big thing about Dust514 is that it will be integrated into EvEs universe/politics. So when you blow up some expensive tank, you know you actually cost someone something!

OrigamiRobot

@Ullallulloo Thats why ITCs are bad :P

2

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot ITC?

FallenAngelEyes

@JasonBerkan Also, this is what they're looking to do.

StrixVaria

@Wipqozn Identify This Comic.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria ah, gotcha.

But yeah

Ullallulloo

8:15 PM

@OrigamiRobot Well, that one doesn't talk about acronyms, so one could know it was wrong if the question was right.

Wipqozn

lol @ Yahoo! "Answers"

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn identify-this-comic

badp

and when upvotes fail to come in, unleash your inner powerpoint!

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria I beat myself to it.

Ullallulloo

@Wipqozn Yahoo! "Answers"

Wipqozn

8:15 PM

@Ullallulloo Fixed.

OrigamiRobot

@Ullallulloo I doubt the YA crowd knows the difference between an acronym and a mnemonic

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot I doubt they know the difference between up and down.

Jason Berkan

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, I am probably reading more into the wiki entries than I should be. I'm just a casual GW player anyway - I can't stand the combat system (and I only play PvE).

OrigamiRobot

WTF someone starred it as interesting!

FallenAngelEyes

@JasonBerkan Well, you may be happy to know that GW2 plays very, very differently than GW1 then. :)

It's really active, almost action-type combat.

@JasonBerkan If you have Eye of the North, you can get bonuses in GW2!

user30

8:19 PM

Restoring data is slow.

Jason Berkan

@FallenAngelEyes I only have the original. I never bought any expansions because I have never finished the original campaign.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasonBerkan Prophecies is very slow, aye. Factions was paced a little too fast, but Nightfall hits the sweet spot, imo. The Hero system is also pretty great.

time for dinner, later!

user30

@Ullallulloo I asked Jason if the inspiration for the project cards came from SE chat.

user30

His response: 'it came from paper on my desk'

agent86

@ThomasMcDonald psh, I bet the paper got the idea from us then ;)

user30

8:28 PM

Yeah, it's a bit of a, er, firm reply.

user30

I was actually wondering if it was becoming a UI pattern, either one that was around before SE chat/after.

user30

because the Facebook-style touch menu has caught on like crazy

user30

anyway, I have some laptop updates to apply

user30

8:40 PM

So 'validating packages' for an EFI update takes at least 10 minutes.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman What is the general mood of the video going to be?

user30

@Gnome murder.

GnomeSlice

That's not a mood.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice It is now.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Says you.

user2334

8:42 PM

It's a spacesta—oh.

user30

C'mon efi update.

user30

Uh oh.grey screen.

agent86

@ThomasMcDonald at first I thought you were writing something in french.

StrixVaria

@ThomasMcDonald It took me a few seconds to realize you weren't speaking French here.

agent86

c'est l'efi updatee

Lazers

8:42 PM

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Q: Why is my PSVita not charging through the USB port on my PC?

I want to charge my Vita via my PC's USB port. When I connect it, it hooks up to the PC and I can transfer items back and forth, but it does not charge. I looked around and saw a few posts saying that you have to enable it in the options, which I did but still it doesn't work. My USB 2.0/3.0 p...

ps-vita

StrixVaria

@agent86 Ninja!

agent86

@StrixVaria I am 10 ninjas

user30

Let efi update c'est installed.

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 Does @agent86 have access to our mind? What did you do?

user30

Now for the 10.7.3 update.

agent86

8:47 PM

@ThomasMcDonald tres bien!

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot I think we might be broken, but it's nothing more tacos can't fix. Luckily, I'm having a taco right after work today, so it should be all good by then.

agent86

@OrigamiRobot in addition to the spy cameras, I also have access to all of your neural probes. y'know, the ones that got installed when you clicked "I accept" and created an account? those neural probes.

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria I assumed that rattling was just some tinker toys.

StrixVaria

visited 557 days, 354 consecutive

If something happens in the next 11 days that prevents me from visiting, I might lose my mind.

Jason Berkan

@StrixVaria Wow. I don't have that kind of dedication on the weekends.

