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I think there are a bunch of translation phrases for votes that don't actually exist in the game.

Luckily, they're easy to spot, because they all start with the words "Vote:" whereas the ones that do work omit that.

(in left4dead_english.txt that is)

Another good example... there's "Vote: Set %s1 to Expert." and "Change difficulty to %s1?"

former likely doesn't exist, latter clearly does.

Q: Why isn't the Blog linked to the OpenID system?

3:18 PM

So it turns out that the guaranteed times of service during strikes mean that they guarantee they'll continue doing strikes at those hours as well

given that the guaranteed time would be 1630-1959 and 1649 and 1719 were both cancelled

along with all trains between 1647 and 1719 (the times I could see on the electronic timetable) except for one.

Lazers

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Despite the art looking similar on the Blog, nothing screams "I'm not really a part of StackExchange" than the lack of OpenID. Why can't I use it to post instead of handing over my Name/Email every time I'd want to post?

@Powerlord What part of "novice engineers" was lost on you? :)

@badp They could randomly get a gunslinger as one of their first drops!

Q: Why won't my squads patrol my patrol route?

They could but I can't assume they would.

Master the vanilla setup (+ straight upgrades) first, right?

WOOOO. The 1749 train will operate.

That train is so going to be packed full of people it's going to be awful.

I actually hope I'll be able to get in there

I'll actually leave right now. For great annoyment.

Ronan Forman

3:39 PM

@badp I'd say have fun, but I'd be wasting my breath.

Lazers

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I've just set up my first patrol route but I'm having trouble getting my dwarves to patrol it. It is a simple two waypoint route across the top of my realm but squads assigned to patrol it just go to the second waypoint and stand there. Do I need to do something special to get them to walk back a...

dwarf-fortress

@RonanForman I like the skin.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn YAY!

@Brant every time I see your picture I always think it's Bobble for a second

Brant

Heh.

3:47 PM

@RonanForman Yeah, quite happy you were bored.

Ronan Forman

I'm always bored

Most of the time I'm bored and doing stuff though

Q: OpenTTD: Improving transportation percentage

Feel free to construct a statue of me as well.

Life size statue of course

Brant

Any OpenTTD players here right now?

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I have a lot of industries that are reporting, say, 50% transportation when I have trains waiting at their stations for their resource. What do I need to do to increase this percentage?

strategy openttd transportation

I'm trying to think of a better title for this question, but I don't know exactly what transportation percentage means.

I played it for a bit, but not long

plan to play to again though. I started playing, then got distracted by ADOM.

Brant

Would "How do I increase the transportation percentage for an industry?" make sense?

3:54 PM

If TF2 updates in the next few hours, will someone let me know so I can get my two non-auto update servers updated?

I will if I'm home when it updates (which will be in a few hours)

Arda Xi

4:09 PM

@Brant The % transported value reported by an industry is the % of its production of the relevant cargo last month that was placed in to any station - so it is the total of all its production placed in all stations (across all competitors).

@Brant A little long for my liking.

What about "Increasing transportation percentage for an industry"
Or "Increasing an industries transportation percentage"

5:24 PM

I need bacon! 69!

In other news, I'm quite excited for Guild Wars 2.

theregister.co.uk/2011/07/22/anonplus_hacked <-- I lolled

@Powerlord l o l. Amusing.

5:37 PM

Finally home.

@Brant Improved. Perhaps not in the way you wanted however

Did you manage to get on the train @badp?

Aye

We accumulated 30 minutes of delay, absolutely free

What a bargain!

Oh wow, I didn't realize I could scroll through my editable messages with the arrow keys whilst in the text box.

@badp We changed our minds, we're going to charge you for those.

Q: What are my fortress essentials?

Don't you love that feeling when you go back to some old code, and you think to yourself "what kind of trash is this? Why did I do that? why did I do that? what in gods name was I thinking when I wrote this?"

Lazers

5:51 PM

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I've made it through a couple Dwarf Fortress tutorials but I'm still concerned that I don't know the basics of what my fortress needs to stay alive indefinitely (barring some sort of terrible goblin attack). I want to experiment with all the different workshops/items I can build and the mining I ...

dwarf-fortress

6:36 PM

OK, wtf, this project compiled just fine until I created a new .cpp file for this .h file and added an include to it.

