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4:04 PM

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Q: What is the most advanced game AI right now?

Of all the games available right now, what are those with the most advanced and powerful AIs to play against?

57 now.

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Take that @RonanForman @LessPopMoreFizz @FallenAngelEyes

FallenAngelEyes

hehe

FallenAngelEyes

4:17 PM

Gonna ask here too.

in Gaming Blog Editor room, 7 mins ago, by FallenAngelEyes

Hrm. I'm pondering maybe writing an article on gender perceptions and their impact on gaming clothing/armor/class options. Do you think that's too heavy for the blog?

@FallenAngelEyes Not really.

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Q: Help in identifying a multiplayer strategy/card game.

The game had a demo on a PCGamer disc back in the late 90's, between 98-2000. I remember you were able to move your unit(s)? on an Isometric board, and actions were done through using cards in your hand. If I remember right it was heavily based around multiplayer, and I believe you could even buy...

identify-this-game strategy demo card-game card-based

FallenAngelEyes

On the plus side, there are several places I can link it too that might not necessarily come across the site otherwise.

When Spiral Knights asked me to select an initial armor, I noticed that a number of those had a bump on the chest, possibly to accomodate breasts. I circled a little bit to see if this was just on a few of them or all of them. I then settled for the one that underlined this the most (through simply having a couple of decorative swirls on that area; not an inch of skin can ever be seen) on the basis that, hey, if all characters are female, I might as well be proud to!

On a second thought that really doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I guess I was just being the stereotypical man who can't …

Kick It updated, possibly for the ticket.

4:25 PM

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Relevant - Spiral Knights is also updating soon.

Im not looking forward to the spiral knights ticket

got the audiosurf one, and possible bit.trip runner one last night

FallenAngelEyes

there was an audiosurf one?

there was an update for a new achievement

it was paint 21 blocks red

Sunburn
Turn 21 blocks red with a single paint.

Bought the firecracker recipe, crafted two

I'm going to sell one at the AH and hold the other for one of you.

If no regular wants it from here id love to have one :)

where did you get the recipe

about how far into the game town wise?

4:30 PM

The recipe was available in the bazaar

Got that Alien Breed ticket finally

turns out it works in SP..

which was alot easier to do than coop.

FallenAngelEyes

@badp How expensive is it?

250cr (recipe) + 200cr + 10 energy (crafting)

@badp You forgot materials.

Well, I had tons of brimstone and red shards.

4:33 PM

Although those are pretty common ones (red shards and I forgot what else)

Tons... well, enough to make two.

Oh yeah, I have tons of Brimstone as well.

That reminds me, I need to check the AH today for Power Cells.

I could've probably made a 3rd but oh well

how long would it take to get 3000 crowns?

I bid on one this morning, but likely got outbid.

4:33 PM

apparently you can buy them outright for that from a vendor

@Loktar Probably a single run through a gate.

@Loktar it's really a bad idea

A normal run nets you 2.7k + material for 70 energy circa

so its not an unrealistic ticket to get in a day

@badp Is that counting selling the gate materials or not?

@Powerlord okay, 2.8k

What's sad is that 70 energy sells for more than 2.7k

With current energy prices to "break even" you'd have to not die (60 energy) and make 3,420 crowns

which you might be able to if you are lucky enough in selling materials, but then you're back at the starting point

4:38 PM

well if no one here wants the extra Id definitely take it, otherwise Ill attempt the fastest way to get one

I feel like ticket hunting is my 2nd job lately

The recipe is found in the bazaar; there's a crafting station nearby

before you take the plounge just check you have the materials

Im sure now youll get something for all the tickets, sort of like the golden potato on the profile page

yeah I def will @badp

FallenAngelEyes

All the tickets would be a... lot of game purchases

3 red shards + 2 brimstone

Ive only had to buy 3 so far I think

alchemy cost = crowns to craft?

Im looking at the wiki page

4:40 PM

yes - 200cr + 10 energy

ok so its 450cr + mats

If you already have it all the total cost including energy is 1,020 crowns

a bit cheaper than 3k

ive only played for 30 mins

so I have nothing pretty much

just made it to that first town past the tutorial.

I think it's the only town anyway

then you might want to do a trip, or take mine :)

I would love to use yours

could I take it, get the ticket, then give it back

4:42 PM

@badp I thought Moorcraft and such were towns, down on level 8.

or it could be yours to remain for 895.

@Powerlord I think of them as checkpoints really.

FallenAngelEyes

They're sorta towns, but there's not as much there as Haven

no bazaar access

at least not in Moorcraft

no action house

FallenAngelEyes

I haven't gotten to the next area

Yes, I'm not surprised that Haven is the only town with an Auction House.

After all, the others are all inside the Clockworks.