StrixVaria

8:52 PM

I got the fanatic badge and just kind of...kept going.

Jason Berkan

I got the fanatic badge and then immediately stopped logging in.

Wipqozn

I lol'd @ that

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria 211 days, 54 consecutive :/

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Well, they're both true.

Wipqozn

316 days, 305 consecutive

Arda Xi

8:55 PM

560 days, only 14 consecutive though... I missed a day :(

Quite a few it seems.

StrixVaria

Those pesky Thursdays.

Grace Note

@Wipqozn Hm?

Arda Xi

Aye.

agent86

@ArdaXi why thursdays?

Arda Xi

No idea.

StrixVaria

9:02 PM

@agent86 HOW ABOUT YOU AGENT NUMBERS, HOW MANY DAYS DO YOU HAVE?

Ronan Forman

He always hated thursdays, didn't you @Arda Dent.

Arda Xi

No, I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote Global Warming I assume

Arda Xi

I actually have a hardcover copy of the trilogy on my bookshelf now. :D

FallenAngelEyes

550 days, 276 consecutive

Wipqozn

9:04 PM

@agent86 was just at your profile...

> profile views 1,234

No one ever view his profile again

agent86

@Wipqozn woooo

FallenAngelEyes

Randomly missed a day in May last year

though it was already interrupted before that when I was visiting the US cuz I was on dialup

agent86

@StrixVaria I'm five days away from my 100 consecutive day badge :D

Arda Xi

@RonanForman 'This must be a Thursday,' said Arthur to himself, sinking low over his beer, 'I never could get the hang of Thursdays.'

StrixVaria

@agent86 Not bad, actually.

agent86

9:05 PM

mostly I was just wondering what happens on Thursdays that distracts @ArdaXi completely.

@StrixVaria I'm glad I've earned your approval :P

Wipqozn

@agent86 @ArdaXi is really a super villian.

StrixVaria

@ArdaXi I should re-read that whole thing.

Wipqozn

Thursday is the day he does most of hs work.

agent86

@Wipqozn do super villains have swim meets on thursdays?

StrixVaria

It's been a while and I've forgotten all the fun quotes.

Wipqozn

9:06 PM

What trilogy are we talking about?

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn The Guide.

Arda Xi

@StrixVaria This version has about a thousand pages. Enjoy.

@Wipqozn How can you not know that.

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan ah, right.

@ArdaXi I haven't read the books.

FallenAngelEyes

Early copies of Mass Effect 3 launched on weather balloons Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice poke

Wipqozn

9:06 PM

It's on my to-read list

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn What.

Grace Note

@ArdaXi At this point I'm no longer surprised at who doesn't recognize what.

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Go. Read. Now.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer Hm?

Raven Dreamer

I have progress I'd like to share with you.

Grace Note

9:07 PM

I've only read the books by proxy, myself.

Arda Xi

I've only read the first two, to be honest.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer Be my guest.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice His 7TH guest?!?!?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

GnomeSlice

?

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes THAT SEALS IT. I need a spaceship so I can play ME3 early.

Wipqozn

9:08 PM

Raven Dreamer

dl.dropbox.com/u/41391071/GNOMEGNOMEGNOME.wav

@GnomeSlice ^^^

Grace Note

@agent86 I am not helping you with that

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 They don't specify the platform for the launched copies o_O

Raven Dreamer

@FallenAngelEyes Probably console.

Zamual05

@Wipqozn YES! Just YES! ^_^

agent86

9:09 PM

@GraceNote :( but you're the only one I know with missile-slash-rocket technology I could steal. Just kick the badgers out for now, they can stay at my house while I go ME3 hunting.

GnomeSlice

Grah y my internet so slow...

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice You want an MP3 instead?

I forget I have a nice beefy internet cake.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer Possibly.

Grace Note

@agent86 I'm also the only spaceship you know, but I'm somehow figuring your eyes weren't good enough to realize that.

GnomeSlice

It's only 7.3 mb, but my download speed appears to be.... slow.

Ronan Forman

9:09 PM

@Gnome Thriller-ey that's mainly straight, but with hints of humour.

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes if I went to the trouble of stealing grace's badger rockets, I think I could probably find a PS3 :P

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer It's playing now.

agent86

@GraceNote oh, right. in name only though.

