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1:00 PM
Quake 4 had limited leveling for a few weapons
For example, the rocket launcher would be upgraded to fire 3 rockets at once
The railgun would be upgraded to zoom and fire penetrating shots IIRC
The nailgun would be upgraded to have nails home on targets
(...and that was it)
so I guess levelling up gives you this kind of bonuses
 
@badp Yeah, that's not the same as what leveling up does to your weapons in Fallout.
Especially in FO3, where you can 'hit' the enemy and still miss them because of low skill.
 
What does leveling up do to your weapon in Fallout?
oh
ew
 
(Essentially, your skill affects a weapons 'spread' in FO3, reducing it over time. At low skill, your gun has a fairly high spread, which means that your crosshair is... not terribly useful.)
 
oh. kind of like Deus Ex then
 
FO:NV improves on this substantially, because weapons have real iron sights that are in fact quite accurate - low weapon skill instead affects damage, and makes your weapon wobble like mad.
and now, I am going back to bed because it is still dark out.
 
1:08 PM
0
Q: How do critical hits work?

lunboksOccasionally, when I hurt mobs in Beta 1.8, there's a brief sparkle effect. Apparently, this indicates a critical hit. How does one score a critical hit? What does a critical hit actually do?

 
1:29 PM
0
Q: Is it possible to stop the repop system in Far Cry 2?

Dran DaneThere is a system of auto repop in Far Cry 2. Is it possible to stop it?

 
@Lazers Wait, didn't we just get this question?
 
1 hour ago, by Lazers
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Q: Is it possible to stop repop in Oblivion?

Dran DaneIs it possible to stop repop in Oblivion ? Is it possible to block auto leveling repop ?

Different game
 
Geh
 
@badp I'm still surprised you asked about the setup thing. One of the loading screen tips talks about it iirc.
 
@Powerlord Yes, and somebody reddited it. And I called bullshit. Then I looked into this further. And then I realized. And I improved the wiki articles.
So many people do it regardless, because, after all, you want to do it half the time anyway
and you gotta kill that minute anyway
 
1:39 PM
Well, there's another dev joined the site to answer a question.
 
@GnomeSlice ?
 
5
A: What Triggers the Addition of New Balls in 'Relentless' Mode?

John PickfordIt's not random. The process of adding balls to the table is triggered when the number balls remaining falls below a certain threshold (25% I think) and continues for several shots until the the table contains the original number of balls. If you clear the table quite quickly it's entirely pos...

John Pickford is one of the devs (the Pickford brothers).
 
I see, I see
 
Oh neat!
 
@badp See you made the same mistake I did.
 
1:44 PM
@Mana, if you're going to upvote his answer, upvote the question too. ಠ_ಠ
 
I already did upvote his answer a while ago
along with the question
when I converted his comment-answer to a comment
 
Heh.
 
It's great that I can totally shift blame onto @Mana just by being silent.
5
 
I was reading up on these guys last night.
 
@GraceNote yeah, I read the chatlog of your asking the question, then read the chatlog of Powerlord's anwering
 
1:45 PM
Apparently they're legends in the field.
@GraceNote I misread that as 'blame shit on @Mana'.
 
Gasp! Gnome, are you implying that Grace could be vulgar?! Why, that would be most unGraceful.
 
Yet Noteworthy, hmm..
 
Did any of you ever play Wetrix?
 
@GnomeSlice I took a quick glance at the javasciprt on the helek keller game, and it does look like it's 100% random
 
@TimStone BOOM! NAILED IT.
 
1:47 PM
Can't say I've ever heard of it, @GnomeSlice
 
@Wipqozn I think it's pretty evident.
@GraceNote Well, the Pickford Brothers apparently worked on that as well.
 
So probably another iOS game?
 
@Mana MY MORNING IS NOW COMPLETE! Except I need a haircut, so time to go out.
 
@GraceNote N64.
They've been working in the industry for 28 years apparently.
 