4:44 PM

Skipping to Moorcroft costs 1k crowns (including 800 for a +4 vitapod that at least for me would pretty much be required)

(The current value of the $60 pack right now is 1,140,000 crowns.)

When it reaches 1.2m crowns, you'll just be able to sell everything for crowns and start with 5 stars shield armor cap and sword, all bought from the store for minimal fuss

FallenAngelEyes

$60, cripes

(not really; obviously selling 20k energy will net you less than selling 100 energy 200 times.)

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, the catch with the $60 pack is that it's a gift pack... basically 4 $20 packs, and the other 3 supposedly have to be gifted to other people.

@Powerlord uh, no.

That's the party pack.

@badp Yeah... and the Party Pack is the $60 pack. Unless there's another $60 pack you're referring to?

4:49 PM

When you buy energy you have a few options; one is $59.94 for 20k energy.

That's what I'm talking about.

oh wait, I could put money into this game?

would that give me the stuff I need for a firecracker lol?

No, it'd give you energy

The basic deal is $2.94 for 750 energy ~= 42k crowns

ah ok

FallenAngelEyes

I'm picturing 2.1 million gamers hovering on the Steam store ready to refresh at 7pm

deals are in

not on the page, but came up in one of my irc chans

atom zombie smasher for 2.99

great game

and jamestown for $5.

FallenAngelEyes

4:55 PM

I played the demo for that, looked neat

The demo for atom zombie smasher wasn't bad, but I was getting owned in the demo.

FallenAngelEyes

I have so many zombie games already...

yeah wish it had network MP

haha me too :)

FallenAngelEyes

@badp Haha same

I run zombiegames.net and a few other zombie sites..

im a zombie nerd

FallenAngelEyes

4:56 PM

I've got a few close friends who are zombie nerds too

all up in the Max Brooks and shiz

yeah I loved World War Z

That reminds me, I need to play Killing Floor to see what changed and score some of the new achievements.

FallenAngelEyes

They introduced me to Walking Dead, which I am grateful for because that has some of the best characterization I've ever read

the comic or the show?

FallenAngelEyes

comic

hence "read" ;)

4:57 PM

ok good, yeah the comic series is awesome

FallenAngelEyes

I've watched the show too, it's... different

the show was kind of meh.

The last ep was pretty terrible imo.

FallenAngelEyes

Kirkman's supporting it though and even wrote an ep, so I can't complain too much about drifting from canon

Yeah, they are freelancing all of next season

so that should be pretty cool

I hope they run another contest, I got a prize pack from last years. Got a hardbound art book from the comic, shirt, ect.

Used zg.net for the powers of good lol

FallenAngelEyes

oooooh nice

that reminds me, need to catch up on issues

couple behind

I still have yet to read any Max Brooks

5:00 PM

yeah me too, I stopped when it was just Rick and his son.

Meanwhile, use bacon for the power of evil.

FallenAngelEyes

Ah, I think I'm definitely further than you then, I'm only like 2 behind the current running

Why doesn't Evil Genius have a bacon trap? :/

Zombie Survival guide could be better, but world war z is a good read.

yeah I end up getting the compilations because I fall behind. Have they actually been coming out regularly lately?

When I first started it was really hit or miss.

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Q: What are the crown and energy costs for crafting each level of item?

I've noticed that all 1-star and 2-star items seem to require the same amount of crown and energy inputs for each creation - 10E/200C and 50E/400C respectively. Are these costs always the same for each star level? And if so, what are the costs associated with each star level?

FallenAngelEyes

5:01 PM

I've never been a huge zombie person, more vampires (no not Twilight), but zombies are fun :)

vampires are cool too, but my heart is with zombies lol

FallenAngelEyes

fairly regularly yeah, definitely better than early days

still sometimes a longer stretch

twitpic.com/5ior9c/full

Still no chat complete thing? Then why'd you do the ... you stupid thing. :/

Is the steam sale over?

no just changing out

5:03 PM

@Rapida No, it runs through the 11th.

That's what I thought...

or 10th depending on how Valve is defining days this week.

FallenAngelEyes

I think @Rapida asks cuz there seems to be no big Summer Camp banner

Yea, the site looks normal

FallenAngelEyes

wow, 3 million people now

5:04 PM

Or as my friend says, " supposed to happen at noon dammit!
i'm never buying a valve game againw alkjadl;kfjad;lfkja;lfjkafl; rabblerabblerabble"

FallenAngelEyes

half an hour ago it was 2.1, damn

Sometimes they're slow to switch sale days.

Honestly I cant wait until this is all over so I can enjoy my fast downloads again

FallenAngelEyes

2.7 mil aka 300k users said "Fuck it, I don't see sales, I'm gonna go do something else"

blah

8 achievements today

5:10 PM

Let me guess: One is Spiral Knights?