Grace Note

So you imagine

agent86

from my perspective, you're a badger-launching person who is named after a spaceship. or perhaps the spaceship is named after you.

Grace Note

9:10 PM

Badgers are out of season right now, actually

agent86

but yeah, if you're actually a spaceship, it would be awesome to steal you. but you've already said no, so I'm going to pout.

@GraceNote what's in season?

Grace Note

Drop bears.

Ronan Forman

I love drop bears!

agent86

insidious, stealthy, and deadly. I like it.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer What is this for?

Raven Dreamer

9:12 PM

@GnomeSlice My digital compositions class.

Ronan Forman

@Gnome Did you get that theme?

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Yeah... Hrm.

@RavenDreamer Sounds pretty good, but also very disorganized.

Ronan Forman

It's basically Indiana jones.

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice That's the intent. The piece is supposed to be about moving from the precise, well-synthesized instruments back towards the retro 8-bit NES chiptune bits.

That's why there's the minor key and all the melodies keep slowing down / dropping off.

GnomeSlice

Aha.

@RonanForman Ah, dammit.

I've been working on what I think would make a good opening theme.

And it's... not Indiana Jones.

Ronan Forman

9:15 PM

It doesn't need to be.

In fact it shouldn't be.

I'm saying the mood and theme is similar.

user30

That took a long time.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Let me show you where I was going with the opening theme:

Just give me a sec to upload it.

Ronan Forman

I still think you should wait until it's done.

GnomeSlice

Jesus, it's 19 mb?

Ronan Forman

I suppose as long as it's just ideas and nothing permanent.

GnomeSlice

9:27 PM

@RonanForman Oh undoubtedly. This is just the opening theme i.e. the music playing while the title is showing, credits, and the shots of the ocean before the people wash up on the beach.

Gonna take a bit to upload.

@GraceNote Also, my copy of Soul Calibur 5 just arrived.

Ronan Forman

Oh, I didn't think of having an ocean shot with credits, that's pretty cool.

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice Hooray! Now you can ogle Astaroth!

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice That took its sweet time

GnomeSlice

:D

@RonanForman Yeah, I was thinking we'd do some flying shots along the coastline.

Of the 'mysterious island'

And at the end of the credits sequence, have the players wash up in the final shot

Ronan Forman

Show off the amazing level design?

GnomeSlice

9:31 PM

Yeah yeah.

Gah my internet sucks.

Here, let me re-encode it at half the bit depth.

Or whatever the hell this number is.

sigh...

Okay. NOW I'm uploading it.

@RonanForman Do you actually think that's a good idea though?

I mean... it is my idea.

Raven Dreamer

Hey. No self-deprecation in this chat-room!

;)

GnomeSlice

Oh, okay.

Ronan Forman

It does seem like a good idea, it can set the scene really well, both musically and through set design.

user30

Sigh. Now to experience the full force of rural internet.

GnomeSlice

Okay, finally finished uploading.

@RonanForman, @RavenDreamer dl.dropbox.com/u/29281634/M2.wav

Ronan Forman

9:41 PM

Yay!

GnomeSlice

It's not complete, mind you.

This should just show you the direction I was thinking of going in.

Listen to the entire thing though.

Raven Dreamer

Nice build.

GnomeSlice

Thanks, although I think it might be a bit long for the Machinima's (likely short) opening. I can modify it though to fit the video once I have some footage.

@RonanForman First Impressions?

Ronan Forman

I'm getting abandoned facility, the elecronic sounds make artificial, and the high pitches sticarto along with the echo gets a empty feel

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman So... good? I was going for 'mysterious', and 'earthy'.

Ronan Forman

9:45 PM

Not really.

GnomeSlice

I can see about changing the electronic sounding accent drums.

@RonanForman Ah... dammit...

=[

Ronan Forman

Think about what feeling your trying to convey.

GnomeSlice

I did...

Gah.... I think we need someone else to do this.

You don't have a 'mist' plugin for Minecraft, do you?

Ronan Forman

Maybe we've got different ideas of the opening scene.

Pyrodante

what is this movie for?

Ronan Forman

9:48 PM

I mean it does sound mysterious, but not earthly.