Oh. I can't seem to get mine working on my TV, it's a bit annoying because after perhaps a decade of searching I finally got another copy of Ogre Battle 64
 
1:50 PM
@GraceNote Fine, I starred it. ARGH.
 
0
Q: Why should I resize my embark site?

andronikusI recently learned that it's possible to change the size of my embark site before starting a fortress, from the default 4x4 down to 1x1 and up to the size of the whole "Local" window, whatever that is. I'm having trouble figuring out what might be the downside of using the largest possible map. ...

 
@Mana You needn't star if you don't want to.
 
@GraceNote Yes he does.
 
Well, it was amusing. But at the same time it's like admitting that people can steamroll over me!
So I'm torn.
 
@Mana Fact - anyone who has a steamroller can do that to you.
 
1:51 PM
Heya moderators, is there a way to see if an answer has been downvoted or not?
 
You might as well accept that.
@BrettWhiteΨ Three ways to do it. Which question?
 
@BrettWhiteΨ You just click on the vote count. You need a certain rep though.
 
@GnomeSlice That needs 1000 reputation, and is method 1.
 
@BrettWhite Yeah, actually. Want me to check the vote counts on the fall grant question?
 
@GraceNote Just want to make sure when I tally the gaming grant results that I take down votes and toss'em out
 
1:53 PM
I know there were some downvotes there
 
@Mana As long as you follow up by steamrolling someone else, it all works out.
 
@BrettWhiteΨ Ah, gotcha. Well, option 3 is what @Mana suggested - pester @Mana for the full count.
 
@Mana Yes, please. I don't think it's done until this afternoon, but it will need to be done
Down voting, come on people, so petty. We can't have nice things!
 
Ah. I'm not going to be around in the afternoon because of SKOOL. Anyone else up to volunteering?
 
The remaining option is to use timeline view, go to /posts/<questionid>/timeline for the question as a whole and it'll give you the vote breakdown on all answers as well.
 
1:54 PM
@BrettWhiteΨ What time would you need it at?
as in how many hours will you need it
 
@TimStone They would have to be rather flat for me to steamroll them in an already flattened state!
 
@Wipqozn I just checked, it doesn't close until tomorrow at 4 pm eastern. So we have a while
 
@BrettWhiteΨ Oh okay. I think I'll be around then.
 
I am making sure I know what to do so I won't be scrambling tomorrow afternoon
 
@GraceNote go to /posts/<questionid>/timeline install the awesome userscript and then click the link.
 
1:55 PM
Oh, cool. Conveniently, I am around for then.
 
@Wipqozn Awesome
 
@BrettWhiteΨ Yeah, I should be around then.
 
@TimStone You'll never take me alive!
 
I suspect you're right, I got a bit lazy when it came to implementing the kidnapping feature.
 
@TimStone You might not be Dutch enough to write that properly
 
1:57 PM
Why does the starred list always make me look a) boring. b) like a jerk. c) handicapped.
 
@GnomeSlice Well...
 
Speaking of which, I guess I should add a star to that poll
 
I disagree about the boring part, due to the helen keller game, but I agree with the jerk comment due to the hellnk keller game.
 
@badp I was rather disappointed in my lack of proper kidnapping lingo and compound words, yes.
 
IF it helps though, I shared helen keller with a bunch of people, so I'm a jerk too.
 
1:59 PM
@TimStone Like with NewSpeak, if you lack the words, there's not much you can do.
 
12 hours ago, by GnomeSlice
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is a jerk.
 
@GnomeSlice is in class, trying not to burst out laughing at that
 
Oh my god that's awful ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I'm a jerkpfffffffffffffffftahahahaha
 
@badp I'll go sulk off to do that "going out" thing I was talking about earlier then.
 
slaps self in the face
 
2:00 PM
@Mana Did you play the game?
 
@TimStone that... what?
 
@badp I think he means he's going outside.
 
going... where?
 
@GnomeSlice outside? ew.
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To get a haircut.
 
2:02 PM
Dammit @Brant, you pushed the starred list down again.
 