Killing Floor. The Big Hunt - Kill a circus Scrake with a crossbow
Atom Zombie Smasher. Dog Days - Rescue at least 100 people in July
RUSH. Solar Flare - Complete the Solar Flare level
Spiral Knights. Star-Spangled Bomber - Get Cracking! Add the Firecracker bomb to your arsenal
Guardians of Graxia. Fire Sale - Hit at least three enemy units simultaneously using either the Hell Storm or Wild Fire spell cards.
BIT.TRIP RUNNER. Roastin' yer Marshmallows - Bump into a fire in a Bonus Challenge
Show time - Post your own video in Steam

Let me guess #2: Videos I've already posted don't count?

Yep.

I'll add the Spacechem video I uploaded a few minutes ago

What's the best way to get a firecracker?

crafting

5:12 PM

Well I have the bit.trip runner one already

Bleah, I'll just remove my Day of the Tentacle videos and re-add them.

WTF, I had a lot of videos in my profile and now it seems I have none.

FallenAngelEyes

none of these achievements are retroactive are they?

@FallenAngelEyes Most of them aren't.

FallenAngelEyes

I just played Cold Stream last week ><

5:13 PM

@badp For someone who doesn't play spiral knights?

The Spiral Knights one is, just because Three Rings (or whatever) messed it up.

> steamcommunity.com/id/badp/videos

I think the bit.trip runner one is too, it just came out yesterday in a patch

and i grabbed it

Is that empty for you too?

Rush could be done yesterday too, same reason.

@badp: You only listed 7 achievements. @Loktar mentioned that there were 8...

user30

5:14 PM

Woop, GTA is on sale.

user30

Although it's not the colllection

@Powerlord I listed all the achievements in the page I think

FallenAngelEyes

now to acquire a Firecracker bomb

did he list Spiral Knights?

wait hes got 8 listed

bah, so at least for me Steam videos is broken

5:15 PM

@badp no vids for me showing

user30

Yeah, same for me as well

Go to your profile and try to add one, can you?

@Loktar I'm only seeing 7 lines in that post, each listing one achievement. I also saw mention by @FallenAngelEyes about "Cold Stream" which isn't mentioned anywhere in @badp's post, so I assume it's the missing one.

Do you need to equip the bomb or just have one?

user30

@badp No

5:16 PM

"Cold Stream" sounds suspiciously like a L4D2 map.

@ThomasMcDonald It's not just me then :)

FallenAngelEyes

it is

yeah cold stream is one.. I counted the Gaurdians of Graxia description line

FallenAngelEyes

Left 4 Dead 2
Stream Crosser - Survive the Cold Stream campaign on any difficulty

wonder if that can be done in SP.

5:17 PM

Grr

FallenAngelEyes

probably

Ill just blow through it on easy.

I hope so... not a big fan of L4D2.

FallenAngelEyes

lots of places where you can't go back

which is kinda meh

> Now available to all Spiral Knights players, is the Ironclaw Munitions Factory, a new dungeon located “deep within the Clockworks”. There are a whole load of cryptic clues as to what you should expect from this new dungeon strewn all over the game’s twitter page, here.

FallenAngelEyes

5:18 PM

I liked 1 way better

yeah me too @FallenAngelEyes 2 was broken in so many places.

Speaking of L4D2, when is Valve going to do their promised "After Portal 2 is released" DLC for it?

FallenAngelEyes

what I was mostly disappointed in was the lack of suspense

That dev team is definitely not of the same caliber as the tf2 team.

FallenAngelEyes

it was pretty much "all zombies all the time"

5:19 PM

Okay so they added a boss to tier 2 - forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/14006

FallenAngelEyes

in 1, when you accidentally triggered the hoard, it was "oh shi-"

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of either L4D game. I think Killing Floor did a much better job of the same type of game.

FallenAngelEyes

omg Commander Video in a snorkle XD

@FallenAngelEyes One more reason to dislike BTRunner :P

FallenAngelEyes

well, mask and shorts, not snorkle but still

5:20 PM

Luckily for me, the Spiral Knights one is just "log in and be done with it" for me.

Provided they award it to people who already have it.

Killing floor is fun, but the graphics and animations were very bland.

The UI was so terrible initially..

Speaking of which, all Scrakes were replaced with Summer Scrakes during their Summer Event, right?

Just like Christmas? :P

FallenAngelEyes

I like Killing Floor a lot

That reminds me, I'll should spin up OCR KF #2.

hey there

5:21 PM

#1 is already up and running.

ah KF :D

kf.ocrtf2.com

never achieved my medic lv6 :P

I don't even have any level 5s, let alone 6.

FallenAngelEyes

I felt like KF took a lot more skill and cooperation than L4D

5:22 PM

Medic level 4, though.

L4D 1/2 had the "one player wanders off and you all die" thing.

idk versus in L4D was always pretty tough

hum hard to say @FallenAngelEyes hard + realistic is tough

I really hate L4D's incapacitation system.