But the island itself isn't supposed to be mysterious.

GnomeSlice

Why not?

Ronan Forman

It's supposed to the people who are bad.

And mysterious.

GnomeSlice

But these shots would be before we've even seen any characters.

The viewer isn't going to know anything about this place

Raven Dreamer

@Pyrodante They're making a minecraft machinma for funsies, as far as I know.

OrigamiRobot

@RavenDreamer You know alot.

Pyrodante

10:00 PM

oooooh

OrigamiRobot

I wish @alot would ping @Wipqozn

2

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot That would be awesome.

Pyrodante

kidnapped by the endermen... they look kinda like natives nowthatsracist

Wipqozn

Although more awesome if I still had an alot gravatar.

GnomeSlice

I've got the electric hat sounding thing to sound a bit more like maracas

Wipqozn

10:01 PM

I could always just change my username on another account to "alot" and then make that my chat user

OrigamiRobot

That's what I'm getting at.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot :P

Grace Note

@Wipqozn But then Wipqozn wouldn't work

Wipqozn

I can't change it back now, not when we're so close to having the full MLP team represented!

@GraceNote Sure. Poke holes in my idea.

Maybe we could make it a feature request?

Grace Note

Three different parts of my job work in that manner.

GnomeSlice

10:03 PM

@GraceNote Just out of curiosity, what do you think of the music track I linked?

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice I think I haven't listened to it yet.

GnomeSlice

I see.

Grace Note

I'm currently in a voice call so I can't really listen to it.

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote is a diligent worker and deserves a raise.

Who else should I ping when i say stuff like that?

badp

@yx you have experience with reverse engineering videogames? Tell me more, I'm interested! (no, really!)

Wipqozn

10:05 PM

@OrigamiRobot Well, you assume.

She could just be chatting to her mom or something.

agent86

@badp I've poked at this a couple of times, but it's time consuming and not particularly rewarding for most modern games

Grace Note

@Wipqozn Oi oi, you know what they say about making an assumption. It makes an ass out of you and Mption.

badp

@agent86 yeah, I can totally see that.

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote Assuming makes an ass out of you and Ming (the Merciless).

badp

@GraceNote ta-bum dsssssh.

@OrigamiRobot Assmerciless?

agent86

10:07 PM

@badp it's fun with something like FCEUltra and some NES games though.

OrigamiRobot

@badp Satisfied?

badp

@OrigamiRobot Gay.

...

it means "happy"

Wipqozn

badp

what were you thinking?

Wipqozn

@badp Clever girl.

badp

10:10 PM

@Wipqozn I'm not a dog.

StrixVaria

@badp Isn't that said about velociraptors, not dogs?

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Yes.

badp

@StrixVaria How would I know? It sounds like something one would say to a dog after she brings the newspaper correctly.

Wipqozn

►

@badp That would be "good girl"

Arda Xi

@badp Bringing a newspaper is hardly clever.

badp

10:15 PM

@ArdaXi Depends on how long the dog's spent bargaining with the newsagent for a good price on the latest issue of Cosmopolitan.

Arda Xi

@badp Clever girl.

badp

ganks Arda and mauls him to death

Tristan

@Sterno You didn't have to switch the accepts on that answer. I was just updating it as promised.

Lazers

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We just tried (me and 2 friends of mine) to beat the Sky O’ Love mission in Dungeon of Defenders. We spent an hour and we reach "only" wave 8/10 and we desisted. It was really difficult let the lovers meet. Do you have any suggestions to speed up the things? I am not sure I can tolerate all this...

dungeon-defenders

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Q: Borderlands ammunition SDU upgrade provides the same total ammo as my current total?

I picked up Borderlands this week and am really enjoying it. I'm playing the Siren and use primarily Repeater Pistol and SMG weapons. A little while back I purchased an Ammunition SDU from a vending machine. The SDU increased my SMG ammo up to I think 720. Now whenever I visit vending machines ...

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Q: In Space Quest 1 VGA (not EGA) can you kill Orat with the Spider Driod?