Maybe on your weirdo screen resolution.
 
<title>
MMMMMRRRGHNRRRGHRHGRHGHRMMMHRH
</title>
Also, @Mana, Raven is abusing his power.
:P
12 hours ago, by Raven Dreamer
Yeah, I'ma nip that in the bud and save you from getting flagged for somethin' like that, sir.
QQ
 
@GnomeSlice did he ever comment on why he thought that would be flagged?
 
@Wipqozn Probably just based on the thumbnail image.
 
What was it? And don't post it, just tell me what it was roughly.
 
2:08 PM
@GraceNote A song from Spongebob squarepants, keyed and layered to sound really, really creepy.
posts
12 hours ago, by GnomeSlice
 
@GnomeSlice So, the same as the video that's immediately following? Or is that in reference to that one?
 
0
Q: What's that game: Dwarfs digging for jewels

jrudolphThere was a RTS game from the mid-late 90's (I think a DOS game), where you had some kind of creatures (dwarfs?) digging for jewels in a "dungeon" build out of hexagons(?). It seemed like a early predecessor of dungeon keeper. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name or any more details. Anyone?

 
@GraceNote No, he deleted the first one, so I reposted it.
 
Is there a difference between the two links or are they identical?
 
@GraceNote Identical.
 
2:10 PM
Hum. Wonder why one but not other.
 
4 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
Also, @Mana, Raven is abusing his power.
 
@GraceNote I think he was trying to do Gnome a favour, then stopped caring when he re-posted it.
 
4 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
:P
@Wipqozn Silly Raven.
 
Man, Raven's a cool guy. No need to call him out like this.
YOU'LL GET HIS MODERATOR POWERS REMOVED.
 
@Mana Oh, I'm just poking fun. I voted for him and stuff.
 
2:11 PM
@Mana I concur. Like I said, I think he was just trying to do Gnome a favour because he didn't want him to get suspended.
 
@GnomeSlice You lie.
 
again.
 
@Mana Don't worry, we'll find a way to scapegoat you instead. ♪
 
Hurray for not being respected!
 
Well, you're not like Raven. eh kills aliens and don't afraid of anything.
 
2:12 PM
Has anyone here had any luck logging into chat from the Steam browser in the overlay?
 
true
@FallenAngelEyes Oh god, you're trying to use that abomination?!
 
@Mana I'll take that as a no!
 
@GraceNote 'aleins, doesn't'*
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yes.
You need to log into stack overflow in order to access chat.
OTherwise it will keep telling you to log in
 
@GnomeSlice Oh, fish.
 
2:14 PM
assumes that's your problem
 
@Wipqozn Has to be SO, not gaming?
 
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah. Chat will still use gaming as your parent user and all that though.
 
@GraceNote f...fish?
 
It's a really weird glitch. I assume it has to do with the way it stores cookies.
 
Steam sucks.
 
2:15 PM
@Wipqozn You sure about that?
 
@Mana ...it's an older version of the same browser engine that drives both Google Chrome and Apple Safari.
 
'Said @Gracenote, as he posted from the Steam browser.'
 
@GnomeSlice Yes.
 
@GraceNote 100%. I used to be able to log in with no problems, then one day I could no longer log into chat. I resolved the issue by logging into the so first.
Well if that is the problem you are having @FallenAngelEyes, try logging into SO
 
@Wipqozn Check the reply on that message.
 
2:17 PM
@Wipqozn Guess I have to make an SO account
@Wipqozn That worked, thank you!
 
@FallenAngelEyes You're welcome.
 
@Mana ???
 
@Powerlord Huh, really? It causes Steam to freeze up every time I try to use it.
 
Oh wait, did I already post this.
 
Yes.
 
2:20 PM
@Mana Sue me.
 
@FallenAngelEyes This strikes me as a major bug.
 
@GraceNote Indeed. I haven't experienced the problem anywhere other then on steam though, so I assume it's a flaw in the browser
 
Gah, Firefox and Youtube, stop resetting the volume on Youtube movies to 100%.
 
