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10:00 PM
@John down? dig a great big hole. put some cobwebs at the bottom. up? die, build platforms in your hole, or teleport back to your house
 
hmm
 
@agent86 I don't have cobwebs or teleporting, and I want something better than stairs. I seem to recall something about jump up and down through wood. Is that possible?
 
@John platforms
 
@NickT the TARDIS?
 
10:02 PM
@agent86 @Ullallulloo Oh are those different than wooden blocks?
 
@John yes
 
@John yes. linked to the wiki now.
 
You can jump through them
 
you can jump up through them, or jump down through them
 
@IanPugsley :P
 
10:02 PM
@Ullallulloo @agent86 That explains why that wasn't working! Thanks guys!
 
@NickT somebody should translate that bit on the top, it'd be funny if it was actually Doctor Who-related
 
@John and cobwebs are easy to find, usually.
most caves on the surface have at least some
 
I forgot about that video. :O
 
@IanPugsley all the SWTOR text seems random...that texture is mirrored
 
@agent86 I haven't really been exploring much... I can't survive at night and there are giant chasms to either side of my base.
 
10:03 PM
@John you can build your shaft a few blocks wide, so that you have a "going down" side with no platforms for rapid decent, and then a "going up" side with platforms where you have to jump a ton.
@John build across the chasms, with dirt blocks or something
 
@agent86 I have been, it's just slow since I have a curfew. :P
 
and dying's not that big a deal. you can explore a bit first underground for copper to make some armor/weapons, but I wouldn't fear death in this game so much.
underground it doesn't tend to matter much if it's day or night
 
@agent86 Maybe after I discover where I'm supposed to store coins...
 
and you can always just build a perch or something to hide from the zombies
@John chests, piggy banks, etc. money's not super important; most of the best gear you build yourself.
 
@John a chest works
2 iron and wood, I think
 
10:06 PM
the tiny sum you have early in the game is practically worthless
bring a hammer with you when you travel and you can take chests you find
 
Oh I need iron for a chest!
@agent86 I haven't really found much yet.
But I do bring a hammer.
 
@agent86 I won't even ask what you need to make a hammer
 
@John I'd suggest going searching a bit to your left and right and find some shallow caves. Early on, if you can locate a boomerang and a few chests with some other interesting items, you'll be golden.
 
@Powerlord Wood.
 
@Powerlord just wood
 
10:07 PM
either that or go mine for copper.
 
Money comes in handy for min/maxing for hard mode bosses, but early game it is mostly for fun things like piggy banks and dynamite
 
@agent86 or break pots
 
Heh heh, you guys said wood
 
@Powerlord I get a massive hunk of wood and then I bang it hard until it's like a hammer.
 
@Adanion still it takes a few gold for a piggy bank, right?
 
10:08 PM
@NickT Well, you know how the phrase goes.
 
Yes
 
kinda tempted to pick up terraria again, can I port my old character to a new world?
 
@Powerlord Four more years?
 
@agent86 yes, and keep all your inventory
 
@agent86 Yes you can.
 
10:10 PM
@agent86 I glad I'm so inspiring. :P
 
@agent86 I do that a lot on new worlds. Go back to grab things out of chests and bring them to the new world too :D
 
woo
I was kind of pissed about the health potion changes and them making it harder
 
I guess my Dr. Horrible reference really was too subtle for you people.
 
but I think I had a full set of hellstone or whatever gear
 
Rocket Boots/Spectre Boots are the best item for going up with.
 
10:11 PM
I might see if I can't get a new Terraria server up for everybody to play on
anybody know how it goes with a bunch of people?
 
@agent86 I have silver and weaker.
@IanPugsley Pretty good, imo. I play with my brothers though. With others it could be worse.
 
@IanPugsley I have only played with 2 others and no pvp enabled
 
@Adanion ^this
but pvp's a choice
We should be good as long as wipqozn doesn't find out.
 