In Space Quest 1 VGA (not EGA) can you kill Orat with the Spider Driod, as you can in the EGA version? I know it both you can kill him with the dyhydrated water bottle.

pc space-quest-1

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Q: Enemy respawning in Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

How does respawning work in KoA? It appears to be almost immediate in the "overworld", but what about in dungeons? Do bosses ever respawn?

kingdoms-amalur-reckoning

0

Q: How can I make my villagers more pacifistic?

I'm using MineColony to get some NPC's that are actually useful. But, they're being a little too useful. Specifically, the women are slaughtering all the wildlife. Many pigs used to roam this field. A few versions ago, I would've had no problem with this, but with the fairly recent animal s...

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Sterno

@Tristan Yeah, but yours is better.

@Tristan I used to feel bad about switching accepted answers. I got over it. :)

Tristan

10:20 PM

@Sterno I was expecting "Then I took an arrow in the knee" in place of "I got over it." lol

GnomeSlice

@Tristan ಠ_ಠ

Pyrodante

He feels hurt in his heart-box!

Tristan

@GnomeSlice I can't help it! It's been spammed to the point that I automatically expect it any time I read "I used to <something>"

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman You still around?

agent86

@Lazers ah, space quest. I have beaten that game so many times...

Sterno

10:27 PM

Only SQ I never beat was SQ 2

agent86

@Sterno I've cleared them all, although I lost my "complete collection" cds some years ago

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman I swapped out the computer-y sounding drums with some more realistic sounds: dl.dropbox.com/u/29281634/M2.wav

What do you guys think?

agent86

I usually killed the Orat with the dehydrated water though, and just ignored the spider drone

Sterno

@agent86 I remember that friggin laser beam puzzle, where you need a shard of glass from your windshield, taking me forever back in the day.

GnomeSlice

Anyone?

agent86

10:31 PM

@Sterno what got me was the little action sequence that's right after the orat destruction part. I failed that so many times, had a very slow computer :)

that and freaking forgetting to buckle your seatbelt when you launch the escape pod

user30

@GnomeSlice decent

agent86

I hated getting to that point, then forgetting to save and buckle up before launching, geez

GnomeSlice

@agent86 lololololololololololo

agent86

what was also funny was I played SQ1 in VGA, and never played it in EGA, so in SQ4 when you travel back in time, I totally did not get it...

I kind of miss the old lucasarts and sierra adventure games. here's hoping the new doublefine adventure is worth the $15 I already gave them for it :)

StrixVaria

Not having ever heard of a game abbreviated "SQ", I will assume this refers to "Super Quack", some kind of role reversal of Duck Hunt.

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:40 PM

0

Q: Let's Talk About UFO's, and I don't mean the Ask Question Mothership:

175 Reasons LessPop_MoreFizz Doesn't Like identify-this-game This is a list of every currently open unanswered ITG Question that has not seen activity in more than a week. All but the first 25 or so are more than a month old. It should be noted that this list is more than four times the size of ...

discussion identify-this-game

That... was far more effort than I'd ever hoped to have to put into ITG.

Grace Note

@LessPop_MoreFizz How do you think I feel about game rec?

Lazers

0

Q: Sign in problems to access garage in GT5

We have an old user login that my son has forgotten the password to, and the e-mail address linked to this user, so we can't sign in. Is there any way to access the contents of garage/saved data on GT5 for this login?

gran-turismo-5

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Q: Let's Talk About UFO's, and I don't mean the Ask Question Mothership:

175 Reasons LessPop_MoreFizz Doesn't Like identify-this-game This is a list of every currently open unanswered ITG Question that has not seen activity in more than a week. All but the first 25 or so are more than a month old. It should be noted that this list is more than four times the size of ...

discussion identify-this-game

Pyrodante

@LessPopMoreFizz I support this product and/or service

Grace Note

Or, let me rephrase - I know how you feel wargh

user2334

@LessPop_MoreFizz That apostrophe to denote pluralization is taunting me.

2

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:45 PM

@GraceNote Nobody else seemed to be willing to go to the effort of quantifying how bad ITG is, so I figured I'd do it myself. Manually filtering out all of the "OH MY GOD THANK YOU !!!!!!11111!!!!!!" comments took far more time than I'd like to admit.

Ronan Forman

@Gnome I'm getting overgrown, rather than untouched.