@GraceNote Hm, probably. The browser I use doesn't log into SE normally even, so I'm used to issues.
 
@Wipqozn I repro'd it here on Firefox, actually, as well as Chrome.
 
2:23 PM
@GraceNote Well then, colour me mistaken.
 
Logged into a multitude of SE sites other than Stack Overflow. Get a drop down that says "You need to log into any Stack Exchange site", but when trying to log in it tells you to log into a Stack Exchange site.
 
@GraceNote That's the main problem I have. When I do the troubleshooting, it tells me that localstorage isn't enabled on my browser, even though it is.
But it allows me to still use a direct link to log in so I use that most of the time
I spent a large amount of time attempting to troubleshoot it with balpha way back, but we kind of gave up
 
Alright, heading to class now. Shine on you crazy gamebros.
 
Well, one thing I've noticed is that I can access through a site other than Stack Overflow.
I just have to explicitly login first, I can't use a login from prior to the logout.
 
@Mana enjoy class
 
2:30 PM
0
Q: E GPV gamepad vibration?

HarshadDoes any one know how can I enable vibration to my Enter gamepad?? I am playing Prince Of Persia Forgotten Sands.

 
Alright, yeah, so I don't see anything Stack Overflow specific here.
 
rain, thunder and sun
 
well my class is over
 
wtf, Dutch
 
@badp welcome to Dutch autumns
 
2:42 PM
That reminds me, I need to play Flower, Sun, and Rain at some point.
It sounds like an interesting game despite the name. :P
 
Woo! Got the bare bones of my game engine working.
 
That sounds like it was done pretty fast.
 
class Ball():
  pass

class Player():
  pass

class Game():
  pass
 
@GraceNote Uh, I spent about two nights working on it, with a break on Saturday and most of sunday.
Then, this morning, I finally got the moving platforms working properly.
I had to figure out how to use instanceof properly.
 
@RavenDreamer I don't think that disqualifies the "That was done pretty fast"
 
2:53 PM
@RavenDreamer Wait... Java?
 
Deadlines are powerful motivators.
 
And you didn't know how to use instanceof before now? :O
 
@Powerlord Processing, which is a Java library, so yes.
 
@Powerlord Aye, he has to work in Java
 
@Powerlord Most of my work with generics is in C#, not Java.
I knew approximately what to do, just I had the syntax wrong (was treating InstanceOf like a method)
 
2:54 PM
pulls out a copy of Effective Java, Second Edition
 
cowers
Actually, I don't really dislike Java.
 
I dislike Java... for desktop applications.
And for webapps if you use raw Servlets and crud like that.
 
Yeah, I hear Java's really good for servers.
 
@Powerlord Me too.
Although I would use something more lean for most webapps.
 
That reminds me, I downloaded the latest 1.6 JDK at home and forgot to actually install it.
Anyway, the book I just referenced has a large number of gotchas about Java's Generics system available in its sample chapter.
 
2:57 PM
I do need to figure out how to separate my classes into different files.
I'd rather I didn't have a 450 line pogram.
 
@RavenDreamer Usually one file per class, no? Or is that just C#?
 
@ArdaXi I assume he means to break one class into multiple, smaller classes.
 
A 450 line class? Ouch.
 
@ArdaXi Yes. And that's what I tried to implement. But because of the way processing works, if I try to move the classes into separate files, it breaks some of the method calls.
@ArdaXi No, 450 lines is the entire program.
Which contains 6 or so classes.
 
2:59 PM
@RavenDreamer Then you're doing it wrong, somehow.
 
@ArdaXi And anyway, I haven't found out quite how to fix it.
Thanks, Captain Obvious :P
 
@ArdaXi er... I have a 987 line Servlet on my other monitor right now. :O
(988 if you count the blank last line)
 
goes back to Ruby
 
Granted, the guy who designed this didn't design a separate Servlet for each action.
I still think I could write several DailyWTF articles from this project.
 