@IanPugsley I wouldn't think a bunch of GSE people would get into a fight that fast...
 
@IanPugsley I don't know if they have anything to prevent griefing of your houses and items
 
10:14 PM
@Adanion They don't in vanilla.
 
I imagine if I kept it quiet we wouldn't have much of a problem
post the IP here, etc.
 
1.2.3.4
 
@IanPugsley I think so also. Maybe set up a spawn jail as a precaution?
 
@Powerlord You declare a thumb war?
 
(Does Terraria have spawn jails?)
 
10:16 PM
@Adanion How did you know? :O
 
@Adanion Piggy banks help a little, I guess.
 
@Powerlord Lucky guess ;)
 
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Q: What is the current pop billiards game in the market?

UÄŸur GümüÅŸhanI played Vitual Pool 3 and it seems like no other billiards game was developed since 1998

 
@Lazers I can't decide what I should close that for.
 
@GnomeSlice Too localized.
 
10:18 PM
@GnomeSlice Off-topic
 
Either one works.
 
Almost anything but duplicate works, I suppose.
 
CLOSE it for ALL THE REASONS!
 
@Ullallulloo Piggy Banks are nice because they share the same "space" any where in the world. So if you have a spawn by the dungeon entrance and one at your main house you can put a piggy bank at each and access the same stuff.
 
"I NEED TO CHARGE!"
Auto-disconnect in 29.4 seconds...
 
10:20 PM
@RonanForman I closed it because it was a door and a jar at the same time?
 
@Ullallulloo You can also carry one and a table and access the stuff anywhere really.
 
Oh look. Wipqozn thinks I'm awesome.
 
@John his avatar smokes alot
 
@John wat?
 
@GnomeSlice Read his name.
 
10:22 PM
@John I see. Wat.
 
@GnomeSlice Clearly, I'm awesome.
 
@John His hat rack begs to differ.
 
@Ullallulloo How so? He has 11 hats; I have 17. That makes me more awesome.
 
The second highest answer on our site just got flagged as spam...
 
@RavenDreamer Which one?
 
user15026
10:24 PM
@RavenDreamer Seriously?
 
is it the one with horses?
 
@RavenDreamer It is.
 
@badp yuuup
 
user15026
What question is it from?
 
@RavenDreamer Perhaps they take offense to the language in the picture?
 
10:25 PM
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Q: Is a horse actually faster than running?

David FullertonI'm pretty disappointed with my horse. He wasn't cheap -- 1000g -- but he just doesn't seem that fast. To make things worse, he's a bit of a wolf magnet and every time I get attacked I have to tediously dismount, blast the wolf, and then remount. Is the speed of a horse actually significantly ...

 
@John That too.
 
I am disappointed with my horses all the time... because they haven't learned how to bounce yet and always die.
 
user15026
It doesn't actually answer the question, does it? (I don't really know anything about Skyrim).
 
@AshleyNunn It says that horses are faster up mountains because of the lack of physics.
 
Hi Chat.
 
10:27 PM
@Raven Wanna tackle the flags together?
 
Read the first two lines - it talks about horses are marginally faster and can sprint longer than the player.
 
Just does the show the upvotes that I picture can bring.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Hi.
 
@Mana Already in process!
 
user15026
@RavenDreamer Ah, that makes it make sense. :)
 
we can start from opposite ends and work to the middle
oh okay
 
10:28 PM
> Waiting Room Due to extremely high volumes of website traffic, you have been placed in a queue to access the page you requested. This is not an error page and you do not need to refresh your browser. This page will refresh automatically and take you into the site when there is room available.
Really?
 
user15026
What site is that for?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz ... just....wow.
 
@AshleyNunn TOR Patch Notes.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Bwahahah!
 
A Queue. To load a web page.
WHAT THE FUCK BIOWARE.
 
10:28 PM
That many people are interested in patch notes?
 
user15026
That is ridiculous. XD
 
We gotta be careful, in case we run out of internet!
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@John His name's not edited there.
 