Grace Note

@LessPop_MoreFizz Heh

FallenAngelEyes

@RonanForman ...I'm trying to figure out what reasonable context this should be in and failing miserably

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Good.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria Taking this out of comments because it's going to be a longer explanation than I want to fit in there:

The reason I went this route is to attempt to dispel the counter-argument in favor of ITG that what they need is better moderation. If someone is going to make that argument, well then, let's demonstrate what better moderation of ITG is going to entail, and assess the tag after we've done so.

FallenAngelEyes

10:48 PM

Also @Strix: Game-rec as a separate chat failed horribly, trust me, I know, as I opened that room originally.

Raven Dreamer

@FallenAngelEyes Describing the music @GnomeSlice made.

Ronan Forman

@Gnome That's bad, I'm getting vines on a city type thing, like the start of portal, rather than thick unscarred forest

StrixVaria

@FallenAngelEyes If it fails, it fails, but at least they'll have somewhere other than our main site to go to die.

@LessPop_MoreFizz And what I'm saying is that once they see how much moderation effort is required, hopefully they'll just jump right to the conclusion we want and get rid of them instead.

FallenAngelEyes

@StrixVaria Then send them here, not some room that's barely populated and will suffer not getting an answer simply due to a bad time of day.

StrixVaria

@FallenAngelEyes Fair enough.

FallenAngelEyes

10:49 PM

We do have lulls here, yes, but I don't think we ever had more than half a dozen people in the Game Rec room at once.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Hmm... not sure what to do about this answer:

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A: How do you access all the extra areas on the map?

You can't, its just "Lore" 4 more words, done

Raven Dreamer

@FallenAngelEyes The issue there is a "well, what if I want a game rec right now and no one is in the room?"

LessPop_MoreFizz

It's a complete answer, it just happens to be very short, and hence he's working around the minchar.

But I'm not sure how to edit it into a 'better' answer without just using big words or something.

Ronan Forman

@Gnome It's very good music, but is an eeiry emptiness type picture rather than things hiding in the shadows eeiryness

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz "access them"

FallenAngelEyes

10:52 PM

@RavenDreamer We still had very very few people who chose to be in there at all. Even if you come in here during a lull, someone's likely to see it in backlog and ping you, and there's a higher chance someone who's played the game you're looking for/want a rec for will be in here just due to sheer numbers.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman That's what I was going for for the opening sequence.

spugsley

@LessPopMoreFizz how about "Those areas aren't unlockable. You can't access them.

GnomeSlice

When the characters are actually on the island, it will turn more ominous

Raven Dreamer

TIme to scrounge some food through the rain.

Ronan Forman

@Gnome That theme says deserted, which doesn't match the island.

GnomeSlice

10:55 PM

@RonanForman Dude, think of it as if you were a viewer who had no idea of what was going on. In the opening establishing shots, you're not going to know if it's deserted or not. But it's cut off from the world.

Arda Xi

At least someone knows how you're supposed to use a Mac.

Ronan Forman

But your telling the viewers it's deserted, so your lying to the audience.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman You don't watch tv/listen to music, do you.

@ArdaXi I do that all the time at school.

Pyrodante

"seemingly deserted" I like butting in to conversations I know nothing about... ignore me :D

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Sorry if I just dumped a ton of modwork in your lap FYI.

But it Needed To Be Done.

Ronan Forman

10:58 PM

@Arda that's the wrog way to do it, your paying for the overpriced hardware, but then not getting the OS which is the specialist bit.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz Kind of my fault really for not doing this gradually. Also there's 5 mods, it's not just me

GnomeSlice

@Pyrodante Ah, precisely!

Arda Xi

@RonanForman Well, they do need OS X obviously.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman The credits don't need to be 'scary', 'intense', or 'thrilling'.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Well yes, but given your answer, I assume you'll end up doing lots of it.

StrixVaria

10:59 PM

@LessPopMoreFizz That small text in your question is damning.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria I think so as well, but it's not germane to the point of posting the thread.

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz I was considering trying another meta attempt to kill ITG, but I think this is going to be more effective than anything I came up with.

Thanks @LessPopMoreFizz!

Ronan Forman

@Gnome I know, but neither should it set the wrong mood.

StrixVaria

I need to drive home now.

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