This is why I don't program corporate. No, wait, that's my age. Please hire me.
 
3:02 PM
Heh.
I should get back to a video player I'm supposed to be developing.
 
@Powerlord That game looks pretty neat, I was thinking about getting it
 
But... but... 20 minutes of Skyrim video!
 
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Q: Is there a technique to knocking down doors?

Ian PotterIn Dead Island, there is an achievement called Knock, Knock which is completed by breaching a locked door on the first attempt. The meter in the game is incomprehensible to me and I've never been able to open a door in under three blows. Is there some technique that is more effective for knockin...

 
3:27 PM
Hmm, Prop Hunt updated to 1.8
and yet, the Machina is still allowed.
 
0
Q: Does the handling of cars differ in Dirt 3?

HarpalWhen driving cars in Dirt 3 I notice no real difference in handling between different cars in the same class and race type. Apart from the obvious differences in weight, HP and the vehicle setup are differences in the cars only "Cosmetic" and do they all handle the same?

0
Q: Farming Crawmerax

MikeI'm a level 47 Siren right now and I'm killing some of the minions that Crawmerax spawns to try to quickly boost my level. They're level 61 - 62 and while I do get some good experience from killing them, it is a really really slow process and I feel like I'm wasting my time. At what point should...

 
@Powerlord Prop hunt? That Gmod gamemode?
 
@ArdaXi A TF2 game mode mod also
Special maps, you get a random prop as your model
And then pyros have to go and find you
 
Hmm, well, the Gmod gamemode was first.
I liked it before it was cool! [/hipster]
 
Could be.
 
3:40 PM
I used to run a fairly popular Gmod server.
Then I wrote and installed an r9k plugin. It was fun.
 
@ArdaXi Yes, it was, and it still has more features.
Although the TF2 version isn't bad if you're on a propmenu-enabled server.
 
I dunno, Prop Hunt on TF2 maps seems weird.
CS:S maps are more suitable. TF2 has a far more clean look, less props scattered around.
 
@ArdaXi They use mostly custom maps for it.
 
Ah. Hm.
 
ph_headquarters is one of my favorites. Not much horizontal space, but lots of vertical space.
 
3:45 PM
cs_italy is my favourite still.
Although I'm also partial to cs_office.
 
arena_harvest_v2 is one of the easier maps to find props on in TF2 (yes, they have prop hunt configs for some arena maps). It has a correspondingly short timer, though.
Some maps have really cheesy hiding spots. ph_manor has a pile of books prop that can hidden almost completely inside one of the map's existing props.
 
I haven't played prophunt for ages
 
ph_manor being the actual manor part from cp_manor_event with some new rooms and hallways.
 
It was kinda fun for a brief time, until you learned where all the default prop spawnpoints were
 
0
Q: Weird zombie astronauts in call of duty black ops zombies

ProSayWho or what are those zombie astronaut with the weird names in black ops rezurrection that appear randomly?

 
3:48 PM
I still don't get why most TF2 Prop Hunt servers have prop changing disabled. Dumbest. Idea. Ever.
 
Oh, by the way, @Powerlord, good news for you.
Google is seeking to replace Javascript.
 
Particularly if you get assigned the control point prop.
@ArdaXi So, Dart is intended to be a client-side language?
 
@Powerlord It's supposed to replace Javascript fully, yes.
Google is planning to make all of its services Dart-only eventually.
 
The articles I read weren't clear about if it was supposed to be server-side, client-side, or both.
Hopefully its syntax and stuff don't suck.
 
I doubt we'll find out more until the presentation they're going to make.
 
3:51 PM
> We will strongly encourage Google developers start off targeting Chrome-only whenever possible as this gives us the best end user experience. However, for some apps this will not make sense, so we are building a compiler for Dash that targets Javascript (ES3). We intend for existing Google teams using GWT and JSCompiler to eventually migrate to the Dash compiler.
 
Just got a frantic call from my brother: "Hey, dude. Have you seen the car?" Me:"Why, is it missing?" Brother: "..." hangs up.
 