7:15 PM

Anybody feels like playing the just released Dead Air campaign in L4D2?

@badp No.

L4D/L4D2 is evil.

Why?

I mean, besides the lack of hats.

And also, thanks Valve. I installed L4D2 yesterday to get translation strings, and now I'm going to have to sit through a stupid update for it.

@badp Almost every experience I've had playing L4D/L4D2 has been bad. And I was playing with friends, not random people.

L4D requires way more coordination than TF2 does thanks to the game's stupid incapacitation system.

I sound like a broken record here...

SIGH

Doubly fun, I was installing the L4D2 server when this update hits. So I'll have to turn around and update again as soon as it finishes.

Also, now my download of said server has slowed to a crawl.

That does remind me that I need to write l4dvotesniffer and l4d2votesniffer.

@Powerlord Well, yes, it can get annoying

@Powerlord but that's part of the appeal.

7:24 PM

It's happened at least three times now to get incapacitated while trying to save a mate

"OMG CHARGER! SHOTGUN! SHO-- SURPRISE HUNTER FUCK"

@Wipqozn Great, and that's why I don't like it because my friends have this nasty tendency to run off and other stupid shit like that.

@Powerlord Sounds like your problem is less about the game, and more about your friends.

Either way, I understand.

IF you don't work together, you're not going to have an enjoyable experience.

A few other times the map required me to climb in some way, and I ended up falling behind.

Eventually I got surrounded, then incapacitated, then died without getting helped.

I also dislike how Valve leaked screenshots of an "upcoming" mode (mutation?) like a year ago where the survivors were all bots and the players were the infected. This mode never materialized.

IMO, playing as the infected is the fun part of the game.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Killing Floor is what L4D should have been.

(except KF could use some better graphics)

Yeah, I will agree that I prefer Killing Floor.

Although I find them both to be enjoyable.

7:29 PM

If SourceMod's built-in menu system didn't have separate display values and vote values, I'd just change my voting system to be a MenuStyle and submit it for inclusion in SM 1.4

I wonder how that works internally...

@Powerlord I guess they couldn't figure out a way to have the bots be smart wrt advancing

Actually, it may not be impossible to do that, particularly if it just stores both in arrays or such associated with a menu position.

If you play SP, you'll notice you always have to lead the group

...and tank it.

@badp That's because the bots are programmed to stick with you.

Want to improve questions? Make the title a fully formed question: +25% views. Want to keep users? Upvote their answers: +125% retain!

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7:38 PM

@badp Not even a link this time?

@Powerlord Thar thou go.

I could link the other number but it'd annoy most of you.

@badp Good thing you didn't post that on Math.SE, or else they'd downvote you to oblivion. ;)

@badp The page not found? Really useful.

@Wipqozn See? I was right.

user30

I imagine it's an access restricted room

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

7:45 PM

This graph reminds me of a phrase.

Something about lies, damned lies, and statistics.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments, and the tendency of people to disparage statistics that do not support their positions. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's point. The term was popularised in the United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the 19th-century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (1804–1881): "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." However, the phrase is ...

Arda Xi

@ArdaXi Ooook.

Fun fact: Just like every other fake corpse, Spies that Dead Ringer when you hit them with that have their fake corpse dissolve. :D

One of my friends didn't realize that. >:D

Even if I did figured out how to make this vote part of the SourceMod system, I don't think the thing to block text works.

ITEMINFO_SPACER or whatever they call it, which draws a blank for that menu item instead of an actual item.

6 backstabs in a single life is, I think, my new record.

8:00 PM

@badp Keep going and eventually you'll reach 15!

@badp Mine is 10! /OperationMakeBadpFeelBad

I think you're too good at spy @Powerlord.

I think my non-medieval record is 12... not sure on that, though.

►

Which is my Medieval record.

Mhm, I saw it already. :D

I'm horrible with the Dead Ringer.

Cloak & Dagger for the win!

<3 dead ringer

Can't use anything else

<3 the Dead Ringer.

8:04 PM

D:

One of my tricks with it is to try to decloak as soon as I can, near an ammo box.

If you time it right, you'll have an 85% bar doing that.

or is it 80%. A lot, anyway.

user30

also <3 dr

Also, <3 enemy dispensers when you have DR.