> General Ortol can no longer be pulled out of his room.
:( Welp. There goes that exploit.
 
@Ullallulloo Your point? You didn't realize I was just trolling GnomeSlice? (And Wipqozn if he sees it?)
 
10:30 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz it wasn't copied and pasted on reddit immediately?
 
@IanPugsley It may have been, but I clicked the link from the TOR launcher
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Some context for us lowbies?
 
The default excuse for everything around here is "Trolling GnomeSlice".
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user15026
Dear University - Y U No have my REQUIRED text? Dear Prof - Y U think using comic sans on a syllabus looks "cool"?
 
@AshleyNunn You're missing a few interrobangs.
 
10:32 PM
@RavenDreamer He's a boss in a flashpoint. His 'gimmick' is that there are 4 sections of the room, and they fill with fire, so you have to kite him to the section with no fire.
 
user15026
@John I don't know how to make those. Just imagine they are there ;)
 
@John I did.
 
@AshleyNunn Google + C&P = ‽ :P
 
The problem is that the fire is buggy and really hard to see coming, so what people were doing was sending a human sacrifice noble volunteer in to pull the boss and die. He would then run out of the room into the hallway, where he could be fought gimmick free as an easy tank and spank.
 
@Ullallulloo Ok...then you mention that because...?
 
10:33 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Sounds like the Safety Dance from Naxx
@LessPop_MoreFizz Only with Fire and not poison
 
@Adanion Yeah, basically, but only 4 sections, and not in a predictable pattern.
Naxx dance was something you could simply position yourself right and hit w through if you knew the timing. This requires a bit more attention.
But it's the equivalent of being able to pull Heigan out of the room and fight him in the hallway, yeah.
 
In Wrath of the Lich King, I 3-manned the Naxx Dance (I was tanking) after the rest of the raid died to the fumes.
I think we were in 25-man mode at the time...
It's like... really, guys?
 
@RavenDreamer No enrage timer after all.
 
@RavenDreamer Yeah you could two man it as a tank with a healer as long as you both can avoid the spray.
 
Exactly.
 
10:39 PM
@Adanion Hell, by late Icecrown a DK could solo it.
 
But halfway through, It was basically, "God, do we keep this up for another 15 minutes, or just wipe and hope our DPS doesn't all @#$*ing die this time?"
 
Part of that is a problem of Wrath's severe gear inflation though.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I maintain that Burning Crusade was the most satisfying expansion. Liked it better than Wrath, anyway.
Haven't touched Cataclysm.
 
@RavenDreamer Agreed. Wrath was absolutely terrible.
 
Though the "CC doesn't matter" mentality that evolved in WotLK wasn't exactly conducive to that.
 
10:41 PM
Cataclysm was a big step up from Wrath in many ways, but it was largely... too late.
 
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Q: Will Diablo III beta achievements persist into the retail release?

Orange KidHas Blizzard mentioned anything about D3 beta achievements and rewards persisting into the retail release? Did they do that for the SC2 beta? I'm digging it but with the prospect of losing my character progress (again -- it is a beta after all) and potentially achievements (again, again) my desi...

 
@RavenDreamer CC doesn't matter was a symptom, not really the problem.
 
Right. But I mean, that was one of the things I liked about Burning Crusade.
You actually had to think because heroics were hard.
 
@RavenDreamer The problem, at it's root, was first the decision to do 10 man and 25 man and 10 hard and 25 hard, and then to compound that problem by creating ToC and severely inflating ilevels well beyond the original plan.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure I liked anything about Wrath.
 
10:42 PM
The original design for Wrath from launch called for ilevels at endgame around 240.
 
@RavenDreamer Heroics were hard at the start of Cataclysm too. CC helped you survive most trash and the bosses actually required "some" thinking.
 
Instead, they ended up at 277.
 
@Adanion Not by the time I reached them. (I leveled a DK)
 
That's a substantial change, and causes severe scaling issues.
 