I guess he found the car.
 
No, I think he realized it got towed.
 
hrm
Sure I have super low visual quality settings
...but this kinda looks a message from Ryanair about what you can and can't board
 
Oh, right, I almost forgot. I finally got Pyromancer while playing Prop Hunt last week. \o/
 
3:55 PM
 
Why is Quick-Fix on the No list, anyway?
 
Because the Quickfix can't overheal
so it always charges at full speed
(unless it's holding somebody at 142.5%+ health, or the patient is already being healed obviously)
so if a quickfix medic heals you don't bother damaging yourself
 
Ubercharge charge rate is directly related to how much damage you're healing.
 
wat?
 
Quick Fix makes a weird noise.
 
3:57 PM
All I know is healing somebody at 142.5%+ health charges 50% as much
The QuickFix can't get you there so that penalty can't apply
the GRU and the RL also suck at going below 142.5% health
 
@badp Right... but that just means the Quick-Fix charges 50% as much when you have 100% health instead.
 
@Powerlord ...not
 
@badp I think you';re doing them wrong. I can kill myself via rocket jumping with a regular medigun healing me.
Just find a place with a low ceiling.
 
@badp Have you actually tested this? I freely admit I haven't, but I'm basically working off of prior knowledge.
 
@RavenDreamer Most spawn rooms don't apply
@Powerlord Same here, a 50% drop in recharge rate would be more than noticeable
 
3:59 PM
@badp Most spawn rooms have a door.
 
user30
Eh
 
user30
I'm pretty sure that the ubercharge rate increases when healing people with low health
 
user30
Also, the RL does not suck at lowering your health
 
I wonder if stuttering the medigun / GRU would work?
I.e., GRU for 10 seconds, medigun for 8, repeat.
Provide higher net benefit than 18 seconds of regular charging.
 
4:21 PM
@RavenDreamer That would give you, er, 6 seconds at 100% for every 18 seconds of cycle?
at most?
@ThomasMcDonald With one rocket jump you go barely below 142.5%
The detonator in comparison is much better.
If I understand correctly this is what you're suggesting
(How much overheal do you lose per second again?)
Oh, right, I might've gone the overheal loss wrong
150 hp over 15 seconds is 10 hp per second
 
Oh yay, I just got banned from the AlliedModders forum for reporting spam posts because this is the second time I'm reporting the same spam posts.
It's only a one day ban, but if the mods would do their damn jobs, I wouldn't have had to flag them twice a month apart.
 
4:38 PM
If you can fill up those 10 seconds at 100% it looks like a viable plan
 
We need another TF2 room.
 
Did you see me whine about Chantelise chat or Deus Ex chat or other games I don't own?
 
@badp No, I whined about them for you.
 
You should have been quicker, I had a free Deus Ex coupon, but someone already snagged it.
This being the first time I mentioned that in here, I'm not sure how you could have been quicker, but I consider this a minor detail.
Also, hair = cut and it's time for lunch.
 
I must make a mental note to beg for games blindly more. I'm sure that won't affect my reputation
(I mean DE:HR btw. Or DX:HR if you're Arda.)
 
4:43 PM
@GnomeSlice We need another MineCraft room. Oh wait, we have one, but you guys talk about MineCraft here anyway. So, I hope you don't mind if I call you a hypocrite.
 
@Powerlord When was the last time I flooded the room with Minecraft?
 
@badp You probably should. I actually have a DiRT3 coupon too, if anyone is interested in that. I got around to building a new computer and AMD threw Steam games at me.
 
Ooh yay, I'm banned and then someone asks a support question in one of my SourceMod plugin threads. The first one in weeks.
On the other hand, they practically gave me an open invitation to explain why I couldn't answer their question today (yesterday by the time I answer it).
@TimStone Did they also throw bac... er... wit... no, witches doesn't make sense here... at you?
 
I wish, it would have saved me the trouble of making lunch.
 
Now it would kinda twisted if I'd asked that and they'd given you .
 

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