Uncloak, wait for it to recharge, sap their stuff.

Level 3 causes it to recharge to full as you decloak. :D

Whoa, air conditioner unit shut off and now it's nearly silent in here.

user30

I need to work on my helo recovery in ARMA II some more

I also <3 the dead ringer.

When I first started using it I had some trouble, but I've actually improved my game by moving to it since I relied too much on the cloak anyways.

8:17 PM

DR encourages you to be much more aggressive as a Spy.

Which can be a good thing.

It's also the only way to get through "bullet hell" sometimes.

I prefer to play campy-Spy and wait...and wait...and wait...for the right opportunity.

I will say this: I do tend to start out with C&D at the beginning of a Payload or A/D CP map on RED

DR is pretty pointless on defense at the beginning of a map, whereas with C&D and YER you can get some amazing cart defenses.

The key being to wait until your team has been pushed back.

I have not used C&D since I started using Dead Ringer, but I may start using it more often on CTF and camp the intelligence room.

At least one of my 12-backstab kill streaks was on pl_badwater when the BLU team got cocky and forgot to look behind them when pushing to point A.

Well, part of it was in that section.

Pretty sure I didn't kill their entire team, just 9 or so of them, and then got 3 more backstabs after they respawned.

I dare say

with all this talk of TF2, I must go play some.

8:25 PM

I can't wait until the novelty of the Soldier lasers wears off.

oh

I've made up my mind: sentry jumping is cheating

period

@powerlord the TF2 update is out

It certainly is on Gorge

er

Forcing one set of servers to update.

The other set should go automagically

Whoa, lots of file changes

Downloading a new version of koth_badlands for instance.

8:27 PM

Source Engine Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, HL2:DM)
- Updated the localization files

Team Fortress 2
- Fixed a Linux dedicated server crash caused by the Replay director
- Crash would happen whether the server was capturing Replays or not
- Fixed the Map Stamps Collection bundle missing in the store
- Fixed dedicated server ENTITY_CHANGE_NONE console spam
- Improved the impact sounds for the Cow Mangler 5000’s projectiles
- Optimized many particle effects related to the Cow Mangler 5000 and the Righteous Bison

and harvest_event

I lol'd

The valve servers have not updated yet

OK, I don't like this. It'd better not be downloading a whole new copy of the game on my other server

downloading "./"/orangebox/tf/maps/pl_badwater.bsp <-- Because that path should not have quotes in it

kills updater

So much for auto-updating

The best part of this is that the command line switch I passed to nemrun is ./

No quotes.

The problem is that everybody else in the TF2 community thinks sentry jumping is legit

It isn't. It breaks maps.

Arguing this will be like arguing that strafe jumping is an exploit of the movement code and thus shouldn't be happening in Quake 3.

:/

hm, TF2 crashed. That's not good.

inb4 the new update is broken

8:34 PM

I'll make a server locally

That was an interesting bug in nemrun. Apparently they were storing the directory as "variablehere" and either bash or srcds_run interprets quotes in that argument as part of the argument.

New Medigun beam particle for whatever reason, btw

56.96% downloading ./orangebox/tf/particles/medicgun_beam.pcf

Oh yay, one of my servers just froze while starting up while doing a replay publish check

It started working again like 30 seconds later.

Aw, badp joined one of my servers.

Funny how the updater on the new one won't actually download stuff now that I've fixed the directory it was pointing to (I think)

or more accurately, fixed the code that was setting it wrong.

8:53 PM

the medibeam looks a bit swirlier

Well, the percentages on the downloader look right this time

Ah, yes, it's downloading to the right spot this time

> [Fri Jul 22 16:56:04 EDT 2011] :: Update completed, but master servers tell us we're still out of date. This usually means valve updated the master server and triggered our out of date notice, and we started updating so fast the content server didn't yet have the goods. We will retry until we actually get up to date...

Such a useful feature...

OK, I definitely need to add a 10 second or so sleep between server starts in nemrun

There, next time it'll properly wait 10s between reboots for each server to allow time for replays to come up.

so what's with people complaining about ping on OCR servers?

@badp Not sure.

The OCR servers tend to have lag spikes. Hence why we're moving to a new server.

I noticed that