I've never liked the gear inflation mentality.
 
10:43 PM
@RavenDreamer He said Cataclysm, which you didn't touch, not Wrath.
 
I mean, I don't have any obvious solutions to implement instead
Oops.
Missed that. Sorry!
 
@RavenDreamer hi-fives we're awesome
 
@RavenDreamer Mudflation will always happen, the trick is to keep it under control by smartly managing the progression of character power.
 
I really hope they revamp the gear inflation in MoP or I will probably give up on the game
 
@Mana We are!
@Adanion Did you see the blog about it?
 
10:44 PM
They are flirting with a complete and total reset but we shall see
 
You dealt 7 MEGA DAMAGE
 
And Blizzard completely dropped the ball on that in Wrath because they implemented roughly 7 more 'levels' of gear over the course of the expansions lifetime than the level 80 conversion factors were designed to handle.
 
@RavenDreamer Yeah... It just made me sigh
 
Which meant that you had melee classes at endgame worried about arcane and esoteric things like 'crit capping' which should have been impossible.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz What made me mad was once again replacing a legendary item with a green...
 
10:46 PM
@Adanion Eh, that has to happen. It's the way MMO's work, and it happened to the people that carried Sulfuras into BC, and it happened to people with Warglaives going into Wrath.
you need a gear reset. That's fine.
 
There's also the "level cap goes up and up and up"
85 levels is too many
(IMO)
 
@RavenDreamer Isn't MoP going to be another 10?
 
In addition to mudflation, I mean.
@Adanion 5
 
@RavenDreamer You need a level cap increase in order to properly implement a gear reset.
@RavenDreamer Adding levels doesn't directly mean anything though. You can tweak xp values so that time to max level is constant.
It doesn't really have any impact on character power.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yes. But the more levels you add, the less likely (as I see it) people are to actually make it to the end game.
"I want to roll an alt, but I don't want to level to 85"
 
10:48 PM
@RavenDreamer Why? If it takes 6 million XP to get through 85 levels, and 6 million xp to get through 95 levels, what's the difference?
 
@RavenDreamer The first 70 levels are a joke now. Even without heirlooms and recruit-a-friend
 
@Adanion I guess this is my Burning Crusade mentality showing its face again
 
Blizzard has gone way out of their way to make levelling from 1-70 the most pleasant thing on earth, and incredibly fast besides.
 
ROAST BEEF SANDWICHES
 
@RavenDreamer It's showing that you never experienced the revamped old world from cataclysm.
 
10:49 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz The revamped quests are enjoyable
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz But it certainly makes BC and Wrath painful
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Well, I did. Made it to level 40, twice. Then I let my account get frozen for two months, and then (while still frozen) I got banned.
 
levelling in the old world is a joke now
BC and Wrath are still easy to level in
 
And since I have no compelling reason to contest the ban (i.e., send a letter to california with the required proof of identity) I have no reason to continue.
 
10:50 PM
@NickT Yes, but the quest styles are so boring compared to the new styles.
 
Did you not play vanilla wow? You'd have to either a) grind a shitton or b) ping-pong across the entire damn world to do quests
 
@NickT I did. The issue isn't that it's easy or not
 
@NickT Yep and I also had to grind mindlessly for days and days to get my epic mount
 
The issues is that I, personally do not want to do the same content for the 4th time or whatever.
 
that's valid, but that's the issue in virtually any RPG
 
10:52 PM
@Adanion 1-60 in azeroth, LFD from 60-80, because BC and wrath 5 mans were pretty fast and easy.
 
And my opinion is that arbitrarily high level caps make the ascent seem worse than it is.
 
@RavenDreamer I think that is why I am starting to get bored with MMOs so quickly now.
 
@RavenDreamer Right, and i'm saying that, for me anyways, it's more about the amount of XP/Time required. Having a bigger or smaller level number doesn't matter.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz You mean we're two people with different likes and dislikes?
le gasp!
:)
 
@RavenDreamer I know, I can't believe it!
 