FallenAngelEyes

Hrm, true

wow I have 6 of today's games

Whenever we played, I swear, at least one of my friends would go rushing ahead.

5:23 PM

@Loktar mind to log onto Spiral Knights and meet me south of the fountain in Haven 21?

user30

So I can get the GTA complete pack for £14, or I can get GTA classics (everything pre IV) for £14, or I can get IV + episodes for £6.25

user30

IV + episodes it is

FallenAngelEyes

I still need to finish IV sometime

Well @Powerlord Rush can be a strategy in some cases :P

FallenAngelEyes

I picked it up with my 360 purchase and then put it down in disappointment that it went all "serious gritty crime drama" for 8 months

5:24 PM

@Mvy In normal (non-versus)?

FallenAngelEyes

I was able to go back to it later, but only after I stopped thinking of it as a GTA game.

Saints Row 2 luckily filled that gap for me.

Yes even in normal

Like, 1st level of hospital

Also, why hasn't Valve ever added the game mode there were rumors about a long time ago where it's a 4-player game, but you play as the zombies with the computer players being the survivors?

FallenAngelEyes

foodtime, later all

Man, as soon as I get home, before I make dinner, I need to fire my computer up and start a bunch of game downloads for the ones I have from todays events.

5:26 PM

@badp umm can I in like 30 mins?

Im at work currently

@Loktar @-reply me when you're there :)

Ill run home right now for lunch

ok

Oh yeah, how do you control which Haven instance you appear in, anyway?

@Powerlord you can click the "have x" at the top and you can change

@Powerlord Click on the name in the minimap

5:28 PM

Speaking of L4D2.

> What’s your prize? If 20,000 people can earn the Stream Crosser achievement (Survive a campaign of Cold Stream on any difficulty) by the end of day this Sunday, we will give all Steam players a reward - On July 22nd we will release Dead Air from the upcoming Cold Stream DLC early.

Five tickets today? How generous.

Is it bad that I can't remember which campaign Cold Stream is?

@Powerlord Since it was added to the official game... today I believe, not really.

At least, I thought before they were testing it.

Oh.

It's a new one at any rate.

and Dead Air is one of the L4D campaigns they're porting to L4D2.

5:32 PM

What do they mean by Show Time?

> Show time - Post your own video in Steam

@ArdaXi I was wondering too

user30

You attach your YouTube account to your steam community account

user30

except that it's not been working for a few days

Use the broken youtube link tool to associate a video to your account

except broken page is broken

But I've loads of videos on my account already!

5:33 PM

I already linked some videos to my Steam page, but knowing Valve "lol, no you must post another one"

^This

@badp I'm glad it's not just me

@Powerlord I had a lot of videos, but my page is currently empty

I wonder if TF2 can succeed where the website itself fails.

Oh yeah, it removed all of mine too.

user30

Nope, tried it yesterday

5:35 PM

My first experience launching Spiral Knights: "Patching"? Seriously?

user30

Ouch

@ThomasMcDonald Bah

I posted a video but it didn't work: youtube.com/watch?hd=1&v=9KuoO7cBs3w

user30

GTA is a 15GB download

user30

Goodbye 40GB monthly cap

5:36 PM

YouTube link is broken.

The link between Steam and YouTube that is.

user30

Looks like I won't be playing that until the morning regardless

user30

4 mins ago, by badp

Use the broken youtube link tool to associate a video to your account

Yeah, but I mean, it's a technical problem at Steam's end.

user30

So do I/bad

user30

It was like that last night as well

user30

5:38 PM

Anyway, in other news, the Minecraft server is back up

@badp logging in

friggin raced home lol

user30

I have 22 games to update on Steam. sigh

@ThomasMcDonald Haven't run Steam in a while?

user30

@Powerlord Nah, I always have it on.

crap gotta go across a chasm..

5:48 PM

sigh I hate medical personnel.

Go to schedule a routine doctor's appointment and I get the phone route around and eventually get routed to the prescription refill line (gee thanks)

Are they going to make a ticket every day which they have to remove because it's broken?

which one is broken today?

@ArdaXi that's valve's style

@Loktar The video one.

ah ok

@badp im in the haven

21

5:56 PM

I'm by the fountain

i see ya

the yellow dot around it

im lohktar

What's 216 for?

Loktar O'gar! (or however the Warcraft Orcs say it)

5:57 PM

lol yeah

all my crowns @badp

you want it to keep it?

nah

ill give it back

keep your money; bombs are worthless anyway.

let me check

tickets

Got the achievement?

5:58 PM

yep

thanks alot man

Woop.

Does anybody else want the bomb?

Can I sell it on the auction house?

Someone set us up the bomb.

@ArdaXi perhaps?

goes back to work

I already got it from @RonanForman.

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