10:53 PM
I don't think we can support stuff such as PERSONALITIES
 
user15026
We must all be the same, like Daleks or Cybermen but without the exterminating and deleting all the time.
 
@RavenDreamer Honestly, us being two different people is a statement predicated on your personhood. I'm on to you shark...
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Telegram!
 
@RavenDreamer Land Shark!
 
10:59 PM
Keep trying!
 
Is it 49 or 25 hours remaining in Hat Dash?
Because either way TIME IS RUNNING OUT! HATS GO AWAY SOON! PANIC! COMMENCE HAT-FISHING!
 
@RonanForman I am ಠ_ಠ so hard at you right now.
 
user15026
@LessPop_MoreFizz MUST GET ALL THE HATS RIGHT NOW
 
How are you both mod and the highest rep user, yet you can't use mark down?
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CRASHES THROUGH THE FRENCH EMERGENCY SHIELDS
Ha! You haven't seen that coming did you?
 
11:02 PM
@RonanForman Because I am a shark. No fingers. :(
 
@Fredy31 Not the French Emergency Shields! Our hull will be penetrated by thousands of Baguettes within mere minutes! Our Reactors will be flooded by an overwhelming sense of existential ennui and stop reacting! Our video comm systems will display nothing but Maurice Chevalier and Jerry Lewis.
I don't know if I can handle that!
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oui?
 
@RavenDreamer I've never felt this ashamed of you before in my life.
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Not even when you posted that SAP meme.
 
Sweet Jazz will be deployed in 3... 2... 1... +1 to anybody that gets the reference
 
@Fredy31 ARE YOU KIDDING ME EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG GETS IT. I HATE YOU.
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11:04 PM
@Fredy31 You're asking the gaming chat if anyone has ever played portal 2?
 
@Fredy This is the internet, who doesn't get it?
 
@Mana SAP?
 
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Q: Garry's Mod - Getting all necessary props

Fredy31When playing custom Garry's mod maps, I find it quite annoying to have 3/4 of the items being the big bright red error prop, meaning that I don't have that thing in any of my owned games. I do own Portal 1 and 2, L4D 2 and TF2, so I'm guessing all that stuff comes from Half-Life, that I do not o...

 
Sweet Jazz?
 
The people that got an arrow to the knee. YEAH FOR OVERUSED MEMES!
 
11:05 PM
@Mana And how can you not like SNL?
 
It's smooth jazz anyway.
 
My dad thought the arrow to the knee joke was hysterical.
Once I explained it to him.
sigh
 
Um. Okay.
Note to self: Googling characters from Archer with safesearch on Moderate turns up porn videos.
 
@RavenDreamer Well let that be a lesson to you.
 
@RavenDreamer Actors or Characters?
 
11:09 PM
@GnomeSlice Characters.
 
These character names SOUND like pornstars.
Lana Kane
Trinette
 
Let's be honest. Google is only used for porn anyway.
 
@GnomeSlice So True
 
@GnomeSlice Framboise means raspberry.
 
Malory Archer
 
11:10 PM
How does that get me porn?
 
@RavenDreamer Sounds like something a pornstar would pick.
 
Because that is ... illegal
 
Not to mention Woodhouse.
 
@RavenDreamer Socially Akward Penguin
 
@Gnome Have you ever thought of the names of fish? trout. salmon. Carp.
 
11:11 PM
@Mana GOOGLING FRUIT SHOULD NOT GET ME EXPLICIT PORN!
 
As pornstars? No.
 
:(
Though come to think of it
I bet google has porn results for most searches.
Rule #34 and all
 
DI BUS CAN SWIM
 
SWTOR's map is irritating too
if you move, it turns transparent...which includes seethe and using a taxi
 
@NickT Yeah, the taxi part is what annoys me.
 
11:19 PM
then you can't zoom into different sections, or out to the galaxy map
 
But then, really, everything about the SWTOR UI annoys me. It's just terrible across the board.
@NickT You can if you're really really fast about clicking.
Like, position your mouse before you hit the M key and spam clicking.
 
Whoa!
Grobot always has a unique sound.
 
@LessPopMoreFizz and why can't I just quicktravel to any point in the galaxy
 
@NickT Because 'Quick Travel' is calling for a local shuttle that can't jump to hyperspace. DUH.
 
Well combine that with the emergency fleet pass
 
11:25 PM
the eureka effect is probably overpowered on granary :/
It was hard enough to take down teleporters from the forward 2nd point
now it can become downright impossible
 
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Q: Levelling as a Medicine Operative

LessPop_MoreFizzI'm levelling an Operative, and I'd like to try my hand at a more Medicine centric build. My Concealment-specced practice of knifing people and then hitting Kolto Infusion isn't cutting it anymore in Flashpoints, and Kaliyo is turning into a sufficiently capable tank that I'm thinking it's probab...

 
and, unlike in gorge, there's not much you can do to prevent those teleporters from going up
 
@NickT Because they want you to buy the 1K Disposable Fleet Passes which encourage you to use an authenticator and act as a credit sink
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Have you done much PvP in SWTOR?
 
@Mana Might like this.
Give it some time to get going.
 
11:30 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz what's CD on disposable ones?
 
@NickT 1 hour.
 
So relaxing.
 
@Adanion A little huttball and such. Not too much
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I haven't gotten into it much either and I have been reading about balance problems at level 50 but threads are painful to read. It is very difficult to get anything usable out of the whining posts and the "Scrub L2P" posts.
 
11:35 PM
@Adanion So far I know: Sorc's are absurd, and Concealment Operatives are like the glory days of WoW Rogue stunlock 100-0 nonsense.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Bummer
 
user15026
WOOOOOO For once being silly and pedantic is totally paying off. GO GO Technical Communication. XD
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz what's wrong with sorc?
 
@AshleyNunn Being silly and pedantic always pays off. If not in tangible rewards, certainly in smug self satisfaction.
 
user15026
@LessPop_MoreFizz You have a very valid point there. XD But this way it gets me a good mark in a class, potentially.
 
11:39 PM
3 Sorc's and a Jugg can basically control Huttball. For a WoW comparison, imagine 3 priests chaining life grips on a fully decked out prot warrior in WSG - except said priests also happen to be the highest damage class in the game and have a knockback to keep people off of them as well.
 
trips in whats left of the FRENCH SHIELD
Oh hello
 
so SWTOR PvP = lvl 19s and lvl 50s
...
 
@GnomeSlice Grobot. GROBOT.
do people even try with their artist names anymore.
 
@Mana walking...walking...walking... GROBOT. GROBOT.
@Mana Also, have you heard of Fetch?
 
@GnomeSlice no
 
11:49 PM
Also WHOA.
This is one of my new favourite tracks.
 
@NickT That's what Bolster is for.
@NickT There's no brackets. Instead everyone gets a buff called Bolster that buffs their stats to be equivalent to the highest level player in the BG.
 
@NickT Of course, that doesn't 100% solve the problem of a level 19 not quite having a full toolbox compared to a level 50, but it does a fair amount.
 
@GnomeSlice damn it man it's clearly not music hour yet.
 
I can't understand... How... the fuck. youtube.com/watch?v=cOpz2MKIpWc
 
11:52 PM
More Fetch. Absolutely beautiful.
Dunno if you guys have heard of Cutman, but a lot of you will probably like him. He does a lot of video game stuff.
I can't really place this one but I think it's Zelda.
That's not Cutman.
NEUS
And everyone left.
 
Classic night on the bridge... @GnomeSlice talks to himself.
 
GnomeSlice. I think it's time for you to understand that neither me nor anyone else in this chatroom has five sets of ears.
 
PLAYLIST.
 

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